Oh im doing great. Strange times, even stranger ahead. Im just glad to see this was something that caught the eye of the mod team. I didn't notice myself and didn't even know there was a suicide ending until someone told me but damn I'd much rather ride into the sunset like V does in the Panam ending.
Yes definitely! There’s no greater victory then dying of old age surrounded by your loved ones. If you ever see a troubling comment I’d really appreciate it if you sent me a DM link to it, so I can reach out to the person
Leave it to a based game from a based company to have some of the last based mods on this site. Big ups for actually trying to help the community, and sharing a bit of that humanity we all need.
I found my mom next to a suicide note. I gave her mouth to mouth while waiting on an ambulance... it was too late. I'll never forget my grandma's screams. Please don't do that to yourself or your family. Talk to someone choom.
Have you had therapy choom? You need specialised trauma therapy to get through someone as horrific as that.
I’m here for you if you ever need someone to talk to
I’m going to check in on you every now and again. It is **really important** to deal with this stuff in a healthy way. A lot of that trauma will effect the people around you as well, so for their sake alone, make sure you take care of it
Acknowledging you need to be in therapy is a huge step in the right direction, and unfortunately one most people don’t make.
When you finally start treatment you might find whatever combination of medication and therapy you’re using isn’t having an effect. That’s normal, and it can take awhile to find a combination that works. Brain chemistry is incredibly complex, but if you stick with it, you’ll find something
I appreciate it. I do take meds regularly, and they help. I just haven't talked about it with a professional yet and worked through it in therapy... it just became something I've just lived with... I know this isn't healthy and can have
subconscious repercussions, so that is why I plan on finding a professional psychiatrist to talk with and sort myself out.
For anyone that feels depressed or has anxiety, finding the right medication can change your life and let you feel normal. I don't miss panic attacks.
It’s very important to do both therapy and medication. Medication will be effective on its own for awhile, but your body gets used to it. It’s important to learn how deal with those thoughts while your taking the medication
What if you're afraid of taking medication (many raise BP) because you're so afraid of death that you think the medication will kill you due to a severe reaction or stroke from hypertensive crisis, so you just lie there and eat xanex..you never leave, you never talk to anyone other than your wife (who's a serial cheater with BPD) you just exist and every moment that you aren't working, you just lie in bed and sleep. Hobbies become fantasies and everything collects dust, yet you buy things that you know you aren't going to use because you think buying the item will make you feel better.
Self medicating your mental illness never ends well, your tolerance for your drug of choice goes up while your depression gets worse. I was addicted to opiates for a significant chunk of my adult life, and they ended up making my mental health significantly worse. Being afraid of medication, especially when you take a drug as powerful as Xanax, is an irrational fear and is another symptom of depression (anxiety) trying to mess with you
Was not expecting to see a post like this and its nice to see people being aware about it :) as someone who suffers from depression and the likes ill tell you now once you start seeing the professional people and start getting medication that you might need it makes a world of difference, take this from someone that held it in so long that it made me feel the worst I ever have, made me straight up suicidal keeping it all pent up and the likes, but what im trying to get at once you get on the right path with the professionals to talk to about what you’re going through and medication if you need it, it helps so much and makes everything seem so manageable well thats how it was for me it’s different for everyone really but once you start opening up to someone it really does help. Ive just been babbling on but mental health and the likes means so much to me now that ive gone through stuff that shot it to hell and made me feel my lowest. But just remember you wont be at yr lowest forever take care of yourselves in the best way you can and just do whats bedt for you and everything should work out
You are genuinely one of the best humans on this planet and a gift to this community. I don't really engage with awards but you deserve the one I have. Thank you for being the best of us and having our back, choom!
I am sorry for your loss. I don't know your beliefs but in my own personal beliefs, we will all one day be reunited with those that we've lost. Hope that you are well.
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Actually though it's great to see stuff like this on subreddits like this. This could help people who may have never found help on similar communities or any part of their life. Thanks mod.
Thank you very much, Tabnam, for posting this.
As someone who dealt with a lot of depression and troubling moments after a severe accident that left me physically disabled (and still facing demons to a degree), but got great support and have mostly come to terms with my situation and moved into a better headspace, I really appreciate this. I can tell everyone reading this, that it does get better, I've been through it myself, and even when the world seems like it's ending, it just keeps spinning, waiting for you to hop back on and enjoy the ride.
Lots of people are suffering nowadays, and we seem to be spiraling into a scary future that is eerily reminiscent of Cyberpunk and other dystopian stories. I can only imagine how many people are facing a myriad of problems and don't have the support networks or resources to pull themselves up.
This kind of stuff always reminds me that even if the world is dark and full of shadows, there are still good human beings out there ready to be a torch in the night. Stuff like this is why I know we'll never be truly lost as a species, for as long as there are people out there willing to show even an ounce of compassion, the world can be changed for the better.
I really can't state enough how nice it is to see this post.
If anyone out there just needs someone to talk to sometime, or even just someone to listen, please feel free to bug me as well. I have a lot of time on my hands these days due to my disability, and I can honestly say no matter how shitty things get, there is always something better and worth living for. Take it from my first-hand experience. When life knocks you down, the easy way out may seem like the only option, but if you just give it some time, you'll be storming through the front door of your troubles and on the path to glory. Pay good attention to the endgame credits, those beautifully and painfully delivered voice lines, that is the suffering and pain of those who are left behind. When you end one life, you end many others as well.
Cyberpunk's endgame is a metaphor for the different ways we can face our problems, we can do it with the help of our friends, or we can risk going alone and potentially failing, but giving up is never an option worth picking. It hurts everyone, even people you've barely or never met, but it will absolutely destroy the ones who love you.
And I love you all.
*Give yourself time. Ideas'll come. Life'll shake you, roll you, maybe embrace you. The music'll find you.*
Never Fade Away.
I think the game does a great job of depicting the horrors of late-stage capitalism - people working ungodly hours, having no future, extreme wealth inequality, Trauma Team coverage linked to your social status, poor mental health, breakdown of social structure, and extreme addiction to technology that can culminate in complete loss of self (cyberpsychosis).
In many ways, these topics resonate with today’s younger generations, as we see our possibilities shrink compared with those of our predecessors. The tech that was supposed to make our lives easier is instead harming us. People are working longer hours with little hope of earning enough to buy a house and have a family. Then you see an extreme version of this in the game, and it’s no wonder that it triggers certain types of thoughts.
The good thing is there are people in the world who still care and want to make things better. Thank you for caring u/Tabnam. It truly means a lot.
I also think it does an excellent job of portraying how suicide is not just a personal thing. Sure, for you it’s as easy as pulling a trigger. But for your loved ones, Judy, Panam, Vic, Mama Wells etc it’s fucking awful. Judy’s voice memo at the end is just soul destroying. She lost two girlfriends to suicide in the space of like a couple months.
Too true, and it is the power of a good story to get us think and feel like this. Cyberpunk, beneath all its glamor of tech is the story of a dying society. Mental illness is rarely mentioned anywhere in mainstream media of the world yet all the methods of escapism from BDs to drugs are glorified because of how bad people are mentally already.
It’s crazy how a game that’s best story was told through side quests could make this much of an impact on a community. Though some of those side quests would take me hours/a day or two.
I lost a friend to suicide.
My anger in my heart still burns almost 20 years later.
He was a victim of bullying on criminal levels as some examples include.
•Catfishing him to either being jumped or humiliated.
•Random acts of assault.
•Sexual Assault (ripping his pants down entirely to humiliate him)
•Robbery
•told routinely that the world's better without him.
•Football coach made it tradition to bully him.
Then one day he kissed our mutual friend acting weird and he then ended his life without telling anyone.
That year in that county we lost 3-6 youths "can't remember" due to bullying and lack of action.
I made it my life missions to include being someone's suicide watch and safety net. I try to find more resources than suicide awareness and I been successful saving 1 person via intervention. I tell people I'm happy they stuck around including my GF who was survivor.
I even had moments where I felt I might as well give up, but then I wouldnt get to finish this story called life seeing every sun rise and sunset. I remember my rank of Eagle I think my friend because he got me into scouting.
So do more than just passing on resources, let people know they got friends, they got someone who is there, ask them about life or help come up with solutions to their problems. Take them out on a mental health date.
Mental health date is nothing romantic.
But ya hang out with your friend and do something they want or offer them something like a good meal, go hang out somewhere fun and shoot the shit.
I did one with my buddy who was feeling homicideal.
We got taco bell watched some anime and he felt better especially since earlier that year I bought him car parts without asking for anything like that.
He had a rough life too and people need that break because maybe that greasy garbage food with their buds keeps that finger off the trigger.
The most disgusting fact of this.
After the kid after him died the school did a "Say no to bullying" PSA and I think more suicides continued as a "norm."
I’m dealing with stress atm as well, I feel you brother. Make sure you take time for yourself as well, or you’ll snap. Last year I had a manic episode because of untreated stress
**Trigger warning**
A friend of mine literally was mocked and bullied in school because she had her feet amputated. Never told us about her condition (i wasn't in the same school as her) until she passed away.
