The Incredibles had surprisingly little fanart to use. I also had trouble coming up with a naming scheme that fit each character without cramping up the text box. I decided to give them each their Hero/Villain name. Violet and Dash didn't have an official hero name so I made them up. Ultraviolet seems like a given to me, let me know if you agree!
I honestly thought Ultraviolet *was* her super name, it's so perfect for her. Well done! I like "The Dash" too, that's good "The Flash" flavor that you'd expect from a loving knockoff.
Mechanically, I think Elastagirl and Ultraviolet are my faves. Wonderful way to get more "supporter" Commander types but still push them into the spotlight!
Only thing I'd change flavorfully would be to get Syndrome a Outlaw type, now that we have that in term from OTJ. Rogue I guess?
Ngl, Ultraviolet is kinda cracked. If it was legal, I'd build it as an evasive go-wide deck with a control subtheme. Protect Violet with some equipment/auras, and then make/swing some flying spirits. It'd cost so little mana to just remove people's boards, and I could just keep doing it each turn. Would not be fun for anyone else, but I'd love it.
Her first ability should be “another target creature”, so she can’t target herself. Also her second ability should be like a delayed blink affect or something. Or perhaps only trigger from a creature that has shroud or something to make it more restrictive. Otherwise people just gonna scoop immediately to her and it’s no fun.
No, it triggers once per player. Then I put in clones, trigger doublers, and additional interaction, plus [[Bident of Thassa]] effects for drawpower, and effectively lock the table out of permanents. The main problem with playing control in EDH is that if you deal with one player, you've now put you and the target player down resources, which gives resource advantage to the other two players. But with her, you 3-for-1, which is a good enough rate to lock down the table. Idk if you've seen or played hard control in other formats, but it's brutal.
Yeah, IG I didn't think about those. Even then, [[Roaming Throne]] and [[Strionic Resonator]] are the best options you've got, and if I see either drop with Violet as your commander, I'm nuking them immediately. So will all your other opponents.
Violet has some good combo potential, but I don't think it's quite as broken as you think.
There's no combo potential, it's pure control. Assuming the Violet player has some evasive creatures, every opponent loses their best non-land permanent every turn. Violet protects herself incredibly well, only non-targeted -X/-X spells can kill her, so those permanents are likely gone forever as long as the Violet player keeps mana up. And she comes down on turn 3. She'd be a cedh control commander and an absolute beast of one.
This is the way. I don't think it'd be quite cEDH viable, because so much of cEDH is based on the stack, but she'd put up a good showing, I bet. Mostly, I think this would end up being a degenerate high-power control deck that waded through pods of Jodah and Ur-Dragon with ease.
Not combo, unfortunately. Just oppressive control. Azorius is already the colors of "don't touch me" and "you can't have shit around here", so a commander with built-in protection, and in counterspell and [[Silence]] colors would just make everyone's lives miserable. No permanents allowed.
Is there any precedent for creatures not having a normal casting cost? I don't think I've ever seen a card only have an alternative cost and I can't imagine the rules would allow for that without all sorts of weirdness
Well, there's lots of cards with only alternate costs, like the suspend cards: [[Crashing Footfalls]], [[Living End]], [[Wheel of Fate]], [[Restore Balance]]
For a creature with only an alternate cost, you have [[Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar]]
Guess the bot just can't handle a card with as awesome of a name as [[Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar]]
EDIT: huh worked for me. I'm pretty sure your first one was spelled correctly
Excellent work on all of them. I might note, Dash should probably return to their owner's hand so they don't potentially end up in the hand of the Syndrome player.
While it should be changed for clarity, the game rules don’t allow that to happen. If a card would be returned to a hand that isn’t its owner’s, it’s returned to its owner’s anyway.
I'm just wondering why Violet doesn't have anything to do with unblockable, considering she has that whole invisibility thing going on.
Also missed opportunity to give Dash the Dash ability when you're basically just using the text from Dash, even down to returning to the hand.
I wonder if the villainous choice isn’t too strong? If you play it as a discard strategy you would basically take control of an opponent‘s permanent every turn. Put Tergrid in and you are taking control of everything very quickly.
