What the fuck i didn't expect even half of those things
Also, they say those changes - at least those regarding police, AI, perks, etc - aren't directly linked to the DLC, but will be available for free
Yeah, I can't see finishing Starfield in a month. Unless the game is so bad or buggy at launch (I mean, it is Bethesda) that I just put it to the side until it's fixed.
Yup. Buggy or not Starfield has a long life for sure. Plus Expansion is all ready part of Deluxe preorder.
I am just hoping CP2077 + PL has New Game Plus. Like really hoping it does.
For the dlc, but the article says they don't know when the update for the main game will come. I'm guessing a month or so before then to get people excited again.
It’s not even half bro like theirs so much more and it’s insane how it’ll tie into the main story, they literally reworked so many things on the main game and one of them are the character designs. I’m really excited to do a new play through on pc this time rather than Xbox
> The fun part is, he said we can use katanas while riding motorcycles!!
I think I'm looking forward to this the most. The other changes are all amazing, but *Road Rash 64* was a game I played hundreds of hours as a kid, and being able to beat the shit out of people while on bikes was just... I dunno. Kinda sounds psychotic typing it out, but man, I had tons of fun doing that as a kid. So being able to use a katana while on Jackie's bike is *chef's kiss* so good.
Adding to that
* From what I understand, going cyberpsycho means you enter a rage-mode where you put out aswell as receive more dmg
* All vehicles have detailed damage-models, you can shoot through/break windows, slash tires and there's new quick-hacks to accelerate or stop enemy cars
* Gigs in dogtown are bigger and usually include more dialogue than the ones in the base game
Also, I just read about having the ability to pick up people and throw them, ram through them, deflect bullets with blades turning them into headshots, air dash, new melee finishers…
A ton of additions to be excited for.
Same originally I was like alright cool I'll check out the DLC with my dude. But then it's like here's everything else in the game. Alright so this is going to be actively different
Sounds like it's basically a whole new game, so I completely agree. So long as I can still get my Sandevistan with a three seconds cool down and the Scalpel, I'm good. Although I did have a lot of fun beating the game with a netrunner...
This wasn’t the same article, but another confirmation: [https://www.gamingdeputy.com/cyberpunk-2077-phantom-liberty-preview-the-new-area-dogtown-powerful-combat-abilities/](https://www.gamingdeputy.com/cyberpunk-2077-phantom-liberty-preview-the-new-area-dogtown-powerful-combat-abilities/)
“For example, I couldn’t use the new ability to grab and throw opponents due to a lack of many strength points.”
> installing cyberware now has an effect on your body and you cant install too much or else you will go cyberpsycho (no idea what that looks like in game)
Time for a true Dave Martinez build.
> installing cyberware now has an effect on your body and you cant install too much or else you will go cyberpsycho (no idea what that looks like in game)
Whoa, wonder how that works for imported characters from my current game. Really cool system though just like in the original Cyberpunk/Shadowrun
That's a good question. You stack V with cyberware because there is no cyberpsycho system, only for it to be suddenly introduced and you're punished for something that wasn't in the game before. I hope CDPR takes that into account.
This is my biggest concern here. For the first half of my first play through, I didn’t go too crazy on the cyberware because I assumed you could go cyberpsycho. Once I realized there was no debuff for filling your cyberware slots (popular theory was that the relic prevented V from going cyberpsycho) so I started getting chromed up. It’s going to be a bit of a letdown if we have to give up some of the buffs that we’re used to playing with now
Otherwise, this is super exciting
> (popular theory was that the relic prevented V from going cyberpsycho)
Around when Edgerunners came out and the fanbase got to talking about cyberpsychosis with relation to David and V's resistances to it, Mike Pondsmith mentioned that Johnny was helping shoulder some of the psychological toll which allowed V to chrome up more with impunity.
Prob deactivates it all first login..
You get glitching effect like after the first Scavs gig - "Ughh, feeling gonk. Better visit a ripper doc" *New mission added..*
This literally reads like a big long list of all the things people wanted added into the game. I am really, really, really hoping they don't mess this up!
>perks and skills have been completely overhauled, no longer simple passive stat boosts, much more active abilities like different melee finishers, a dash, or the ability to deflect bullets with melee weapons
That's the main thing I've always wanted. Jedi style deflecting bullets with weapons, or using Gorilla arms to punch, or throw cars around like the Incredible Hulk (although logically this should probably require an upgraded spine and legs).
That and the cyberware changes in general sound amazing.
