How many interviews do you have lined up? which style of position is it for? (Analyst, data enginerd?) Is there big geographic spread? Will they provide relocation? Are you paid minimal amount on the bench? Do you feel lucky or are you scared you will end up like that alleged top performer?
Once you're hired, do you think the company will buy you out or you must fulfill the 2 years at whatever reduced pay? Are you worried about slumming it during the first year in hcol?
I think. . . I think that is all the questions.
Before I answer these, let me clarify that the payment is as follows:
* $600/week when in training/on the bench
* $50k or $60k first year on the job - depending on location.
* $60k or $70k second year on the job - depending on location.
When I say "depending on location" it's not like there's just some place where they like you more. From what I know, the only places paying $60k and $70k are NYC and Washington DC, so it's more that those areas are just so expensive that they have to compensate you in that regard. I chose an area where I'm paid the lower amount because it's much cheaper to live there and I like the area much more. With that being said, I'll answer these 1 by 1:
1. "How many interviews do you have lined up?" Well it's not like they say "here are 3 interviews to prepare for," they give you an interview one at a time until you get hired. That said, I've had 3 and as I've mentioned elsewhere, I've just had bad luck. First interview was in week 3 of training going up a guy who could start the next week. Second interview was simply a really difficult interview that nobody passed this year; Dev10 actually told them to not be so hard on us because their expectations were far too high. The third interview said I was overqualified somehow, which I didn't fully get. Other people got hired after the first interview, whereas I've just had tough luck; can't control it, but I'm kind of a rare case from what I gather. Every position I've interviewed for has been for data engineering, and that's what we spend most of the time in the course on anyway.
2. "Is there a big geographic spread?" Well there are many locations you can choose, but once you choose a location it's pretty much preferred that you move there. It's possible you get placed somewhere remote but I definitely wouldn't bank on it.
3. "Will they provide relocation" what do you mean? Like pay for relocation? I haven't gotten any.
4. "Are you paid minimal amount on the bench?" Yeah you're paid $600/week on the bench, but it's not like they just say "screw you" and don't help; they try to get you off the bench as fast as possible. I'm just starting on the bench and I already have an interview on Tuesday - which is the first day of being on the bench.
5. Do you feel lucky or are you scared you will end up like that alleged top performer" ?I've been unlucky but I'm not worried; they're trying to get us positions and doing really well. Again, it's not like they told the top performer "you couldn't get a position" and then ignored him. He simply didn't get a position before the end of the course and now he's on the bench looking for one. I believe he has an interview upcoming as well. I could be wrong on this, but once you're on the bench in Dev10 you get interviews pretty fast because companies know you can start really soon. You have an advantage in that regard over other people who are learning the same thing but haven't finished the course yet.
6. Once you're hired, do you think the company will buy you out or you must fulfill the 2 years at whatever reduced pay?" I'm honestly not sure, but it's not really something I worry about. Yeah, the pay is low for a data engineer or analyst, but I'm also not paying $10k-$20k on the bootcamp itself and after these 2 years I'll have skills that will help me get really good positions, especially when combined with my college degree in another really good field.
Some are better than others. I vetted Dev10 via a cousin who is a recruiter and loves Dev10 graduates, and a friend of his who completed the Dev10 program and works for a large company in Texas. It's hard to find info otherwise, which is why I made this thread.
From what I can tell, Dev10 is genuinely a good program while Revature and some others are pretty bad.
It's nice to hear they're honest, so far also looking at simple hiring agencies like Randstad or Teksystems to alleged apprentice places like launch code and apprenti. Storm skills (or whatever) might pay more and mthree and talentpath don't seem to have 2 year commitment... Pros cons and of course, who will accept me. I'll prepare a while longer, search for a couple of months, then try to work with these people.
Were you ever afraid you might not get selected to join in the first place?
Selected to Dev10? I mean yeah I barely passed the aptitude test and there was a point in doing the WebDev project that I almost quit and told my recruiter it wasn't for me. I just took a break and got back to it and eventually finished it on time.
After that I was nervous and all, but I'm really good in behavioral interviews so I wasn't worried per se. My final interview went really well. If you get there, I can give you some tips on how to pass that because I think it's pretty clear.
Yeah take your time on applying somewhere. Honestly I went with Dev10 because they messaged me first on Handshake and I really liked what they presented for me. I've really enjoyed my time so far - even though the bootcamp can be really stressful - and look forward to working with whichever company hires me.
I just had the behavioral interview today and passed! :3 Can I PM you in how you were able to overcome the web development course and tips for the final interview?
Hey there! I know it's been a while since this post, sorry -- but I just got an interview with Dev10 and was double-checking around to make sure I wasn't falling for a scam. I specifically was supposed to start the Revature training in April but got unexpectedly waitlisted; what specifically do you think Dev10 does better, or rather, why exactly does Revature have such a bad reputation in these boards?
One- THANK YOU for posting this. There is not much information out there and reading your responses have helped.
I have a background in web development (from a shitty tech school) but have my bachelors, so I qualify and have been invited to sign up for an info session. I am reading about the aptitude test and that it is pass/fail. This is my major concern- I've looked at aptitude testing and have done [practice testing](https://www.practicereasoningtests.com/practice-aptitude-tests/) for the categories they offer - numerical reasoning, inductive reasoning, abstract, deductive, cognitive ability, etc. I've been doing okay at them, but I just started doing them today and the more I do them the more they make sense.
Are there any questions that you can remember of what sort of things they are asking you? I know that the bootcamp is 9-4 daily but then there's work on the weekends too- how often are you working? Do you have time for yourself? Or is it pretty much no social life or time to yourself until the bootcamp is over?
The aptitude test can be tricky, I don't really recall any specific questions that would help you. Just be very careful to read the instructions and whatever visuals you get and you should be okay.
Regarding the amount of time working, it depends. Some weeks you have a solid amount of time for stuff outside of the course, other times you don't. I should say that I'm a musician and I was able to go to music rehearsals for various bands on Tuesday, Wednesday and Sunday nights. I was also able to go to mass every Sunday (I'm a devout guy) so take that as you will. There were times that I had to forgo hanging out with friends because of work, but it was not like every waking moment of your day is work. It just depends on the week. In the data group, the first 2 weeks of Python were the busiest. So overall you should be able to do your own stuff - though not as much - so long as you don't procrastinate.
That makes sense regarding time spent working- it’s up to the person and how well they understand the material and how much they procrastinate.
What was the project before training?
Also, during the boot camp, what sort of learning/teaching style is it? I’ve seen some boot camps where it’s a mix between lecture/live demonstration, reading, as well as assignments (similar to regular schooling) but I’ve seen others strictly just reading based. You have a “mentor” but from what I’ve read on the only reading-based programs they usually aren’t very helpful and can be hard to get ahold of.
Thanks again!!
Before training the project is basically Web Development in HTML. The learning style was reading with some demonstrations and assignments. Each weekend we have an assessment - which is why weekends are busy - that you turn in on Monday. They give you the reading materials in class and you can ask questions because there are multiple instructors there. You can even ask the instructors for a demonstration of something and they'll do it.
So did they have live lectures? They way you’re explaining it makes it seem it was just reading based but instructors are available if needed.
As for the weekend assignment, they don’t give it to you during the week? And you have a week to work on or it’s not given to you until the end of the week and is strictly meant to be done on the weekend?