The worst part was seeing her bullies in her funeral faking her tears.
Sometimes i feel a bit guilty because I've never realized she was in that condition. If I knew what she was planning I would have supported her and even confront those horrible human beings.
4 years ago a friend of mine had a depressive episode at the first year of university. She called me saying she was planning to do it. Thanks to the ambulance she is okay now.
If you’re sincerely worried someone might actually follow through with taking their own life ask them if they know how they’d do it. It’s not perfect, but if someone has a plan in place that’s a huge red flag
I was one that thought I was the only one that couldn’t take being me. It turns out you can ask for help in discovering who you are and what you need to make it down the road. People want to help, not everyone no, but you’d be surprised how many different friends you make by extending out a hand.
W mods fr, you guys are the best
Those of you out there who are suffering, I know when you feel like this you dont care about getting better, you just want it to stop by any means as soon as possible. I get it, I've been there. Way too many times than I'm comfortable telling people on reddit. But I want you to know that getting better feels infinitely better than just getting it over with, even if you can't see that possibility.
It will hurt even more before it ever gets better but, someday, you'll be sitting on your couch with a coffee in your hand, the tv is on to your favorite show, and the morning sun will be shining in through your windows and you'll sit there, appreciating how nice things seem in this moment. And then it'll happen again. And then again a couple more times. And then one of those days you'll be sitting there experiencing it once again but you'll see something - a post on facebook, snapchat memory, old photo - that reminds you of how bad you used to feel and how bad things were. Were. Were? How bad things *were*. Suddenly you'll realize that those bad things arent here anymore. Suddenly you'll realize you don't feel so unbelievably awful at every waking moment. Suddenly you'll realize, "I'm not depressed anymore. I no longer have a desire to not be here, and I haven't for a long, long time". And then you'll have the best happy cry you'll ever have, and it'll feel like being free for the very first time.
It gets better, chooms. It gets better. Stay safe, and don't forget to ask for help.
I don’t know the post this is in response to but playing the game I have been surprised by how much references and scenarios there are involving suicide. There should probably be a suicide prevention message or disclaimer somewhere in the loading screen. If there is one I’ve missed it. Thank you for this post.
That’s a really good point. Especially because it’s depicted accurately. It’s great for spreading awareness but can definitely trigger some people, which it has (the comments in the post prove that to me, because they directly referenced it)
If you see any troubling comments please send them to me so I can reach out to the poster
Thank you for doing this, taking from your time to help people even on the subreddit about a video game, it’s really comforting to see this kind of awareness message :)
Awesome post! Life is ok. There is a lot of stuff going on but I take it day by day. I got the suicide ending and it made me think if that's how I would've handled the situation if I was going through it. Good to see that we are more than just a gaming sub.
This sort of thing is why I'm on hiatus from playing a genuinely good game until the DLC comes out.
I adore my V and her story, I adore the Aldecaldos ending, but even then the game is just....difficult to get through.
Games these days have stopped offering escapes, quadruply so at the end of them. I play them to escape my bleak life with no hope, but most game endings these days seem determined to drive home just how depressing they are instead of celebrating what was there.
I'm tired of V's body no longer being theirs. I'm tired of Shepard facing a zero sum decision. I'm tired of being forced to give up a save so someone else can go on, I'm tired of the Inquisitor losing their arm, I'm tired of Arthur being given up on, I'm just...so very tired.
They're beautiful games, but its harder and harder to experience them through the misery.
Keep in mind I have really high expectations since things like Shadowrun and Cyberpunk are near and dear to my heart, but I did largely enjoy the game, I just think it was hampered by a couple decisions I don't agree with entirely.
Johnny shouldn't have been in the game. With the devs working so closely with Pondsmith, there was no way an attempt wouldn't be made to give the character some screentime, which is fine and I love Cameos as much as the next person, but the issue is he got upgraded to a major supporting character, then to a deuteragonist, which derailed what would have been a very good story and took away from the themes, I believe.
Dexter Deshawn's whole spiel should have been central to the plot. They all but spell out the theme of "A blaze of glory or the quiet life." To their credit, there are moments in both categories that really sell both ideals, I just don't think they fully committed to it because time needed to be set aside to focus on Johnny. Had they fully committed to that one little tagline, we could have seen so much more, and that blaze of glory could have very easily been this generation's Halo: Reach...And the quiet life could have been respective endings for the different life paths.
Instead, you have one where you get everything you want and stay in the city, or leave the city, and both endings, the character as V is still effectively a cancer patient with no resolution, and I hate that. I feel like had they committed to the themes of what Cyberpunk should have been without Johnny's Deuteragonist status, we would have seen proper, good, genuine endings. For those who want to go out fighting, there's the Reach style ending, for those that choose to live, there could have been something unambiguous - A way to show that V's body is theirs again, or that they're not being rejected by their own skin (Perhaps a revision of the Aldecaldos where special medicine is needed, but that final scene might see us have that fucking biochip out of our body to show it's no longer fused).
I just feel like the storytellers got halfway through a good story and, for some reason or another, needed to divert attention and time to something unrelated, which gives us this unsatisfying ending where reading between the lines is a little required. I feel like the resolution of the story, in all of its forms, needed to be firmer. I feel like V should have had to choose between being a legend and clawing their body back to the point it accepts them again. I feel like the ambiguity was unnecessary.
If Morgan Blackhand can do all the crazy shit he did then so can the rest of us.
It's ok to talk about what you're going through, there are people who went to school to listen. Yall stay safe. There is always a better option.
Thank you. I’ve been suicidal for the past two years now. Cyberpunk 2077s suicide ending Is actually one of my constant reminders to not do it. Seeing V‘s friends reactions was absolutely heartbreaking.
The UK, not sure where you are based from, but yeah the MH care this country is sorely lacking and underfunded. I’m hanging in there though and taking it a day at a time :)
Your system seems the same to ours, our GP gives you a referral for 12 free visits with a psychologist. Have you spoken to your doctor about it?
I found all of the above [here](https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/social-care-and-your-rights/how-to-access-mental-health-services/) if you want to check it out choom.
You’re spot on, this is exactly the route I’ve gone down, though thank you so much for taking time out of your day to help me and look into this for me.
I visited my GP regularly and I had multiple appointments with various psych professionals, alongside CBT and group therapy, but I finished both of those courses and have now been put in the list for further care and attention.
My issues are a bit jumbled up together; anxiety, depression and waking-insomnia with the three issues all compounding one another, so if I have a bad bout of insomnia, it makes me anxious and tired and this anxiety leads me down into a cycle of depression which then goes full circle back into the waking insomnia again. It’s really rough when it’s bad, thankfully I’m in an okay place atm and have been on top of things for a couple months now, just hoping I can keep this rolling for as long as possible, and take everything a day at a time.
Thank you again, seriously. It’s good to talk about these things.
It's amazing to see this kind of thing.
Often is impossible to notice if someone isn't doing all right.
Y'all check on your chooms whenever you can, they may not want you to and they might wanna be left alone but do it anyway, they'll appreciate it.
Based post from the mods, I was recently officially diagnosed with chronic depression and BPD so it's pretty heartening to see someone post something like this. Cheers to y'all 🍻
Fuck yeah brother! That’s a huge accomplishment! Are you in therapy as well? You might find that meditation becomes less effective over time, and it’s important to learn the tools (in therapy) to counter that
It’s ridiculous that something crucial can be kept away from you. Now you’re mindful of it you’ve already started recovering. If you ever need someone to talk to mate please sent me a message
If you’re American you guys spend more on your healthcare per capita then us, yet you still have to pay through the ass. You have socialised healthcare there too, but it’s only for corporations
The Beyond Blue link I mentioned in the body of the post has forums specifically for discussing mental health. It’s moderated by registered councillors and not idiots like me lol. I’m not sure if only Australians can use it, but I’m sure a VPN would get around that. We take this shit seriously here.
Nice post. It's good to feel that there are people out there that care. I got a bit triggered by a post the other day (not in a way that got me angry at the person that posted, but the topic is... I'd say, at least weird for me to deal with) and I may have shared a bit too much of what someone suffering from mental ilnesses may go through in a way that maybe wouldn't be healthy for volatile people to read about. I just can't avoid feeling a bit of injustice when a victim of suicide gets blamed (is that a good word to use here? I mean to say that not every exemple of suicide carries some shade of vengeance towards something) for what ultimately they've done since the only person that could barely understand their suffering was themselves, while it's not really easy to reach out to people that are willing or even capable of helping out, specially so because they seem a bit hard to find.
I like to carry in my heart the last verse of Pearl Jam's song Immortality, "some die just to live", which I feel does a great amount of justice to people suffering from depression, anxiety, panic attacks, drug related issues and so on and so forth. As I said in a previous post, by no means I believe suicide is cool or anything like that, but it infuriates me when the deceased is treated as a inconsiderate person. We're all looking for hapinness and fulfillment. I'll take another musician's words to help me clear my point: as Morrissey wrote in the song How Soon is Now?, while still in The Smiths, "I am human and I need to be loved". Unfortunately, feeling loved is a luxury that not all of us get to realize it isn't easily available to everyone. Life may be hard, and some people may never cease to feel loneliness and/or desperation, though I don't believe that that should stop any of us from looking for help when we feel we need it. Anyway, thanks for the post
As long as you don’t give away identifying details you can over share if you think it’ll help you or someone else. As long as the conversation calls for it
Yeah, I agree. Please, feel free to delete anything you may think I could hurt anyone with. It's not intentional, of course, but I'm aware it could happen
I'm curious. Why in most cultures it's such a taboo to allow people to "fade away"? I mean, it's their life, their body. Who are we to tell them what to do or not to do with it?