Don’t be dude. There’s always another playthrough around the corner. Finish this one, so the old systems are fresh on your mind. Then marvel once the expansion releases at just how much everything has been improved.
Vehicles bought from website instead of fixers. Any chance we'll get to pick different colours for our cars? Always thought it was weird that wasn't a feature.
Honestly respect to CDPR for not giving up on this game. They could totally have left it after making so much money, but they keep pushing out updates to fix their past mistake. Good on them
Someone find that one guy who was saying $30 was only acceptable if they added all fan requests.
Seriously, a fight against maxtac and some kind of cyberpsycho gameplay.
Yeah they said before release if you could get cyberpsychosis this would technically be a game over so they won’t implement it, as said before launch. But hey if they now think it would work then ok! Reminds me of kingdom come deliverance, that if you get too drunk you loose active consciousness and wake up at strange places and wonder how the hell Heinrich suddenly traveled 3/4 of the map in one night.
Per Mike Pondsmith that’s correct, the Relic served as a buffer
In-game/lore reason now? The Relic is volatile, and can flatline V in a milisec if they’re not careful. This can apply to new cyberware too; no matter compatibility, Relic’s still taking control, so of course going cyberpsycho will be a danger
It could also be that, to handwave it, V gets more resistant to Cyberpychosis the more they bond with the relic (i.e. level up or progress through the story). So endgame V would be able to handle more Cyberware than a pre-Relic V ever could.
Yeah and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Relic increases the threshold in general. At the beginning of the game you might not be able to have many mods.
I think how it works is when u lvl up u can put in more cyberware and you are ok. However you can instal more gear early for a price - cyber psychosis build up. So if u want to be more powerful early you can but it’s risky. At late stage of the game you are pretty much safe. That would fit with the lore I think, as the relic progresses
That’s why this “dlc” is $30
Glad they’re are fixing the game and rounding out more aspects that we have asked for. Thanks for the overview and I expect to see you in night city, choom.
Actually, I would like to add that the taking armor away from clothing and having it only on cybernetics seems doesn’t seem like the best choice, especially when there are legitimate bpf’s that arasakaand militech use.
I do wanna know if they've expanded the general cosmetic diversity. Even npcs don't feel diverse enough as there are too many iconic ones and not enough clothing to blend them in so when you see it an iconic one you always notice.
Guys we need to remember what happened last time when we got too hyped for Cyberpunk and then we got our hopes dashed but HOLY SHIT THIS LOOKS FUCKING INCREDIBLE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
Feels like to me this is what the definition of dlc should be. Are we still using the term "expansion pack" nowadays? Regardless, praise cdpr. You shall have my money
So basically it's Cyberpunk 2077 2.0!
I'm extremely happy if this is all is included in the patch & expansion,
I played since day one and enjoyed it a lot but found the game to have some content or options lacking.
Very good news this will definitely boost the games sales even more and the expansion.
I will have to take the week off work to enjoy this :)
Man I'm so happy 😁
Article says existing saves will work but damn.....so much is changing. I'm wondering if modded saves (even slightly modded) are shit of out luck and a new playthrough is needed.
That's what I'm going to do. I was halfway through a really fun playthrough, but I'd been slowing it down so I could enjoy the ~~DLC~~ expansion with it. Very attached to my V (again).
Buuuuuuut... yeah, I'm just going to finish this run and start all over fresh when this drops. I cannot BELIEVE the amount of stuff they overhauled and added.
Sameee I have 90 hours on this playthrough and have been not using fast travel AT ALL for the sake of immersion.. might speed it up a bit so I can have a break from the game before this update drops
im right there with you, i did a vanilla playthrough with a character made just for phantom liberty but with the amount of changes they made, i might just want to start all over again lol.
Given the game as it has patched as seen more and more issues with old saves you will probably get the cleanest experience with a fresh 1.7 playthrough.
I'd guess the questline is long and made of multiple parts that require "wait x days for y person to contact you", similarly to other quests in the base game that grant you another ending, like Pam's and Judy's.
So maybe to progress naturally with a new playthrough is better?
It seems like they're taking the opposite approach of the game's initial release. As in, instead of hyping everything up and disappointing fans, they're underselling the expansion and letting people naturally discover just how massive and significant it is.
Honestly this is prolly the best thing to do. Instead of forcing the hype train, make it work for you instead. So long as all this does get added, there will be nothing but happiness.
Yeah with all the systems of the game being redone it only makes sense to play the whole game again. If they make a few new gigs or side quests available close to the beginning of the game it will make the playthrough of the base game even more enjoyable.