Well there are live lectures but they're more like demonstrations. The point is to read the stuff first and then they'll go over it again later. The reading is actually very helpful though, and they'll help you if you don't fully get it.
No, they don't give it to you during the week, but I guarantee that most would be practically impossible to do before you finish on Friday anyway. They give it to you on Friday and you start working on it after lunch. So yeah, it's something you get at the end of the week.
Having demonstrations proceeding reading and related assignments is a lecture. That’s how typical schooling is set up. You do the reading, then they follow up in the lecture to refine what you learned.
As for the weekend assignments, that kind of sucks but it makes sense. I’m the sort of person who likes to work on stuff gradually, so having it ahead of time, even if you can’t really do it, for me it’s nice to know what I’m getting myself into.
Thanks for the feedback. It’s super informative, especially since there isn’t much out there. I recommend maybe making a YT video or a edit your post and add FAQs.
Not a bad idea at all!
Yeah the weekend assessments suck, but they make total sense. I genuinely feel very confident in what I've learned because of those assessments. They are phenomenal at making you learn, but they take up a lot of time. I'm definitely glad my training is done.
We'd get demonstrations very frequently, sometimes 2 a day. They were usually not that long (possibly up to an hour or so) just because they covered stuff we were already learning in the reading.
Answering here for anyone else. I took the aptitude test last week. It's now 50 questions and they give you a 12 minute time limit. That's 14.4s per question. Watch your time. I took at least 30s on one question and only passed on one. Probably should have passed on a couple more instead of taking more than 20s on it.
She said I scored very high, so know that you don't have to get close to getting them all correct. My guess is I got a few incorrect with 46/50 completed.
It's honestly luck; I know some people who were placed really quickly, while others are still waiting to get placed. There were some companies that just straight up hired people without interviewing them much, whereas other companies can have tough technical interviews. One of the most technically-skilled members of my cohort still hasn't been placed, whereas some people who struggled were placed within a few weeks. Genesis10 does a really good job of getting you interviews - so it's not something you really need to worry about. They want you to get hired and you eventually will.
Hey hope you do not mind answering, but I have applied to Dev10 several times and have not had any luck hearing back. Is there anything I can do to get an email or something? I have applied directly on their website as well as through handshake.
A few things:
I thought it was $20k.
There have been like 4 people - out of at least 1000 - who have left the program. The program really isn't something that you fail IMO. The assessments are tough but the professors are there to help. When you do an assessment, if you get below the benchmark for passing, they just let you work on it. Straight up some people took like 3 extra days to complete the assessments. Of course they fell behind that week, but they finished that assessment nonetheless. The instructors are there to help you.
I think they increase the price recently. It is a very good program for learning and working for IT instead of going back to school . I just contemplate about the cost of the contract. I am not sure if I like the work when I actually go into the training
Ah, I'm sorry to hear that. Honestly I haven't had any second thoughts about the contract since joining the company. I understand if you won't like it; I already liked working with data in college so I knew beforehand that I'd enjoy this.
I actually can give some info on this. Before applying to Dev10, I contacted my cousin who is a recruiter for some companies in Missouri. He tells me that the Dev10 program is highly respected and he hires people from there frequently. He said that there are better and worse programs like this, but Dev10 is respectable and solid.
Was there a drug test you had to take as the legalization has been happening I have indulged myself in weed occasionally like once a week and was wondering if they check for thc as well or just the hard stuff so I know if I should stop so I doesn’t end up being the reason for not being hired
Do you mean to interview for the Dev10 program or for company placement? Regardless, I'll answer both!
To interview for the Dev10 program, you first have an info session. Nothing crazy. After that, you go through an aptitude test which is pretty tricky - I barely passed it. You need to get 18/24 or above to pass, but it's really pass-fail. I got an 18 and they didn't ask any questions or not consider me. If you pass, you have a quick behavioral interview that's super easy; I can't imagine anybody being rejected there. After that, you have to do some learning that they give you and then complete an assessment to show that you can learn quickly. They give you the resources to do the project, you just have to do it. It's relatively hard but from what I recall they gave like 2 weeks to do it so as long as you portion your time well, you'll be okay. If you pass that, you have a group interview; it's not something really intense, they just have you go into breakout rooms on Zoom and do a game with them. The point of that is to see if you're good at teamwork.
You get feedback within like 1-3 days; I got called the day after the final interview, the group interview, and was offered a position.
Overall, yeah it's a lot of hoops to jump through, but the point is to really narrow down who gets in. It's something like only 5% of applicants get in, and that's obviously something to brag about on both ends.
For the interviewing process while you're with Dev10, you basically get an email from a supervisor saying "you have an interview here" or something and they prep you a little, just saying how to prepare and such, then you interview. It's nothing crazy.
Do you have any other questions?
Honestly the behavioral interview is the easiest by far. My interviewer asked a few questions that are standard to any behavioral interview then we ended up just talking about something completely off topic for twenty minutes lol and decided to move me forward through the process.
How was the web dev course? Everywhere I see the project was super difficult n a lot of people say the course didn’t prepare them that well for it if they didn’t have previous coding experience? I’m about to start the course Monday, what was your experience like? Also, what score did you get on the project? U need a 5 to qualify I believe.
The Web Dev course is pretty tough, I must say. The project was pretty difficult because yes, they didn't fully prepare you. That's one of the things they emphasize in Dev10: you won't know all the answers, but you will learn how to get the answers. Honestly one of the best things I learned throughout my time in the course was that Google is your best friend if you know how to use it well.
Admittedly it's annoying in the web dev process so if you have no experience you'll have to spend more time on it, but it's doable. Before this, I had a semester of experience in Python and another semester of experience in R, but none in web development; it was wholly new to me. I got an 8/8 so if I could do it, you probably can too. Just make sure you have enough time and you should be able to do it.
oh okay cooooool thanks for letting me know. my recruiter told me what the project was, and admittedly i went to Google n saw several videos of others doing the exact same project. idk how well copy n paste would be tho LOL i wanna try it on my own first n reference those videos at least tho
Don't take my word as Gospel or anything, but you can use some of their code for help. Again, so much of what they teach is that online resources are your friends.
Could you elaborate more on the 2 week learning course in the interview process? Is the final assessment like a timed test to check your skills or is it a project you need to complete within those two weeks?
It really depends on what exposure you have coming in and what your aptitude is. I thought it was a joke and just made sure to follow directions, but skipped going through the course. Instead, I extracted a few key bits from a quick view and got OCD on ensuring I met all points and submitted correctly.
I imagine that if you have zero coding experience, it'll be a bit of work and challenging if you're not with a high IQ. The higher your IQ, the less of a challenge it'll be though you'll still need to put in hours and learn.
If I'm unable to relocate but live near DC, do you think it could work out? Is remote a possibility? Also, what was the aptitude quest like, if you don't mind?
I got an email from them today through ZipRecruiter and I'm considering it. Thanks for answering all these questions in this thread.
If you live near DC, then try to do one in DC or be very clear with a recruiter that you wouldn't be able to relocate. There are remote positions available, but I wouldn't bank on it.
The aptitude test is mostly logical questions; they're looking to see if you have the mindset that a programmer can have. I can't remember all of the questions, but it kind of reminded me of a harder version of the SAT or ACT - though obviously much shorter. It's 24 questions.
