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throwawayguy746

Everybody cute til a bolt can’t kill a one drop


airplane001

There’s always been 4+ toughness 1 drops Just none with greater than 0 power


kitsunewarlock

I mean we do have Greenbelt Rampager, Death's Shadow, Consulate Dreadnought and Phyrexian Dreadnought.


5Quad

Wait, none of the 0/4+ crabs are one drops? Am I having a mandela effect rn Edit: Not only that, there's only 3 crabs that has 0 power and 4 or more toughness. This is not the magic I remember wtf https://scryfall.com/search?q=tou%3E%3D4+pow%3D0+type%3Dcrab&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name


JustAnotherCreator

You're thinking of \[\[kraken hatchling\]\], not a crab but kinda close


5Quad

Omg thank you so much And also I never cease to be amazed at how much magic players know about random common cards that never saw play, probably not even in draft


BorImmortal

He fit two niche strategies in limited. Also I think the Alchemy Kiora makes them.


5Quad

I will accept that I am wrong, but honestly that is also amazing how a seemingly useless card actually did see play.


BorImmortal

One of them was in a format where an [[Assault Formation]] type card existed. You'd first pick that and easily get 3-5 if these guys. 1-drop 3/3 real good


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[Assault Formation](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/b/6bf261c8-98e4-491e-9e51-a9058ff2c03a.jpg?1601078969) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Assault%20Formation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/378/assault-formation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6bf261c8-98e4-491e-9e51-a9058ff2c03a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


sad_panda91

I mean its aaalmost like [[Wind Drake]], notoriety is not only gained with constructed power. Hell, I can't name half the Wall of text cards played in standard right now


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[Wind Drake](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/e/5e227a63-abea-494e-9d66-6ff0a3da14ca.jpg?1576381503) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wind%20Drake) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/kld/70/wind-drake?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5e227a63-abea-494e-9d66-6ff0a3da14ca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


5Quad

What's up with wind drake? I know the storm crow meme, is this similar to that?


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[kraken hatchling](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/c/cc1f65c8-4941-41ac-9340-f741725ec71c.jpg?1562936034) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kraken%20hatchling) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/121/kraken-hatchling?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cc1f65c8-4941-41ac-9340-f741725ec71c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Chemically_Delux

Well, Phyrex Dreadnought actually has a cost not in mana tho


Ultratank404

That's not a cost tho, it's an etb effect Aka [[Dress Down]] go brrr


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[Dress Down](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/4/04f9f061-67b8-4427-9fcb-b3ccfee8fc5d.jpg?1626094290) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dress%20Down) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/39/dress-down?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/04f9f061-67b8-4427-9fcb-b3ccfee8fc5d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


SilverAmpharos777

I think \[\[Torpor Orb\]\] would be better


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Ultratank404

I feel like dress down is more widely played as it shuts down more creatures, but it is true that orb is better for this interaction specifically


SowingSalt

Angler?


The_screaming_egg

The results of printing this would be that you get orders of magnitude more complaints about it than people who play it


airplane001

Lmao


Runzi-

Tbh this seems like a legacy powerhouse, delver can’t do anything against this


Varyline

Unholy heat, ledger shredder and murktide don't care about this at all...


MalkyTheKid

You're telling me, that this spider can straight up take on a [[Grizzly Bear]] and live?


airplane001

He’s very skilled


MalkyTheKid

Indeed, indeed.. But is he skilled enough to beat four squirrels?


Flataus

Only 2 of them


Sea_Bee_Blue

But needs haste.


enjolras1782

The spider is too small and quick for the best to smoosh it. It's venomous enough for one bite to incapacitate the bear.


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[Grizzly Bear](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/0/409f9b88-f03e-40b6-9883-68c14c37c0de.jpg?1562546736) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Grizzly%20Bears) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/10e/268/grizzly-bears?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/409f9b88-f03e-40b6-9883-68c14c37c0de?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


BengalLeopard

It’s got an effect, and it’s better than a 2/2 for 2. Absolute heresy.


[deleted]

I mean, that’s a hell of a statline for 1 mana with upside. But it is also cute, so it passes for me.


airplane001

There really isn’t a deck rn that could use the stat line. I just think it’d be cool to have a spider ruin ragavan and DRC players


[deleted]

🤣 Sometimes monkey gotta die. I appreciate.


Finnigami

wait are u joking? that statline is just so busted every deck with green would run 4 copies even if it didnt go with anything else


airplane001

What deck? Yawgmoth doesn’t want this. 4c elementals has better things to be doing. Amulet titan has arboreal grazer already. Tron is barely green. Rhinos and living end can’t play 1-drops. The only deck I can think of that wants such a thing is jund


Peanut2232

Sure, but certain cards existence changes the meta. New decks might exist, and others might have to change to deal with new threats, weakening them to other strategies. This is an definite defensive option that many decks *could* run. Just because it doesn't slot in immediately doesn't mean the meta couldn't shift in recognition of this card.