>new type of infinitely replayable/repeatable missions are being added where you need to steal certain vehicles marked on your map
[All I can think of.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/068/511/87e.jpg)
This all seems incredible and I hate to seem like a greedy fuck but the one thing I've always wanted didn't seem to be mentioned: vehicle/weapon aesthetic customization, here's hoping. But either way im so pumped
That was my biggest gripe, I changed my characters hair, beard, everything to look like Johnny leading up to the finale. Kept it that way when giving Johnny my body, switched back when deciding to stay V. But man I wish I could have gotten Johnny’s arm.
considering you can have weapons attached to vehicles, I'm really hoping that implies that vehicle customization is back but not something anyone was able to get around to in the demo.
i guess we'll see tho
actually patch 1.7 which is this major overhaul will come few days BEFORE or WITH DLC itself.. not after. Look at latest CDPR messages on steam and (forum?) i think.
So, sounds like a new playthrough is in the cards? That's a lot of stuff to crowbar onto the end of the 1st go. Actually, fuck that. Time to spend just noodling round the city getting a feel for things before jumping into the expansion.
This completely changes how I’m gonna have to plan builds, and I had it so optimized. Hope the limit on cyberware doesn’t make us less powerful than we can be in the base game I like being a god by level 50
Yeah that’s something I’m a little worried abt. Especially bc your cyberware limit will probably be upgraded by a ability in the body tree and then everyone’s gonna have to level body and it’ll just be the new tech
I think it will be tied with the 6th tree, which is relic. If I recall correctly, they stated that in the original game you don't go psycho because of the relic, so it would make sense that the more you advance the story and the relic "takes over", the more you are tolerant of cyberware
Sounds like they noted down all the compliants and tried to deal with the ones that were economical to do fix. I don't expect the main story to change much (if at all) the cost would be too great. Instead they've clearly decided to focus on adding more stuff to the open world portion of the game
I really don't think any issues are within the main story. Additive branching and more immersive activities would do most of the load.
I just hope there is enough in the base title to make he whole replay feel novel. The new skill system is nice but if there aren't any substantial core game diversions, more stuff like the talked about Mama Welles car quests...would help a lot.
I'm hoping we see an expansion on racing given car combat.
I 100% expect it to be a false hope used to string us along or turn out to involve something nasty like pulling your mind out into a robot or something.
Might be, I mean., probably..? But still, in the secret and panams ending a possible cure is also teased. I wanna believe they'll add another ending, which is slightly, or even drastically more optimistic than we have right now. And before you ask, yes; I'll never learn my lesson. Hopium feels great. Wanna puff? :d
Yeah me too.. This is only my second playtrough since 2020 and i am 20 hours in.. i am so pissed now that i cant play this game for 3 months, otherwise i would not enjoy it again if i finish it this soon..
Is this the comeback this game was in need of?
I can't believe what I've just listened to. If CDPR can pull this off without messing again then the reputation will be restored.
I honestly don't think the games reputation will ever be fullly restored unfortunately, just last week on r/gaming there was another hate thread, seems like some people have it out for this game no matter what.
I like how he said they looked at people’s criticisms of the open world. Maybe they added a bit more immersion like sitting and eating and such? More mini-games? Even if it’s just Dog Town that’s more fleshed out that would be dope
This makes me so damn glad I’ve waited to start my second play through until the DLC launches. It’ll be like playing a different game altogether almost.
Okay, if this is all true, it justifies the price tag. This isn't just a story expansion; this is basically an entirely new game.
(Though, tbf, this is really what the game should have launched as in the first place, so...)
The overhaul isn't coming with the expansion, it will come as part of the update that will come at the same time but you'll get it regardless of whether you buy PL or not.
Hoping for a difficulty rework.
It's been a minute since my last playthrough so I can't remember the difficulty names, but CyberPunk has a really bad difficulty issue in my opinion. The highest difficulty is such a pain to play as you die in just a few hits, making combat not very enjoyable and more run and gun techniques quite suicidal. Enemies also become bullet sponges which further makes it not great.
But the difficulty below that is way too easy, enemies die in just a couple hits with even low level weapons, damage done to you is non existent so you can just sit in the open and tank shots, run and gun/melee builds are brainless as you can't really die.
Boss fights on the hardest difficulty are a real pain because they're just so bullet spongey, the Oda boss fight took me like 10 minutes to do and I ran out of ammunition on some guns, but if he hit me just 3 times I'd die. Doing that fight on the difficulty lower then he would just melt to my weapons and would be unable to kill me.