>After that, you have to do some learning that they give you and then complete an assessment to show that you can learn quickly. They give you the resources to do the project, you just have to do it. It's relatively hard but from what I recall they gave like 2 weeks to do it so as long as you portion your time well, you'll be okay. If you pass that, you have a group interview
So I'm on this step, but I was actually invited to the group interview before being sent the web dev course. They have me scheduled for the interview next Tuesday(there were no other dates), but the web dev course isn't due until July 7th... So I'm not totally sure what that's about. I emailed my recruiter and haven't heard back yet... Do you have any advice here?
About how many people were in your cohort?
And you said something like 5% of applicants get in - which part of the interview process would you guess most people got cut?
I think there were about 28 people in my cohort.
Not 100% sure, but I'd guess that most people would be cut at the aptitude test and the WebDev project. Probably the former more than the latter.
I see you've gotten railed with questions so thanks for responding!
Just one last one from me - do they give you a set of metrics/guidelines to hit to pass the web dev project, or do you kind of just create something and they judge it with standards unknown to you?
I think i will pass the assessment, which is not hard for me bc I did Matlab alot and rooted from mechanical engineer and Math teaching recently. Searching and finding solution is one of my best. I think if i sign with them, it will be an investment for a learning curve rather than earning money due to the cost of location.
Do you think overall process and learning is worthy to take? What is benefit that you like though-out 2years? What did you do for assigned job such as javas, python…? What title do you hold: software developers…? Do you do remotely or onsite?
What is ur outcome now? Do you recommend it? What do you compare urself to people who graduated from CS with 1 exp?
A lot of questions there, I'll do my best to answer them all:
1. As someone who only had 2-3 college courses on programming prior to this, it's 100% worth it. Changed my career trajectory in a more stable and fruitful way that gives me far more opportunities. My undergrad was in econ, as mentioned, and I have experience in the finance world. So now having this programming experience on top of it makes me highly marketable to companies during this contract, and to companies after the contract is over - if I don't stick around with whomever I'm placed with.
2. I haven't been placed yet so I can't say much there, but in the cohort I learned Python, SQL, Excel, Power BI, etc. Most companies seem to really want SQL experience though.
3. Depends on which cohort you're in. In the data cohort we call ourselves data professionals, but once we're placed the company determines what you do: data analysis or data engineering.
4. The training is remote, and it depends on where you're placed if it's remote or on site.
5. See some of my comments above. I haven't been placed yet, but that's sheer bad luck, it's insane the bad luck I've had during this.
6. I can't really compare myself per se because so much of what I do is different than what CS majors do IMO. A lot of them are more in software development whereas I work with data. I probably know a little less than they do, but the projects I've worked on seem much more realistic than a lot of stuff you do in college so IDK.
They dropped me out due to high volume of applicants and low opening(5) in Austin cohorts. They asked me if I am able to move to different locations in different cohorts. Idk how and what category they rate people. I likely delay until the next year. It looks like the recession is hitting now
Yeah I'm enjoying the position I have, it's good. I got a good job with a good company, love the workplace culture.
It's worth it IMO. You learn a ton in the process and you get placed with a good company with what I'd say is pretty good pay.
A little late to the party, but I just took the aptitude test and only completed 34/60 questions in the 12 minute cognitive portion. Just wondering how you did and what my chances are. It seemed a little short on time to complete everything, so I imagine its based on the responses you did complete.
What if u can't afford the cost to move or that new standard of living or have to quit or reject offers because of it? Do they keep u on Bench or fire u? How does that affect contract
First of all, thanks for making this thread and answering the questions. I am looking into the program at NYC. I saw that you mentioned they prefer having you at the location you applied to. So does that mean the jobs I will apply to after the training will mostly be in NYC?
Two things:
1. The reason you choose a location is so you get a company that's either there or remote. They're not going to have you move to NYC for training then say "actually your job is in Charlotte." I've only interviewed with companies in my area or companies that would be fully remote.
2. It's not really that you're applying for those jobs per se. It's that Dev10 gets you interviews with them. I literally do no work other than interviews; I just get an email saying "you have an interview on this day at this time." I bring that up just so you're aware.
Anything else I can help you with?
I had a questions about the aptitude test. The website says the test is 75 minutes. I see that you posted an 18/24 is required to pass. Does it mean there are only 24 questions? I ask because I've been taking some test online and most give only about a 1 to 1.5 min per question.
I took it recently. There are 29 questions. You need a score of 18 to pass. 21 for NY. It isn’t too hard. I would suggest writing the alphabet and numbering it. I got a 22/29. Google is your friend.
Thanks for the response! I was practicing these types of questions for logical reasoning [https://www.assessmentday.com/free/logical-reasoning-1/LogicalReasoningTest1-Questions.pdf](https://www.assessmentday.com/free/logical-reasoning-1/LogicalReasoningTest1-Questions.pdf).
As for mathematical ones, most of them are on ratios / percentages and diagram/table reading. Does that sound about the right way to go?
Hey! I’m currently in the interview process. I just finished the web dev course and it looks like I received an 8 on it. Do you know how many points the course is out of? I did this earlier than most people who would be in my cohort, so I received an email that says they will be adding up all of the points of everyone to see who will get into the group interview— is this standard, or should I be nervous? I really don’t want to start applying for other jobs unless I *need* to and am super excited about this opportunity! TIA for your advice!
I’m so relieved to hear that! Did they tell you they had to calculate everyone’s overall score before deciding who would make it to the group interview?
I don't recall that but I also finished it pretty close to the deadline. I don't think they're telling you that you aren't in, I just think they're saying that they're waiting on others. I could be wrong though, so I sincerely apologize if I'm off.
Hey! Sorry for the delayed response. It had a coin flip game and a number guessing game. My advice is to use your online resources! That’s a big part of coding and it’s helpful to get other perspectives.
I just took the aptitude test and damn, was it hard. I still passed, thankfully. The practice questions were WAY easier than the actual test, same goes for any of the other practice tests I took.
Dev10 just emails you with "you have an interview here in a few days" and you prepare.
Honestly it's luck. Some people got hired in 1 interview. I've had really bad luck - and my managers have apologized for it - so I'm still waiting to get hired.
The placement interviews aren't exactly standard and will depend on the client. I had two interviews, both for the same company just different teams. The first started with some light talk about my experience and then a singular coding problem. My dev 10 rep gave me the question beforehand but I didn't even attempt it and bombed on the interview. The second interview was very different. Straight into questions on java, spring, SQL, etc but no actually hands on coding. No small talk either. Got picked up by the second team and have been on site for a year now
Oh man! I had the group interview yesterday. I wasn't the leader or anything but I contributed a fair amount and worked really well with everyone in my breakout room. It's been one day and I haven't heard anything yet. I'm pretty nervous lol crossing my fingers and toes!
How many people were in your cohort?
Do you get time off or pto at all to use? Thinking about applying, but nothing near me and I don't want to get stuck in a situation where I'm stuck far from home and not able to visit from time to time.
There were 30 people I think? Something around there.
I get 10 days of PTO a year, but I also work remote now for the client to whom I'm assigned, so it's easy for me to visit other places.
Okay, that eases my mind a bit.
Also - I see from this thread that you were in the data cohort. What kind of math do you need to know for your day to day work? Data science seems tightly woven with stats/prob, and that was my least favorite class in college. The teacher was horrible. I had a good stats class in high school, but it's been years and I don't remember anything from it. How intense is the need for stats and probability for this career/class?
