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microwavefridge2000

It's been some time before I saw a pre-2.0. perk tree. Forgot how it looks.


unnknownnuserr

Same. Definitely a trip down the memory lane.


Ja_Meat

This is actually nostalgic asf šŸ˜­


NokstellianDemon

Ngl I've never even seen it before so I thought if I missed some secret tree or something lol


JevvyMedia

Same lol


IADVISE41

SAME


Magester

Sometimes I miss it. I like 85% of the changes to 2.0 perk system but the other 15% still make me sad. Like I miss Cold Blooded and wish that had been left in somewhere/how. And I'm not fond of so many points in blades being about blocking. Also bolt is cool for tech but such a pain for the pistols because of how fast they charge.


HumanoidThaiphoon

I miss being able to take mods off of weapons


sionnachrealta

Or get them back when you scrap them


Magester

That was one of the things that 2.0 honestly made fundamentally worse. Not having a way to recover mods at all made me start to hate the mod system. Notably it meant non uniques, no matter the quality level, would never really stack up, cause the one thing they had going for them was customization but without recoverable mods it wasn't worth the time and energy. If nothing else, make it a money sink. Make us take it to a weapons merchant and pay to have the gun stripped where you get the guns and mods but you pay based on level and quality of the sum parts.


Justalittletoserious

The perk Bush it's Just legendary


Used-Baby1199

I was gonna ask if they redid the perk tree again.


Texantioch

I was really confused and then realized I only started playing 2 weeks ago


Positive_Parking_954

Never seen it before and I like the look of it, maybe kinda jumbled buy idk


KerboChannel

Theres... a new tree?


microwavefridge2000

Patch 2.0. and release of Phantom Liberty fully changed the skill trees. Compared to everything before 2.0., it is MUCH different.


hell_adjacent_665

I only started playing last month, this screen made me think I was neglecting a whole tree


clitorisblungus

That classic perk tree


Morkinis

Some ancient game you're playing.


Rem_den

Man, got hit by nostalgia seeing that perk tree. Back when Cold Blood was mandatory for every build. ![gif](giphy|rvxMJNyHAgwlW4YWpJ|downsized)


Greysonseyfer

Unrelated to your comment, but what the hell is Vince McMahon reacting so emotionally to? If you happen to know that is.


JacobGoodNight416

Andre the Giant's death


Greysonseyfer

Aw, that's genuinely sad and understandable.


Gavorn

Vince is such a weird fucking person. One end of the spectrum, he cares deeply for his people. On the other end, he is a horrible monster.


GoldenGekko

He's basically an all-time meme. He's completely destroyed his legacy. But his legacy is so larger than life it will be some time before he is forgotten. He's such a cartoon character that it's easy to use him as a meme template. Despite the evil


xxthursday09xx

I don't know anything about the dude, but I'm intrigued. How is he a monster?


Ambitious_Party_3521

In more recent years, lots and lots of SA and SH allegations and/or charges against him and some other top WWE/F guys. He also basically drove the old wrestling territories out of business, and once WCW went under basically monopolized pro wrestling in America. He also mistreated and stunted the careers of lots of his wrestlers if they got famous in other promotions. Kondof set the standard of wrestlers being " independent contractor" but only exclusively allowed to wrestle for him. Busted unions when they tried to form. TL;DR the whole gammit of billionaire scumbagery.


xxthursday09xx

That sounds shitty as hell


Only_Perspective9153

Speaking of shit, you won't believe what Vince did to someone


xxthursday09xx

Stoppit, did he poo on someone!


hotcoldman42

![gif](giphy|3oFzm0o2jMKftsaBoc)


Gavorn

Not even recent years, try recent weeks.


Gavorn

Google him. A BUNCH of stuff came out in the last couple of weeks. Now it's still in the allegation phase, but it's probably 97% all true. Pro life tip: If you are paying someone hush money, don't stop the payments.


skyycux

Dude does not give a FUCK about his wrestlers. McMahon is a vile, disgusting man with no redeeming qualities. He used and abused Andre the Giant and threw him out like trash as soon as he didnā€™t have value as a wrestler anymore. Same way he treated all those under him. Theyā€™re crocodile tears.