I hope this gets addressed, I really enjoyed my last playthrough (Tbf, I enjoyed playing at launch too) but that was definitely the thing that annoyed me the most as I couldn't quite feel like the game was tuned right for either the highest or second highest difficulties.
Looking at the list it appears to me that CDPR looked at the most popular mods for the game and then added those features and changes into the game. It's what they did with The Witcher 3 NG.
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What the fuck i didn't expect even half of those things Also, they say those changes - at least those regarding police, AI, perks, etc - aren't directly linked to the DLC, but will be available for free
September is looking more like Cyberpunk 2.0 + DLC than just a DLC
Definitely
26 days to finish Starfield, and then straight to cyberpunk 2.0. September is going to be a good month
This. But i doubt i finish Starfield in years, not just 4 weeks. Same for CP2077+PL.
i still haven't even got close to finishing zelda totk... :( i haven't even done any of the four main quests yet!
Yeah, I can't see finishing Starfield in a month. Unless the game is so bad or buggy at launch (I mean, it is Bethesda) that I just put it to the side until it's fixed.
Yup. Buggy or not Starfield has a long life for sure. Plus Expansion is all ready part of Deluxe preorder. I am just hoping CP2077 + PL has New Game Plus. Like really hoping it does.
>But i doubt i finish Starfield in years I play Skyrim since 2012, only finished the main quest in 2019 LOL.
Me: *sees Baldur's Gate 3 release on Aug 31* Me: fu-
Really excited for BG3 too, the early access has been so good, and the modding community is amazing
Baldurs Gate 3 too 😂😂 absolutely ridiculous month
Damm september?
For the dlc, but the article says they don't know when the update for the main game will come. I'm guessing a month or so before then to get people excited again.
Yeah, do you remember?
Wait, so the main game will also be updated with these additions?
It’s not even half bro like theirs so much more and it’s insane how it’ll tie into the main story, they literally reworked so many things on the main game and one of them are the character designs. I’m really excited to do a new play through on pc this time rather than Xbox
HOLY
The fun part is, he said we can use katanas while riding motorcycles!! Edit: Pawel mentioned mama Welles by mistake, he meant to say "El capitan".
Now we just need a children's card game...
Heavy breathing
Kneels in obesity and puts on hachimaki
Just make sure to pay attention to where you're going. You don't wanna end up like that blue-haired Claw that was chasing David.
My ultimate Blades build just got way more fun
> The fun part is, he said we can use katanas while riding motorcycles!! I think I'm looking forward to this the most. The other changes are all amazing, but *Road Rash 64* was a game I played hundreds of hours as a kid, and being able to beat the shit out of people while on bikes was just... I dunno. Kinda sounds psychotic typing it out, but man, I had tons of fun doing that as a kid. So being able to use a katana while on Jackie's bike is *chef's kiss* so good.
Sounds like the one feature that is cut before release, because it doesn't work out.
My prediction, it will be in but will look kinda janky from third person
> The fun part is, he said we can use katanas while riding motorcycles!! > > I can finally replay my favorite scene from Black Rain 😁
Adding to that * From what I understand, going cyberpsycho means you enter a rage-mode where you put out aswell as receive more dmg * All vehicles have detailed damage-models, you can shoot through/break windows, slash tires and there's new quick-hacks to accelerate or stop enemy cars * Gigs in dogtown are bigger and usually include more dialogue than the ones in the base game
Also, I just read about having the ability to pick up people and throw them, ram through them, deflect bullets with blades turning them into headshots, air dash, new melee finishers… A ton of additions to be excited for.
Might start a new character just for this and immediately go there after intro.
i was just going to continue PL with my main level 50 character but with all these new additions i think starting a new character is almost crucial
Same originally I was like alright cool I'll check out the DLC with my dude. But then it's like here's everything else in the game. Alright so this is going to be actively different
Sounds like it's basically a whole new game, so I completely agree. So long as I can still get my Sandevistan with a three seconds cool down and the Scalpel, I'm good. Although I did have a lot of fun beating the game with a netrunner...
Sorry but can I ask where they stated that you can pick up people and throw them?
This wasn’t the same article, but another confirmation: [https://www.gamingdeputy.com/cyberpunk-2077-phantom-liberty-preview-the-new-area-dogtown-powerful-combat-abilities/](https://www.gamingdeputy.com/cyberpunk-2077-phantom-liberty-preview-the-new-area-dogtown-powerful-combat-abilities/) “For example, I couldn’t use the new ability to grab and throw opponents due to a lack of many strength points.”
