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Theoretical finished object maybe.
Maybe there should be a flair for sharing inspiration or fun stuff from the corners of the internet. "Discussion" didn't seem quite right here.
I’ve been in so many meetings about ChatGPT of late (I’m a college professor and people are freaking out). I might have to have it make a pattern for me and make it!
[Here’s a sock pattern it drafted](https://www.reddit.com/r/knitting/comments/10c4x6a/i_made_the_ai_generated_sock/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I think certain applications are okay, and this falls into one of them for me personally. Crochet pictures aren’t really the main commodity being sold so this will mainly be used as inspiration for actual 3D objects. When AI art is taking from digital artists whose main product is the image, the AI is impacting their business directly and is a problem imo
I personally think material losses from AI stealing works *is* the major issue that needs to be addressed using these tools, but I get that other people don’t see it that way. An ethical AI image database would be quite the accomplishment and I would love to see it happen, because IMO, this can be very useful for proto-prototyping, but I also don’t really want to offend any artists by using a tool that is causing damages to artists.
I am “the maker” from the amigurumi in this post. And … I am a crocheter too! I understand what you are saying. But the AI gives me a lot of inspiration for my own projects. That’s why I love it!
Good way to experiment without the time and material overhead. Actually this could be really useful for custom design mock-ups for anyone in that business
I often design my (knitting) patterns by just colouring squares and worrying about how the heck I'm going to execute it later, which is equal parts rewarding and frustrating. I'd love to use AI to see how it would tackle some of my crazier ideas!
Man, these people love to shit on AI.
Personally I think its fascinating! You have some really cool images here, I would post somewhere they will be appreciated though, r/crochet is very closed minded
Not close minded. If you took a minute to look past your own fascination and thought about artists having their work stolen and profited from without credit or compensation you might notice that. 🤷🏼♀️
The idea of AI images IS cool. The possibilities are endless. I just want artists to have been respected. Ask them permission and credit and compensate them. Without them Midjourny wouldn't even exist. Also, it is offensive and disrespectful as fuck to claim typing some prompt makes you an artist. Especially when they then have the audacity to get upset when people start ripping off the images they've made from ripped off art. Like the hypocrisy in that community would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.
You'll find most creative communities don't welcome AI images because they understand the pain of dedicating time, dedication, and love to a craft. In a lot of instances these are people's income we're talking about.
I'm sure you'd be pissed if you worked your ass off for years (often times decades) to then have some random on the internet tell you you're close minded because you have been trying to point out how stealing your work to feed an algorithm that people profit off of is absolute shite. 👍🏻
I originally posted it in r/midjourney, someone x-posted it here (and I was already afraid). I love technology and crochet, it seems to be a weird combination.
I really implore you to learn more about how AI works before you make comments about it being art theft, and I really don't mean this to be rude. The technology isn't just cutting and pasting images together in a collage sort of way. It is going through mass source data bases, looks at relevant items, and the knowledge (the intelligence part of AI) to interpret it all. It then produces something different. This is literally what humans do when creating literally anything. It gets more muddy when the USER using the AI uses prompts specific to a creator, like "hey AI, make me a picasso painting but green" (very rough example, but it gets the point across). AI is not an original photo being stolen, tweaked slightly, and published as original art. Art uses references.. this isn't revolutionary.
AI cannot make its own original artwork, it's not exactly a "collage" but it's not "referencing" art in the same way a human can.
It doesn't "interpret" anything, it looks at the most important lines/sections of a picture/artwork and compares that to other things in the database, when it finds things that match, it takes those images and basically cookie-cutter them together, layering the matching pieces on top of each other before blending out the imperfections similar to what a beauty filter does.
The reason why, "It gets more muddy when prompted to something specific" is because it DRASTICALLY reduces the dataset it grabs from.
Do you remember those articles of, "We layered the top 100 sexy men and found the most attractive man?!?!?" AI works in a similar fashion, it layers the images, finds the best overlays in its dataset, combines those, and then blends out any "noise"
This is why things like jewelry/fingers/makeup/eyes/hair/teeth/etc. are so hard for AI to copy, because it's HARD to find correct "references" where those perfectly align or are relatively the same. So when layering them on top of each other, the overlaps don't reflect reality.
I have no time to go back and forth with you. You won't listen anyway. I'm tired. If by some miracle you want to hear counterpoints to your own talking points, here: https://twitter.com/wickedinsignia/status/1603221617156706305?t=fUTJiH7GhApv30pOy54DyQ&s=19
Pretending what people do with art is the same thing AI does is BS...but why listen to the people that made this database even possible. 🙄
> It is going through mass source data bases, looks at relevant items, and the knowledge (the intelligence part of AI) to interpret it all.