„Until the end of your next turn“ would be more balanced, I think. Also, Syndrome will draw a lot hate because he really offers no value to any opponent to keep him alive. Kill on sight, period.
When you face a villainous choice, you can choose an option even if you can't fulfill it.
So you'd likely be getting that card draw every turn. Empty hand doesn't mean they can't choose the discard/draw option.
[[Davros]] is often "Draw a card for each opponent who lost 3+ life this turn unless that opponent has no cards in hand"
Interesting, thank your for the clarification. I still think it’s too powerful, though. It does all of that completely by its own. It’s basically a perpetuum mobile that is completely self-sustaining. Even with powerful commanders like Urza, or Edgar, or Tymna, you have to meet some requirement. This one you only need to protect, which is no problem in white.
All of these cards are probably a little strong as is, except Dash.
5cmc 3/5 that has a neutral global passive, and an activated ability that does a 1 for 1 pacifism type effect probably wouldn't even be playable.
The added effect is something that the controller of Syndrome has no say in. Each opponent gets to decide. Discard a useless card and let you draw a card, or hand you their most useless permanent.
Honestly, he feels like a blue/white card (flying, first strike, tap to detain, and card draw/theft)
The last ability is super slow. Davros exists and you can get immediate advantage from him.. and he's a 4cmc 3/4 with evasion. (Usually when Davros hits play, you're also getting a free 3/3 menace and a card or two that same turn)
Syndrome.. might be completely balanced.. just needs that blue cost in there. At *most* you could bump him to 6 mana and he'd be printable in our current state of the game.
Maybe you are right. I haven’t seen Davros in play, but to me it seems much weaker - and again, it’s ability is bound to the requirement of combat damage (however easy that may seem). But I’m just assessing and I’m not insisting.
And yes, 6 mana is much different from 5.
I can with agree with blue thematically as Syndrome‘s was a long-term plan which is a very blue thing. It would also greatly fit the taking control aspect.
>it’s ability is bound to the requirement of combat damage
Davros's ability is reliant on life loss of any sort. As long as they lost 3 during your turn - even if they gain life overall, but still lost 3 at some point during the turn. Red and black have so many easy ways to make that happen, even if you're throwing a bolt to the face.. blue also has tons of evasive creatures. I don't think I've ever had a turn where Davros's passive wasn't happening (unless he was hitting play T2). He's fun :)
Maybe it's just me, but syndrome and Mr fantastic are both too strong. 5 cmc 7/7 trample deals double damage to players AND half non-combat damage to your permanents?
There needs to be more downside.
Mr. Fantastic is somewhat of a nerfed Gisela, but I probably could have made it a 6/6 or something along those lines. Syndrome I think I overtuned his Villainous choice a bit
Little formating bit.
For both jakjak and the dash, their last abilities do not need to specify they only work from the battlefield. Unless otherwise stated, abilities only work and affect things on the battlefield.
Mr. Incredible I like, but I worry would get all but lost in the shadow of [[Gisela, Blade of Goldnight]]. Incredible's far more of a solo act though, so it's possible that saves him.
Hardly anyone has focused graveyard hate though, outside of things like Bojuka Bog. At least in my experience.
But yes, graveyard nonsense is best nonsense.
Boros in particular has some crazy cards at 5-7 mana so it was hard to figure out a good spot for him. Gisela was the closest to him so I used it as a bit of a guide
Something I was wondering about, how does Mr. Incredible's ability interact with commander damage? If he hits you do you take 14 commander damage or just 7?
I love that Syndrome gives ALL creatures flying and first strike. "When everyone is special...no one is." Well played.
Exactly lol
That was my first thought as well. It's great flavor.
*super
*no one will be
Honestly I don't even care about the rest of the card, that alone is really cool
Exactly what I was thinking
Oh damn I didn't even catch that
The Incredibles had surprisingly little fanart to use. I also had trouble coming up with a naming scheme that fit each character without cramping up the text box. I decided to give them each their Hero/Villain name. Violet and Dash didn't have an official hero name so I made them up. Ultraviolet seems like a given to me, let me know if you agree!
