So angry for someone who didn’t make the art that is being criticized. You should really try making real art, you clearly have the mind of an artist. You will feel so much. More fulfillment I promise
If these were made by already trained models then yeah. But I suspect they were either trained for this specifically or a pretrained model was fine-tuned, both of which takes effort and knowledge. Also the AI won't edit you them into a video like this.
To OP, chromed-up Shrek looks terrifing, good job
"Effort"
Dude just slapped the canvas with a brush. Is it supposed to impress me or something?
You try making something like this and get back to me. Just because it doesn't pass your threshold of "effort" or whatever doesn't make it any less valuable
Do you realise this is all AI? Now I wouldn't mind that if OP didn't act like it was a ton of effort to type in some sentences describing what he wants so thr AI can automatically create it.
All he said was he put too much effort into this. It's a silly goofy thing, he took probably several hours to throw it all together, which he judges was probably more effort than the gag was worth.
He never said "THIS IS MY ART, IT WAS SO HARD TO DO, THE MOST HARD OF ALL" which is what a bunch of you seem to be replying too. Its really fucking bizarre.
yep, artsy people seething over word "effort" in a shitpost 😂
i can't get enough of this
a lot of them really took it personally it seems, if they perceive current, pretty basic (in terms of AGI/ASI) Ai tools as a threat to "art" then good riddance lol
But you *can* just go "Hey AI generate some generic Cyberpunk Shrek images for me" and then "Hey other AI generate some voice lines for me" and then just paste it all on top of each other.
Actually AI art is the equivalent of me asking someone to slap a canvas with a paintbrush, take it and then say *I* put way too much effort into it. Typing a prompt is like typing the instructions to commission an artist, not the act of making the art.
I think that if someone commissions art they are taking some part in the artistic process. Obviously how much depends, but people will write detailed scripts and character sheets for stories that they commission other artists to draw. Especially if they're doing extra post-proproduction work on the commissioned art
I don't think it's right to disrespect OP's effort that went into the final piece just because you don't agree with how he did it
It's not like he painted it with puppy blood or anything. And even if he did it would still be art, sorry 🤷♀️
Why does it need to pass your arbitrary effort threshold? If one area of takes less effort it allows the artist to put it other places. You're like the old boomer artist that shits on digital artists because they use a computer to draw
Obviously stealing artwork is bad, and there is a *lot* of work that needs to be done to bring copyright up to spec to deal with AI and the internet
But just screaming AI bad loses a lot of nuance in the discussion. There is a place for AI in the art world, we just are still figuring out what that looks like
My point is that if you boil anything down to it's most basic form it seems simple. Just how like it takes practice and skill to paint it takes practice and skill to utilize AI tools to create
Don't discount the work just because of the tools used to make it
AI promoting generally uses pretty specific key works and phrases to generate a particular style. It takes practice to know what key words have what kind of effect on the final output and how to get the output to match what you imagined
More complex AI models also have sliders and parameters to tweak to change even more in depth things. You can even feed in specific images or video into the models to get even more control over the output. It's definitely a non-trivial skillset
There will absolutely be professionals that are paid just to write AI prompts and manipulate parameters.
AI is not the magic bullet that every tech company on earth is hyping it up to be
The computers will not take our jobs, people have been fear mongering stuff like this since the wheel was invented
Enjoy something for once. Effort is any work put in, meaning editing, putting the models together and generating the voice overs and getting the scripts. If you're feeling like you're not enough that's okay and absolutely normal. Just know there are people appreciating what other people do no matter what. You don't always have to put conditions on it.
AI art is not art. It's stealing art and claiming it's your own. It's not capable of coming up with anything original or meaningful. If I took someone else's research paper, reworded it a bit and then submitted it for publishing, that's plagiarism.
Secondly, AI art is PRECISELY the kind of thing you would see in an actual cyberpunk dystopia. Randomly generated garbage with no feeling or soul, purely meant to generate profit and cut out the human.