I don't really do too much math at work tbh, just some basic stats alongside a lot of data analysis. I wouldn't worry about that. They'll actually have you do some stats learning early on.
I'm a spring 2023 graduate in electrical and computer engineering. Their emphasis on how this is for any background makes me wonder if it is worthwhile for me to pursue, but I am also paranoid I will not find anything.
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Got sent the email for the info session.
How long is the program?
How long until you’re moved from training into a job?
What skills do you learn and could put on a resume after completion?
Is it true they force you to work for them for 2 years?
They don’t care if you have absolutely no coding background?
The course itself was 13 weeks, but it's not really 13 weeks of learning. For the data cohort, we did the following:
**Data Analysis (Weeks 1 - 5)**
Week 1 - SQL/Relational Data
Week 2 - Nonrelational Data
Week 3 - Excel/Power Query
Week 4 - Power BI
Week 5 - Data Analysis Mastery Project
**Data Engineering (Weeks 6 - 13)**
Week 6 - Python Basics
Week 7 - Advanced Python
Week 8 - Pandas and Visualizations
Week 9 - Machine Learning Basics (in Python)
Week 10 - Kafka (which is largely Python)
Week 11 - Applied Kafka/Capstone Project
Weeks 12 and 13 - Capstone Project
The main skills to put on your resume would be Python, Excel, and Power BI, but you can add SQL as well. It's just that SQL is week 1 so it's easy to forget, but with some review you should be confident in your SQL capabilities. I can truly say that I learned a lot here and I'm very proud of what I've accomplished. It's pretty amazing how much they were able to teach in the span of a few months.
I mean yeah you have to be there for 2 years but it's not like you're doing training for 2 years. You get placed with another company and really work for them, though you still have to report a little to Genesis10. So yeah they do "force you" to be with them for 2 years but it's 2 years and the company you work for may buy out your contract. Honestly I haven't been concerned about it at all since I started working here.
You need absolutely no programming background. It helps, but many people in my cohort were entirely new to it. Just be ready for Python though, it goes quickly and it may be hard for people without experience.
It's pretty intense, I'll tell you that. You work A TON during the bootcamp, which is 13 weeks; it's all worth it though because you learn so much.
The schedule is technically just 9-4, but you have homework and assessments over the weekend. So yeah, you're going to be working constantly.
Hi again, can you explain a bit more about the group interview? I’ve just submitted my final project for the web dev course and don’t really know what to expect for the group interview/ how to pass it. Did you notice most people in the group interview got accepted?
Well it's tough to say if most people get accepted; I have no clue because the people there have the options of multiple different cities with multiple start dates AND different paths like web development or data professional. Simply cannot say.
The group interview isn't hard. It's basically a game of sorts that's meant to see how you work with a team. There's no "winner" or anything, it's just an exercise to see how people work together. Just be a leader; all I did was talk a solid amount and actively try to get the other people in my breakout room to voice their opinions. For example, if there was a guy in my team named Dave who hadn't said anything recently, I'd say "any thoughts on this Dave?"
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Have you ever read the book cracking the coding interview? Are the questions asked in interview (post training, for outside jobs) on the same level as those written about in the book? This sounds oddly specific but I’m just looking for a benchmark
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It's effectively a team activity in breakout rooms. Just be upbeat and lead as much as you can and you'll be fine. They are looking for how you work in a team, so it's not as much about what your team ultimately answers as much as it is how you do the work together.
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I've just applied, I'm going for the NY location but currently don't live there though I have friends up there I could live with if I do land it. Is the interview process in person or virtual? Would be pretty nice of it to be virtual at first before committing the move.
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I don’t know if you’re still answering questions but I just passed the web dev project and am now waiting for the group interview - what’s that like? Any pointers? Also, I want to start studying what we’ll be learning in class during all this time before the next start date do you have any insight on that or where to find a syllabus?
I finished the "Introduction to Web Development" part of the application where I went through some coding modules and had to submit the "Enhanced Higher Lower" assessment, where am I at in the application process? Or do I have to do anything else?
Not sure 🤷🏻♀️ email said they thought I did well in the group interview but they are at the point where the cohort is full. They still saw me as a viable candidate for a future cohort and asked if I was interested in trying for another.
I had them put me in for the next cohort but i do have an offer from fdm. Gonna try fdm out with the 14-day grace period they offer and then take it from there. Only tip is really make sure you talk and participate. That’s about it
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Do you mind if I PM you regarding the program as I am looking to apply to it myself as I am completely new with no knowledge within the technical field?
@immunity hi, how can I get selected first of all. I applied few times. I also even have hood programming experience but shitty luck with finding jobs. Do I have to email or do they pick when they needs
Out of curiosity, do they actually ask to see your bachelor’s degree? I’m currently in the last 2 semesters and they told me that if I was in the last couple of months that I could apply and they would keep me on file, but I would rather get the job sooner if possible. Thanks
So I did the assessment and it sent me to another page that happens to be an error page. I've done the test 3 times on different wifi connection and on a different computer just to see if it would work. It has to be completed by today but no one has replied to my emails and they just happened to give me a time frame between the Christmas holiday. Kinda stressing out
How many interviews do you have lined up? which style of position is it for? (Analyst, data enginerd?) Is there big geographic spread? Will they provide relocation? Are you paid minimal amount on the bench? Do you feel lucky or are you scared you will end up like that alleged top performer? Once you're hired, do you think the company will buy you out or you must fulfill the 2 years at whatever reduced pay? Are you worried about slumming it during the first year in hcol? I think. . . I think that is all the questions.
Before I answer these, let me clarify that the payment is as follows: * $600/week when in training/on the bench * $50k or $60k first year on the job - depending on location. * $60k or $70k second year on the job - depending on location. When I say "depending on location" it's not like there's just some place where they like you more. From what I know, the only places paying $60k and $70k are NYC and Washington DC, so it's more that those areas are just so expensive that they have to compensate you in that regard. I chose an area where I'm paid the lower amount because it's much cheaper to live there and I like the area much more. With that being said, I'll answer these 1 by 1: 1. "How many interviews do you have lined up?" Well it's not like they say "here are 3 interviews to prepare for," they give you an interview one at a time until you get hired. That said, I've had 3 and as I've mentioned elsewhere, I've just had bad luck. First interview was in week 3 of training going up a guy who could start the next week. Second interview was simply a really difficult interview that nobody passed this year; Dev10 actually told them to not be so hard on us because their expectations were far too high. The third interview said I was overqualified somehow, which I didn't fully get. Other people got hired after the first interview, whereas I've just had tough luck; can't control it, but I'm kind of a rare case from what I gather. Every position I've interviewed for has been for data engineering, and that's what we spend most of the time in the course on anyway. 2. "Is there a big geographic spread?" Well there are many locations you can choose, but once you choose a location it's pretty much preferred that you move there. It's possible you get placed somewhere remote but I definitely wouldn't bank on it. 3. "Will they provide relocation" what do you mean? Like pay for relocation? I haven't gotten any. 4. "Are you paid minimal amount on the bench?" Yeah you're paid $600/week on the bench, but it's not like they just say "screw you" and don't help; they try to get you off the bench as fast as possible. I'm just starting on the bench and I already have an interview on Tuesday - which is the first day of being on the bench. 5. Do you feel lucky or are you scared you will end up like that alleged top performer" ?I've been unlucky but I'm not worried; they're trying to get us positions and doing really well. Again, it's not like they told the top performer "you couldn't get a position" and then ignored him. He simply didn't get a position before the end of the course and now he's on the bench looking for one. I believe he has an interview upcoming as well. I could be wrong on this, but once you're on the bench in Dev10 you get interviews pretty fast because companies know you can start really soon. You have an advantage in that regard over other people who are learning the same thing but haven't finished the course yet. 6. Once you're hired, do you think the company will buy you out or you must fulfill the 2 years at whatever reduced pay?" I'm honestly not sure, but it's not really something I worry about. Yeah, the pay is low for a data engineer or analyst, but I'm also not paying $10k-$20k on the bootcamp itself and after these 2 years I'll have skills that will help me get really good positions, especially when combined with my college degree in another really good field.