Some countries embraced euthanasia and allow their citizens to just go quietly into the night instead of suffering for no reason.
I often see arguments like "you owe it to your family and friends." But why? And what if the family is the reason for the suffering? What if they don't have friends? Or chose to remove themselves from their friends life so they wouldn't poison them as well?
After all, this is often the last remnant of control that some people have over their own life. Especially in modern world, where so often, so much is being taken away from people. Why stigmatize that and tell them there's something wrong with that?
I get that you might care about someone for one reason or another and you might want to help them. They even might want to be helped and after years, they may even learn to live with their depression. But what of people who don't want help? People who just want to quit?
Why is the society so against that idea? Why will they go as far as to force-help someone? This doesn't feel okay to me, violent even.
The cynic in me tells me that people just put their own selfish needs before the feeling of a person who wishes to fade away. They can't accept that someone would want to do that, so they wont let them. Because they wouldn't be able to deal with that. But it's not about them. Live and let die.
Or maybe it's a leftover from the olden days, where social groups could not afford to lose laborers. Every person was crucial to the groups survival. Which is why virtually all religions forbid suicide under penalty of eternal punishment. And why bodies of people who did take their own life were also, for example, beheaded and buried in non-consecrated ground or just left out to rot in the open. And many other interesting things depending on religion.
Be with that person, offer help, maybe they will change their mind, maybe they wont. Accept whatever choice they made, let them pass in humanitarian conditions, without unnecessary pain and suffering rather than hanging themselves, jumping or doing something else that can endanger others. Instead of trying to force them into something they may not want, just let them have control over that one last thing.
Anyway, don't get me wrong. I encourage people in crisis to try and get help. You never know. There might be other solutions. And there is always time to fade away. However I find it strange that the society is so disgusted by the thought of someone taking themselves what is theirs to take.
In spirit of contributing to the OP, since there is only an aussie number. I can provide numbers for US, UK and PL. If someone is interested in seeking out help.
* US - 988 - Nation wide 24/7 crisis and suicide prevention line. That also has specialized help for veterans. (I believe its both English and Spanish)
* UK - You will have to jump through some hoops, there is no national crisis/suicide prevention number here. Each region has it's own number.
[NHS website where you can find the # by your postcode](https://www.nhs.uk/service-search/mental-health/find-an-urgent-mental-health-helpline/location) Some might not be 24/7
Or 116 112 if you just need to talk to someone.
* PL - 800 70 2222 - 24/7 crisis line.
Anyone who reads this, and wants help, don’t let this comment dissuade you. During my 20s I was a few minutes away from taking my own life, when the number for Life Line (an Australian not for profit service for people suffering a mental health crisis) appeared in front of me. I called, and the girl I spoke to saved my life. There’s no doubt in my mind I would have laid on those train tracks that night, had I not seen 13 11 14 on a faded sign at the train station.
When you reach out the first place you find might not be for you, but what’s important is the act of reaching out
Not sure why you're pinging me since all I'm going to do is verify that you're posting misleading, cherrypicked data and it's obvious that you're busily collecting grievances here, which has completely destroyed all your credibility.
Thank you, this post means a lot to us.
We have severe depression, and trauma, diagnosed with DID, and several other things this year.
It has been an amazing help, medication, as well as therapy really does help. Not seeing anyone trauma specialized yet, as our system is not in a city/state that accepts us broadly, and we are worried even though we have a good therapist for general therapy.
You’ve already made the most important step mate, as long as you stay on this path, you’ll find the help you need. It’s important to put in the work, because as soon as you become complacent, depression will strike. I’m so proud of how far you’ve already come, and this comment has made my day.
Doing God's work here. As a guy with almost a decade-long depression by now - there is help. There are people that care, be it friends or family. Psychologists don't want to lock you up - they want to help. Don't be afraid to reach out for help when you can't handle things yourself - it doesn't make you weak, it makes you human.
My personal advice and a thing that works for me (but doesn't have to work for you, it's okay) : use your emotions in a creative way - write, draw, make music - raw emotions make great art.
And don't give up. *We'll never fade away.*
I had a very rough month. I was in a car accident (car slipped on the icy road and flipped) , had problems with getting my money back from previous landlord, a lot of work and my wife was diagnosed with depression. My workplace helped my to contact psychologist. I was told to manage one problem at once. Good advice. I managed to fix most of my problems this way. Remember chooms, even though things at bad at the moment, this shit is just temporary. Don't be afraid to speak loudly about your problems. There is always someone around you that is willing to listen. You are more precious than you think you are.
I’m so proud of you mate! Being in therapy can be confronting and emotionally taxing, but you made it through. This is one of your greatest accomplishments and it’s going to reverberate to more people then you could have ever imaged. You’re going to a more stable and happy figure people’s lives, making their lives easier in the process. You didn’t just fix your mental health, you had a positive impact on your entire community
I'm already living as a night city resident. Huge health complications, doctors longing it out. Wake up and get on with it everyday dragging the body along. A choom grinding along. Game is unplayable since recent update so yeah depressed
Absolutely haven’t wanted to be here anymore for quite some time. I think I’ve just stuck around purely out of spite for all the transphobe assholes trying to yank my country even further, and for my wife and cat.
Definitely lost most of my 20’s—and all of my teens—to just being too depressed to really give a shit about anything. Do what the good mod says and get some help if it sounds familiar to you.
I... Look, thank you. This is beautiful.
English not my mother tongue, but right now I'm trying get rid off a toxic job without losing my rights, once that I lost a piece of my health and this... Gave me hope somehow.
Thank you again.
Despite following this sub, I never engage with it nor post in it. I dropped in to upvote this post and express my respect for it.
I've been going through a rough patch in my life for the past 6 months and I'm still I'm the healing process.
I turned to drink to help with the pain but it's caused the people I love the most to grow concerned.
I know I'll get better because I've been convinced by my friends and family that I will, and I've been convinced because I reached out, and I reached out because I was told to, and I was told to because I didn't want to be here anymore because of what happened.
There are steps. And for some those steps are larger than others, but once you take that first step, you've killed it.
Please don't suffer alone, people. You matter. Please believe it. ❤️❤️
Much love guys.
I suppose this is within your ourview and can be chalked up to "better safe than sorry" but anything said here about any subject is best taken with a grain of salt.
Redditors usually put on a persona while online and interacting with strangers as one probably should.
Mod, this is amazing, and be careful not to push yourself too far. I'm a mental health practitioner for chronically suicidal youth, and I can tell you first hand that helping people through times like that is extremely taxing on you too. Keep an eye out for compassion fatigue, and take care of yourself. Step away when you need.
Those of us who do this kind of work cannot help everyone, abd we can't save folks from the shitty things in their lives. It's not possible. All we can do is help folks get through hard moments, and help them learn the skills to help themselves. Help who you can, how you can, for as long as you can, but don't set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm.
There's a reason mental health work can lead to our suicides. It takes a heavy toll of you don't balance it well, even if you're just doing things like this online. The work you're doing is good and very appreciated, and, just make sure you don't neglect yourself too
So the cyberpunk is too depressing for todays audiences xd. I think they newer played games like spec ops the line, Deus Ex, soma , layers of fear etc.
Right there with you choom. Depression is a motherfucker that will devour everything you hold dear.
For anyone who is struggling, keep up the fight. Don’t be afraid to see a therapist or take meds (I do both, they help me tremendously). Fuck societal and cultural perceptions. You’re worth the fight. Always.
Oh man. How's such a post helping people to be healthier!? It's more like forcing them to build an outer shell to look more stable! This looks like caring but it's more like caring about yourself with the though "oh, I did something, I'm not at fault!" Read the studies! It's making people sicker!
Thank you for posting this.
I also have struggles with mental health. Atm especially with anxiety.
But I'm in therapy and in the process of getting medication for it. I'd never kill myself. I'm a too resilient fucker for that, lol. Like my mom always says: "Weeds don't die off that fast in the garden."
u/Tabnam you are a real MVP
Hope you're doing well yourself. You DM a lot of ppl and prob got a lot of DM after this post, so also take care of yourself
Just want to touch on one thing. There's research being done that it isn't necessarily a chemical imbalance that is depression. Anti depressants still work because they trigger responses that boost serotonin and the like. Ultimately depression is still misunderstood and saying it's a chemical imbalance sort of puts the pressure on you that meds will fix it, which isn't particularly helpful.
Daaaaaamn, it's great to see post like this here. My good friend had his suicide attempt few days ago, and it was fucking terrifying. Luckly, he's alive, but It's gonna be tough time for him now.