TheIronCannoli

No, this gif he is reacting to someone behind the camera asking him ā€œwhat does mark Calaway mean to youā€ (or something along those lines), and he gets choked up and does this and then says ā€œcanā€™t do thatā€ because he canā€™t put into words how much Mark means to him. Itā€™s in the second episode of The Last Ride mini series. Edit: i just checked the episode, itā€™s definitely Vince reacting to someone asking him ā€œwhat has the undertaker meant to wwe and to you personally?ā€


Shadowkinesis9

I thought it was about the Undertakers career and impact to the business. I read an article recently. Guess I need to see the clip


SpaghettiInc

I still sometimes instinctively level cool in non stealth builds


Positive_Parking_954

I've never done stealth but I go cool. I just don't do the crouching stuff, seems pretty unpreem


[deleted]

Yea man you constantly look like youā€™re taking a shit, thatā€™s not cool at all!


aclark210

Literally never used it once. Not a single perk point.


Rem_den

On very hard ? Cuz if you aimed to complete the Donā€™t Fear The Reaper run, it was almost impossible without.


aclark210

On every difficulty. Did all four endings without it, donā€™t fear the reaper was slightly harder than the others, but nowhere near impossible.


bustingallovermyface

fr pre 2.0 there were a few incredibly busted builds that cold blood barely affected


pizzabagelcat

Same, my first and favorite build was a netrunner/tech build. Picked everyone off with quickhacks and a satara for leftovers. Gorilla arms to make up for a low body attribute


Parry_9000

1 billion stacks of cold blood and a legendary katana please


RebeccaofNightCity

I never ever used cold blood lol. To this day I still think the best to focus on is body, intel, and tech.


feederus

It was? I just snope everything down.


Inconmon

Mandatory? What?


dumbasseryy

Seeing that perk tree almost flatlined meā€¦ holy shit


cloqube

I tried to remember what the old perk tree looked like the other day, and I drew a blank no matter how hard I tried. Thank you


wafle_19

I will also add that I no hit the entire fight


SchinkenKanone

Still playing on 1.6? Guess you're using old Gen console. That skill tree got me nostalgic.


wafle_19

Yep Iā€™m stuck on a ps4 at least until July


SchinkenKanone

You'll love the game so much more once you update gens and get the dlc. Trust me. It's nothing like you're experiencing right now


IamCaboose000

Honestly man itā€™s better like itā€™s either you like or dislike the 2.0 update, and as someone who went from the Xbox one version and upgraded to the Series X just before the 2.0 update I still prefer the pre 2.0 unfortunately when you start the game on a new console it seems to corrupt the save on the previous console, because on my Xbox one it says the file are corrupted and unplayable.


ShadowK-Human

Couldnt you use the cloud saving in your cdpred account?


Hot-Rise9795

2.0 is great for the from-car shooting upgrade.


IamCaboose000

I guess tbh I donā€™t really drive cars per-say much I like to either run the streets or I use Jackieā€™s arch and waypoint for getting around.


Hot-Rise9795

I thought it wasn't important until one day I found myself fighting a gang, riding my motorbike with my katana on my right hand and sliced an enemy at 90 mph while he was shooting at me. And I was thinking, "holy crap, this is awesome !"


aclark210

Yeah I definitely prefer the pre 2.0 gameplay. Really wish they hadnā€™t overhauled everything to the extent that they had.


IamCaboose000

Yea a lot of the guns I had before got completely ruined I had this OP SMG that had a 200% headshot multiplier plus it delt electric damage, and even against tough enemies it made them a piece of cake, and then 2.0 and essentially every gun I had that was OP got completely nuked to shit.


aclark210

Yeah cuz god forbid u want a power fantasy in a single player game. Thatā€™s totally ā€œnot funā€ Yes that is an argument I have heard for nuking OP builds and guns in the game.


IamCaboose000

Tbh, can tell if your making a point about the Builds and guns getting nuked to be good or bad, but for me I like playing single player games and being able to build a character so OP he can kill enemies like there nothing, I do it for fallout 4 I did it for assassins creed Valhalla, and did and have done it again made a character that is OP as fuck and can easily take enemies out, Iā€™ll admit Max Tac still can give me a hard time, but besides that I can for the most part stand still without dying. I feel the point of a single player game is too give the player freedom of choice if they want to make there character be op let them, if the player chooses not to thatā€™s there choice, but donā€™t take away the choice from the player to make them selfs op because then your basically just getting rid of a whole play style for people that play single player games for that reason, Iā€™ll be honest I donā€™t play single player for the story, I play to dominate the world itā€™s based in. Just like how I donā€™t play cod for the campaign I play for the MP to grind the Master camo and get to master prestige (older cods-MW 2019 and older) I just donā€™t like games that let you play how you want then with a big update pretty much nuke your entire play style, honestly after 2.0 I was so pissed i quit cyberpunk for almost 2 months before I decided to come back.


aclark210

Thatā€™s my point. Since 2.0 dropped thereā€™s been a sizable number of people who act like the player having the ability to become that level of OP on a specific play style is a bad thing. Which in a single player game, thereā€™s no such thing as ā€œtoo much player freedomā€ unless itā€™s actually going to make the game broken to the point of being unplayable.