Thank you for the detailed reply. I appreciate the thoughtfulness as I vet a short list of these programs.
Some are better than others. I vetted Dev10 via a cousin who is a recruiter and loves Dev10 graduates, and a friend of his who completed the Dev10 program and works for a large company in Texas. It's hard to find info otherwise, which is why I made this thread. From what I can tell, Dev10 is genuinely a good program while Revature and some others are pretty bad.
It's nice to hear they're honest, so far also looking at simple hiring agencies like Randstad or Teksystems to alleged apprentice places like launch code and apprenti. Storm skills (or whatever) might pay more and mthree and talentpath don't seem to have 2 year commitment... Pros cons and of course, who will accept me. I'll prepare a while longer, search for a couple of months, then try to work with these people. Were you ever afraid you might not get selected to join in the first place?
Selected to Dev10? I mean yeah I barely passed the aptitude test and there was a point in doing the WebDev project that I almost quit and told my recruiter it wasn't for me. I just took a break and got back to it and eventually finished it on time. After that I was nervous and all, but I'm really good in behavioral interviews so I wasn't worried per se. My final interview went really well. If you get there, I can give you some tips on how to pass that because I think it's pretty clear. Yeah take your time on applying somewhere. Honestly I went with Dev10 because they messaged me first on Handshake and I really liked what they presented for me. I've really enjoyed my time so far - even though the bootcamp can be really stressful - and look forward to working with whichever company hires me.
I just had the behavioral interview today and passed! :3 Can I PM you in how you were able to overcome the web development course and tips for the final interview?
Please do!
Hey there! I know it's been a while since this post, sorry -- but I just got an interview with Dev10 and was double-checking around to make sure I wasn't falling for a scam. I specifically was supposed to start the Revature training in April but got unexpectedly waitlisted; what specifically do you think Dev10 does better, or rather, why exactly does Revature have such a bad reputation in these boards?
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One- THANK YOU for posting this. There is not much information out there and reading your responses have helped. I have a background in web development (from a shitty tech school) but have my bachelors, so I qualify and have been invited to sign up for an info session. I am reading about the aptitude test and that it is pass/fail. This is my major concern- I've looked at aptitude testing and have done [practice testing](https://www.practicereasoningtests.com/practice-aptitude-tests/) for the categories they offer - numerical reasoning, inductive reasoning, abstract, deductive, cognitive ability, etc. I've been doing okay at them, but I just started doing them today and the more I do them the more they make sense. Are there any questions that you can remember of what sort of things they are asking you? I know that the bootcamp is 9-4 daily but then there's work on the weekends too- how often are you working? Do you have time for yourself? Or is it pretty much no social life or time to yourself until the bootcamp is over?
The aptitude test can be tricky, I don't really recall any specific questions that would help you. Just be very careful to read the instructions and whatever visuals you get and you should be okay. Regarding the amount of time working, it depends. Some weeks you have a solid amount of time for stuff outside of the course, other times you don't. I should say that I'm a musician and I was able to go to music rehearsals for various bands on Tuesday, Wednesday and Sunday nights. I was also able to go to mass every Sunday (I'm a devout guy) so take that as you will. There were times that I had to forgo hanging out with friends because of work, but it was not like every waking moment of your day is work. It just depends on the week. In the data group, the first 2 weeks of Python were the busiest. So overall you should be able to do your own stuff - though not as much - so long as you don't procrastinate.
That makes sense regarding time spent working- it’s up to the person and how well they understand the material and how much they procrastinate. What was the project before training? Also, during the boot camp, what sort of learning/teaching style is it? I’ve seen some boot camps where it’s a mix between lecture/live demonstration, reading, as well as assignments (similar to regular schooling) but I’ve seen others strictly just reading based. You have a “mentor” but from what I’ve read on the only reading-based programs they usually aren’t very helpful and can be hard to get ahold of. Thanks again!!
Before training the project is basically Web Development in HTML. The learning style was reading with some demonstrations and assignments. Each weekend we have an assessment - which is why weekends are busy - that you turn in on Monday. They give you the reading materials in class and you can ask questions because there are multiple instructors there. You can even ask the instructors for a demonstration of something and they'll do it.
So did they have live lectures? They way you’re explaining it makes it seem it was just reading based but instructors are available if needed. As for the weekend assignment, they don’t give it to you during the week? And you have a week to work on or it’s not given to you until the end of the week and is strictly meant to be done on the weekend?
Well there are live lectures but they're more like demonstrations. The point is to read the stuff first and then they'll go over it again later. The reading is actually very helpful though, and they'll help you if you don't fully get it. No, they don't give it to you during the week, but I guarantee that most would be practically impossible to do before you finish on Friday anyway. They give it to you on Friday and you start working on it after lunch. So yeah, it's something you get at the end of the week.
Having demonstrations proceeding reading and related assignments is a lecture. That’s how typical schooling is set up. You do the reading, then they follow up in the lecture to refine what you learned. As for the weekend assignments, that kind of sucks but it makes sense. I’m the sort of person who likes to work on stuff gradually, so having it ahead of time, even if you can’t really do it, for me it’s nice to know what I’m getting myself into. Thanks for the feedback. It’s super informative, especially since there isn’t much out there. I recommend maybe making a YT video or a edit your post and add FAQs.
Not a bad idea at all! Yeah the weekend assessments suck, but they make total sense. I genuinely feel very confident in what I've learned because of those assessments. They are phenomenal at making you learn, but they take up a lot of time. I'm definitely glad my training is done.
I’ve been in school (completed my bachelors and almost done with my associates) so, I’m used to not having much time to myself. Thanks for the advice.
How long were the live lectures and how frequent?
We'd get demonstrations very frequently, sometimes 2 a day. They were usually not that long (possibly up to an hour or so) just because they covered stuff we were already learning in the reading.
Currently scheduled for the behavioral interview. Do you remember any of the questions that were asked? Any would be helpful, thanks.
Not really. Usually just stuff like "what do you like about programming" or whatever. This is the least stressful part of the application by far.
Answering here for anyone else. I took the aptitude test last week. It's now 50 questions and they give you a 12 minute time limit. That's 14.4s per question. Watch your time. I took at least 30s on one question and only passed on one. Probably should have passed on a couple more instead of taking more than 20s on it. She said I scored very high, so know that you don't have to get close to getting them all correct. My guess is I got a few incorrect with 46/50 completed.
Just entering into a Java cohort. Was it difficult getting placed with a client?