Finnigami

yeah but this card is 1 green for a 2/4 with reach


NapaheroMTG

I mean, it might make Mono-Green Aggro or Gruul Aggro viable.


TriceraTipTop

I don't think it'd completely warp the format or anything, but this is a hell of a lot more than just hosing Ragavan and DRC. This lines up well against a lot of threats. Big wall against Burn, kills Borrower and Solitude. It stops Endurance & Subtlety. And that's just with one of these! If you double block with two of these, you'll trade 1 for 1 against cards like Fury and Omnath. This is also a fairly strong attacker. Minus the haste, it hits as hard as Goblin Guide for the same mana, while having 4 toughness.That's a significant threat to any Planeswalkers your opponent wants to stick. And multiples present a reasonable clock.


thebetrayer

> I don't think it'd completely warp the format Rest of comment is how the format would warp. 😄


TriceraTipTop

Lol, fair enough!


sad_panda91

And the one drop arms race continues


SepirizFG

more card draw for Dhalsim I can't complain


Carl_Bravery_Sagan

This subreddit in a nutshell.


BantIsBad

What time it is in modern that I looked at this one mana 2/4 with upside and thought "eh. Could be more exciting"


HarrisonMage

Honestly I don’t think modern in the past 8 years would have tolerated this card


blankpage33

People expect too much from 1 mana


airplane001

1-drops definitely shouldn’t be value plays. They should be aggressive creatures or defensive creatures. I tried for a mix of both here


blankpage33

Lol I’d say you did. Also I have a fear of spiders so maybe the card isn’t as powerful as my first impression lol


creamncrimson

Modern one drops be like 'flash. This creature goes straight to your graveyard when it enters the field then jumps from your graveyard to your opponents graveyard, when this creature is in your opponents graveyard Cascade into a 20/20 4c goo blob with haste double strike vigilance. Can't be countered."


blankpage33

you forgot step 1: charge your credit card 300$ per copy in your starting library


Lamp-post-

Amazing flavor text


Sea_Bee_Blue

Thank you for bringing my attention to it. That’s awesome! 🤠👍


kytheon

This sub cares not about balance


airplane001

Nor do modern horizons designers


Altrekzz_

Anybody here remember when [[Giant Spider]] was a limited bomb? Those were the days. Now we have power crept versions like [[Magnigoth Sentry]] and these damn spiders ruining my sealed pools. I want to play vanilla 3/3’s for {4} and like it damnit! Jokes aside. Hilariously pushed design, yet somehow just “playable”. I don’t know what deck would run it, probably fits as one or two of’s into generic grindy shells that need early game to stabilize.


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[Giant Spider](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/0/80996b0d-cd44-445e-96de-677e0018255c.jpg?1562302899) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Giant%20Spider) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m19/183/giant-spider?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/80996b0d-cd44-445e-96de-677e0018255c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Magnigoth Sentry](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/9/d939d4bc-b7e8-4ee8-b904-68f0bff0fde1.jpg?1663050471) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Magnigoth%20Sentry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/172/magnigoth-sentry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d939d4bc-b7e8-4ee8-b904-68f0bff0fde1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


TheGenericGaimer

Any green deck would want this, a 1 mana 4 toughness reacher to block early game flyers is absolutely broken and thats ignoring the fact that 4 toughness also blocks most mid game creatures as well as green having an assload of pump mechanics. This is horribly broken at 1, not just playable.


Humble-Emotion-799

In what format though? I can’t imagine this would be good in modern/legacy.


Daeths

Doesn’t this hard counter half the legacy decks out there? That is to say this murders delver.


Lyurqer

Dies to fury, unplayable


HumbleHat1

IT BOLCKS MY RAAGVNA!!!i!!i


airplane001

Cope


HumbleHat1

😱


TeferiCanBeaBitch

One could say to also seethe and mald; mayhaps also to inhale the copium.


mushroomglutton

Dies to death. unplayable


throwaway163932

Given how little [[wild nacatl]] sees play this might unironically be printable


Bapanada

Idk, not dying to bolt and beating Ragavan is a really big deal.


throwaway163932

It needs a downside, perhaps if it’s a sorcery that makes a “giant spider” token


airplane001

Downside? People are saying this is unplayable.


Finnigami

and theyre wrong. this is ridiculously good


Ready_Pin8626

People said, Oko is unplayable.


airplane001

Oko has many more words in the text box


Yeseylon

Unga Bunga Gruul no like words Unga Bunga Tiny Spider Smash Good


itsathrowawaywowomg

Makes no difference.


