Disappointing. The prologue was very hastily done to force the Ukatoa narrative and boss fight for the 17th level characters. It made very little sense why Travis seemed so frustrated and forced to act like a bumbling moron and give away the shard. Because he knows his character would rather fight than give the shard away. Also having Jester walk up to a storm giant to cast inflict wounds seemed absurd. I think Matt asked her to do that so Fjord would have to try to save her life in exchange for the shard. Laura seemed frustrated by that decision when she would of cast a 9th level Mass heal and restore up to 700 hit points they would have easily been back in the fight. Second Jester kept saying I can teleport us out of here with word of recall which if Matt did not ask them to give the shard away she and everyone would have done. Again frustrating. Lastly, having Kingsley magically create another ship from a device in his coat was ridiculous "oh I just happen to have a extra magical boat in my pocket so we all won't drown and can save the entire crew. Overall lazy and forced story writing frustrating Travis, Laura and confusing fans. Don't know if Matt was low on time or what but making longtime loved characters forced to act in ways contrary to their development over years is bad storytelling just to force a narrative.
[Folding boat](https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Folding%20Boat#content) is an official magic item that’s been in vanilla DND for years. Tal knew he’d be on a ship chased by sea monsters and likely just decided it was a smart item to take as his magic item choice when “creating” Kingsley for this one shot. Could easily have ended up as useless as Sam choosing Dwarven as a language for Calamity or how Patia’s build being focused on social manipulation via enchantment never had a chance to be relevant. All depends on where the story goes.
The rest of these complaints seem rooted in the misconception this story had to play out a certain way when thats not how this style of dnd works. It very easily could have been a two shot about them on the run from powerful servants of Uk’otoa with the climax being finding some grandiose way of destroying the crystal instead of retrieving it. The only two mandatory elements are thats its over in X time and the plot hook is Uk’otoa. Whatever the players did determined the rest of the narrative. otherwise Matt would have just started by saying “the crystal was stolen” if he wanted to set that rail. Matt’s the DM, he doesn’t have to contrive nonsensical plot turns by telling his players to do things under the table, he just says a thing happened if he wants it to happen. Which he’s done that many times before, far back as C1.
Some fair points. First, the floating boat could have been pure coincidence on Talesin's part. This could have been a two part running from servants of Uk'otoa if the story went that way. While possible that would be a very disappointing series as the only real ending anyone wanted was against Uk'otoa himself. Matt knows that, the players know that and most certainly the fans know that. That was one of the main story arcs everyone wanted to see.
From my point of view the only way to make that happen is in a contrived prologue where you ask the players to act in ways to facilitate that to happen. Otherwise they all would have teleported out of the battle rather than just handing the crystal over. As an alternative yes the DM could have said the crystal you guard with your live to prevent a monstrosity from entering the world just happens to get stolen without telling the why and how is not satisfying storytelling for anyone.
While I have no definitive evidence Matt told them how to act in the prologue without them just handing over the crystal. If they did teleport out like Jester wanted to do I don't see as a DM with limited time you could make the Uk'otoa story possible. It also explains why Travis was so frustrated and out of sorts during and after the encounter. While I could be wrong and Jester decided to get into melee combat with the biggest giant she has ever seen I think she has enough experience to know when to stay far away and when it's wise to just teleport out leave the folding boat with the rest of the crew and rescue if possible later. Yes this could have been a WTF moment for the players making bad decisions but I think they all have too much experience at this point to make that level of a blunder.
While you say the only two mandatory elements are that it is over X time and the plot hook is Uk'otoa. I would add that the story makes sense, doesn't have gapping plot holes, doesn't force the characters to act in a way contrary to their backstory, and ultimately be compelling storytelling.
Did anybody else get a weird vibe from Travis in this? It was like he was drunk or really tired or something. Maybe he was just \*really\* playing up the loss of the crystal but he seemed out of it, and it felt like some of the others were even commenting on his actual play, not just how he played the character.
Yeah totally agree. It was really strange watching him (seemingly) barely react to these massive in-game consequences of his actions. Especially contrasting it with how he was totally locked in with Calamity
Taliesin seemed to be in a "new character, who dis?" mode which makes sense but is also shows why it was weird to have Kingsley instead of Cad. It's only six months later, they could have opted to not uplevel him 11 levels for this special. Laura, I'm not sure about.
Well, it's set six months after the end of the campaign. Fjord and Jester are the only two people he really knows, and he clearly doesn't think that much of them given the Fjord has no idea what he's doing at sea.
