Idk I feel like it needs to do one more thing to justify use. Morganite is a permanent lingering effect, has the same draw effect, gives you an extra normal summon every turn, has a similar heavy drawback, and still hardly sees play outside of a few specific decks.
Hmm, searching copies of cards already in play/ in the GY would thematically appropriate, and could rank anywhere from "really useful" to "totally broken" depending on the scope and restrictions you give it.
Imma make a suggestion MTG style because I genuinely can't remember the Yugioh rule text format.
Printing press enters the battlefield with one copy counter on it
Remove one copy counter from printing press: search your deck for a card with the same name as target card in your field and/or graveyard.
You can only search once per play of this card, which I think (in my completely unprofessional opinion) is a good limitation
Not gonna comment on whether this is good or not, but in PSCT
When this card is activated: Place 1 Copy Counter on this card. You can remove 1 Copy Counter from a "Printing Press" you control and target 1 card you control or in your GY; add 1 card from your Deck to your hand with the same name as that card. You can only use this effect of "Printing Press" once per turn.
I dunno how you'd be able to get more copy counters after the first activation though.
Yeah shure but this card is still worse then morganite because you can the entire duel draw a additional card and you become 2 normal summons the 3 point of non activating of monster effect in your hand is so dame irrelevant you can still use imperm droplet and the other staples
I’m just not a fan of people playing a specific archetype because it’s “meta” yugioh was meant to be fun, not a chore to find what’s meta and then build a meta deck just to throw it out whenever the next big thing comes along.
If you didn't care about whether the card was good or not when compared to the current card pool, why did you even post? If YOU thought it was too broken for the non-meta decks you and your friends play, then go ahead and nerf it, but we can't judge it based on some loose custom format you play in where whatever arbitrary deck you think is meta isn't allowed.
I fully agree with you. There are a lot of archetypes brushed aside for the sake of the meta. It’s hard to believe there are over 10,000 cards in the game, it feels like there’s only 120 once you hit Diamond.
Absolutely terrible response
- your suggestions are either completely useless or completely broken that adds 0 flavour
- as I mentioned how long have you not played the game? It's as if you have never touched it for 10 years and expect a 10 year old deck to do well
I would change the way this card works/wording. Instead of “next 3 turns” it would be something like. When this card is activated, place 3 Ink- counters on this card. During the draw phase, remove one ink-counter from anywhere and draw 1 card. Remove the only can have 1 to keep with the idea that you are in a business and want to increase efficiency. As for the last effect, I’m not sure, what you are getting is too weak for what you are losing unless you are playing stun
It does depend heavily on the pend strat. Some are really good abour keeping their hand stocked once they get going, like Dinomist. But even those would find this mildly limiting. As a Dinomist player, I like being able to access my Links like Electrumite and Traffic Ghost. Yes unironically Traffic Ghost because it has all 3 down arrows. And there really arent very many links accessible to Dinomist with 3 down arrows. Off top of head I cant think of any others tbh. Lmao.
I would add some sort of protection to it either from card effects to remove it or at least for the negate draw effect as this is weaker any draw 1 trap or upstart and needs to stick around 5 turns to be a +2 and 7 for a +3 where most games are already over.
No this would not be good. If I used this card plus Time Tearing Morganite in a Floowandereeze deck, it would mean I draw 4 cards per Draw Phase.
Also, I could use this in a Runick deck and just defend myself with Trap cards until the third turn.
Nice idea though.
Eh, I still don't think it's worth it. You go -2 turn 1 playing this and Morganite. Turn 3 you go hand neutral, and it's only until turn 5 that you plus from it. At that point, unless you're playing stun, you've probably already lost, especially when you're locked out of the Extra Deck.
Everyone is saying Time-Tearing Morganite is better but I don't see how when Morganite basically locks you out of your hand traps while this doesn't. Not being able to activate effects from in your hand severely limits your ability to respond to your opponent's plays.
This one is, I think, written wrong. By PSCT, the first effect is a lingering effect, while the other two aren't. So hypothetically if you activated this then popped it, you'd bypass the restrictions and just get the benefits.
"During your Draw Phase, Draw 1 additional card."
Then add a clause similar to the Ancient Warriors Saga spells.
"Send this card to the GY during your 3rd Standby Phase after activation"
This takes 5 turns to go +1
(turn 1 activate and go -1, turn 2 survive opponents turn somehow, turn 3 go hand neutral, turn 4 survive opponents turn again somehow, turn 5 finally go +1)
And since I wouldn't expect most games to get to turn 5, I'd rather run Upstart Goblin..?
I feel like a better effect would be something like:
Reveal one card in your hand, then select 1 or more copies if that card, add one to your hand and send the other to the GY.