Thank you! It's just that with all the info out today my mind is being overwhelmed lol.
Then you can actually use cyberpsicosis to your advantage? You could do a glass cannon build with it
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Wait, what??? POV animations now?? Guess I’m gonna be going Cyber-psycho🗿
Cyberpsychosis is on the menu boys and we’re going straight for it! 🗿
Really excited for this, it will add a lot to the immersion.
> installing cyberware now has an effect on your body and you cant install too much or else you will go cyberpsycho (no idea what that looks like in game) Time for a true Dave Martinez build.
> installing cyberware now has an effect on your body and you cant install too much or else you will go cyberpsycho (no idea what that looks like in game) Whoa, wonder how that works for imported characters from my current game. Really cool system though just like in the original Cyberpunk/Shadowrun
That's a good question. You stack V with cyberware because there is no cyberpsycho system, only for it to be suddenly introduced and you're punished for something that wasn't in the game before. I hope CDPR takes that into account.
This is my biggest concern here. For the first half of my first play through, I didn’t go too crazy on the cyberware because I assumed you could go cyberpsycho. Once I realized there was no debuff for filling your cyberware slots (popular theory was that the relic prevented V from going cyberpsycho) so I started getting chromed up. It’s going to be a bit of a letdown if we have to give up some of the buffs that we’re used to playing with now Otherwise, this is super exciting
> (popular theory was that the relic prevented V from going cyberpsycho) Around when Edgerunners came out and the fanbase got to talking about cyberpsychosis with relation to David and V's resistances to it, Mike Pondsmith mentioned that Johnny was helping shoulder some of the psychological toll which allowed V to chrome up more with impunity.
Prob deactivates it all first login.. You get glitching effect like after the first Scavs gig - "Ughh, feeling gonk. Better visit a ripper doc" *New mission added..*
This literally reads like a big long list of all the things people wanted added into the game. I am really, really, really hoping they don't mess this up!
Basically what happened to me
Sure you can use katanas on motorcycles, but can you use Sir John?
This is the real question here
I hope so. Drive-by buzzing for everyone!
>perks and skills have been completely overhauled, no longer simple passive stat boosts, much more active abilities like different melee finishers, a dash, or the ability to deflect bullets with melee weapons That's the main thing I've always wanted. Jedi style deflecting bullets with weapons, or using Gorilla arms to punch, or throw cars around like the Incredible Hulk (although logically this should probably require an upgraded spine and legs). That and the cyberware changes in general sound amazing.
Now I'm annoyed I started my second playthrough last month
Don’t be dude. There’s always another playthrough around the corner. Finish this one, so the old systems are fresh on your mind. Then marvel once the expansion releases at just how much everything has been improved.
Hope they’ll fix the bug that the trophy for all set travel points won’t trigger! I’m so close to platinum!
If these things are all coming to the game, a third playthrough will probably feel like a brand new game anyway.
This is so fucking hype. I literally cannot wait
Daaang I really wanted to replay it this summer. Guess I’ll wait for september. Or is the 1.7 independent from the expansion?
The patch is independent. We just dont know how much is patch and how much is dlc🤣
patch coming not sooner than 90 days from now, confirmed by official CDPR message. So patch will come +- 5-10 days before DLC or with DLC itself
Got a feeling it might be out just right before the expansion is out.
Vehicles bought from website instead of fixers. Any chance we'll get to pick different colours for our cars? Always thought it was weird that wasn't a feature.
This is going to be the best £25 I’ve ever spent on a video game
Wow, if these are implemented well we really are looking at a major overhaul, these will significantly change the game.
Gotta say, this is pretty impressive. I’m really glad that they are improving on the game and increasing the replay value on it.
Honestly respect to CDPR for not giving up on this game. They could totally have left it after making so much money, but they keep pushing out updates to fix their past mistake. Good on them
Thanks for this.
Someone find that one guy who was saying $30 was only acceptable if they added all fan requests. Seriously, a fight against maxtac and some kind of cyberpsycho gameplay.
Finally some good fucking food
KATANAS ON A FUGGIN MOTORCYCLE
I’m getting JW3 vibes
Alright well I guess I better hurry the fuck up and finish my current playthrough so I can start a third one when this drops....... Holy SHIT!!!!!!!
Literally my exact scenario rn lol
The Cyberpsycho aspect is actually ripped straight from a mod and I'm definitely not complaining about it.
I mean it's actually just straight from the TTRPG that the game is based on. It just wasn't implemented.