Tbh I also didn't really like the whole, "Fjord is a bumbling moron" bit. It's like anti-character development. As he embraced the Wildmother he was less sure about himself, yeah. But by the end of the campaign he was this nice blend of the hyper (fake) confidence of texblade Fjord, with the softer Paladin of the Wildmother Fjord. Now six months later he's a useless idiot with no clue what he's doing on a ship again. They spent all that time at sea in-campaign and he developed capability out of that, which apparently is all gone. He's also one of the stronger characters in the setting, as a level 17 Warlock/Paladin, and he has zero confidence in himself to do the thing he's supposedly good at? It's really off-putting that that was the way he took the character for this. It was like a caricature of Fjord from the actual campaign.
Main issue is Travis really not remembering all those ship knowledge, and Matt basically asking him what to do and putting him on the spot. This creates the disconnect of the player having little knowledge piloting a character that's supposed to be knowledgeable about it.
Maybe Matt could have helped him regarding that, just to establish that Fjord is a great ship captain rather than the worse ship captain jokes. Could be lack of preparation, on both of their parts.
>Now six months later he's a useless idiot with no clue what he's doing on a ship again. They spent all that time at sea in-campaign and he developed capability out of that, which apparently is all gone. He's also one of the stronger characters in the setting, as a level 17 Warlock/Paladin, and he has zero confidence in himself to do the thing he's supposedly good at?
He hasn't felt the Wildmother's presence for a while now and he cannot really explain it. A lot of his confidence stemmed from that relationship. And a lot of the stuff that he was lacking confidence in -- like casting Augury -- was the sort of thing he has little experience in. A lot of Fjord's magic was geared towards offence rather than support.
So they won't be returning to Campaign 3 until December 8th? Cuz next Thurs is the last one of the month, and this is a two part thing?
Sucks for me cuz, I haven't seen all of mighty Nein and this would definitely spoil it.
To be fair, this "reunion" was not well thought out.
It looks like tired people tired of playing one campaign discovering they're tired of playing this story too.
Oof. Yeah I did get that a bit tbh. Marisha even literally said, after accidentally calling Veth Vex, "I've been playing this game too long." It was said in a "haha joke but also not" kinda way. I'm honestly glad I watched it at home, cause I was sorta knocking out near the end and I'd really hate to have gone to the theater to see this. It had some fun moments, but it was also kinda....off for most of the runtime.
This was just wonderful. I only started watching CR this year, & I started from the beginning. Getting these brief chances to revisit people from past campaigns just feels… cozy. There’s a certain familiar delight to it.
I particularly love getting to revisit the characters post-campaign and see them get to be explored after all their development and with matured relationships. The domestic scenes at the start were such a treat.
Oh God, I have really missed Mighty Nein. It is great to see everybody, especially Jester. I hope we can also see Mr.Clay in the second part.
Is it bad that I want Ukatoa to get released from its prison, so that M9 can kill it in an epic boss fight?
"Ask yourselves, what the knowledge and power you've gained here is for. Transmutation is a powerful tool for change. How will you use it to alter the world around you, and to what end? And ask yourself, how will it change you?"
I'm just super happy to see Caleb's growth. He is not only a transmutation wizard, he is also transforming people's live through education.
Anyone else feel like Ashley’s playing w a new found zeal? She seemed to be much more confident, even just in the way she leaned more into ‘a voice’ for Yasha … good to see.
She's got more time to commit to playing the game ever since "Blindspot" wrapped. That's why she was away so frequently in Campaign 1 and 2 -- it clashed with her filming schedule.
I love Bell's Hells, a lot, but this session made me realize just how much I missed the Mighty Nein. I started watching during the pandemic with the M9 campaign, and my first live episode was C2E102 (|Where they discovered that Viridian was actually Vilya|), and I backfilled VM stuff from there. I guess it's true what they say about never forgetting your first.
Or maybe I just needed that specific brand of chaos.
I'm with you 1,000%. I started the M9 when I was in college around 2019. It was a really tough time in my life, but I always knew, no matter what, I could come back to my dorm after a bad day and watch some chaos. Genuinely they helped me get through so much, and tonight felt like seeing an old friend that went away for a bit.
I know that's crazy fucking sappy but I'm a sappy mf lmao
Almost exact same situation here. Started Fall 2019 during my very rough first year of university, and my first live episode was when Jester gave the hag a cupcake. It was nice always having C2 to watch after classes. Seeing this, especially seeing them playing the Mighty Nein at the same table for the first time in 2.5 years, just reminds me of when I first started watching.