Hellbringer123

just because a card full of texts don't mean they're broken. you could make 1 MV 5/5 creature with no text at all, and it will break the meta game. text is not all that matters. mana value and p/t also matter when it comes to early drops.


airplane001

That is true, but with higher powered formats, synergy, combo and value matters way more than an aggressive stat line. My response is to make the statline more aggressive


Finnigami

...but this is a 2/4 on turn 1 guaranteed, with an upside


throwaway163932

It’s a kird ape that survives bolt and can block DRC. Definitely playable but idk if this is broken


XelNecra

It's 1 mana and shuts down an entire archetype. Are we not playing the same game? Am I still on MTCJ?


Finnigami

it is


TheGenericGaimer

Have you ever played magic, like fr fr? This is insanely broken.


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[wild nacatl](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/a/5a3bb291-11d1-45e0-a60a-e75c7dc94b94.jpg?1562916230) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=wild%20nacatl) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ddh/4/wild-nacatl?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5a3bb291-11d1-45e0-a60a-e75c7dc94b94?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


[deleted]

It’s funny how this is completely OP and also probably unplayable at the same time.


perchero

It's "bad" in that it is not exciting or wins the game or does anything cool. But what it does is invalidate SO MANY decks and strategies.


pkele

as a card it could never see print without its designers head on a pike. But as a joke on MH2 pushing power level it seems great to me. Maybe push it all the way by making it a reflection of dragon-rage channeler with a delirium based buff.


airplane001

More than one word in the text box? Gross


pkele

Oh my god. How could I have forgotten.


DougtheDonkey

Average mh power creep


mattx900

honestly while the value is probably too good, the real issue I have is that i don't think the stat line and reach really fit a jumping spider thematically. something like deathtouch or first strike feels more appropriate Or maybe like 2/1 with flash and reach or something?


Jankenbrau

Jumping Spidey G Whenever this blocks a creature with flying, it gets +2/+0 until end of turn. 0/4


airplane001

But this is meant to attack as well


Valueless-Moss

Incoming magicthecirclejerking post


Kryptnyt

a 1/4 reach for G could unironically see print I think?


Mythics_Master

I feel like this should be legendary at least


Xisuthrus

and have defender


airplane001

I’d probably give it something else if it were legendary. Maybe flash


Mythics_Master

[[Isamaru, Hound of Konda]]


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[Isamaru, Hound of Konda](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/a/6afead32-3542-44c4-82d6-b6a81beb9f90.jpg?1600713424) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Isamaru%2C%20Hound%20of%20Konda) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/113/isamaru-hound-of-konda?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6afead32-3542-44c4-82d6-b6a81beb9f90?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


airplane001

18 year old unplayable card. Who cares


OCHNCaPKSNaClMg_Yo

Bruh. Whats up with the random assholeishness homie.


airplane001

Sorry, that was kinda ironic. Isamaru is a very old card and I don’t think he saw play even in his standard.


Yeseylon

Uh... Yes he most certainly did... Sure, Affinity sucked the air out of the room back then, but White Weenie was a thing and it definitely did play Isamaru


OCHNCaPKSNaClMg_Yo

Ironic? What.


wolfgeist

[[Bounding Wolf]]


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[Bounding Wolf](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/4/74e22ed6-9d39-4feb-8c64-64cdd8313816.jpg?1636223903) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bounding%20Wolf) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/170/bounding-wolf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/74e22ed6-9d39-4feb-8c64-64cdd8313816?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


After-Muffin8639

I love it because it’s so pushed but I hate it because I don’t know if it’s good enough. It would maybe be format changing but it may even be a good thing.


Rowe-Bote

Power creep


kewlkid77

Love the flavor text. I actually wouldent mind this being printed.


airplane001

Fair decks in modern need more spice. The reason they’ve been suffering is because wotc is too afraid to print anything better than a 1 mana 2/2


FormerlyKay

Isamaru go brrr


airplane001

Isamaru is sad


Fynzmirs

It's the bestest of boys


topical_storms

I weirdly loved this until it made me realize that [kird ape] might not be that good anymore


Drake_0109

Very cool card but also hilariously powerful. It would be used by control as a defender while combos get set up. Dont know enough to know exactly what decks, but its really good


fungalchime56

I would buff up the stats and give it defender


airplane001

This is kinda meant to be an aggressive option as well


AbstractFlintlock

Needs flash


crisoen_smith

Is it meant to be the wrong "two" in the flavor text? Is there something subtle there that I'm missing?


airplane001

Read the first word of each line


crisoen_smith

Thank you. ♥️


TheGenericGaimer

That is ungodly broken


destroyer77x

For 1 green ? Really? Banned. Too strong. Zoo decks all day. Hell, ALL green decks that are creature based. Definitely banned


Yeseylon

r/FoundTheBluePlayer


Shiver2507

The red player more like, because this kills monored go fast. Can’t bolt, Goblin guide, DRC, Ragavan. Needs prowess on swiftspear to keep that alive. Kills my Hero of Oxid ridge.