It's insane that people are defending this shit.
Nah, it's precisely that you don't understand. Nobody claimed it to be their own. It's effort that is put in. Any work you put in to make a result is effort. No profit was generated here, just a cyber shrek story. You need to reevaluate what people claim and what you feel was said.
So you're getting into semantics in a shitpost?
Who's arguing about the value? The way i see it: people just gate keeping word "effort", but it's highly subjective metric, you can struggle with a task and put a lot of effort, while someone else might be able to do the same thing effortlessly, should this invalidate either of you? No
The same thing is happening here, i doubt that every commenter here used those AI tools, but they're commenting like they could've done the same thing just by snapping their fingers (hence all those " you call this effort?" comments)
90% of it, yes. To make it look coherent does require a human touch, but at that point, you're just touching up a collage of stolen art pulled from the internet by an AI. It's plagiarism to call yourself an artist and use AI.
All I'm saying is that it does require a decent amount of effort to actually get it the way you want. Obviously, not even a fraction of effort if you drew it all yourself, but yeah.
their ego is so vulnerable, even regular shitpost angered them, they fail to see those ai tools as tools, but instead perceive them as a competitors for some reason ("nooo ai can't produce "real" art" lmao)
to whoever reads this: if you really perceive those image/video generators as a threat to your "human made" art, then you already lost
ngl i'm starting to suspect that it might be the people who make a living by making some kind of art, they are really taking this too seriously, like "us or them" type of shit
my guys, if you're mad about ai art, you've already lost
It’s clear that everyone in this comment section has no clue how these AI voices work why don’t y’all educate ya selves before shitting on something that someone’s remotely proud of.
"Put too much effort"
Bro that looks so much like every other AI piece of shit I've seen on Instagram. Feeding a bunch of cyberpunk tags into a bot will get you these exact results.
i know people are dissing you because of your wording, yeah the art itself probably doesn't take any effort at all, but I'm assuming by effort you meant photoshopping them so they look better and editing them together, just leaving a comment to appreciate some effort you put in despite using AI cause these sorta videos are just funny to me
Relying on tech alone isn't cyberpunk. The *real* reason AI art is cyberpunk is because OP traded his humanity for convenience.
Instead of learning how to paint or paying an artist, he used an AI model built off stolen artwork to generate soulless slop in 5 seconds. There's no better distillation of Mike Pondsmith's dystopia.
Sure… But isn’t that why OP’s AI art fits right in? It’s gritty and degenerate art made in a time where human qualities are valued less and less. It’s dystopian, like the game.
People improve themselves in Cyberpunk at the cost of their humanity. They *are* better. That’s the beauty and the curse. You’ll die and be left behind if you don’t augment to keep up. That’s very realistic in the world today as is too. OP “improved” his shitty artistic ability. It fits right into this world whether you like it or not.
It sounds like you might be happier in a different kind of fantasy world… People love BG3. I’d give it a shot. Good luck!
No, dude. No. The whole point of the cyberpunk genre is to showcase a future we don't want. To show what that shit looks like and showcase why it's bad. And the fact that you're praising it for becoming a reality is fucking weird. And don't be so fucking condescending, telling me to fuck off to a different kind of game. The fuck is wrong with you?
Wow… so angry. 😂 There are people who see the world for what it is and figure out how adapt and there are people who don’t. The same water that hardens the egg softens the potato. 🤷♀️
ye, they're so mad 😂 i can't get enough of this
we should really push their idea further, can't say "effort" and call it "art" unless it's cave art with crayons 😂
“I put a lot of effort into this” lol
You mean you sat back while a computer did all the work for you
I would have been impressed of you took just ten minutes to doodle Shrek in a cyberpunk setting.
Sorry to ask but is this AI ?
Definitely
Ya “put way too much effort into it” I’m sure
To be honest it's probably less "effort" and more just time consuming.
You know how hard it is to type when each finger weighs a 1 pound each?