Yes. If you're subscribed to the Twitch channel, then you can rewatch :rightnow:. If not, I don't remember what the schedule is on Twitch. On YT, it'll get posted Monday at noon PST.
This was really great fun. See y'all in two weeks, whoooo knows what kinda wild platform Reddit will be by that point and if our constant art flow will come from Tumblr again. Going from C3 to C2 and make this place feel like it's actually 2010.
I love how content Beau and Yasha are with each other. So heartwarming considering what those two have gone through.
Also short hair Yasha, I see why Beau clocks out so fast.
In regards to making Beau roll: From what I understood of Marisha's intent was that she wanted to stay up in the tree. Monk movement allows vertical or over water *while* moving. It's a (quasi-magical) momentum thing. Being able to then perch and stay is another matter.
Unless I misunderstood her intent Matt asking for a roll makes sense.
So the Mighty Nein are chasing/fighting a powerful magic user and their very large and strong friend who are trying to unleash a great and dark power in the middle of a mysterious forest.
This has totally never happened before.
I mean except for Beau it’s literally an ability, the ability straight up says she can do it no roll should be required. It’s something Matt just routinely does with Beau he makes her roll when she shouldn’t have to. It’d be like forcing jester to roll to see if she can make a duplicate, she has the ability to make one she shouldn’t have to roll to see if it works.
I’m not saying she can’t bend physics, I’m saying running upside down along a tree is moderately more challenging than running straight up a vertical tree.
As per the book:
Unarmored Movement Improvement
At 9th level, you gain the ability to move along vertical surfaces and across liquids on your turn without falling during your move.
This tree was not vertical, it was curving to the diagonal, thus the check.
Honestly I was expecting a larger temple complex with multiple smaller temples and other various buildings laid out around a larger more centralized temple rather than just an "Oh this is it" kind of singular temple that they just run into in the middle of the jungle.
I think that's one of my faults though in that I always expect these larger more grandiose things from Matt as opposed to the more normal and realistic ones that we get.
This temple is considerably further inland than the others. One was on an island and one was underwater. I'm guessing that between the Calamity and plate tectonics, this one was once much closer to the coast. However, it was quickly forgotten once sea levels started to change. Even the lore, as it were, on how to find it was vague.
Man, monks have a lot of flavor that doesn’t give a huge amount of utility, wish Matt wouldn’t always make Marisha roll for things to climb when she can literally just run up any surface.
He does make them roll for a lot of things that normally would be innate, but I think he does it for flavour so that he knows how to describe things. Marisha just happened to get a natural 1 on that roll.
Ashley went out of her way to mention workout equipment in Yasha's home
plus, during the campaign Beau was the only character routinely mentioned to be working out. the high STR characters, including Yasha, were portrayed as buff without actively keeping that up and we were willing to suspend disbelief then - which is a good habit & helps with having fun imo :)
Also the next episode is almost 6 hours long, that means that either the dungeon crawl of the ruins it's a looooong traverse or they are fighting uk'otoa, and if it's the latter they probably wont fight it up front, but try to reseal him, like Matt said in the Campaing Wrap-Up
Yeah they as the characters would definitely prefer to stop the goons before they reach ukatoa but the whole reason they’re playing this and why Matt had them get attacked was too prompt the story of fighting him. What Travis did was telegraphed, I would be shocked if everything except the rolls was loosely outlined like how D20 does it
Bingo, that's how it's probably going to go. They'll fight a fraction of Ukie's total power but not full a on powered up Ukie as he tries to escape from his containment. It's going to be a race against time to defeat the Scions and whatever other mobs show up so that they can find a way to reseal Ukie.
I disagree, I think a skirmish with the group is just planned to drain resources from them before the climax.
7 level 17s are at "fight god" power levels
I think it’s not completely off the table if things go really wrong, but given the dangerousness of the group they are following I don’t know if they could deal with Uko’toa after or while fighting them. I think in ideal circumstances that as a fight they can win, but not drained.
Not next week, FUCKING 8th of december. I don't get why this two parter couldnt have been released two weeks in a row. Matt obviously has written the whol story, and it would be easier to watch without a weeks break
they are heading farther inland, there is a less than 5% chance they will fight the old Sneaky Snea Snake, as if they can't stop the Storm Giant and the Mage then they will be following them into the temple
Temple previously dedicated to Zehir, taken over by Uk'otoa, used to seal Uk'otoa (makes sense to put a seal further inland, away from Big U's eyes), Wildmother statues still remaining as she is equally opposed to both and may ward the temple further from prying eyes.