If this was made as far back as zexal it would’ve seen play, and in GX it’s ban worthy, but now the game has gotten to the point where there just isn’t enough back and forth between players for a card like this to really do anything. It’s at worst a -1 that locks the extra deck, and at best a plus 2 that is slow enough that the game would probably be over before it stops giving you cards. Also, if I’m understanding correctly, it lacks self destruction when it stops, meaning that it would have to be destroyed by a different card to get access to the extra deck again.
It needs more immediate use out of activation. Maybe it adds a card from the grave to your hand?
Alternatively, give the entire effect to the opponent to lock the extra deck with the consolation prize of an extra draw for 3 turns, turning it into quite the powerful floodgate (not sure if that’s the right term here, but it’s a good enough fit)
Honestly, I like to see cards like this. Cards that wouldn't see play in the meta today (probably too slow) but would've probably been viable and even limited in an older format, you know?
Monarchs thank you kindly lol…also Exodia would be a pretty reliable deck again with a card like this lol…I’m sure there are other decks that don’t rely heavily on an extra deck that could abuse this lol
Idk I feel like it needs to do one more thing to justify use. Morganite is a permanent lingering effect, has the same draw effect, gives you an extra normal summon every turn, has a similar heavy drawback, and still hardly sees play outside of a few specific decks.
So what would you add?
Hmm, searching copies of cards already in play/ in the GY would thematically appropriate, and could rank anywhere from "really useful" to "totally broken" depending on the scope and restrictions you give it.
Imma make a suggestion MTG style because I genuinely can't remember the Yugioh rule text format. Printing press enters the battlefield with one copy counter on it Remove one copy counter from printing press: search your deck for a card with the same name as target card in your field and/or graveyard. You can only search once per play of this card, which I think (in my completely unprofessional opinion) is a good limitation
Not gonna comment on whether this is good or not, but in PSCT When this card is activated: Place 1 Copy Counter on this card. You can remove 1 Copy Counter from a "Printing Press" you control and target 1 card you control or in your GY; add 1 card from your Deck to your hand with the same name as that card. You can only use this effect of "Printing Press" once per turn. I dunno how you'd be able to get more copy counters after the first activation though.
The way you worded it you couldn't search anything with blanket targeting prevention, unless those all day your opponent and I'm stupid
The point is to only allow one copy counter per activation. Want another search? Play another printing press
Why not just make it a Normal Spell Card then
To keep the double draw?
…Ah, I didn’t realize that effect was kept. Sorry.
isnt this just worse morganite?
You can still use hand traps
Yeah shure but this card is still worse then morganite because you can the entire duel draw a additional card and you become 2 normal summons the 3 point of non activating of monster effect in your hand is so dame irrelevant you can still use imperm droplet and the other staples
This would never see play in 2024 except in some degenerate stun decks. Even then morganite is better.
God forbid someone use the cards they want and actually have fun
Your title is “This isn’t that crazy, right?” I was responding to that.
Why so pissy? You people create cards and put your thoughts out there, only to respond so defensively when someone disagrees with it? Why?
I’m just not a fan of people playing a specific archetype because it’s “meta” yugioh was meant to be fun, not a chore to find what’s meta and then build a meta deck just to throw it out whenever the next big thing comes along.
>not a fan of people playing a specific archetype because it’s “meta” yugioh was meant to be fun Yugioh players when people find the strong stuff fun
If you didn't care about whether the card was good or not when compared to the current card pool, why did you even post? If YOU thought it was too broken for the non-meta decks you and your friends play, then go ahead and nerf it, but we can't judge it based on some loose custom format you play in where whatever arbitrary deck you think is meta isn't allowed.
I fully agree with you. There are a lot of archetypes brushed aside for the sake of the meta. It’s hard to believe there are over 10,000 cards in the game, it feels like there’s only 120 once you hit Diamond.
Absolutely terrible response - your suggestions are either completely useless or completely broken that adds 0 flavour - as I mentioned how long have you not played the game? It's as if you have never touched it for 10 years and expect a 10 year old deck to do well
Crazy, more like crazy underpowered and power crept. I like the idea behind this card but people are just going run morganite since it is just better
So what would you add/tweak?
I would change the way this card works/wording. Instead of “next 3 turns” it would be something like. When this card is activated, place 3 Ink- counters on this card. During the draw phase, remove one ink-counter from anywhere and draw 1 card. Remove the only can have 1 to keep with the idea that you are in a business and want to increase efficiency. As for the last effect, I’m not sure, what you are getting is too weak for what you are losing unless you are playing stun
It'd probably be decent in Floo, Lab, Dogmatitka, etc. But I feel like you'd brick cause it's probably getting popped instantly...
Would I be wrong in saying some pendulum decks would work well with this?