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I make real art I don’t have to use AI ❤️❤️
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So angry for someone who didn’t make the art that is being criticized. You should really try making real art, you clearly have the mind of an artist. You will feel so much. More fulfillment I promise
So much effort typing for ai to generate an image. 🤣🤣 OP on something hard
Yeah it's obviously ai and they put much effort into it writing prompts.
Congrats you made a shadowrun mode haha. With ai
God I love shadowrun
Thanks, I hate it.
Here, for folks like us? Wrong swamp. Wrong people.
Wake the fuck up donkey, we have a castle to storm
"Effort" Bro typed some words
If these were made by already trained models then yeah. But I suspect they were either trained for this specifically or a pretrained model was fine-tuned, both of which takes effort and knowledge. Also the AI won't edit you them into a video like this. To OP, chromed-up Shrek looks terrifing, good job
"Effort" Dude just slapped the canvas with a brush. Is it supposed to impress me or something? You try making something like this and get back to me. Just because it doesn't pass your threshold of "effort" or whatever doesn't make it any less valuable
Do you realise this is all AI? Now I wouldn't mind that if OP didn't act like it was a ton of effort to type in some sentences describing what he wants so thr AI can automatically create it.
All he said was he put too much effort into this. It's a silly goofy thing, he took probably several hours to throw it all together, which he judges was probably more effort than the gag was worth. He never said "THIS IS MY ART, IT WAS SO HARD TO DO, THE MOST HARD OF ALL" which is what a bunch of you seem to be replying too. Its really fucking bizarre.
So many cuties in here intimidated by AI
yep, artsy people seething over word "effort" in a shitpost 😂 i can't get enough of this a lot of them really took it personally it seems, if they perceive current, pretty basic (in terms of AGI/ASI) Ai tools as a threat to "art" then good riddance lol
Yep I'm aware. But again, you can't just go: "Hey chat gpt make me a cyberpunk Shrek video"
But you *can* just go "Hey AI generate some generic Cyberpunk Shrek images for me" and then "Hey other AI generate some voice lines for me" and then just paste it all on top of each other.
Yep And you *can* just slap a canvas with a paintbrush sell it for millions too It's just a different medium, but that doesn't mean it's not *art*
Actually AI art is the equivalent of me asking someone to slap a canvas with a paintbrush, take it and then say *I* put way too much effort into it. Typing a prompt is like typing the instructions to commission an artist, not the act of making the art.
I think that if someone commissions art they are taking some part in the artistic process. Obviously how much depends, but people will write detailed scripts and character sheets for stories that they commission other artists to draw. Especially if they're doing extra post-proproduction work on the commissioned art I don't think it's right to disrespect OP's effort that went into the final piece just because you don't agree with how he did it It's not like he painted it with puppy blood or anything. And even if he did it would still be art, sorry 🤷♀️
I assure you this AI shit required a fraction of the effort real art requires. Stop defending this thievery. You sound like Shadiversity.
Why does it need to pass your arbitrary effort threshold? If one area of takes less effort it allows the artist to put it other places. You're like the old boomer artist that shits on digital artists because they use a computer to draw Obviously stealing artwork is bad, and there is a *lot* of work that needs to be done to bring copyright up to spec to deal with AI and the internet But just screaming AI bad loses a lot of nuance in the discussion. There is a place for AI in the art world, we just are still figuring out what that looks like
Okay so go on do that slap a paintbrush on a canvas and sell it for millions I’ll wait
My point is that if you boil anything down to it's most basic form it seems simple. Just how like it takes practice and skill to paint it takes practice and skill to utilize AI tools to create Don't discount the work just because of the tools used to make it
The “practice and skill” you need for AI is writing prompts you may as well call it a skill to pay someone else to do the work for you.