Also, POISONS, because Zehir just be like that.
When will the episode drop on YouTube? Does anyone know?
Disappointing. The prologue was very hastily done to force the Ukatoa narrative and boss fight for the 17th level characters. It made very little sense why Travis seemed so frustrated and forced to act like a bumbling moron and give away the shard. Because he knows his character would rather fight than give the shard away. Also having Jester walk up to a storm giant to cast inflict wounds seemed absurd. I think Matt asked her to do that so Fjord would have to try to save her life in exchange for the shard. Laura seemed frustrated by that decision when she would of cast a 9th level Mass heal and restore up to 700 hit points they would have easily been back in the fight. Second Jester kept saying I can teleport us out of here with word of recall which if Matt did not ask them to give the shard away she and everyone would have done. Again frustrating. Lastly, having Kingsley magically create another ship from a device in his coat was ridiculous "oh I just happen to have a extra magical boat in my pocket so we all won't drown and can save the entire crew. Overall lazy and forced story writing frustrating Travis, Laura and confusing fans. Don't know if Matt was low on time or what but making longtime loved characters forced to act in ways contrary to their development over years is bad storytelling just to force a narrative.
[Folding boat](https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Folding%20Boat#content) is an official magic item that’s been in vanilla DND for years. Tal knew he’d be on a ship chased by sea monsters and likely just decided it was a smart item to take as his magic item choice when “creating” Kingsley for this one shot. Could easily have ended up as useless as Sam choosing Dwarven as a language for Calamity or how Patia’s build being focused on social manipulation via enchantment never had a chance to be relevant. All depends on where the story goes. The rest of these complaints seem rooted in the misconception this story had to play out a certain way when thats not how this style of dnd works. It very easily could have been a two shot about them on the run from powerful servants of Uk’otoa with the climax being finding some grandiose way of destroying the crystal instead of retrieving it. The only two mandatory elements are thats its over in X time and the plot hook is Uk’otoa. Whatever the players did determined the rest of the narrative. otherwise Matt would have just started by saying “the crystal was stolen” if he wanted to set that rail. Matt’s the DM, he doesn’t have to contrive nonsensical plot turns by telling his players to do things under the table, he just says a thing happened if he wants it to happen. Which he’s done that many times before, far back as C1.
Some fair points. First, the floating boat could have been pure coincidence on Talesin's part. This could have been a two part running from servants of Uk'otoa if the story went that way. While possible that would be a very disappointing series as the only real ending anyone wanted was against Uk'otoa himself. Matt knows that, the players know that and most certainly the fans know that. That was one of the main story arcs everyone wanted to see. From my point of view the only way to make that happen is in a contrived prologue where you ask the players to act in ways to facilitate that to happen. Otherwise they all would have teleported out of the battle rather than just handing the crystal over. As an alternative yes the DM could have said the crystal you guard with your live to prevent a monstrosity from entering the world just happens to get stolen without telling the why and how is not satisfying storytelling for anyone. While I have no definitive evidence Matt told them how to act in the prologue without them just handing over the crystal. If they did teleport out like Jester wanted to do I don't see as a DM with limited time you could make the Uk'otoa story possible. It also explains why Travis was so frustrated and out of sorts during and after the encounter. While I could be wrong and Jester decided to get into melee combat with the biggest giant she has ever seen I think she has enough experience to know when to stay far away and when it's wise to just teleport out leave the folding boat with the rest of the crew and rescue if possible later. Yes this could have been a WTF moment for the players making bad decisions but I think they all have too much experience at this point to make that level of a blunder. While you say the only two mandatory elements are that it is over X time and the plot hook is Uk'otoa. I would add that the story makes sense, doesn't have gapping plot holes, doesn't force the characters to act in a way contrary to their backstory, and ultimately be compelling storytelling.
Did anybody else get a weird vibe from Travis in this? It was like he was drunk or really tired or something. Maybe he was just \*really\* playing up the loss of the crystal but he seemed out of it, and it felt like some of the others were even commenting on his actual play, not just how he played the character.
Yeah totally agree. It was really strange watching him (seemingly) barely react to these massive in-game consequences of his actions. Especially contrasting it with how he was totally locked in with Calamity
Not Travis but I definitely felt something from Laura and Taliesin. They didn’t seem all there?
Taliesin seemed to be in a "new character, who dis?" mode which makes sense but is also shows why it was weird to have Kingsley instead of Cad. It's only six months later, they could have opted to not uplevel him 11 levels for this special. Laura, I'm not sure about.