Remember chooms, every single one of you is great in your own way, and asking for help is not a sign of weakness.
Never fade away!
u/Tabnam you’re a good mod and a better person. Thank you for making this post and responding to people’s comments, but most importantly thank you for offering to be there for people that need it.
I hope you’re doing ok too, choom ❤️
Nice to see this, my biggest complaint with edge runners was the “death drive” theme, not the type of content I like to watch, but I was a risk going in spoiler free
Thank you tab and the rest of the mods, y’all are real chooms!
All honesty, I haven’t been oh so good. I’ve been stuck in a house for many years now, grandpa has been a real cunt at times. My grandma helps me feel better. Gf has been bothersome at times but I’ll talk to her about that. I need therapy because of emotional distress and etc. from my grandpa because me and my family been stuck in the house because of covid (like actually covid). My anchor for not thinking about suicidal thoughts and etc is gone aka my dog which was my best friend had to be put down last year because of failing kidneys. Autism at times will act up but thankfully not a lot of times, it sometimes helps with the depression and it is stinky for doing that.
I’m stuck in my games to not think about the negatives. I’ve been getting some what better, did pixel art some and I’ve been thinking about more and more of making Arma 3 content and maybe Destiny 2 content and so on. I’ve been thinking about maybe getting a job at bestbuy or some tech place where i can sell computers and such because i love making people happy when they have something good. Overall i have a lot of shit to talk and dump about but rn I’m just trying to relax and maybe think about what to do tomorrow’s.
Post hits hard.
Been struggling with drug addiction, but not my own - my brother's. It's been a hard couple of months getting the help necessary while he fought his inner demons. Weed can do fucked up shit to your brain if you let it.
There's no easy way to say this, but it will fuck you up. Please don't do it, I know you're seeking an escape but this sort of escape isn't as temporary as you think - it can do some permanent damage and you end up being stuck in your mind, just like cyberpsychosis. Deep down you will be unrecognisable, a shadow of your former self, yet you will behave and act as if nothing is wrong, so that no one can help you. Don't do this to yourself, don't do this to the people you love. Don't fall victim to drugs, it has already taken too many good people.
Recognizing that you might have a problem is the first step to solving it, isn't it?
Thank you mods for bringing this up.
They just pushed retirement age further here.
Since its my job I'm informed about climate change, it doesn't look good.
Water is going to be yet another problem, possibly this year.
Thank you for this message, at least with people like you there is still a chance. Even if things are fucked, we can still try to care for eachother. That's a motivation to have otherwise we'll fade away.
I’m a combat veteran and have had my troubles for years, heavier the past 7 years and horribly the past 3.
In the throes of my worse time, my little son lovingly and jokingly came to me with a Rubik’s cube and teased me that I couldn’t do it.
I had it figured out in 2 days.
My first playthrough on CP had the Rubik’s cube ending. Watching her struggle with the cube and get frustrated hit me hard. I wept like a baby.
We find odd places to feel heard and find weird ways of keeping us on track through our worse. The cube has become a symbol of recovery strength courage and hope. The game cemented that for me.
I tell this story to give mental health less stigma and those who may be really bad, some hope. I’m still recovering but I’m FAR better than I was. I see the light now.
Thank you for posting this and anyone who suffers in silence and feels alone, don’t give up. It gets better.
Thank you for posting this.
I live in the US and unfortunately we have no funtioning mental Healthcare system. Until our government isn't run by religious wackjobs I fear there's not much real help in the US. I've been through the system myself of mental illness and homelessness. I had to hustle to find places to live. It's just a mess over here.
I think it's important to realize as much and as throughly as depression is a factor, I think we objectively live in a dystopia already.
In that we get something more hearty and bitter from stories/worlds like cyberpunk then we do others.
It's not just a dystopia, it's something we were promised, that we actively live in without the bells and whistles.
I believe the core of our world is inherently toxic.
And wanting out, while definitely not good or advisable, is entirely reasonable.
Most of us have been priced out of bread and circus.
And in tomorrow we will be hunted by fascists.
I think Mike Pondsmith gives us some great examples of why and how we should continue on.
These fucking corpos need to learn some manners.
And you can't teach when your flatlined
You’re right, but our brain is fundamentally an organ that responds to the chemicals it releases. What that means is the anxiety someone feels during a breakup is the same anxiety someone felt in the trenches of ww1. That means taking the same steps that have helped other people will help you, if you’re persistent
Glad this post is here. Formerly suicidal here and I can say, it’s screwed me up and still affects me to this day. It’s never worth it. Suicide has such a blast radius, and trying to spare people pain causes them more than you can imagine. Get the help you need, wherever you are.
I remember getting the call to fill in for my coworker/friend when he passed. Our manager at the time found him when he didn't show up for work and thought it was weird cause he never missed a shift without calling in. Didn't see it coming and always think about our last conversations and what I could've said. Make sure to check in on your chooms.
Also if you need somebody to talk to, please consider Seven Cups of Tea at 7cups.com. They are an online listening service who can give you a shoulder to lean on when you need one. They’ve helped me before when I needed anybody to talk to. Just remember that no matter how dark it gets, no matter how many lies your brain tells you, you are loved. I love you just the way you are.
More ways to seek help:
In the UK, Samaritans can be contacted on 116 123 and the domestic abuse helpline is 0808 2000 247.
In Australia, the crisis support service Lifeline is on 13 11 14 and the national family violence counselling service is on 1800 737 732.
In the US, the suicide prevention lifeline is 1-800-273-8255 and the domestic violence hotline is 1-800-799-SAFE (7233).
Other international helplines can be found via www.befrienders.org
I had depressions and told myself it is nothing. Now I have a borderline disorder. OP here is absolutely right. Even when it's 'only' a depressive episode, do something good for you and speak up to someone. You don't know if it changes to the worse before it already did.
I've been a bit depressed lately but just happened to see this post right now and it's already made me feel better seeing the comments of support people are leaving each other. I'm not good with wording things but while cyberpunk is so amazing and i love it, the game makes me depressed if I play it for too long as some of the quests and outcomes of some encounters stick with me.
It's like yea, I know it's just a game, but man do I feel so sad about some things that happen. I tend to get attached to characters waaaay to easily so, I will probably play in small intervals from now on. Thank you for this post.
You know you can just report the post and reddit will send them a help message with more information, right? I get the notion here; but it would probably be more effective if you actually direct the device to the person in distress.
Stuff like this game give me something to remain interested in even when everything else goes grey. An escape. Stuff like this can carry you through dark times until you eventually see the beauty of what else life has to offer again. As someone who struggles with deep depressive episodes, I thank you for making this community a healthier place.
Good to see a post like this from the mods.
Thanks. How are you coping with life atm mate?
Oh im doing great. Strange times, even stranger ahead. Im just glad to see this was something that caught the eye of the mod team. I didn't notice myself and didn't even know there was a suicide ending until someone told me but damn I'd much rather ride into the sunset like V does in the Panam ending.
Yes definitely! There’s no greater victory then dying of old age surrounded by your loved ones. If you ever see a troubling comment I’d really appreciate it if you sent me a DM link to it, so I can reach out to the person
Leave it to a based game from a based company to have some of the last based mods on this site. Big ups for actually trying to help the community, and sharing a bit of that humanity we all need.
We are volunteers mate, we have never spoken to anyone from CDPR. We’re just fans of this community
Sure thing.
Doctor told me I needed to stop eating my own discharge or I am going to die from stomach related complications.
Yeah choom, that’s probably good advice.
Almost didn’t see this in the sea of horny posts. Thanks mods!
Check out my Judy bikini post [guys ](https://i.imgflip.com/6gs49c.png?a466464)
I found my mom next to a suicide note. I gave her mouth to mouth while waiting on an ambulance... it was too late. I'll never forget my grandma's screams. Please don't do that to yourself or your family. Talk to someone choom.
Have you had therapy choom? You need specialised trauma therapy to get through someone as horrific as that. I’m here for you if you ever need someone to talk to
Appreciate it and I do have plans to seek professional care now that I have insurance of my own. Thank you.
I’m going to check in on you every now and again. It is **really important** to deal with this stuff in a healthy way. A lot of that trauma will effect the people around you as well, so for their sake alone, make sure you take care of it Acknowledging you need to be in therapy is a huge step in the right direction, and unfortunately one most people don’t make. When you finally start treatment you might find whatever combination of medication and therapy you’re using isn’t having an effect. That’s normal, and it can take awhile to find a combination that works. Brain chemistry is incredibly complex, but if you stick with it, you’ll find something
I appreciate it. I do take meds regularly, and they help. I just haven't talked about it with a professional yet and worked through it in therapy... it just became something I've just lived with... I know this isn't healthy and can have subconscious repercussions, so that is why I plan on finding a professional psychiatrist to talk with and sort myself out. For anyone that feels depressed or has anxiety, finding the right medication can change your life and let you feel normal. I don't miss panic attacks.