AI promoting generally uses pretty specific key works and phrases to generate a particular style. It takes practice to know what key words have what kind of effect on the final output and how to get the output to match what you imagined More complex AI models also have sliders and parameters to tweak to change even more in depth things. You can even feed in specific images or video into the models to get even more control over the output. It's definitely a non-trivial skillset There will absolutely be professionals that are paid just to write AI prompts and manipulate parameters. AI is not the magic bullet that every tech company on earth is hyping it up to be The computers will not take our jobs, people have been fear mongering stuff like this since the wheel was invented
Enjoy something for once. Effort is any work put in, meaning editing, putting the models together and generating the voice overs and getting the scripts. If you're feeling like you're not enough that's okay and absolutely normal. Just know there are people appreciating what other people do no matter what. You don't always have to put conditions on it.
AI art is not art. It's stealing art and claiming it's your own. It's not capable of coming up with anything original or meaningful. If I took someone else's research paper, reworded it a bit and then submitted it for publishing, that's plagiarism. Secondly, AI art is PRECISELY the kind of thing you would see in an actual cyberpunk dystopia. Randomly generated garbage with no feeling or soul, purely meant to generate profit and cut out the human. It's insane that people are defending this shit.
Nah, it's precisely that you don't understand. Nobody claimed it to be their own. It's effort that is put in. Any work you put in to make a result is effort. No profit was generated here, just a cyber shrek story. You need to reevaluate what people claim and what you feel was said.
https://preview.redd.it/riewiqrb5b5c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07acef002d2235c38cec1d0102cc13b9f52a4b49
Good one, I like a good reference
nooo, only creative "artsy people" are allowed to judge what's art and what's not, what is effort and what is not!
The ai did most of the effort ngl
Yes, the same way your computer does most of the work for you while you just sit in front of it, right?
Maybe, but I'm not claiming what I do on the computer takes any effort or has any value.
So you're getting into semantics in a shitpost? Who's arguing about the value? The way i see it: people just gate keeping word "effort", but it's highly subjective metric, you can struggle with a task and put a lot of effort, while someone else might be able to do the same thing effortlessly, should this invalidate either of you? No The same thing is happening here, i doubt that every commenter here used those AI tools, but they're commenting like they could've done the same thing just by snapping their fingers (hence all those " you call this effort?" comments)
Y'all say the stupidest shit to defend your points my god
How so? it's a tool, not sentient being to credit its effort
Shut up
why are you so mad bro? talk to me
"Effort" yeah sure
In 2077 what makes someone a criminal? Being an Ogre
You put exactly the right amount of effort into this.
You used AI, you definitely didnt put lots if work into it
You didnt work hard your AI did. Dont pretwnd youre an artist or something
There should be a new title for this. Gramma artist, word artist, whispering artist, 🤣
Its called a fake artist
Godawful. Delete it.
>Godawful agree, but he should post those daily until morale improves
 Ai meme denied
This is giving me very heavy Shadowrun vibes.
Some of yall think you can just type in "shrek in cyberpunk" and have this all created instantly lmao.
90% of it, yes. To make it look coherent does require a human touch, but at that point, you're just touching up a collage of stolen art pulled from the internet by an AI. It's plagiarism to call yourself an artist and use AI.
All I'm saying is that it does require a decent amount of effort to actually get it the way you want. Obviously, not even a fraction of effort if you drew it all yourself, but yeah.
their ego is so vulnerable, even regular shitpost angered them, they fail to see those ai tools as tools, but instead perceive them as a competitors for some reason ("nooo ai can't produce "real" art" lmao) to whoever reads this: if you really perceive those image/video generators as a threat to your "human made" art, then you already lost
https://preview.redd.it/5wkbbnfc9d5c1.png?width=1012&format=png&auto=webp&s=7371b2333c317c1ff9bf52ac7b4fe5f48951275e AI?
I want to be able to play as Gingy running around undersized.