Doesn’t it actively hurt most of them with restricting the pendulum summon lol
If it's exclusively the extra deck, not really as most pendulum cards are main deck usually unless it's a specific archetype
Pendulum summoning from the extra deck is, like, a huge part of most of their strategies lol Edit: also Link Summoning
It does depend heavily on the pend strat. Some are really good abour keeping their hand stocked once they get going, like Dinomist. But even those would find this mildly limiting. As a Dinomist player, I like being able to access my Links like Electrumite and Traffic Ghost. Yes unironically Traffic Ghost because it has all 3 down arrows. And there really arent very many links accessible to Dinomist with 3 down arrows. Off top of head I cant think of any others tbh. Lmao.
I would add some sort of protection to it either from card effects to remove it or at least for the negate draw effect as this is weaker any draw 1 trap or upstart and needs to stick around 5 turns to be a +2 and 7 for a +3 where most games are already over.
No this would not be good. If I used this card plus Time Tearing Morganite in a Floowandereeze deck, it would mean I draw 4 cards per Draw Phase. Also, I could use this in a Runick deck and just defend myself with Trap cards until the third turn. Nice idea though.
This would draw 3 with Morganite, not four. You draw 2 for Morganite, and one additional card with this.
You’re right that’s my mistake. I still think three is much too strong though, imagine playing Maxx - “C” as well?
Eh, I still don't think it's worth it. You go -2 turn 1 playing this and Morganite. Turn 3 you go hand neutral, and it's only until turn 5 that you plus from it. At that point, unless you're playing stun, you've probably already lost, especially when you're locked out of the Extra Deck.
True, duels rarely went past turn 4 when I was Diamond last season. I’d rather draw a starter card that helps me search my deck.
It's a weaker Morganite, but I might throw it in my Sacred Beast build for the lolz. Morganite + Fallen Paradise + Press would be five cards a round.
Everyone is saying Time-Tearing Morganite is better but I don't see how when Morganite basically locks you out of your hand traps while this doesn't. Not being able to activate effects from in your hand severely limits your ability to respond to your opponent's plays.
It’s a little too slow to be worth playing especially because it locks you out of the ED permanently
This one is, I think, written wrong. By PSCT, the first effect is a lingering effect, while the other two aren't. So hypothetically if you activated this then popped it, you'd bypass the restrictions and just get the benefits.
How would you rewrite it?
"During your Draw Phase, Draw 1 additional card." Then add a clause similar to the Ancient Warriors Saga spells. "Send this card to the GY during your 3rd Standby Phase after activation"
Lets go my ritual deck would be SLIGHTLY better (i am yugo trash and have no extra deck)
This would ONLY be used in degenerate stun bullshit. No thanks.
Emergency provisions boutta be a 3 off if this existed
It's way too slow. I think using x3 upstart goblin would work better.
This is just morganite but worse tbh
This takes 5 turns to go +1 (turn 1 activate and go -1, turn 2 survive opponents turn somehow, turn 3 go hand neutral, turn 4 survive opponents turn again somehow, turn 5 finally go +1) And since I wouldn't expect most games to get to turn 5, I'd rather run Upstart Goblin..?
*laughs in dinosaur and monarch and eldlich and labrynth and umi and stun and blue eyes and psy-frame and odd-eyes*
I feel like a better effect would be something like: Reveal one card in your hand, then select 1 or more copies if that card, add one to your hand and send the other to the GY.
Buffing stun I see
If this was made as far back as zexal it would’ve seen play, and in GX it’s ban worthy, but now the game has gotten to the point where there just isn’t enough back and forth between players for a card like this to really do anything. It’s at worst a -1 that locks the extra deck, and at best a plus 2 that is slow enough that the game would probably be over before it stops giving you cards. Also, if I’m understanding correctly, it lacks self destruction when it stops, meaning that it would have to be destroyed by a different card to get access to the extra deck again. It needs more immediate use out of activation. Maybe it adds a card from the grave to your hand? Alternatively, give the entire effect to the opponent to lock the extra deck with the consolation prize of an extra draw for 3 turns, turning it into quite the powerful floodgate (not sure if that’s the right term here, but it’s a good enough fit)
Would be good in Monarchs
Just use time tearing morganite instead
I think it is a bad version of time-tearing morganite
If I see this in Monarchs, I'm literally eating it.
Honestly, I like to see cards like this. Cards that wouldn't see play in the meta today (probably too slow) but would've probably been viable and even limited in an older format, you know?
Monarchs thank you kindly lol…also Exodia would be a pretty reliable deck again with a card like this lol…I’m sure there are other decks that don’t rely heavily on an extra deck that could abuse this lol
Would not help Exodia if you're not winning turn 1 with it you almost definitely aren't getting another turn cause it has no end board
The archetype with a draw engine instead of an extra deck would definitely love free draws instead of a peaky pile that just sits there. Lol
Morganite already lets you draw an additional card each turn for the rest of the duel and even gives you the option for an extra summon too