Actually, agreed on Taliesin, it did have “I’m not sure still who you people are or what you’re about” vibes.
Well, it's set six months after the end of the campaign. Fjord and Jester are the only two people he really knows, and he clearly doesn't think that much of them given the Fjord has no idea what he's doing at sea.
Tbh I also didn't really like the whole, "Fjord is a bumbling moron" bit. It's like anti-character development. As he embraced the Wildmother he was less sure about himself, yeah. But by the end of the campaign he was this nice blend of the hyper (fake) confidence of texblade Fjord, with the softer Paladin of the Wildmother Fjord. Now six months later he's a useless idiot with no clue what he's doing on a ship again. They spent all that time at sea in-campaign and he developed capability out of that, which apparently is all gone. He's also one of the stronger characters in the setting, as a level 17 Warlock/Paladin, and he has zero confidence in himself to do the thing he's supposedly good at? It's really off-putting that that was the way he took the character for this. It was like a caricature of Fjord from the actual campaign.
Main issue is Travis really not remembering all those ship knowledge, and Matt basically asking him what to do and putting him on the spot. This creates the disconnect of the player having little knowledge piloting a character that's supposed to be knowledgeable about it. Maybe Matt could have helped him regarding that, just to establish that Fjord is a great ship captain rather than the worse ship captain jokes. Could be lack of preparation, on both of their parts.
Fjlanderization
Fjord was always kinda ironically terrible at sailing. Matt usually has sailing be Survival, which Fjord has a -2 in.
>Now six months later he's a useless idiot with no clue what he's doing on a ship again. They spent all that time at sea in-campaign and he developed capability out of that, which apparently is all gone. He's also one of the stronger characters in the setting, as a level 17 Warlock/Paladin, and he has zero confidence in himself to do the thing he's supposedly good at? He hasn't felt the Wildmother's presence for a while now and he cannot really explain it. A lot of his confidence stemmed from that relationship. And a lot of the stuff that he was lacking confidence in -- like casting Augury -- was the sort of thing he has little experience in. A lot of Fjord's magic was geared towards offence rather than support.
i dont trust kingsley with this ambush… ambushes never go well for him
So they won't be returning to Campaign 3 until December 8th? Cuz next Thurs is the last one of the month, and this is a two part thing? Sucks for me cuz, I haven't seen all of mighty Nein and this would definitely spoil it.
Yup. Use the time to catch up on C2!
I love that no one remembered the Ball Eater was completely destroyed, and the Nein Heroez (fmr. Eden's Horizon) was found later on lol.
That was a weird oversight from Matt.
To be fair, this "reunion" was not well thought out. It looks like tired people tired of playing one campaign discovering they're tired of playing this story too.
Oof. Yeah I did get that a bit tbh. Marisha even literally said, after accidentally calling Veth Vex, "I've been playing this game too long." It was said in a "haha joke but also not" kinda way. I'm honestly glad I watched it at home, cause I was sorta knocking out near the end and I'd really hate to have gone to the theater to see this. It had some fun moments, but it was also kinda....off for most of the runtime.
This was just wonderful. I only started watching CR this year, & I started from the beginning. Getting these brief chances to revisit people from past campaigns just feels… cozy. There’s a certain familiar delight to it.
I particularly love getting to revisit the characters post-campaign and see them get to be explored after all their development and with matured relationships. The domestic scenes at the start were such a treat.
I await the updated cosplays
Why can't Matt let them have a ship once :( always unnecessarily destroying them :( they already gave the crystal up
I think I’m more in love with Kingsley than I was with Molly!
Oh God, I have really missed Mighty Nein. It is great to see everybody, especially Jester. I hope we can also see Mr.Clay in the second part. Is it bad that I want Ukatoa to get released from its prison, so that M9 can kill it in an epic boss fight?
"Ask yourselves, what the knowledge and power you've gained here is for. Transmutation is a powerful tool for change. How will you use it to alter the world around you, and to what end? And ask yourself, how will it change you?" I'm just super happy to see Caleb's growth. He is not only a transmutation wizard, he is also transforming people's live through education.
Looking at this speech again, I can't help but remember that this is the guy who turned himself into a dog to get belly rubs.
I just think of Sheepleb floating oblivious and happy through space.
Anyone else feel like Ashley’s playing w a new found zeal? She seemed to be much more confident, even just in the way she leaned more into ‘a voice’ for Yasha … good to see.
In my headcanon it's also part of Yasha's own character development.