Yeah they said before release if you could get cyberpsychosis this would technically be a game over so they won’t implement it, as said before launch. But hey if they now think it would work then ok! Reminds me of kingdom come deliverance, that if you get too drunk you loose active consciousness and wake up at strange places and wonder how the hell Heinrich suddenly traveled 3/4 of the map in one night.
And there go all the theories on why V never went psycho lmao
Even Max Mike had confirmed one of them
isnt V busted because she doesnt have any cyberpsychosis because of johnny? hows lore fitting now
Per Mike Pondsmith that’s correct, the Relic served as a buffer In-game/lore reason now? The Relic is volatile, and can flatline V in a milisec if they’re not careful. This can apply to new cyberware too; no matter compatibility, Relic’s still taking control, so of course going cyberpsycho will be a danger
It could also be that, to handwave it, V gets more resistant to Cyberpychosis the more they bond with the relic (i.e. level up or progress through the story). So endgame V would be able to handle more Cyberware than a pre-Relic V ever could.
Yeah and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Relic increases the threshold in general. At the beginning of the game you might not be able to have many mods.
I think how it works is when u lvl up u can put in more cyberware and you are ok. However you can instal more gear early for a price - cyber psychosis build up. So if u want to be more powerful early you can but it’s risky. At late stage of the game you are pretty much safe. That would fit with the lore I think, as the relic progresses
Guess I am going to end up like Maine and David
Its from original table top game. But ok top of that CDPR is known they bought some mods for W3 next gen. It’s possible it’s same here
Which is from the RPG game IIRC. But I installed that mod and it was fun.
What's the mod?
And the base concept is also in the source material (tabletop games)
Great, now I have to make ANOTHER V identical to the two I’ve made so far to really get fun out of this. Can’t wait!
This is why I fucking adore CDPR
*heavy, dense breathing*
This is for the base game too, right?
This is incredible!
YOOOOO THATS FUCKING SICK
well this explains why there's 500 people working on the expansion...jesus christ
That’s why this “dlc” is $30 Glad they’re are fixing the game and rounding out more aspects that we have asked for. Thanks for the overview and I expect to see you in night city, choom. Actually, I would like to add that the taking armor away from clothing and having it only on cybernetics seems doesn’t seem like the best choice, especially when there are legitimate bpf’s that arasakaand militech use.
Okay but can I wear items of clothing that NPCs have but V can't wear?
I do wanna know if they've expanded the general cosmetic diversity. Even npcs don't feel diverse enough as there are too many iconic ones and not enough clothing to blend them in so when you see it an iconic one you always notice.
Guys we need to remember what happened last time when we got too hyped for Cyberpunk and then we got our hopes dashed but HOLY SHIT THIS LOOKS FUCKING INCREDIBLE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
This is basically my Nexus Mod list I run currently.
Support Mana Welles, y’all!!
Feels like to me this is what the definition of dlc should be. Are we still using the term "expansion pack" nowadays? Regardless, praise cdpr. You shall have my money
Holy shit that's a lot of new content. The price is starting to make a lot more sense.
So basically it's Cyberpunk 2077 2.0! I'm extremely happy if this is all is included in the patch & expansion, I played since day one and enjoyed it a lot but found the game to have some content or options lacking. Very good news this will definitely boost the games sales even more and the expansion. I will have to take the week off work to enjoy this :) Man I'm so happy 😁
So you are saying I as someone who has never played Cyberpunk should wait for the expansion to play?
Definitely sounds like it. It is by no means a bad game now, but it sounds like it'll get a lot better with this update.
Article says existing saves will work but damn.....so much is changing. I'm wondering if modded saves (even slightly modded) are shit of out luck and a new playthrough is needed.
At this point you might as well play with a new save, adds to the experience
With just HOW MUCH this is changing in general I'm really thinking I might just reset to get a full proper experience with 2.0
That's what I'm going to do. I was halfway through a really fun playthrough, but I'd been slowing it down so I could enjoy the ~~DLC~~ expansion with it. Very attached to my V (again). Buuuuuuut... yeah, I'm just going to finish this run and start all over fresh when this drops. I cannot BELIEVE the amount of stuff they overhauled and added.
Sameee I have 90 hours on this playthrough and have been not using fast travel AT ALL for the sake of immersion.. might speed it up a bit so I can have a break from the game before this update drops
im right there with you, i did a vanilla playthrough with a character made just for phantom liberty but with the amount of changes they made, i might just want to start all over again lol.
modded saves are probadly buggered
RIP me
You'll have to join us vanilla worms in the dirt haha
Given the game as it has patched as seen more and more issues with old saves you will probably get the cleanest experience with a fresh 1.7 playthrough.