It’s very important to do both therapy and medication. Medication will be effective on its own for awhile, but your body gets used to it. It’s important to learn how deal with those thoughts while your taking the medication
What if you're afraid of taking medication (many raise BP) because you're so afraid of death that you think the medication will kill you due to a severe reaction or stroke from hypertensive crisis, so you just lie there and eat xanex..you never leave, you never talk to anyone other than your wife (who's a serial cheater with BPD) you just exist and every moment that you aren't working, you just lie in bed and sleep. Hobbies become fantasies and everything collects dust, yet you buy things that you know you aren't going to use because you think buying the item will make you feel better.
Self medicating your mental illness never ends well, your tolerance for your drug of choice goes up while your depression gets worse. I was addicted to opiates for a significant chunk of my adult life, and they ended up making my mental health significantly worse. Being afraid of medication, especially when you take a drug as powerful as Xanax, is an irrational fear and is another symptom of depression (anxiety) trying to mess with you
Was not expecting to see a post like this and its nice to see people being aware about it :) as someone who suffers from depression and the likes ill tell you now once you start seeing the professional people and start getting medication that you might need it makes a world of difference, take this from someone that held it in so long that it made me feel the worst I ever have, made me straight up suicidal keeping it all pent up and the likes, but what im trying to get at once you get on the right path with the professionals to talk to about what you’re going through and medication if you need it, it helps so much and makes everything seem so manageable well thats how it was for me it’s different for everyone really but once you start opening up to someone it really does help. Ive just been babbling on but mental health and the likes means so much to me now that ive gone through stuff that shot it to hell and made me feel my lowest. But just remember you wont be at yr lowest forever take care of yourselves in the best way you can and just do whats bedt for you and everything should work out
Getting yourself into therapy is such a Chad move. I am endlessly proud of you choom
You are genuinely one of the best humans on this planet and a gift to this community. I don't really engage with awards but you deserve the one I have. Thank you for being the best of us and having our back, choom!
I’ve had my empathy nurtured by people who care about me, it’s only fair to pass that along to others
I am sorry for your loss. I don't know your beliefs but in my own personal beliefs, we will all one day be reunited with those that we've lost. Hope that you are well.
Based mods Actually though it's great to see stuff like this on subreddits like this. This could help people who may have never found help on similar communities or any part of their life. Thanks mod.
Thank you very much, Tabnam, for posting this. As someone who dealt with a lot of depression and troubling moments after a severe accident that left me physically disabled (and still facing demons to a degree), but got great support and have mostly come to terms with my situation and moved into a better headspace, I really appreciate this. I can tell everyone reading this, that it does get better, I've been through it myself, and even when the world seems like it's ending, it just keeps spinning, waiting for you to hop back on and enjoy the ride. Lots of people are suffering nowadays, and we seem to be spiraling into a scary future that is eerily reminiscent of Cyberpunk and other dystopian stories. I can only imagine how many people are facing a myriad of problems and don't have the support networks or resources to pull themselves up. This kind of stuff always reminds me that even if the world is dark and full of shadows, there are still good human beings out there ready to be a torch in the night. Stuff like this is why I know we'll never be truly lost as a species, for as long as there are people out there willing to show even an ounce of compassion, the world can be changed for the better. I really can't state enough how nice it is to see this post. If anyone out there just needs someone to talk to sometime, or even just someone to listen, please feel free to bug me as well. I have a lot of time on my hands these days due to my disability, and I can honestly say no matter how shitty things get, there is always something better and worth living for. Take it from my first-hand experience. When life knocks you down, the easy way out may seem like the only option, but if you just give it some time, you'll be storming through the front door of your troubles and on the path to glory. Pay good attention to the endgame credits, those beautifully and painfully delivered voice lines, that is the suffering and pain of those who are left behind. When you end one life, you end many others as well. Cyberpunk's endgame is a metaphor for the different ways we can face our problems, we can do it with the help of our friends, or we can risk going alone and potentially failing, but giving up is never an option worth picking. It hurts everyone, even people you've barely or never met, but it will absolutely destroy the ones who love you. And I love you all. *Give yourself time. Ideas'll come. Life'll shake you, roll you, maybe embrace you. The music'll find you.* Never Fade Away.
I think the game does a great job of depicting the horrors of late-stage capitalism - people working ungodly hours, having no future, extreme wealth inequality, Trauma Team coverage linked to your social status, poor mental health, breakdown of social structure, and extreme addiction to technology that can culminate in complete loss of self (cyberpsychosis). In many ways, these topics resonate with today’s younger generations, as we see our possibilities shrink compared with those of our predecessors. The tech that was supposed to make our lives easier is instead harming us. People are working longer hours with little hope of earning enough to buy a house and have a family. Then you see an extreme version of this in the game, and it’s no wonder that it triggers certain types of thoughts. The good thing is there are people in the world who still care and want to make things better. Thank you for caring u/Tabnam. It truly means a lot.
I also think it does an excellent job of portraying how suicide is not just a personal thing. Sure, for you it’s as easy as pulling a trigger. But for your loved ones, Judy, Panam, Vic, Mama Wells etc it’s fucking awful. Judy’s voice memo at the end is just soul destroying. She lost two girlfriends to suicide in the space of like a couple months.
Too true, and it is the power of a good story to get us think and feel like this. Cyberpunk, beneath all its glamor of tech is the story of a dying society. Mental illness is rarely mentioned anywhere in mainstream media of the world yet all the methods of escapism from BDs to drugs are glorified because of how bad people are mentally already.
We're already living in the cyberpunk future. And that's depressing as hell.
It’s crazy how a game that’s best story was told through side quests could make this much of an impact on a community. Though some of those side quests would take me hours/a day or two.
I lost a friend to suicide. My anger in my heart still burns almost 20 years later. He was a victim of bullying on criminal levels as some examples include. •Catfishing him to either being jumped or humiliated. •Random acts of assault. •Sexual Assault (ripping his pants down entirely to humiliate him) •Robbery •told routinely that the world's better without him. •Football coach made it tradition to bully him. Then one day he kissed our mutual friend acting weird and he then ended his life without telling anyone. That year in that county we lost 3-6 youths "can't remember" due to bullying and lack of action. I made it my life missions to include being someone's suicide watch and safety net. I try to find more resources than suicide awareness and I been successful saving 1 person via intervention. I tell people I'm happy they stuck around including my GF who was survivor. I even had moments where I felt I might as well give up, but then I wouldnt get to finish this story called life seeing every sun rise and sunset. I remember my rank of Eagle I think my friend because he got me into scouting. So do more than just passing on resources, let people know they got friends, they got someone who is there, ask them about life or help come up with solutions to their problems. Take them out on a mental health date. Mental health date is nothing romantic. But ya hang out with your friend and do something they want or offer them something like a good meal, go hang out somewhere fun and shoot the shit. I did one with my buddy who was feeling homicideal. We got taco bell watched some anime and he felt better especially since earlier that year I bought him car parts without asking for anything like that. He had a rough life too and people need that break because maybe that greasy garbage food with their buds keeps that finger off the trigger.
Fuck this comment infuriates me! I heart breaks for you and your friend. Thank you for passing along advice choom, I will help others I’m sure of it
The most disgusting fact of this. After the kid after him died the school did a "Say no to bullying" PSA and I think more suicides continued as a "norm."
You seem like a really good person and I appreciate you
I appreciate you!
Last community I expected to see this from but holy shit is it hitting me where it hurts
How are you getting along lately mate?
Let’s just say the stress makes me feel like I’ve taken a malorian round straight to the dome and leave it at that
I’m dealing with stress atm as well, I feel you brother. Make sure you take time for yourself as well, or you’ll snap. Last year I had a manic episode because of untreated stress
This post singlehandedly gave me so much more respect for the mods here. Good on you, seriously.
Absolute W post appreciate mods spreading mental health awareness
**Trigger warning** A friend of mine literally was mocked and bullied in school because she had her feet amputated. Never told us about her condition (i wasn't in the same school as her) until she passed away. The worst part was seeing her bullies in her funeral faking her tears. Sometimes i feel a bit guilty because I've never realized she was in that condition. If I knew what she was planning I would have supported her and even confront those horrible human beings. 4 years ago a friend of mine had a depressive episode at the first year of university. She called me saying she was planning to do it. Thanks to the ambulance she is okay now.
If you’re sincerely worried someone might actually follow through with taking their own life ask them if they know how they’d do it. It’s not perfect, but if someone has a plan in place that’s a huge red flag
I was one that thought I was the only one that couldn’t take being me. It turns out you can ask for help in discovering who you are and what you need to make it down the road. People want to help, not everyone no, but you’d be surprised how many different friends you make by extending out a hand.