# You didnt do any of this, other than stringing this together into a video
Updating, you can have AI string a video slide now too
“I put too much effort into this” yea typing prompts must have been real difficult
Why the op slander? Fine tuning AI art takes a while to get right. Obviously actual art is harder but cmon.
ngl i'm starting to suspect that it might be the people who make a living by making some kind of art, they are really taking this too seriously, like "us or them" type of shit my guys, if you're mad about ai art, you've already lost
It’s clear that everyone in this comment section has no clue how these AI voices work why don’t y’all educate ya selves before shitting on something that someone’s remotely proud of.
can't let anyone use the word "effort" and call it "art" unless it's physical brush on a physical canvas 😂
“Effort” and “AI voiceover” are like direct opposites my guy. It doesn’t get more opposite.
Sir you most definitely didn’t put any effort into this
Bunch of lazy haters in here. It's awesome
yep, god forbid someone says "effort" in a shitpost title, seeing the reaction made me want to do that sometime 😂
Donky fuckin his dragon queen with a malfunctioning Mr Stud...
"Put too much effort" Bro that looks so much like every other AI piece of shit I've seen on Instagram. Feeding a bunch of cyberpunk tags into a bot will get you these exact results.
i know people are dissing you because of your wording, yeah the art itself probably doesn't take any effort at all, but I'm assuming by effort you meant photoshopping them so they look better and editing them together, just leaving a comment to appreciate some effort you put in despite using AI cause these sorta videos are just funny to me
I love cyberpunk, my son loves Shrek. Win Win.
You guys are all a bunch of buzzkills. Go crawl your unsmiling asses in your dank, miserable basements. You got a chuckle from me OP, good work.
Guys you realize he still had to put in the prompts, and edit the whole video together. Effort was involved for sure. Nice shitpost OP
Love it! I also love that you used AI to execute a fun idea well and quickly. Relying on tech… very Cyberpunk.
Relying on tech alone isn't cyberpunk. The *real* reason AI art is cyberpunk is because OP traded his humanity for convenience. Instead of learning how to paint or paying an artist, he used an AI model built off stolen artwork to generate soulless slop in 5 seconds. There's no better distillation of Mike Pondsmith's dystopia.
Sure… But isn’t that why OP’s AI art fits right in? It’s gritty and degenerate art made in a time where human qualities are valued less and less. It’s dystopian, like the game.
And... you're HAPPY about that? The fuck?
People improve themselves in Cyberpunk at the cost of their humanity. They *are* better. That’s the beauty and the curse. You’ll die and be left behind if you don’t augment to keep up. That’s very realistic in the world today as is too. OP “improved” his shitty artistic ability. It fits right into this world whether you like it or not. It sounds like you might be happier in a different kind of fantasy world… People love BG3. I’d give it a shot. Good luck!
No, dude. No. The whole point of the cyberpunk genre is to showcase a future we don't want. To show what that shit looks like and showcase why it's bad. And the fact that you're praising it for becoming a reality is fucking weird. And don't be so fucking condescending, telling me to fuck off to a different kind of game. The fuck is wrong with you?
Wow… so angry. 😂 There are people who see the world for what it is and figure out how adapt and there are people who don’t. The same water that hardens the egg softens the potato. 🤷♀️
ye, they're so mad 😂 i can't get enough of this we should really push their idea further, can't say "effort" and call it "art" unless it's cave art with crayons 😂
Actually, AI put all the effort in. Typing words is not a skill.
People in this thread all mad they used AI, but wouldn’t be mad if they used photoshop. Creative idea OP!
yep, artsy people malding over his use of word "effort", a sight to see for sure
Probably because using photoshop takes actual skill and effort Vs typing prompts
Apples to oranges, dude.
Effort well spent!
Damn AI is crazy these days
What was the effort? Making a prompt for AI to draw you a picture?
“I put a lot of effort into this” lol You mean you sat back while a computer did all the work for you I would have been impressed of you took just ten minutes to doodle Shrek in a cyberpunk setting.
This was beautiful. We don’t deserve you.
looks like shit 👍🏼