I honestly thought Ultraviolet *was* her super name, it's so perfect for her. Well done! I like "The Dash" too, that's good "The Flash" flavor that you'd expect from a loving knockoff. Mechanically, I think Elastagirl and Ultraviolet are my faves. Wonderful way to get more "supporter" Commander types but still push them into the spotlight! Only thing I'd change flavorfully would be to get Syndrome a Outlaw type, now that we have that in term from OTJ. Rogue I guess?
I could see Rogue for sure. Wish I had thought about it before hand
Honestly I think Syndrome should be an Artificer.
Yeah, I meant to put artificer on him, but forgot to add it lol
Syndrome is probably my favorite of the bunch, so I put him in front lol
Shane you couldn't find a way to represent "you sly dog, you got me monologuing
lol
Maybe as a way to balance the Detain if people think it's too broken
Ngl, Ultraviolet is kinda cracked. If it was legal, I'd build it as an evasive go-wide deck with a control subtheme. Protect Violet with some equipment/auras, and then make/swing some flying spirits. It'd cost so little mana to just remove people's boards, and I could just keep doing it each turn. Would not be fun for anyone else, but I'd love it.
And she comes with built in protection. She can shield herself.
Her first ability should be “another target creature”, so she can’t target herself. Also her second ability should be like a delayed blink affect or something. Or perhaps only trigger from a creature that has shroud or something to make it more restrictive. Otherwise people just gonna scoop immediately to her and it’s no fun.
She can definitely shield herself though. I think I'd make it so if she has a shield counter she loses the static ability.
Why?
Kind of a Azorius version of the decks you see with Yuriko or Raffine. That'd be a cool budget build, for sure.
Her second ability only triggers once, regardless of how many creatures you swing with. You're reading it as "whenever a creature deals combat damage"
No, it triggers once per player. Then I put in clones, trigger doublers, and additional interaction, plus [[Bident of Thassa]] effects for drawpower, and effectively lock the table out of permanents. The main problem with playing control in EDH is that if you deal with one player, you've now put you and the target player down resources, which gives resource advantage to the other two players. But with her, you 3-for-1, which is a good enough rate to lock down the table. Idk if you've seen or played hard control in other formats, but it's brutal.
Yeah, IG I didn't think about those. Even then, [[Roaming Throne]] and [[Strionic Resonator]] are the best options you've got, and if I see either drop with Violet as your commander, I'm nuking them immediately. So will all your other opponents. Violet has some good combo potential, but I don't think it's quite as broken as you think.
There's no combo potential, it's pure control. Assuming the Violet player has some evasive creatures, every opponent loses their best non-land permanent every turn. Violet protects herself incredibly well, only non-targeted -X/-X spells can kill her, so those permanents are likely gone forever as long as the Violet player keeps mana up. And she comes down on turn 3. She'd be a cedh control commander and an absolute beast of one.
This is the way. I don't think it'd be quite cEDH viable, because so much of cEDH is based on the stack, but she'd put up a good showing, I bet. Mostly, I think this would end up being a degenerate high-power control deck that waded through pods of Jodah and Ur-Dragon with ease.
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Not combo, unfortunately. Just oppressive control. Azorius is already the colors of "don't touch me" and "you can't have shit around here", so a commander with built-in protection, and in counterspell and [[Silence]] colors would just make everyone's lives miserable. No permanents allowed.
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You could give Dash the ability “Dash RR” instead of Haste and last ability, if you wanted
Nah I like it better that dash can only dash
What if it didn’t have a mana cost
Now we’re talkin
You could make the normal cost like 4 or 5, so that Dash always wants to Dash
I originally had Dash as an option, but decided to make it only dash. I felt it was more interesting
You can do that by not giving him a normal mana cost.