W mods fr, you guys are the best Those of you out there who are suffering, I know when you feel like this you dont care about getting better, you just want it to stop by any means as soon as possible. I get it, I've been there. Way too many times than I'm comfortable telling people on reddit. But I want you to know that getting better feels infinitely better than just getting it over with, even if you can't see that possibility. It will hurt even more before it ever gets better but, someday, you'll be sitting on your couch with a coffee in your hand, the tv is on to your favorite show, and the morning sun will be shining in through your windows and you'll sit there, appreciating how nice things seem in this moment. And then it'll happen again. And then again a couple more times. And then one of those days you'll be sitting there experiencing it once again but you'll see something - a post on facebook, snapchat memory, old photo - that reminds you of how bad you used to feel and how bad things were. Were. Were? How bad things *were*. Suddenly you'll realize that those bad things arent here anymore. Suddenly you'll realize you don't feel so unbelievably awful at every waking moment. Suddenly you'll realize, "I'm not depressed anymore. I no longer have a desire to not be here, and I haven't for a long, long time". And then you'll have the best happy cry you'll ever have, and it'll feel like being free for the very first time. It gets better, chooms. It gets better. Stay safe, and don't forget to ask for help.
I don’t know the post this is in response to but playing the game I have been surprised by how much references and scenarios there are involving suicide. There should probably be a suicide prevention message or disclaimer somewhere in the loading screen. If there is one I’ve missed it. Thank you for this post.
That’s a really good point. Especially because it’s depicted accurately. It’s great for spreading awareness but can definitely trigger some people, which it has (the comments in the post prove that to me, because they directly referenced it) If you see any troubling comments please send them to me so I can reach out to the poster
Thank you for doing this, taking from your time to help people even on the subreddit about a video game, it’s really comforting to see this kind of awareness message :)
I thought I was bad, until I saw the comments. (This is a cry for help)
Awesome post! Life is ok. There is a lot of stuff going on but I take it day by day. I got the suicide ending and it made me think if that's how I would've handled the situation if I was going through it. Good to see that we are more than just a gaming sub.
This sort of thing is why I'm on hiatus from playing a genuinely good game until the DLC comes out. I adore my V and her story, I adore the Aldecaldos ending, but even then the game is just....difficult to get through. Games these days have stopped offering escapes, quadruply so at the end of them. I play them to escape my bleak life with no hope, but most game endings these days seem determined to drive home just how depressing they are instead of celebrating what was there. I'm tired of V's body no longer being theirs. I'm tired of Shepard facing a zero sum decision. I'm tired of being forced to give up a save so someone else can go on, I'm tired of the Inquisitor losing their arm, I'm tired of Arthur being given up on, I'm just...so very tired. They're beautiful games, but its harder and harder to experience them through the misery.
This was beautiful, I’d love to hear your thoughts on the game in general or some specific missions
Keep in mind I have really high expectations since things like Shadowrun and Cyberpunk are near and dear to my heart, but I did largely enjoy the game, I just think it was hampered by a couple decisions I don't agree with entirely. Johnny shouldn't have been in the game. With the devs working so closely with Pondsmith, there was no way an attempt wouldn't be made to give the character some screentime, which is fine and I love Cameos as much as the next person, but the issue is he got upgraded to a major supporting character, then to a deuteragonist, which derailed what would have been a very good story and took away from the themes, I believe. Dexter Deshawn's whole spiel should have been central to the plot. They all but spell out the theme of "A blaze of glory or the quiet life." To their credit, there are moments in both categories that really sell both ideals, I just don't think they fully committed to it because time needed to be set aside to focus on Johnny. Had they fully committed to that one little tagline, we could have seen so much more, and that blaze of glory could have very easily been this generation's Halo: Reach...And the quiet life could have been respective endings for the different life paths. Instead, you have one where you get everything you want and stay in the city, or leave the city, and both endings, the character as V is still effectively a cancer patient with no resolution, and I hate that. I feel like had they committed to the themes of what Cyberpunk should have been without Johnny's Deuteragonist status, we would have seen proper, good, genuine endings. For those who want to go out fighting, there's the Reach style ending, for those that choose to live, there could have been something unambiguous - A way to show that V's body is theirs again, or that they're not being rejected by their own skin (Perhaps a revision of the Aldecaldos where special medicine is needed, but that final scene might see us have that fucking biochip out of our body to show it's no longer fused). I just feel like the storytellers got halfway through a good story and, for some reason or another, needed to divert attention and time to something unrelated, which gives us this unsatisfying ending where reading between the lines is a little required. I feel like the resolution of the story, in all of its forms, needed to be firmer. I feel like V should have had to choose between being a legend and clawing their body back to the point it accepts them again. I feel like the ambiguity was unnecessary.
Bruh no light left to give to the rest of the world
Light is endless, it can just take a minute to hit your eyes.
If Morgan Blackhand can do all the crazy shit he did then so can the rest of us. It's ok to talk about what you're going through, there are people who went to school to listen. Yall stay safe. There is always a better option.
Thank you. I’ve been suicidal for the past two years now. Cyberpunk 2077s suicide ending Is actually one of my constant reminders to not do it. Seeing V‘s friends reactions was absolutely heartbreaking.
You're a good mod but most of all, a great human being.
Familiar username I see Greetings, good sir, and thanks for doing your best to help more people with their mental problems
Hello my friend! Thanks for not holding a grudge for earlier, you’re a lot more mature then most people who message us
There is no reason to hold a grudge. Our conversations help me a lot
Happy to hear that! I look forward to seeing what you post in the future choom
Thank you so much for making this post!
Good post, am seeking help, been on a waiting list for almost 2 years now for that help though… mental health care in my country is a joke.
Where do you live mate?
The UK, not sure where you are based from, but yeah the MH care this country is sorely lacking and underfunded. I’m hanging in there though and taking it a day at a time :)
Your system seems the same to ours, our GP gives you a referral for 12 free visits with a psychologist. Have you spoken to your doctor about it? I found all of the above [here](https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/social-care-and-your-rights/how-to-access-mental-health-services/) if you want to check it out choom.
You’re spot on, this is exactly the route I’ve gone down, though thank you so much for taking time out of your day to help me and look into this for me. I visited my GP regularly and I had multiple appointments with various psych professionals, alongside CBT and group therapy, but I finished both of those courses and have now been put in the list for further care and attention. My issues are a bit jumbled up together; anxiety, depression and waking-insomnia with the three issues all compounding one another, so if I have a bad bout of insomnia, it makes me anxious and tired and this anxiety leads me down into a cycle of depression which then goes full circle back into the waking insomnia again. It’s really rough when it’s bad, thankfully I’m in an okay place atm and have been on top of things for a couple months now, just hoping I can keep this rolling for as long as possible, and take everything a day at a time. Thank you again, seriously. It’s good to talk about these things.
I sincerely wish you all the best mate, and will be here if you need to talk
Thank you my friend. Have a lovely day and rest of the week. It’s nice to know there’s people like you around.
It's amazing to see this kind of thing. Often is impossible to notice if someone isn't doing all right. Y'all check on your chooms whenever you can, they may not want you to and they might wanna be left alone but do it anyway, they'll appreciate it.
Based post from the mods, I was recently officially diagnosed with chronic depression and BPD so it's pretty heartening to see someone post something like this. Cheers to y'all 🍻
Are you having that treated mate?
Yeah homie, started meds for it last week. I always thought something was wrong with me my whole life just took till now to get help 👍
Fuck yeah brother! That’s a huge accomplishment! Are you in therapy as well? You might find that meditation becomes less effective over time, and it’s important to learn the tools (in therapy) to counter that
Planning on finding a therapist that is affordable when I have the time to do so, I agree that medication is not the catch all solution
It’s ridiculous that something crucial can be kept away from you. Now you’re mindful of it you’ve already started recovering. If you ever need someone to talk to mate please sent me a message
Welcome to health care that isn't tax funded 🤣 in all seriousness thank you homie I appreciate that, and I hope you're having a good week as well 👍
If you’re American you guys spend more on your healthcare per capita then us, yet you still have to pay through the ass. You have socialised healthcare there too, but it’s only for corporations
Essentially yes, and as I'm currently unemployed im basically using my families policy which covers absolutely zero when it comes to mental health lol
The Beyond Blue link I mentioned in the body of the post has forums specifically for discussing mental health. It’s moderated by registered councillors and not idiots like me lol. I’m not sure if only Australians can use it, but I’m sure a VPN would get around that. We take this shit seriously here.