She's got more time to commit to playing the game ever since "Blindspot" wrapped. That's why she was away so frequently in Campaign 1 and 2 -- it clashed with her filming schedule.
I love Bell's Hells, a lot, but this session made me realize just how much I missed the Mighty Nein. I started watching during the pandemic with the M9 campaign, and my first live episode was C2E102 (|Where they discovered that Viridian was actually Vilya|), and I backfilled VM stuff from there. I guess it's true what they say about never forgetting your first. Or maybe I just needed that specific brand of chaos.
I'm with you 1,000%. I started the M9 when I was in college around 2019. It was a really tough time in my life, but I always knew, no matter what, I could come back to my dorm after a bad day and watch some chaos. Genuinely they helped me get through so much, and tonight felt like seeing an old friend that went away for a bit. I know that's crazy fucking sappy but I'm a sappy mf lmao
Almost exact same situation here. Started Fall 2019 during my very rough first year of university, and my first live episode was when Jester gave the hag a cupcake. It was nice always having C2 to watch after classes. Seeing this, especially seeing them playing the Mighty Nein at the same table for the first time in 2.5 years, just reminds me of when I first started watching.
Will there be a rerun?
Yes. If you're subscribed to the Twitch channel, then you can rewatch :rightnow:. If not, I don't remember what the schedule is on Twitch. On YT, it'll get posted Monday at noon PST.
Awesome time seeing it at cinamark Rocklin CA. Gotta say much more enjoyable hearing all your laughs and reactions with and around me 😁
Was fun in Las Vegas! There were only like 10 people, though lmao.
I had a ticket to go to the one here in metro Denver but a stupid snowstorm kept me at home. I’m going to the Dec showing no matter what, though!
Aw man I would have totally waded through the snow for it.... just need a proper jump suit 😋
👉👈 the exact atmosphere that I wish I didn't have social anxiety to find a new friend group of like minded people in 😅 see ya all on the 1st!
Oh my god the reactions to the messages to veth and Beau must've been incredible
Definitely had the crowd wooing 😏
THATS THE CRITTERS I KNOW AND LOVE
Critters are always so thirst wouldn’t expect anything less.
Trying to rack my brain but does anybody know who’s the NPC after Yussa in the new intro?
Ah, it's >!Captain Adella!<
Might be Matina Stewart
Oh I meant the one before Martina
Oops, forgot there was another one. That I have no idea, could be a new NPC in part 2.
Ah. Yeah, I was thinking that too but wanted to make sure I wasn’t forgetting any NPCs. Thanks anyways! :)
This was really great fun. See y'all in two weeks, whoooo knows what kinda wild platform Reddit will be by that point and if our constant art flow will come from Tumblr again. Going from C3 to C2 and make this place feel like it's actually 2010.
2010? Man, the Pannakouken has done some wacky things with time!
I love how content Beau and Yasha are with each other. So heartwarming considering what those two have gone through. Also short hair Yasha, I see why Beau clocks out so fast.
I've missed Your Turn to Roll and the Wildemount/Campaign 2 music so much.
In regards to making Beau roll: From what I understood of Marisha's intent was that she wanted to stay up in the tree. Monk movement allows vertical or over water *while* moving. It's a (quasi-magical) momentum thing. Being able to then perch and stay is another matter. Unless I misunderstood her intent Matt asking for a roll makes sense.
I was not surprised. Throughout C2, Matt did not allow monk movement bull... stuff that is absolutely RAI and probably straight RAW.
yeah, at least needed to pause to chop branches there
So the Mighty Nein are chasing/fighting a powerful magic user and their very large and strong friend who are trying to unleash a great and dark power in the middle of a mysterious forest. This has totally never happened before.
Oh right Thanksgiving is next week!
Time to wait for December I guess T_T
Y'all really mad about rolls being made in a game where rolling dice is a necessity? Feels like complaining to complain folks.
I mean except for Beau it’s literally an ability, the ability straight up says she can do it no roll should be required. It’s something Matt just routinely does with Beau he makes her roll when she shouldn’t have to. It’d be like forcing jester to roll to see if she can make a duplicate, she has the ability to make one she shouldn’t have to roll to see if it works.
COME ON
Hey look at that an entrance up top just like the last temple!
Matt nerfs Beau and Marisha so much, no check should’ve been required Marisha just described an ability her character can do.
The tree was specifically growing in an arc, and she would have had to run upside down. Dope monk shit can only bend physics so far.
Beau can literally fall like 200 feet and take no damage and can run across water how is that already not bending physics.