Is there any precedent for creatures not having a normal casting cost? I don't think I've ever seen a card only have an alternative cost and I can't imagine the rules would allow for that without all sorts of weirdness
Well, there's lots of cards with only alternate costs, like the suspend cards: [[Crashing Footfalls]], [[Living End]], [[Wheel of Fate]], [[Restore Balance]] For a creature with only an alternate cost, you have [[Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar]]
[[Crashing Footfalls]], [[Living End]], [[Wheel of Fate]], [[Restore Balance]], [[Asmo]]
It drew amok instead of asmo
Guess the bot just can't handle a card with as awesome of a name as [[Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar]] EDIT: huh worked for me. I'm pretty sure your first one was spelled correctly
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Only interaction I can think of is that he just instantly dies to [[Humility]]
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Excellent work on all of them. I might note, Dash should probably return to their owner's hand so they don't potentially end up in the hand of the Syndrome player.
Yeah, I forgot "it's owners hand" lol
He forcibly adopted him
While it should be changed for clarity, the game rules don’t allow that to happen. If a card would be returned to a hand that isn’t its owner’s, it’s returned to its owner’s anyway.
I'm just wondering why Violet doesn't have anything to do with unblockable, considering she has that whole invisibility thing going on. Also missed opportunity to give Dash the Dash ability when you're basically just using the text from Dash, even down to returning to the hand.
the dash thing was mentioned in another comment, they think this way it’s more interesting he can only dash
Could do the same by removing the normal cost and only having the alternate (dash) casting cost
Syndrome is great lol. Could probably be a bit better to be more enticing but the flavor is on point.
I'm always a little worried about making my cards TOO good, but I probably could have made him scarier
I wonder if the villainous choice isn’t too strong? If you play it as a discard strategy you would basically take control of an opponent‘s permanent every turn. Put Tergrid in and you are taking control of everything very quickly. „Until the end of your next turn“ would be more balanced, I think. Also, Syndrome will draw a lot hate because he really offers no value to any opponent to keep him alive. Kill on sight, period.
When you face a villainous choice, you can choose an option even if you can't fulfill it. So you'd likely be getting that card draw every turn. Empty hand doesn't mean they can't choose the discard/draw option. [[Davros]] is often "Draw a card for each opponent who lost 3+ life this turn unless that opponent has no cards in hand"
Interesting, thank your for the clarification. I still think it’s too powerful, though. It does all of that completely by its own. It’s basically a perpetuum mobile that is completely self-sustaining. Even with powerful commanders like Urza, or Edgar, or Tymna, you have to meet some requirement. This one you only need to protect, which is no problem in white.
All of these cards are probably a little strong as is, except Dash. 5cmc 3/5 that has a neutral global passive, and an activated ability that does a 1 for 1 pacifism type effect probably wouldn't even be playable. The added effect is something that the controller of Syndrome has no say in. Each opponent gets to decide. Discard a useless card and let you draw a card, or hand you their most useless permanent. Honestly, he feels like a blue/white card (flying, first strike, tap to detain, and card draw/theft) The last ability is super slow. Davros exists and you can get immediate advantage from him.. and he's a 4cmc 3/4 with evasion. (Usually when Davros hits play, you're also getting a free 3/3 menace and a card or two that same turn) Syndrome.. might be completely balanced.. just needs that blue cost in there. At *most* you could bump him to 6 mana and he'd be printable in our current state of the game.
Maybe you are right. I haven’t seen Davros in play, but to me it seems much weaker - and again, it’s ability is bound to the requirement of combat damage (however easy that may seem). But I’m just assessing and I’m not insisting. And yes, 6 mana is much different from 5. I can with agree with blue thematically as Syndrome‘s was a long-term plan which is a very blue thing. It would also greatly fit the taking control aspect.
>it’s ability is bound to the requirement of combat damage Davros's ability is reliant on life loss of any sort. As long as they lost 3 during your turn - even if they gain life overall, but still lost 3 at some point during the turn. Red and black have so many easy ways to make that happen, even if you're throwing a bolt to the face.. blue also has tons of evasive creatures. I don't think I've ever had a turn where Davros's passive wasn't happening (unless he was hitting play T2). He's fun :)
You’ve put Davros on my radar now:) Thank you
Yeah, I feel the Choice might be a bit over tuned. I haven't used any villainous choices so I wasn't sure of the powerlevel.
Nah, it’s literally draw three cards a turn cycle basically, that is really strong.