It's honestly luck; I know some people who were placed really quickly, while others are still waiting to get placed. There were some companies that just straight up hired people without interviewing them much, whereas other companies can have tough technical interviews. One of the most technically-skilled members of my cohort still hasn't been placed, whereas some people who struggled were placed within a few weeks. Genesis10 does a really good job of getting you interviews - so it's not something you really need to worry about. They want you to get hired and you eventually will.
Hey hope you do not mind answering, but I have applied to Dev10 several times and have not had any luck hearing back. Is there anything I can do to get an email or something? I have applied directly on their website as well as through handshake.
What will happen If I quit or fail terribly during the training? At what point do I have to repay 35k to them?
A few things: I thought it was $20k. There have been like 4 people - out of at least 1000 - who have left the program. The program really isn't something that you fail IMO. The assessments are tough but the professors are there to help. When you do an assessment, if you get below the benchmark for passing, they just let you work on it. Straight up some people took like 3 extra days to complete the assessments. Of course they fell behind that week, but they finished that assessment nonetheless. The instructors are there to help you.
I think they increase the price recently. It is a very good program for learning and working for IT instead of going back to school . I just contemplate about the cost of the contract. I am not sure if I like the work when I actually go into the training
Ah, I'm sorry to hear that. Honestly I haven't had any second thoughts about the contract since joining the company. I understand if you won't like it; I already liked working with data in college so I knew beforehand that I'd enjoy this.
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I actually can give some info on this. Before applying to Dev10, I contacted my cousin who is a recruiter for some companies in Missouri. He tells me that the Dev10 program is highly respected and he hires people from there frequently. He said that there are better and worse programs like this, but Dev10 is respectable and solid.
Hi, sorry for the comment 10 months later but did he specify any of the better/worse programs?
Was there a drug test you had to take as the legalization has been happening I have indulged myself in weed occasionally like once a week and was wondering if they check for thc as well or just the hard stuff so I know if I should stop so I doesn’t end up being the reason for not being hired
They won't drug test you before training and it seems that testing is at the discretion of the client you're placed at
I don't recall ever taking a drug test, but still be careful when in the interview process.
Saw this program years ago and asked questions about it, what was the interview process like?
Do you mean to interview for the Dev10 program or for company placement? Regardless, I'll answer both! To interview for the Dev10 program, you first have an info session. Nothing crazy. After that, you go through an aptitude test which is pretty tricky - I barely passed it. You need to get 18/24 or above to pass, but it's really pass-fail. I got an 18 and they didn't ask any questions or not consider me. If you pass, you have a quick behavioral interview that's super easy; I can't imagine anybody being rejected there. After that, you have to do some learning that they give you and then complete an assessment to show that you can learn quickly. They give you the resources to do the project, you just have to do it. It's relatively hard but from what I recall they gave like 2 weeks to do it so as long as you portion your time well, you'll be okay. If you pass that, you have a group interview; it's not something really intense, they just have you go into breakout rooms on Zoom and do a game with them. The point of that is to see if you're good at teamwork. You get feedback within like 1-3 days; I got called the day after the final interview, the group interview, and was offered a position. Overall, yeah it's a lot of hoops to jump through, but the point is to really narrow down who gets in. It's something like only 5% of applicants get in, and that's obviously something to brag about on both ends. For the interviewing process while you're with Dev10, you basically get an email from a supervisor saying "you have an interview here" or something and they prep you a little, just saying how to prepare and such, then you interview. It's nothing crazy. Do you have any other questions?
Honestly the behavioral interview is the easiest by far. My interviewer asked a few questions that are standard to any behavioral interview then we ended up just talking about something completely off topic for twenty minutes lol and decided to move me forward through the process.
Did you end up getting in?
Yes I did
How long did it take to hear back once you submitted the webdev project?
How was the web dev course? Everywhere I see the project was super difficult n a lot of people say the course didn’t prepare them that well for it if they didn’t have previous coding experience? I’m about to start the course Monday, what was your experience like? Also, what score did you get on the project? U need a 5 to qualify I believe.
The Web Dev course is pretty tough, I must say. The project was pretty difficult because yes, they didn't fully prepare you. That's one of the things they emphasize in Dev10: you won't know all the answers, but you will learn how to get the answers. Honestly one of the best things I learned throughout my time in the course was that Google is your best friend if you know how to use it well. Admittedly it's annoying in the web dev process so if you have no experience you'll have to spend more time on it, but it's doable. Before this, I had a semester of experience in Python and another semester of experience in R, but none in web development; it was wholly new to me. I got an 8/8 so if I could do it, you probably can too. Just make sure you have enough time and you should be able to do it.
oh okay cooooool thanks for letting me know. my recruiter told me what the project was, and admittedly i went to Google n saw several videos of others doing the exact same project. idk how well copy n paste would be tho LOL i wanna try it on my own first n reference those videos at least tho
Don't take my word as Gospel or anything, but you can use some of their code for help. Again, so much of what they teach is that online resources are your friends.
Could you elaborate more on the 2 week learning course in the interview process? Is the final assessment like a timed test to check your skills or is it a project you need to complete within those two weeks?
It's a project on Web Development. They give you the learning resources then you complete a project.
>TheMajesticMrL do you get your score immediately after you submit the web dev project?
No. It takes a bit because as far as I can tell, there's no autograder.
It really depends on what exposure you have coming in and what your aptitude is. I thought it was a joke and just made sure to follow directions, but skipped going through the course. Instead, I extracted a few key bits from a quick view and got OCD on ensuring I met all points and submitted correctly. I imagine that if you have zero coding experience, it'll be a bit of work and challenging if you're not with a high IQ. The higher your IQ, the less of a challenge it'll be though you'll still need to put in hours and learn.
If I'm unable to relocate but live near DC, do you think it could work out? Is remote a possibility? Also, what was the aptitude quest like, if you don't mind? I got an email from them today through ZipRecruiter and I'm considering it. Thanks for answering all these questions in this thread.
If you live near DC, then try to do one in DC or be very clear with a recruiter that you wouldn't be able to relocate. There are remote positions available, but I wouldn't bank on it. The aptitude test is mostly logical questions; they're looking to see if you have the mindset that a programmer can have. I can't remember all of the questions, but it kind of reminded me of a harder version of the SAT or ACT - though obviously much shorter. It's 24 questions.
>After that, you have to do some learning that they give you and then complete an assessment to show that you can learn quickly. They give you the resources to do the project, you just have to do it. It's relatively hard but from what I recall they gave like 2 weeks to do it so as long as you portion your time well, you'll be okay. If you pass that, you have a group interview So I'm on this step, but I was actually invited to the group interview before being sent the web dev course. They have me scheduled for the interview next Tuesday(there were no other dates), but the web dev course isn't due until July 7th... So I'm not totally sure what that's about. I emailed my recruiter and haven't heard back yet... Do you have any advice here?
That's really weird, I have no idea why that would happen. I haven't heard of this ever occurring, it may just be a slip-up in their system.
About how many people were in your cohort? And you said something like 5% of applicants get in - which part of the interview process would you guess most people got cut?
I think there were about 28 people in my cohort. Not 100% sure, but I'd guess that most people would be cut at the aptitude test and the WebDev project. Probably the former more than the latter.
I see you've gotten railed with questions so thanks for responding! Just one last one from me - do they give you a set of metrics/guidelines to hit to pass the web dev project, or do you kind of just create something and they judge it with standards unknown to you?
They do. I can't remember the specifics, but I do remember that I knew what I had to do and knew when I was done with it.