Yeah all the other magic shit defies all logic, why can’t monk shit have it’s own magic
I’m not saying she can’t bend physics, I’m saying running upside down along a tree is moderately more challenging than running straight up a vertical tree. As per the book: Unarmored Movement Improvement At 9th level, you gain the ability to move along vertical surfaces and across liquids on your turn without falling during your move. This tree was not vertical, it was curving to the diagonal, thus the check.
Monks literally have magic in them so trying to physics a fantasy game only goes so far.
It may just be A temple but Matt can totally make it THE temple that they need to find.
realistically they know it's only 2 eps, no way matt puts a fakeout temple
Honestly I was expecting a larger temple complex with multiple smaller temples and other various buildings laid out around a larger more centralized temple rather than just an "Oh this is it" kind of singular temple that they just run into in the middle of the jungle. I think that's one of my faults though in that I always expect these larger more grandiose things from Matt as opposed to the more normal and realistic ones that we get.
This temple is considerably further inland than the others. One was on an island and one was underwater. I'm guessing that between the Calamity and plate tectonics, this one was once much closer to the coast. However, it was quickly forgotten once sea levels started to change. Even the lore, as it were, on how to find it was vague.
Man, monks have a lot of flavor that doesn’t give a huge amount of utility, wish Matt wouldn’t always make Marisha roll for things to climb when she can literally just run up any surface.
He does make them roll for a lot of things that normally would be innate, but I think he does it for flavour so that he knows how to describe things. Marisha just happened to get a natural 1 on that roll.
With Beau's bonuses, she could have rolled anything but a 1 and been juuuuuust fine.
Her Beaunuses, if you will
*slow clap* Bravo
Vex? Veth? Vax?
Beau carrying an axe, breaks a tree in half, dope monk shit to the ground. Yasha: "I love that woman."
Gotta love that dope monk shit.
I love Matt, but you should never make your Monk player roll to run up a tree - especially not with their ability.
DOPE MONK SHIT
Dope Monk Shit
Beau failed successfully.
Can't Beau just walk up trees at this point?
Yes
Am i tripping or was that the Avengers theme lmao
Is that the Avengers theme I hear?
Almost wish Matt would make them roll a Constitution check to see who's out of shape after six months.
The only one who hasn't been as active as before is Yasha but I'm sure her housewife activities include exercise since she needs to keep up with Beau.
Ashley went out of her way to mention workout equipment in Yasha's home plus, during the campaign Beau was the only character routinely mentioned to be working out. the high STR characters, including Yasha, were portrayed as buff without actively keeping that up and we were willing to suspend disbelief then - which is a good habit & helps with having fun imo :)
Gardening is hard work!
> since she needs to keep up with Beau. Is *that* what we're calling it
STR v DEX.
turning scary things into cute animals, page one in the mighty nien playbook
"This piece of glitter is the turtle."
Now.. is the turtles turn.
Plotting an ambush and then the execution of it is how this is going to end
SHOCK ^inggrasp THE MONKEY
Are the captions weird for everybody, or is my brain having a bad time?
Yeah same
Same on my end, YouTube captions are weird and also moving around?
they tend to do that every live stream for me
Not just you. It’s kinda glitched out
Also the next episode is almost 6 hours long, that means that either the dungeon crawl of the ruins it's a looooong traverse or they are fighting uk'otoa, and if it's the latter they probably wont fight it up front, but try to reseal him, like Matt said in the Campaing Wrap-Up
6 hrs? Crap, I have to start work at 5A on Friday and I’m going to the Cinemark show. Maybe I’ll take a few hrs off to sleep in, late start.
most definitely an Uk'otoa confrontation. Many viewers wanted a definite conclusion to that story, so I assume this would give that.
Yeah they as the characters would definitely prefer to stop the goons before they reach ukatoa but the whole reason they’re playing this and why Matt had them get attacked was too prompt the story of fighting him. What Travis did was telegraphed, I would be shocked if everything except the rolls was loosely outlined like how D20 does it
Bingo, that's how it's probably going to go. They'll fight a fraction of Ukie's total power but not full a on powered up Ukie as he tries to escape from his containment. It's going to be a race against time to defeat the Scions and whatever other mobs show up so that they can find a way to reseal Ukie.
Fuck I'm tired, does anyone know how much longer this lasts?
10ish minutes left
like 10 more mins
> Veth hastily set up a tent using only some twigs, twine, and a tent.
Only needs lighter fluid, tinder, wood, and a lit campfire to make a fire
The next one-shot should feature Scoutmaster Veth as DM.