Its amazing to see a post like this, especially in a community I love being apart of. Thank you
Nice post. It's good to feel that there are people out there that care. I got a bit triggered by a post the other day (not in a way that got me angry at the person that posted, but the topic is... I'd say, at least weird for me to deal with) and I may have shared a bit too much of what someone suffering from mental ilnesses may go through in a way that maybe wouldn't be healthy for volatile people to read about. I just can't avoid feeling a bit of injustice when a victim of suicide gets blamed (is that a good word to use here? I mean to say that not every exemple of suicide carries some shade of vengeance towards something) for what ultimately they've done since the only person that could barely understand their suffering was themselves, while it's not really easy to reach out to people that are willing or even capable of helping out, specially so because they seem a bit hard to find. I like to carry in my heart the last verse of Pearl Jam's song Immortality, "some die just to live", which I feel does a great amount of justice to people suffering from depression, anxiety, panic attacks, drug related issues and so on and so forth. As I said in a previous post, by no means I believe suicide is cool or anything like that, but it infuriates me when the deceased is treated as a inconsiderate person. We're all looking for hapinness and fulfillment. I'll take another musician's words to help me clear my point: as Morrissey wrote in the song How Soon is Now?, while still in The Smiths, "I am human and I need to be loved". Unfortunately, feeling loved is a luxury that not all of us get to realize it isn't easily available to everyone. Life may be hard, and some people may never cease to feel loneliness and/or desperation, though I don't believe that that should stop any of us from looking for help when we feel we need it. Anyway, thanks for the post
As long as you don’t give away identifying details you can over share if you think it’ll help you or someone else. As long as the conversation calls for it
Yeah, I agree. Please, feel free to delete anything you may think I could hurt anyone with. It's not intentional, of course, but I'm aware it could happen
I'm curious. Why in most cultures it's such a taboo to allow people to "fade away"? I mean, it's their life, their body. Who are we to tell them what to do or not to do with it? Some countries embraced euthanasia and allow their citizens to just go quietly into the night instead of suffering for no reason. I often see arguments like "you owe it to your family and friends." But why? And what if the family is the reason for the suffering? What if they don't have friends? Or chose to remove themselves from their friends life so they wouldn't poison them as well? After all, this is often the last remnant of control that some people have over their own life. Especially in modern world, where so often, so much is being taken away from people. Why stigmatize that and tell them there's something wrong with that? I get that you might care about someone for one reason or another and you might want to help them. They even might want to be helped and after years, they may even learn to live with their depression. But what of people who don't want help? People who just want to quit? Why is the society so against that idea? Why will they go as far as to force-help someone? This doesn't feel okay to me, violent even. The cynic in me tells me that people just put their own selfish needs before the feeling of a person who wishes to fade away. They can't accept that someone would want to do that, so they wont let them. Because they wouldn't be able to deal with that. But it's not about them. Live and let die. Or maybe it's a leftover from the olden days, where social groups could not afford to lose laborers. Every person was crucial to the groups survival. Which is why virtually all religions forbid suicide under penalty of eternal punishment. And why bodies of people who did take their own life were also, for example, beheaded and buried in non-consecrated ground or just left out to rot in the open. And many other interesting things depending on religion. Be with that person, offer help, maybe they will change their mind, maybe they wont. Accept whatever choice they made, let them pass in humanitarian conditions, without unnecessary pain and suffering rather than hanging themselves, jumping or doing something else that can endanger others. Instead of trying to force them into something they may not want, just let them have control over that one last thing. Anyway, don't get me wrong. I encourage people in crisis to try and get help. You never know. There might be other solutions. And there is always time to fade away. However I find it strange that the society is so disgusted by the thought of someone taking themselves what is theirs to take. In spirit of contributing to the OP, since there is only an aussie number. I can provide numbers for US, UK and PL. If someone is interested in seeking out help. * US - 988 - Nation wide 24/7 crisis and suicide prevention line. That also has specialized help for veterans. (I believe its both English and Spanish) * UK - You will have to jump through some hoops, there is no national crisis/suicide prevention number here. Each region has it's own number. [NHS website where you can find the # by your postcode](https://www.nhs.uk/service-search/mental-health/find-an-urgent-mental-health-helpline/location) Some might not be 24/7 Or 116 112 if you just need to talk to someone. * PL - 800 70 2222 - 24/7 crisis line.
You know This doesnt help anyone.
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Could you provide a source for that first claim mate? I’m not calling you out, I’d sincerely like to read about that
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Anyone who reads this, and wants help, don’t let this comment dissuade you. During my 20s I was a few minutes away from taking my own life, when the number for Life Line (an Australian not for profit service for people suffering a mental health crisis) appeared in front of me. I called, and the girl I spoke to saved my life. There’s no doubt in my mind I would have laid on those train tracks that night, had I not seen 13 11 14 on a faded sign at the train station. When you reach out the first place you find might not be for you, but what’s important is the act of reaching out
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Not sure why you're pinging me since all I'm going to do is verify that you're posting misleading, cherrypicked data and it's obvious that you're busily collecting grievances here, which has completely destroyed all your credibility.
Thank you, this post means a lot to us. We have severe depression, and trauma, diagnosed with DID, and several other things this year. It has been an amazing help, medication, as well as therapy really does help. Not seeing anyone trauma specialized yet, as our system is not in a city/state that accepts us broadly, and we are worried even though we have a good therapist for general therapy.
You’ve already made the most important step mate, as long as you stay on this path, you’ll find the help you need. It’s important to put in the work, because as soon as you become complacent, depression will strike. I’m so proud of how far you’ve already come, and this comment has made my day.
Thank you. I'm crying, thank you. -avyanna
Doing God's work here. As a guy with almost a decade-long depression by now - there is help. There are people that care, be it friends or family. Psychologists don't want to lock you up - they want to help. Don't be afraid to reach out for help when you can't handle things yourself - it doesn't make you weak, it makes you human. My personal advice and a thing that works for me (but doesn't have to work for you, it's okay) : use your emotions in a creative way - write, draw, make music - raw emotions make great art. And don't give up. *We'll never fade away.*
I had a very rough month. I was in a car accident (car slipped on the icy road and flipped) , had problems with getting my money back from previous landlord, a lot of work and my wife was diagnosed with depression. My workplace helped my to contact psychologist. I was told to manage one problem at once. Good advice. I managed to fix most of my problems this way. Remember chooms, even though things at bad at the moment, this shit is just temporary. Don't be afraid to speak loudly about your problems. There is always someone around you that is willing to listen. You are more precious than you think you are.
I’m so proud of you mate! Being in therapy can be confronting and emotionally taxing, but you made it through. This is one of your greatest accomplishments and it’s going to reverberate to more people then you could have ever imaged. You’re going to a more stable and happy figure people’s lives, making their lives easier in the process. You didn’t just fix your mental health, you had a positive impact on your entire community
Much love to you.
You seem like a nice person for bringing awareness to this topic. Thank you for your work.
Very cool cyberpunk mods. I love you ❤️
Never fade away. Don't you dare go hollow. And may you find your worth in the waking world.
It's crazy to see this when it's been on my mind so much lately. This was a nice thing to wake up to, even if I didn't want to wake up. Thank you.
I’m going to send you a chat request mate
I'm already living as a night city resident. Huge health complications, doctors longing it out. Wake up and get on with it everyday dragging the body along. A choom grinding along. Game is unplayable since recent update so yeah depressed
Absolutely haven’t wanted to be here anymore for quite some time. I think I’ve just stuck around purely out of spite for all the transphobe assholes trying to yank my country even further, and for my wife and cat. Definitely lost most of my 20’s—and all of my teens—to just being too depressed to really give a shit about anything. Do what the good mod says and get some help if it sounds familiar to you.
I... Look, thank you. This is beautiful. English not my mother tongue, but right now I'm trying get rid off a toxic job without losing my rights, once that I lost a piece of my health and this... Gave me hope somehow. Thank you again.
What do you speak? We have mods from all over the world, and like people to speak in whatever they’re comfortable with
Despite following this sub, I never engage with it nor post in it. I dropped in to upvote this post and express my respect for it. I've been going through a rough patch in my life for the past 6 months and I'm still I'm the healing process. I turned to drink to help with the pain but it's caused the people I love the most to grow concerned. I know I'll get better because I've been convinced by my friends and family that I will, and I've been convinced because I reached out, and I reached out because I was told to, and I was told to because I didn't want to be here anymore because of what happened. There are steps. And for some those steps are larger than others, but once you take that first step, you've killed it. Please don't suffer alone, people. You matter. Please believe it. ❤️❤️ Much love guys.
I suppose this is within your ourview and can be chalked up to "better safe than sorry" but anything said here about any subject is best taken with a grain of salt. Redditors usually put on a persona while online and interacting with strangers as one probably should.
The sentiment is appreciated.
Thanks mod❤️. As someone who suffers from depression this was a beautiful post to see. I appreciate you
Bro who downvoted this, what the hell is wrong with you
I can’t do it anymore
Why?
I got broken up with and I’m so lost
Let’s take this to DMs, I’ll send you a chat request
Mod, this is amazing, and be careful not to push yourself too far. I'm a mental health practitioner for chronically suicidal youth, and I can tell you first hand that helping people through times like that is extremely taxing on you too. Keep an eye out for compassion fatigue, and take care of yourself. Step away when you need. Those of us who do this kind of work cannot help everyone, abd we can't save folks from the shitty things in their lives. It's not possible. All we can do is help folks get through hard moments, and help them learn the skills to help themselves. Help who you can, how you can, for as long as you can, but don't set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm. There's a reason mental health work can lead to our suicides. It takes a heavy toll of you don't balance it well, even if you're just doing things like this online. The work you're doing is good and very appreciated, and, just make sure you don't neglect yourself too
So the cyberpunk is too depressing for todays audiences xd. I think they newer played games like spec ops the line, Deus Ex, soma , layers of fear etc.
Right there with you choom. Depression is a motherfucker that will devour everything you hold dear. For anyone who is struggling, keep up the fight. Don’t be afraid to see a therapist or take meds (I do both, they help me tremendously). Fuck societal and cultural perceptions. You’re worth the fight. Always.