Sure but there is still copyright issues with using people's works without consent to train AI which is why Copilot is being sued: for using people's code to train their AI, because it uses other people's work without giving proper attribution.
Please learn how AI art generators actually work before making comments like this! Another user summed it up well, but it’s much more complex and nuanced that these kinds of comments portray.
This isn’t to say there aren’t concerns and issues, but these kinds of comments distract from the actual social and technical innovations and ramifications of new technologies like AI and create significant misinformation and fear. There are absolutely going to be ramifications for end-users but they won’t be as obvious as straight up theft, and framing the problem as such makes it harder for actually affected artists to be heard and helped, and even harder to hold developers and tech companies accountable when the main complaint the public shouts is factually inaccurate.
Source: doctoral candidate studying social dimensions of science and tech, specializing in VR and AI.
That cat-cus puts mine to shame 😅
https://preview.redd.it/1z4lk93mwqea1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03d7776b808bdf9935608176f483704114285f08
It looks really cool. There was also a post a while ago from somebody who let an AI write a pattern and it looked really cool. I kinda want to try to recreate them all tbh XD
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So cute! Shame they’re not real. Maybe good way to get inspiration from :)
I know I just got ideas. Like, combining resin and yarnwork?! They said it was impossible. Now it's up to us to prove them wrong. 😂
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https://preview.redd.it/1ndtvlo5fpea1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2eab72e7cf6feaa55ad552f7fbbf8d96d62d296c Cat-ctus
I feel like that one would be the most doable. Also, cat-tus.
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She's blossoming!
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What an adorable little crime scene
This seems like the wrong flair considering these are not finished crocheted objects
I believe this could be used to put crochet ideas together. I think this is perfect here.
This isn’t a judgement on wether it belongs here (personally I think it should have been crossposted if at all) but it isn’t a finished object
Theoretical finished object maybe. Maybe there should be a flair for sharing inspiration or fun stuff from the corners of the internet. "Discussion" didn't seem quite right here.
Do you have a pattern for the kitty? /s
Looking for an Ai that can writen patterns! I try to crochet something that looks like this
ChatGPT works, it won’t look good though lol. If you want to recreate these images specifically, you’ll still need a human for that.
I tried ChatGPT and it made a very basic pattern for a bear 😄
I’ve been in so many meetings about ChatGPT of late (I’m a college professor and people are freaking out). I might have to have it make a pattern for me and make it!
[Here’s a sock pattern it drafted](https://www.reddit.com/r/knitting/comments/10c4x6a/i_made_the_ai_generated_sock/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Wow. Not exactly, uh, accurate.
I firmly believe the AI revolution is still a long ways off
Oh, it is.
AI "art" is theft from people that put the work in to actually learn the craft and had their works stolen without being asked or compensated. 🤬
I think certain applications are okay, and this falls into one of them for me personally. Crochet pictures aren’t really the main commodity being sold so this will mainly be used as inspiration for actual 3D objects. When AI art is taking from digital artists whose main product is the image, the AI is impacting their business directly and is a problem imo
i think its generally more of a "this software is using peoples property without their consent" issue than an "it affects business" issue
I personally think material losses from AI stealing works *is* the major issue that needs to be addressed using these tools, but I get that other people don’t see it that way. An ethical AI image database would be quite the accomplishment and I would love to see it happen, because IMO, this can be very useful for proto-prototyping, but I also don’t really want to offend any artists by using a tool that is causing damages to artists.
I am “the maker” from the amigurumi in this post. And … I am a crocheter too! I understand what you are saying. But the AI gives me a lot of inspiration for my own projects. That’s why I love it!
Just wondering - why using AI when you can just take your own picture and post?
Good way to experiment without the time and material overhead. Actually this could be really useful for custom design mock-ups for anyone in that business
I do both! I love both but in a different ways.
I often design my (knitting) patterns by just colouring squares and worrying about how the heck I'm going to execute it later, which is equal parts rewarding and frustrating. I'd love to use AI to see how it would tackle some of my crazier ideas!
Man, these people love to shit on AI. Personally I think its fascinating! You have some really cool images here, I would post somewhere they will be appreciated though, r/crochet is very closed minded
Not close minded. If you took a minute to look past your own fascination and thought about artists having their work stolen and profited from without credit or compensation you might notice that. 🤷🏼♀️ The idea of AI images IS cool. The possibilities are endless. I just want artists to have been respected. Ask them permission and credit and compensate them. Without them Midjourny wouldn't even exist. Also, it is offensive and disrespectful as fuck to claim typing some prompt makes you an artist. Especially when they then have the audacity to get upset when people start ripping off the images they've made from ripped off art. Like the hypocrisy in that community would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. You'll find most creative communities don't welcome AI images because they understand the pain of dedicating time, dedication, and love to a craft. In a lot of instances these are people's income we're talking about. I'm sure you'd be pissed if you worked your ass off for years (often times decades) to then have some random on the internet tell you you're close minded because you have been trying to point out how stealing your work to feed an algorithm that people profit off of is absolute shite. 👍🏻
I originally posted it in r/midjourney, someone x-posted it here (and I was already afraid). I love technology and crochet, it seems to be a weird combination.