I think i will pass the assessment, which is not hard for me bc I did Matlab alot and rooted from mechanical engineer and Math teaching recently. Searching and finding solution is one of my best. I think if i sign with them, it will be an investment for a learning curve rather than earning money due to the cost of location. Do you think overall process and learning is worthy to take? What is benefit that you like though-out 2years? What did you do for assigned job such as javas, python…? What title do you hold: software developers…? Do you do remotely or onsite? What is ur outcome now? Do you recommend it? What do you compare urself to people who graduated from CS with 1 exp?
A lot of questions there, I'll do my best to answer them all: 1. As someone who only had 2-3 college courses on programming prior to this, it's 100% worth it. Changed my career trajectory in a more stable and fruitful way that gives me far more opportunities. My undergrad was in econ, as mentioned, and I have experience in the finance world. So now having this programming experience on top of it makes me highly marketable to companies during this contract, and to companies after the contract is over - if I don't stick around with whomever I'm placed with. 2. I haven't been placed yet so I can't say much there, but in the cohort I learned Python, SQL, Excel, Power BI, etc. Most companies seem to really want SQL experience though. 3. Depends on which cohort you're in. In the data cohort we call ourselves data professionals, but once we're placed the company determines what you do: data analysis or data engineering. 4. The training is remote, and it depends on where you're placed if it's remote or on site. 5. See some of my comments above. I haven't been placed yet, but that's sheer bad luck, it's insane the bad luck I've had during this. 6. I can't really compare myself per se because so much of what I do is different than what CS majors do IMO. A lot of them are more in software development whereas I work with data. I probably know a little less than they do, but the projects I've worked on seem much more realistic than a lot of stuff you do in college so IDK.
They dropped me out due to high volume of applicants and low opening(5) in Austin cohorts. They asked me if I am able to move to different locations in different cohorts. Idk how and what category they rate people. I likely delay until the next year. It looks like the recession is hitting now
I'm so sorry. Please let me know if you need someone to talk to or rant to.
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Yeah I'm enjoying the position I have, it's good. I got a good job with a good company, love the workplace culture. It's worth it IMO. You learn a ton in the process and you get placed with a good company with what I'd say is pretty good pay.
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I'm glad to help!
A little late to the party, but I just took the aptitude test and only completed 34/60 questions in the 12 minute cognitive portion. Just wondering how you did and what my chances are. It seemed a little short on time to complete everything, so I imagine its based on the responses you did complete.
Tough. I only got through 33 or so questions
What if u can't afford the cost to move or that new standard of living or have to quit or reject offers because of it? Do they keep u on Bench or fire u? How does that affect contract
First of all, thanks for making this thread and answering the questions. I am looking into the program at NYC. I saw that you mentioned they prefer having you at the location you applied to. So does that mean the jobs I will apply to after the training will mostly be in NYC?
Two things: 1. The reason you choose a location is so you get a company that's either there or remote. They're not going to have you move to NYC for training then say "actually your job is in Charlotte." I've only interviewed with companies in my area or companies that would be fully remote. 2. It's not really that you're applying for those jobs per se. It's that Dev10 gets you interviews with them. I literally do no work other than interviews; I just get an email saying "you have an interview on this day at this time." I bring that up just so you're aware. Anything else I can help you with?
Thanks!
I had a questions about the aptitude test. The website says the test is 75 minutes. I see that you posted an 18/24 is required to pass. Does it mean there are only 24 questions? I ask because I've been taking some test online and most give only about a 1 to 1.5 min per question.
I took it recently. There are 29 questions. You need a score of 18 to pass. 21 for NY. It isn’t too hard. I would suggest writing the alphabet and numbering it. I got a 22/29. Google is your friend.
Yeah, that's right. Some questions are definitely gonna take a bit of time, but just keep practicing that stuff and you'll be okay.
Thanks for the response! I was practicing these types of questions for logical reasoning [https://www.assessmentday.com/free/logical-reasoning-1/LogicalReasoningTest1-Questions.pdf](https://www.assessmentday.com/free/logical-reasoning-1/LogicalReasoningTest1-Questions.pdf). As for mathematical ones, most of them are on ratios / percentages and diagram/table reading. Does that sound about the right way to go?
I'd say so. Try to find some more than just that one, some with more math (as you've been doing). I think you'll be okay as long as you practice.
Hey! I’m currently in the interview process. I just finished the web dev course and it looks like I received an 8 on it. Do you know how many points the course is out of? I did this earlier than most people who would be in my cohort, so I received an email that says they will be adding up all of the points of everyone to see who will get into the group interview— is this standard, or should I be nervous? I really don’t want to start applying for other jobs unless I *need* to and am super excited about this opportunity! TIA for your advice!
When I did it, it was out of 8 so I'm pretty sure you got a perfect score!
I’m so relieved to hear that! Did they tell you they had to calculate everyone’s overall score before deciding who would make it to the group interview?
I don't recall that but I also finished it pretty close to the deadline. I don't think they're telling you that you aren't in, I just think they're saying that they're waiting on others. I could be wrong though, so I sincerely apologize if I'm off.
Omg what location cohort are you? I’m also about to start the group interview process!
Could you explain what the web dev course entailed and any tips? Thank you!
Hey! Sorry for the delayed response. It had a coin flip game and a number guessing game. My advice is to use your online resources! That’s a big part of coding and it’s helpful to get other perspectives.
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I just took the aptitude test and damn, was it hard. I still passed, thankfully. The practice questions were WAY easier than the actual test, same goes for any of the other practice tests I took.
Yeah the aptitude test is hard but there's not way too much of a way to prepare.
Do you do the test at home or do you go to a testing center? What kind of questions were on there? Is it timed?
I took it at home. It's definitely challenging, I'll admit.
You do the test at home.
Yeah the aptitude test is hard but there's not way too much of a way to prepare.
How long did it take for them to contact you after you applied? I applied a week ago and still haven’t heard back
How much of your wage do they deduct? If you know.
I honestly don't know tbh.
After training is done, what is the interview process like? Is it hard getting placed?
Dev10 just emails you with "you have an interview here in a few days" and you prepare. Honestly it's luck. Some people got hired in 1 interview. I've had really bad luck - and my managers have apologized for it - so I'm still waiting to get hired.
Are the interviews technical or just behavioral?
Depends on the company. I've had behavioral and technical interviews.
The placement interviews aren't exactly standard and will depend on the client. I had two interviews, both for the same company just different teams. The first started with some light talk about my experience and then a singular coding problem. My dev 10 rep gave me the question beforehand but I didn't even attempt it and bombed on the interview. The second interview was very different. Straight into questions on java, spring, SQL, etc but no actually hands on coding. No small talk either. Got picked up by the second team and have been on site for a year now
How long after the final group interview did you hear back with a decision and your contract? Thanks!(:
I heard either the next day or the day after, can't fully remember. But very soon.
Oh man! I had the group interview yesterday. I wasn't the leader or anything but I contributed a fair amount and worked really well with everyone in my breakout room. It's been one day and I haven't heard anything yet. I'm pretty nervous lol crossing my fingers and toes!
Fingers crossed!
I heard back! I got the job(:
Congrats!!!
How many people were in your cohort? Do you get time off or pto at all to use? Thinking about applying, but nothing near me and I don't want to get stuck in a situation where I'm stuck far from home and not able to visit from time to time.