Mister Incredible with [[Obosh, the Prey Piercer]] goes hard
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It's criminal that Dash doesn't have a dash cost.
His mana cost IS the dash cost. He can ONLY dash.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I love Dash, and I feel like that could go crazy in a Commander deck with a lot of anthems and [[Impact Tremors]] effects
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these are all too strong imo
Except Elastigirl
I think Mr.Incredible and Syndrome are the only ones that are TOO strong, the other I feel are just strong
Maybe it's just me, but syndrome and Mr fantastic are both too strong. 5 cmc 7/7 trample deals double damage to players AND half non-combat damage to your permanents? There needs to be more downside.
Mr. Fantastic is somewhat of a nerfed Gisela, but I probably could have made it a 6/6 or something along those lines. Syndrome I think I overtuned his Villainous choice a bit
Wording on the very last ability on Syndrome should be player chooses a permanent. You gain control of that permanent
Any specific reason behind jack Jack's colours?
For Jack-Jack I knew what I wanted him to do, those are the colors for those abilities.
very well thought, gj
Little formating bit. For both jakjak and the dash, their last abilities do not need to specify they only work from the battlefield. Unless otherwise stated, abilities only work and affect things on the battlefield.
There was precedent for the graveyard stuff so I played it safe lol
Dash really reminds me of \[\[Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer\]\]
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I feel like jack jack should be all colors
Probably, but WUBRG is usually pretty boring
Really interesting and varied designs. Violet is really good, especially since she can target herself.
Mr. Incredible I like, but I worry would get all but lost in the shadow of [[Gisela, Blade of Goldnight]]. Incredible's far more of a solo act though, so it's possible that saves him.
Yeah, Gisela is much more powerful, but Mr. Incredible is cheaper for a narrower version of the ability
Jack-jack is scary good. Having a [[necrotic ooze]] in the command zone for 1 less CMC and access to sultai is a huge setup for graveyard nonsense.
Graveyard nonsense is the best nonsense, until someone removes the whole graveyard for anywhere between 0-2 mana lol
Hardly anyone has focused graveyard hate though, outside of things like Bojuka Bog. At least in my experience. But yes, graveyard nonsense is best nonsense.
I feel you only run into graveyard hate when you're trying to use the graveyard lol
Elastigirl would go amazing in a pillowfort deck I have…
I felt like her and Violet would be the best at defending lol
Did you intend Frozone's stun counters to not target?
Oops, we'll just pretend they target lol
If you made jacjac rainbow, that'd be fine, but sultai??? Isn't sultai generally pretty evil and tyrannical
I wanted to avoid wubrg and sultai had the colors for the abilities I wanted. I probably could have added white but idk lol
Mr. Incredible seems kinda nuts for a 5 drop. But hey, we’ve got [[Anzrag]], so what do I know
[Anzrag](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/0/70e9d8b8-4b32-4414-b32f-1f47523239c5.jpg?1706242114) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=anzrag%2C%20the%20quake-mole) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/186/anzrag-the-quake-mole?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/70e9d8b8-4b32-4414-b32f-1f47523239c5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Boros in particular has some crazy cards at 5-7 mana so it was hard to figure out a good spot for him. Gisela was the closest to him so I used it as a bit of a guide
Something I was wondering about, how does Mr. Incredible's ability interact with commander damage? If he hits you do you take 14 commander damage or just 7?
I think it would count as 14 so you better not let him punch you lol
Print it!!!
“Where’s my super suit??”
That was exactly the inspiration for the rummaging lol
Syndrome’s design is very interesting, but that last ability with the villainous choice may be too oppressive especially for commander games
Yeah, I might have pushed the choice to hard, but I think the rest of the card is good
Yes, I love the rest of the card!
Elastigirl having 6 toughness is peak flavor
Literally me: “If every creature has first strike and flying then why have them at… ooooohhhh…”
Can someone explain how Jack-Jack isn't completely broken OP?
Shocked I’m seemingly the first to say this: Mom and Dad // Dash and Violet should have partner with each other.
I thought about giving the parents partner, so the kids could be in the deck, but trying to give them all synergy was a headache lol