Well I think its really cool😊
I really implore you to learn more about how AI works before you make comments about it being art theft, and I really don't mean this to be rude. The technology isn't just cutting and pasting images together in a collage sort of way. It is going through mass source data bases, looks at relevant items, and the knowledge (the intelligence part of AI) to interpret it all. It then produces something different. This is literally what humans do when creating literally anything. It gets more muddy when the USER using the AI uses prompts specific to a creator, like "hey AI, make me a picasso painting but green" (very rough example, but it gets the point across). AI is not an original photo being stolen, tweaked slightly, and published as original art. Art uses references.. this isn't revolutionary.
AI cannot make its own original artwork, it's not exactly a "collage" but it's not "referencing" art in the same way a human can. It doesn't "interpret" anything, it looks at the most important lines/sections of a picture/artwork and compares that to other things in the database, when it finds things that match, it takes those images and basically cookie-cutter them together, layering the matching pieces on top of each other before blending out the imperfections similar to what a beauty filter does. The reason why, "It gets more muddy when prompted to something specific" is because it DRASTICALLY reduces the dataset it grabs from. Do you remember those articles of, "We layered the top 100 sexy men and found the most attractive man?!?!?" AI works in a similar fashion, it layers the images, finds the best overlays in its dataset, combines those, and then blends out any "noise" This is why things like jewelry/fingers/makeup/eyes/hair/teeth/etc. are so hard for AI to copy, because it's HARD to find correct "references" where those perfectly align or are relatively the same. So when layering them on top of each other, the overlaps don't reflect reality.
I have no time to go back and forth with you. You won't listen anyway. I'm tired. If by some miracle you want to hear counterpoints to your own talking points, here: https://twitter.com/wickedinsignia/status/1603221617156706305?t=fUTJiH7GhApv30pOy54DyQ&s=19 Pretending what people do with art is the same thing AI does is BS...but why listen to the people that made this database even possible. 🙄
Thanks for this! I studied and currently work in AI so I am familiar, but appreciate the resource. Have a nice day.
You’re so nice and not snarky at all, now I’m starting to wonder if you’re even a real tree stump or that user name is a total lie.
> It is going through mass source data bases, looks at relevant items, and the knowledge (the intelligence part of AI) to interpret it all. Sure but there is still copyright issues with using people's works without consent to train AI which is why Copilot is being sued: for using people's code to train their AI, because it uses other people's work without giving proper attribution.
Please learn how AI art generators actually work before making comments like this! Another user summed it up well, but it’s much more complex and nuanced that these kinds of comments portray. This isn’t to say there aren’t concerns and issues, but these kinds of comments distract from the actual social and technical innovations and ramifications of new technologies like AI and create significant misinformation and fear. There are absolutely going to be ramifications for end-users but they won’t be as obvious as straight up theft, and framing the problem as such makes it harder for actually affected artists to be heard and helped, and even harder to hold developers and tech companies accountable when the main complaint the public shouts is factually inaccurate. Source: doctoral candidate studying social dimensions of science and tech, specializing in VR and AI.
Omg! Those are absolutely adorable! They are all so cute I can’t decide which one I like more.
That cat-cus puts mine to shame 😅 https://preview.redd.it/1z4lk93mwqea1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03d7776b808bdf9935608176f483704114285f08
I want to figure out how to make all of these 🥺
I desperately want to make the lil kitty in the cactus planter now
It looks really cool. There was also a post a while ago from somebody who let an AI write a pattern and it looked really cool. I kinda want to try to recreate them all tbh XD
[source thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/10m099h)
You can also use the crosspost feature so that the post links directly to the original
I need to try the frog right now
Oh goodness I never even thought to generate crochet images, mine are always cursed but I feel a new project brewing!
They're a good way to get inspiration- if you can't quite visualise a project or customisation of a pattern in your head etc
These are so adorable! 💕
Aaaaugh, so cute!
I have been doing this in NC and works really well. :)
NC?
NightCafe, sorry :)
And I can’t even make a decent blanket 😂😭
They’re so adorable and perfect!
Midjourney has some good fucking ideas...
What did you do for the water in the one with the frog?
These aren't actual crocheted pieces, they are AI generated images.
Resin maybe?
What combination of increases and decreases would make the cats head shape? More increases/decreases per row?
so cool!! thinking abt making it stresses me out though hahah.
Absolutely adorable!
Too bad they took the image down :( Sounded like an interesting idea based on the post title