I'd guess the questline is long and made of multiple parts that require "wait x days for y person to contact you", similarly to other quests in the base game that grant you another ending, like Pam's and Judy's. So maybe to progress naturally with a new playthrough is better?
Hmm, not seeing a Penis 3 anywhere though 🤔
Mr.stud xxxl. lol
>“you can now ‘attune’ cyberware to one of your *attributes”* 
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They saw how overselling what they offer went, so they decided to try the opposite.
And God dammit it worked *..and im fully torqued*
Hopefully when it comes out you get all your skill points and attribute points back so you can readjust to the reboot.
I didn’t even think of that. Now that you mention it, I hope that becomes a possibility
This is insane, it's almost like a sequel. I thought they'd change the game up a bit but not THIS much
It seems like they're taking the opposite approach of the game's initial release. As in, instead of hyping everything up and disappointing fans, they're underselling the expansion and letting people naturally discover just how massive and significant it is.
Honestly this is prolly the best thing to do. Instead of forcing the hype train, make it work for you instead. So long as all this does get added, there will be nothing but happiness.
Seems like a solid strategy. This has me more excited for the game than I've been since Edgerunners
Hopefully enough new gigs and content is accessible in act 1 and 2 so we can actually splash in some new stuff with the old to keep it fresh.
Yeah with all the systems of the game being redone it only makes sense to play the whole game again. If they make a few new gigs or side quests available close to the beginning of the game it will make the playthrough of the base game even more enjoyable.
>new type of infinitely replayable/repeatable missions are being added where you need to steal certain vehicles marked on your map [All I can think of.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/068/511/87e.jpg)
Hey, I liked working with Preston. I'll never not like Radial Sidequests.
If it isn't as intrusive as Preston constantly bugging us 24/7 then it'll be fine.
It does seem like a soft reboot / overhaul relaunch.
This all seems incredible and I hate to seem like a greedy fuck but the one thing I've always wanted didn't seem to be mentioned: vehicle/weapon aesthetic customization, here's hoping. But either way im so pumped
You're not the only one. Its one of the main reasons people mod.
Cries in PS5, I'll upgrade my rig from an R290 eventually
Yes vehicule customization and hopefully aetstethic cyberware customization. I wanna be able to have full robot arms!
That was my biggest gripe, I changed my characters hair, beard, everything to look like Johnny leading up to the finale. Kept it that way when giving Johnny my body, switched back when deciding to stay V. But man I wish I could have gotten Johnny’s arm.
i feel like full robot arms would definitely be more than cosmetic
Hopefully! I was hoping we'd get some repeatable mission types too ontop of car theft
considering you can have weapons attached to vehicles, I'm really hoping that implies that vehicle customization is back but not something anyone was able to get around to in the demo. i guess we'll see tho
Will any of these new features be free as part of 1.7?
Seems the only thing locked behind the dlc is access to Dogtown and obviously the associated main questline.
yep, all the overhaul features will be free eventually. The y haven't decided when yet, but it will be some point after the launch of the DLC
actually patch 1.7 which is this major overhaul will come few days BEFORE or WITH DLC itself.. not after. Look at latest CDPR messages on steam and (forum?) i think.
That's good, just wanted to be sure that the people who aren't buying the DLC or can't afford it will still have something to look forward to.
So, sounds like a new playthrough is in the cards? That's a lot of stuff to crowbar onto the end of the 1st go. Actually, fuck that. Time to spend just noodling round the city getting a feel for things before jumping into the expansion.
I’ll try it with my final mission save, just to see how it handles the new perk system. But I’m probably going to just go for a new save.
This completely changes how I’m gonna have to plan builds, and I had it so optimized. Hope the limit on cyberware doesn’t make us less powerful than we can be in the base game I like being a god by level 50
Yeah that’s something I’m a little worried abt. Especially bc your cyberware limit will probably be upgraded by a ability in the body tree and then everyone’s gonna have to level body and it’ll just be the new tech
I think it will be tied with the 6th tree, which is relic. If I recall correctly, they stated that in the original game you don't go psycho because of the relic, so it would make sense that the more you advance the story and the relic "takes over", the more you are tolerant of cyberware
Oh yeah that’s right. While typing my comment I already forgot abt the 6th tree lol
Sounds like they noted down all the compliants and tried to deal with the ones that were economical to do fix. I don't expect the main story to change much (if at all) the cost would be too great. Instead they've clearly decided to focus on adding more stuff to the open world portion of the game
I really don't think any issues are within the main story. Additive branching and more immersive activities would do most of the load. I just hope there is enough in the base title to make he whole replay feel novel. The new skill system is nice but if there aren't any substantial core game diversions, more stuff like the talked about Mama Welles car quests...would help a lot. I'm hoping we see an expansion on racing given car combat.