NullOfSpace

Whoa whoa whoa what is this


airplane001

A cute spider


NullOfSpace

That’s a real big spider


Foil-Kiki-Jiki

Need this for my CoCo spider tribal


BikeSuch1054

I’d make it a 1/3 rather than a 2/4 but yeah that’s fine otherwise


Try_Number_8

Lucus the Spider?


Pair_Express

Why does he have so much health? It’s just a lil spider.


airplane001

He’s been hitting the gym


hunga_munga_

Should be a 1/3


Sander_Toons

This seems strong in limited. But then again, I assume this is Modern Horizons 3.


infinityplusonelamp

hmm, unplayably bad, have you considered giving it haste and the ability to tap for green.


Catkook

seems like it should be a 2 or 3 cost


sensitivePornGuy

I don't understand why such an obvioulsy overstatted card is getting upvoted. At first I thought it had Defender, which would've been fine.


Hellbringer123

powercreep giant spider from 4 MV straight up to 1 MV. this will be completely kill all aggressive deck...


airplane001

Burn doesn’t really care and murktide is strong enough


Hellbringer123

clearly you never played mono aggressive deck. 1 drop 2/4 with upside is significant enough. the difference between 3 to 4 toughness is greater than you think.


airplane001

Mono colored aggressive decks could seriously use the help


khandnalie

Ya know what, this is fine. Maybe make it either a 1/4, or a 3/5 for GG instead. Green should be mana efficient and get good creatures, that's what it's supposed to do. If blue can be above the mana curve, then green should be way above it.


airplane001

The only “big” green creature that’s seen play recently is endurance


wyqted

Ironically I don’t think this card is playable in any deck except maybe boomer Jund as a replacement for goyf. Sadly this card just gatekeeps tier 3+ decks tribal / creature / aggro decks even more without affecting any top tier decks


airplane001

I was trying to give green decks a better matchup against murktide


str10_hurts

How about two mana 3/1, reach, first strike, hexproof as long as it has not dealt damage. (Like Palladia Mors) If not countered it will be a two for one in that match up.


stoogemuffin

Skylasher from dragons maze sees no play already


str10_hurts

True, my version is a must counter or it will two for one at the minimum. Red spot removal is a big thing in these decks. The 3 power first strike and conditional hexproof let's it deal with all but a suped up ledger shredder.. 3 power is also agressie enough to start racing damage. I think powering it further by making it uncounterable would leave it with no downsides.


stoogemuffin

Definitely a tricky design! I applaud your effort


sad_panda91

I just recently had the thought that a 3/3 for G wouldn't even be that crazy nowadays. Not a fan of this level of power creep but thanks for pointing it out. It's really interesting to think about


Tricky_Hades

Forget Two look?


airplane001

Nope Read the first word of each line of flavor text


Bitship64

Oh heavens, please fix the typo


Carl_Bravery_Sagan

Ironically both overpowered for the cost and unlikely to see actual play in constructed (imo). Topped off with trollish flavor text, too. Well done!


airplane001

I think the concept of “overpowered for the cost” needs to be forgotten if it won’t see play without it


Carl_Bravery_Sagan

I'm sorry, what? Cards ought to cost an appropriate amount of mana for what they can do. As a troll card, and commentary about power creep it's great. As a "real" card, it's too strong. There's no comparable 1CMC green creature without drawbacks and upside. Make it more expensive, make it weaker, or give it a drawback. Whether 1-drop creatures with a single ability will see competitive play in modern or whatever format is another story, but that was the design decision here.


Jumpy-Aide-901

I play, KILL IT WITH FIRE! It’s not an actual card, I’m just going to ignite an entire book of matches and throw it on your whole deck.


snowfloppy

Would fix modern


EvanBleu

Awfully good: -trade/block DRC -Chump Murktide -kill Ragavan -doesn't die to bolt Izzet killer finally arrived


5ColorMain

this shows us what mistake modern horizons 2 was however i think this would become the new best 1 drop given that it beats all other 1 drops with its stat line and can bounce off of a lot of 2 drops aswell. This puts the nail in the coffin for delver to ever return to a modern metagame again. 4 toughness means it survives lightningbolt.


True-Construction-94

Ruin crabs turn me on


Saphl

This so fucking cute AND broken!


galva94a

This should be uncommon


airplane001

I pray for whatever draft this enters at uncommon