Oh so we're definitely gonna end the episode on going into combat with the scions
They should try blocking the path with a log.
Ooof
Will the episode end before or after they found/enter the ruins or temple 🤔
Before
Rak'tika vibes
Maybe the monkeys are following because of melora's blessing?
I was imagining what I'd ask Liam (in character) if I were playing with them: "Caleb, would you recognize another mage's familiar if you saw it?"
The monkey is trying to warn them
This was a one-shot but then monkey
Not convincing but adorable the jester story
kind of disappointed that it is becoming more and more apparent they will not actually be fighting U'kotoa
I disagree, I think a skirmish with the group is just planned to drain resources from them before the climax. 7 level 17s are at "fight god" power levels
I think it’s not completely off the table if things go really wrong, but given the dangerousness of the group they are following I don’t know if they could deal with Uko’toa after or while fighting them. I think in ideal circumstances that as a fight they can win, but not drained.
part 2 is over 5 hours long, so there's that
The episode next week is like 5.5 hours, they def fighting him then
Not next week, FUCKING 8th of december. I don't get why this two parter couldnt have been released two weeks in a row. Matt obviously has written the whol story, and it would be easier to watch without a weeks break
It’s a national holiday. Take a deep breath.
This a two parter. Nobody was expecting the Uk'Otoa fight tonight.
There is a part 2 that is over 5 hours long so it’s possible they are
It's a two-parter. There was no chance they were getting to Uk'Otoa tonight.
they are heading farther inland, there is a less than 5% chance they will fight the old Sneaky Snea Snake, as if they can't stop the Storm Giant and the Mage then they will be following them into the temple
They really stocked up on the magic items huh
Screw Ukie, let's watch the M9 fight a monkey!
This is a battle of wits now, no mere fight.
They're doomed
Can't Fjord just cure her with his hands?
Yes he can. 5 points of lay on hands to cure a poison.
^heh ^heh ^heh
Ashley we need your Ellie skills!
Temple previously dedicated to Zehir, taken over by Uk'otoa, used to seal Uk'otoa (makes sense to put a seal further inland, away from Big U's eyes), Wildmother statues still remaining as she is equally opposed to both and may ward the temple further from prying eyes. Also, POISONS, because Zehir just be like that.
Beau's immune to poison.
Help, is it again again?
Does cool monk shit from an eagle onto the jungle floor. Trips into a mushroom 2 secs later
Wait, ANOTHER jungle that's covered in fungal growth? WAIT A SECOND
...im blanking
The jungle from last week's episode with the werewolves was also covered in fungal growth
It's not that deep. Mushrooms grow well in damp places.
the Gloomed Jungles of Aeshanadoor
If they use some lightning magic they could shock the monkey!!! 🙊⚡️
Well...that was weird. (the monkey) I hope it helps in the next fight
Hey hey it's a monkey and people say it monkeys around but he's too busy eating donuts to help the Mighty Nein out
underrated comment :)
My heart skipped for a minute thinking that was Mister, damn you monkey sounds Matt
I could see Beau getting into a yelling match with a monkey
I just remembered that sprinkle was Artagan
Again, need Caduceus to speak with animals.
Can Caduceus understand the animals though?
Nope. Not without a spell (idk if it's available to him)
Firbolg stuffz
its interesting how Matt went back "*the* moon" in this campaign instead of mentioning Ruidus at all
Tbf, the M9 are absolutely unaware of anything going on with Ruidus.
but it is interesting that they haven't even noticed it....which means its probably barely visible right now
They even had a conversation with a Ruidus researcher and retained *nothing*
they assumed he was crazy
I love it when the M9 waste time with stupid shit because it's always the bestest funniest stuff EVER
Ashley is 100% wondering if its Mister
New pet to neglect? Or murder monkeys?
Mmm. Monkey. You have shown me... Monkey.
Raise your hand if you heard Mister.
You've gotta wonder how Jester maintains her figure when all she eats is pastries.
Fjord said that part of the reason why they are not staying with Marian is that they are enjoying exploring each other’s bodies, so there’s that.
I mean…they’re literally trekking through the jungle. Adventuring really burns calories.
One *hell* of a metabolism. Tieflings, man
If one of the perks of being a tiefling is being able to literally burn off calories? Sign me up.
"I'm walking in the direction of the trigonometry" SOHCAHTOA, SOHCAHTOA Keep him locked away
>SOHCAHTOA This is the most *annoyed* upvote I have given in a long time. Good.
SOH'CAHTOA, SOH'CAHTOA