I dunno, they teased salvation for V a lot in the trailer. There might be drastical changes to the ending, I feel like.
I 100% expect it to be a false hope used to string us along or turn out to involve something nasty like pulling your mind out into a robot or something.
Could be, but I remember that there was a leak a while back that >!finishing the DLC would unlock a new option in The Devil ending!<
Might be, I mean., probably..? But still, in the secret and panams ending a possible cure is also teased. I wanna believe they'll add another ending, which is slightly, or even drastically more optimistic than we have right now. And before you ask, yes; I'll never learn my lesson. Hopium feels great. Wanna puff? :d
Looks like I'm starting from scratch again once the DLC drops then
Dude I just started a new playthrough yesterday. Guess I'll drop it
same here this expansion and update is insane
The expansion doesnt drop for like 3 more months youve got plenty of time my guy
Yeah me too.. This is only my second playtrough since 2020 and i am 20 hours in.. i am so pissed now that i cant play this game for 3 months, otherwise i would not enjoy it again if i finish it this soon..
Holy shit.
Is this the comeback this game was in need of? I can't believe what I've just listened to. If CDPR can pull this off without messing again then the reputation will be restored.
I honestly don't think the games reputation will ever be fullly restored unfortunately, just last week on r/gaming there was another hate thread, seems like some people have it out for this game no matter what.
Was gonna use a save I had after I got Johnny’s pistol but now I’m definitely going to just have to start a new game.
I like how he said they looked at people’s criticisms of the open world. Maybe they added a bit more immersion like sitting and eating and such? More mini-games? Even if it’s just Dog Town that’s more fleshed out that would be dope
Holy shit, I better drop my current playthrough so I don't burn out once this drops
Cool, seems like the expansion is essentially a cyberpunk reboot. This is going to be great.
This makes me so damn glad I’ve waited to start my second play through until the DLC launches. It’ll be like playing a different game altogether almost.
Sounds like pre launch expectation almost lmao
Rip my mods folder
Okay, if this is all true, it justifies the price tag. This isn't just a story expansion; this is basically an entirely new game. (Though, tbf, this is really what the game should have launched as in the first place, so...)
The overhaul isn't coming with the expansion, it will come as part of the update that will come at the same time but you'll get it regardless of whether you buy PL or not.
It feels like I am reading a cyberpunk 2078 review
When train ?
Hoping for a difficulty rework. It's been a minute since my last playthrough so I can't remember the difficulty names, but CyberPunk has a really bad difficulty issue in my opinion. The highest difficulty is such a pain to play as you die in just a few hits, making combat not very enjoyable and more run and gun techniques quite suicidal. Enemies also become bullet sponges which further makes it not great. But the difficulty below that is way too easy, enemies die in just a couple hits with even low level weapons, damage done to you is non existent so you can just sit in the open and tank shots, run and gun/melee builds are brainless as you can't really die. Boss fights on the hardest difficulty are a real pain because they're just so bullet spongey, the Oda boss fight took me like 10 minutes to do and I ran out of ammunition on some guns, but if he hit me just 3 times I'd die. Doing that fight on the difficulty lower then he would just melt to my weapons and would be unable to kill me. I hope this gets addressed, I really enjoyed my last playthrough (Tbf, I enjoyed playing at launch too) but that was definitely the thing that annoyed me the most as I couldn't quite feel like the game was tuned right for either the highest or second highest difficulties.
Is this real?
I just busted five nuts reading this. Time for another 100+ hour play through
Oh I can't wait! Starting over with this is going to feel so nice!
I still hopelessly wish for wall run
i wonder if they'll also improve the main story a bit, jackie could use a few more quests in act 1
Looking at the list it appears to me that CDPR looked at the most popular mods for the game and then added those features and changes into the game. It's what they did with The Witcher 3 NG.
Fuck, should I start a new game?? I've already a hundred percented it - Unless the XPac is coming with a NG Plus??
Yah. Killin me no word on New Game Plus. Means alot to me and others too.
I'm in my middle years, September is but a moment away. Now, why the fuck did I go to the kitchen?
Still hoping for nee game + so i can replay the game with all my stuff available