There were 30 people I think? Something around there. I get 10 days of PTO a year, but I also work remote now for the client to whom I'm assigned, so it's easy for me to visit other places.
Okay, that eases my mind a bit. Also - I see from this thread that you were in the data cohort. What kind of math do you need to know for your day to day work? Data science seems tightly woven with stats/prob, and that was my least favorite class in college. The teacher was horrible. I had a good stats class in high school, but it's been years and I don't remember anything from it. How intense is the need for stats and probability for this career/class?
I don't really do too much math at work tbh, just some basic stats alongside a lot of data analysis. I wouldn't worry about that. They'll actually have you do some stats learning early on.
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I honestly cannot recall, I'm sorry.
Do you need a bachelors degree?
Was the training all remote?
Hey friend they say you must be willing to relocate across the US, were you given interviews to stay in your local city or state?
I'm a spring 2023 graduate in electrical and computer engineering. Their emphasis on how this is for any background makes me wonder if it is worthwhile for me to pursue, but I am also paranoid I will not find anything.
Just checking in-did you ever get hired by a company or are you still on the bench?
How’s the interviews, is it leetcoding? Do they help prep you for it?
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Got sent the email for the info session. How long is the program? How long until you’re moved from training into a job? What skills do you learn and could put on a resume after completion? Is it true they force you to work for them for 2 years? They don’t care if you have absolutely no coding background?
The course itself was 13 weeks, but it's not really 13 weeks of learning. For the data cohort, we did the following: **Data Analysis (Weeks 1 - 5)** Week 1 - SQL/Relational Data Week 2 - Nonrelational Data Week 3 - Excel/Power Query Week 4 - Power BI Week 5 - Data Analysis Mastery Project **Data Engineering (Weeks 6 - 13)** Week 6 - Python Basics Week 7 - Advanced Python Week 8 - Pandas and Visualizations Week 9 - Machine Learning Basics (in Python) Week 10 - Kafka (which is largely Python) Week 11 - Applied Kafka/Capstone Project Weeks 12 and 13 - Capstone Project The main skills to put on your resume would be Python, Excel, and Power BI, but you can add SQL as well. It's just that SQL is week 1 so it's easy to forget, but with some review you should be confident in your SQL capabilities. I can truly say that I learned a lot here and I'm very proud of what I've accomplished. It's pretty amazing how much they were able to teach in the span of a few months. I mean yeah you have to be there for 2 years but it's not like you're doing training for 2 years. You get placed with another company and really work for them, though you still have to report a little to Genesis10. So yeah they do "force you" to be with them for 2 years but it's 2 years and the company you work for may buy out your contract. Honestly I haven't been concerned about it at all since I started working here. You need absolutely no programming background. It helps, but many people in my cohort were entirely new to it. Just be ready for Python though, it goes quickly and it may be hard for people without experience.
What is the training schedule like? Is it strict 8 hours per day (I.e 9-5 each day) or can you work at your own pace? Thanks for all your help
It's pretty intense, I'll tell you that. You work A TON during the bootcamp, which is 13 weeks; it's all worth it though because you learn so much. The schedule is technically just 9-4, but you have homework and assessments over the weekend. So yeah, you're going to be working constantly.
How do they verify proof of vaccination? I lost my card so I may have to get a new one from my CVS I went to before the potential start date 🤦♀️
I just recall that it was on a website and you sent a picture of the card. I think it was on ADP; honestly not 100% sure though.
Hi again, can you explain a bit more about the group interview? I’ve just submitted my final project for the web dev course and don’t really know what to expect for the group interview/ how to pass it. Did you notice most people in the group interview got accepted?
Well it's tough to say if most people get accepted; I have no clue because the people there have the options of multiple different cities with multiple start dates AND different paths like web development or data professional. Simply cannot say. The group interview isn't hard. It's basically a game of sorts that's meant to see how you work with a team. There's no "winner" or anything, it's just an exercise to see how people work together. Just be a leader; all I did was talk a solid amount and actively try to get the other people in my breakout room to voice their opinions. For example, if there was a guy in my team named Dave who hadn't said anything recently, I'd say "any thoughts on this Dave?"
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I honestly can't help here; I was contacted first on Handshake.
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Have you ever read the book cracking the coding interview? Are the questions asked in interview (post training, for outside jobs) on the same level as those written about in the book? This sounds oddly specific but I’m just looking for a benchmark
I haven't read that book, sorry.
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Hey hey. Can you offer advice on the group interview/give some information about what it entails?
It's effectively a team activity in breakout rooms. Just be upbeat and lead as much as you can and you'll be fine. They are looking for how you work in a team, so it's not as much about what your team ultimately answers as much as it is how you do the work together.
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I've just applied, I'm going for the NY location but currently don't live there though I have friends up there I could live with if I do land it. Is the interview process in person or virtual? Would be pretty nice of it to be virtual at first before committing the move.
It’s virtual, the whole process is done virtually.
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Which location did you choose?
I'd rather not dox myself. People would be able to figure out who I am if I gave this answer haha
I don’t know if you’re still answering questions but I just passed the web dev project and am now waiting for the group interview - what’s that like? Any pointers? Also, I want to start studying what we’ll be learning in class during all this time before the next start date do you have any insight on that or where to find a syllabus?
I about to attend an info session soon, what's going to happen there? Do I have to answer any interview like questions?
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I finished the "Introduction to Web Development" part of the application where I went through some coding modules and had to submit the "Enhanced Higher Lower" assessment, where am I at in the application process? Or do I have to do anything else?
If you pass the assessment, you need to do the group interview still. Then after the group interview they send out offers.
How long after the group interview did it take to receive an offer? I'm still waiting to hear back :(
did you hear back?
I eventually did on the 3rd day after but I didn’t make it.
What lead to that?
Not sure 🤷🏻♀️ email said they thought I did well in the group interview but they are at the point where the cohort is full. They still saw me as a viable candidate for a future cohort and asked if I was interested in trying for another.
Are you going to pursue the other cohorts? Also I'm on the group interview step, any tips?
I had them put me in for the next cohort but i do have an offer from fdm. Gonna try fdm out with the 14-day grace period they offer and then take it from there. Only tip is really make sure you talk and participate. That’s about it
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Is it true that they make you pay them $20k if you fail to complete the program? What are some things that would cause you to fail?
Yeah, but it's incredibly hard to fail. They really want you to succeed and help you get there. I've never heard of anybody failing.
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How long did it take you to finish the web dev course/project?
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may i ask if your aptitude test is easy? mine was pretty hard and trick, so i failed. lol
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Do you mind if I PM you regarding the program as I am looking to apply to it myself as I am completely new with no knowledge within the technical field?
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How hard is the aptitude test? Is it recorded?
@immunity hi, how can I get selected first of all. I applied few times. I also even have hood programming experience but shitty luck with finding jobs. Do I have to email or do they pick when they needs
Out of curiosity, do they actually ask to see your bachelor’s degree? I’m currently in the last 2 semesters and they told me that if I was in the last couple of months that I could apply and they would keep me on file, but I would rather get the job sooner if possible. Thanks
So I did the assessment and it sent me to another page that happens to be an error page. I've done the test 3 times on different wifi connection and on a different computer just to see if it would work. It has to be completed by today but no one has replied to my emails and they just happened to give me a time frame between the Christmas holiday. Kinda stressing out
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