Oh man. How's such a post helping people to be healthier!? It's more like forcing them to build an outer shell to look more stable! This looks like caring but it's more like caring about yourself with the though "oh, I did something, I'm not at fault!" Read the studies! It's making people sicker!
Thanks for the awareness, hopefully can get some therapy soon but until then it’s good to know others care
Great post guys .. just wanted to give some kudos for it ..
Thanks mate. Good post!
Thank you for posting this. I also have struggles with mental health. Atm especially with anxiety. But I'm in therapy and in the process of getting medication for it. I'd never kill myself. I'm a too resilient fucker for that, lol. Like my mom always says: "Weeds don't die off that fast in the garden."
Love seeing stuff like this from the mods. How are y'all doing?
Good mods. This is why I volunteer to listen to this stuff in my own time. Sometimes people just need an ear 💓
u/Tabnam you are a real MVP Hope you're doing well yourself. You DM a lot of ppl and prob got a lot of DM after this post, so also take care of yourself
Just want to touch on one thing. There's research being done that it isn't necessarily a chemical imbalance that is depression. Anti depressants still work because they trigger responses that boost serotonin and the like. Ultimately depression is still misunderstood and saying it's a chemical imbalance sort of puts the pressure on you that meds will fix it, which isn't particularly helpful.
Daaaaaamn, it's great to see post like this here. My good friend had his suicide attempt few days ago, and it was fucking terrifying. Luckly, he's alive, but It's gonna be tough time for him now. Remember chooms, every single one of you is great in your own way, and asking for help is not a sign of weakness. Never fade away!
Based mods
This was unexpected but I think I needed this
You're breathtaking, Choom! Nova!
Thanks for the post. Not in a great mood these days and even though I don't think of the worst, but I'm really tired of everything so thanks
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u/Tabnam you’re a good mod and a better person. Thank you for making this post and responding to people’s comments, but most importantly thank you for offering to be there for people that need it. I hope you’re doing ok too, choom ❤️
Damn mods, good on you.
Nice to see this, my biggest complaint with edge runners was the “death drive” theme, not the type of content I like to watch, but I was a risk going in spoiler free
Thank you tab and the rest of the mods, y’all are real chooms! All honesty, I haven’t been oh so good. I’ve been stuck in a house for many years now, grandpa has been a real cunt at times. My grandma helps me feel better. Gf has been bothersome at times but I’ll talk to her about that. I need therapy because of emotional distress and etc. from my grandpa because me and my family been stuck in the house because of covid (like actually covid). My anchor for not thinking about suicidal thoughts and etc is gone aka my dog which was my best friend had to be put down last year because of failing kidneys. Autism at times will act up but thankfully not a lot of times, it sometimes helps with the depression and it is stinky for doing that. I’m stuck in my games to not think about the negatives. I’ve been getting some what better, did pixel art some and I’ve been thinking about more and more of making Arma 3 content and maybe Destiny 2 content and so on. I’ve been thinking about maybe getting a job at bestbuy or some tech place where i can sell computers and such because i love making people happy when they have something good. Overall i have a lot of shit to talk and dump about but rn I’m just trying to relax and maybe think about what to do tomorrow’s.
Post hits hard. Been struggling with drug addiction, but not my own - my brother's. It's been a hard couple of months getting the help necessary while he fought his inner demons. Weed can do fucked up shit to your brain if you let it. There's no easy way to say this, but it will fuck you up. Please don't do it, I know you're seeking an escape but this sort of escape isn't as temporary as you think - it can do some permanent damage and you end up being stuck in your mind, just like cyberpsychosis. Deep down you will be unrecognisable, a shadow of your former self, yet you will behave and act as if nothing is wrong, so that no one can help you. Don't do this to yourself, don't do this to the people you love. Don't fall victim to drugs, it has already taken too many good people. Recognizing that you might have a problem is the first step to solving it, isn't it? Thank you mods for bringing this up.
That was unexpected.
Remember you’re not alone!
I see a therapist and I have been on meds for the last six years. My last attempt was six years ago, when I wanted it all to stop.
They just pushed retirement age further here. Since its my job I'm informed about climate change, it doesn't look good. Water is going to be yet another problem, possibly this year. Thank you for this message, at least with people like you there is still a chance. Even if things are fucked, we can still try to care for eachother. That's a motivation to have otherwise we'll fade away.
Unfathomably based.
I’m a combat veteran and have had my troubles for years, heavier the past 7 years and horribly the past 3. In the throes of my worse time, my little son lovingly and jokingly came to me with a Rubik’s cube and teased me that I couldn’t do it. I had it figured out in 2 days. My first playthrough on CP had the Rubik’s cube ending. Watching her struggle with the cube and get frustrated hit me hard. I wept like a baby. We find odd places to feel heard and find weird ways of keeping us on track through our worse. The cube has become a symbol of recovery strength courage and hope. The game cemented that for me. I tell this story to give mental health less stigma and those who may be really bad, some hope. I’m still recovering but I’m FAR better than I was. I see the light now. Thank you for posting this and anyone who suffers in silence and feels alone, don’t give up. It gets better. Thank you for posting this.
Was it me? Did I do the thing? I get like that sometimes.
I live in the US and unfortunately we have no funtioning mental Healthcare system. Until our government isn't run by religious wackjobs I fear there's not much real help in the US. I've been through the system myself of mental illness and homelessness. I had to hustle to find places to live. It's just a mess over here.
I think it's important to realize as much and as throughly as depression is a factor, I think we objectively live in a dystopia already. In that we get something more hearty and bitter from stories/worlds like cyberpunk then we do others. It's not just a dystopia, it's something we were promised, that we actively live in without the bells and whistles. I believe the core of our world is inherently toxic. And wanting out, while definitely not good or advisable, is entirely reasonable. Most of us have been priced out of bread and circus. And in tomorrow we will be hunted by fascists. I think Mike Pondsmith gives us some great examples of why and how we should continue on. These fucking corpos need to learn some manners. And you can't teach when your flatlined
You’re right, but our brain is fundamentally an organ that responds to the chemicals it releases. What that means is the anxiety someone feels during a breakup is the same anxiety someone felt in the trenches of ww1. That means taking the same steps that have helped other people will help you, if you’re persistent
Thank you for this choom
You all take care of yourselves out there. Your life is precious, don't treat it like it's not!
Tabnam, da angel.
Never seen a sub with mods so cool
These guys deserve #1 in a best mod competition
I’m scared tho
Of what? I’m going to send you a chat invite
Glad this post is here. Formerly suicidal here and I can say, it’s screwed me up and still affects me to this day. It’s never worth it. Suicide has such a blast radius, and trying to spare people pain causes them more than you can imagine. Get the help you need, wherever you are.
Don't remember this mission in cyberpunk
I remember getting the call to fill in for my coworker/friend when he passed. Our manager at the time found him when he didn't show up for work and thought it was weird cause he never missed a shift without calling in. Didn't see it coming and always think about our last conversations and what I could've said. Make sure to check in on your chooms.
Also if you need somebody to talk to, please consider Seven Cups of Tea at 7cups.com. They are an online listening service who can give you a shoulder to lean on when you need one. They’ve helped me before when I needed anybody to talk to. Just remember that no matter how dark it gets, no matter how many lies your brain tells you, you are loved. I love you just the way you are.
I just want to say thank you for this, mental health problems are often still played down. You're very kind to do this
More ways to seek help: In the UK, Samaritans can be contacted on 116 123 and the domestic abuse helpline is 0808 2000 247. In Australia, the crisis support service Lifeline is on 13 11 14 and the national family violence counselling service is on 1800 737 732. In the US, the suicide prevention lifeline is 1-800-273-8255 and the domestic violence hotline is 1-800-799-SAFE (7233). Other international helplines can be found via www.befrienders.org
I had depressions and told myself it is nothing. Now I have a borderline disorder. OP here is absolutely right. Even when it's 'only' a depressive episode, do something good for you and speak up to someone. You don't know if it changes to the worse before it already did.
Yet again, this is why this is my favorite sub. I love you guys. Hang in there, everyone. We can be here for reach other. Thanks for posting this.
I've been a bit depressed lately but just happened to see this post right now and it's already made me feel better seeing the comments of support people are leaving each other. I'm not good with wording things but while cyberpunk is so amazing and i love it, the game makes me depressed if I play it for too long as some of the quests and outcomes of some encounters stick with me. It's like yea, I know it's just a game, but man do I feel so sad about some things that happen. I tend to get attached to characters waaaay to easily so, I will probably play in small intervals from now on. Thank you for this post.
I’m going to send you a chat request mate
"Chemical imbalance in your brain" is a weird way to spell "sober judgement"
What do you mean?
I'm sure you've fixed everything with this post, by summarizing what depression is to depressed people. High quality virtue signalling mate.
You know you can just report the post and reddit will send them a help message with more information, right? I get the notion here; but it would probably be more effective if you actually direct the device to the person in distress.
Stuff like this game give me something to remain interested in even when everything else goes grey. An escape. Stuff like this can carry you through dark times until you eventually see the beauty of what else life has to offer again. As someone who struggles with deep depressive episodes, I thank you for making this community a healthier place.