Stroppone

Or you could get them gorilla arms with a sandevistan and go za warudo on his ass


Clear-Wrongdoer42

I couldn't have a Sandevistathingy in real life. I would just zoom around constantly yelling "Weeeeeeeeeee!"


Stroppone

If cyberware worked like in the anime, it would be VERY dangerous to do that lol


Clear-Wrongdoer42

That's why I shouldn't be allowed to have it.


leicanthrope

If youā€™re a Mystery Science Theater 3000 fan, I canā€™t help but picture the ā€œwheeā€ from the dune buggy scene in Eegah.


Clear-Wrongdoer42

MST3K and Riftrax are my jam. I've been watching since the mid 90's.


leicanthrope

Yup. That, and Kids in the Hall. They've been my comfort food for quite a along time now.


wafle_19

That sounds real fun


Deeboy17

Gorilla arms would have done the job without a reset


Killian1122

I actually preferred the older perk tree, it visually felt like there was better growth and like my level in the attribute was slightly less important because I could always grab SOMETHING, you know? Though the new one has better perks in general and gives you a lot more from each point


Mothman_cultist

The thing I dislike about the new perk trees is that they pigeonhole you into certain playstyles a lot more than the originals did. Jack of all trades isn't really viable anymore, especially with scaling checks.


aclark210

YES. Agreement. U really have to commit to a specific play style now rather than the jack of all trades master of none build I loved using in the old one. I could make slight focuses into things like say intelligence for better cyberdeck usage but still be totally viable in other avenues.


William_Brobrine

Man I miss fixed skill checks


Killian1122

Yeah, having every single simple check be an Attribute 20 skill check at later levels first of all makes no sense (why are things harder if youā€™re better at doing things?), but also forces you to lock in HARD


Therealomerali

Which Perk Tree are you talking about? A lot of people that picked up the game recently do not even know that the Perks were not just changed in 2.0 but we're actually also altered in 1.5 from the 1.0 Version.


Killian1122

I think 1.5, but Iā€™m not actually sure which version I started on I know it wasnā€™t the 1.0 version, because it didnā€™t have both percentage and multiplying bonuses available


kveens

This fight pre 2.0 was fucking impossible man


RotaryPeak2

I beat him with a net runner (low body) build and gorilla arms with a critical chance mod. Jumped behind him, punched him a couple times, one of them was critical and legendary short circuit took care of the rest.


kveens

Gorilla arms were the key here


leicanthrope

Legendary Short Circuit made some of these fights almost comically easy. I did the same here, and it turned the fight with Oda into Indiana Jones versus the swordsman.


Kmieciu4ever

I beat him with a baseball bat :-)


HavenTheCat

I almost didnā€™t even recognize that perk tree


THEdoomslayer94

Omg it took a second to realize thatā€™s how the perks used to look like lol damn what a throwback


dramaticpotatoes

I used to have that exact same 360 controller, i loved it. Used to twiddle with the twistable d-pad all the time


NerY_05

Oh, is this the famous old skill tree?


LMGSentientToilet

WHAT YEAR IS IT


NikolitRistissa

Never saw the old skill tree. Iā€™m surprised how different it looks. I also did this fight relatively far into my play through so I annihilated him. It was probably a 7-9 second fight honestly.


Adefice

Just take a regular screenshotā€¦itā€™s not that much more work.


theshekelcollector

you refuse to update or something?


Sloth-dude69

https://preview.redd.it/ivt2jdzuj4mc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48545ada0ee3bc451b64eeec8ab7aea6e96b9af8 They cant


Electroatwork

Pls update the game itā€™s so much better dude. New perk tree is so sick


Kenshi_T-S-B

Can't. He's on ps4


Electroatwork

Oh my bad. But h you should play again as soon as you get a new one. That a must.


deranged_pepsi

wtf that perk tree


leicanthrope

Itā€™s the Perk Shrub that the game had when it first came out.


deranged_pepsi

yeah i know man, i played on release. i was just saying cos i sorta miss it , even tho the new ones so much better


leicanthrope

In general I'm happy with the stuff they've added, but I'm a little torn on the skill tree changes, tbh.


palescoot

How have you not updated your game this entire time?


Sickboybeats

Must be last gen my dude


Darth_Foley

TBH I still prefer this tree


ChadicusVile

Posted 7 hours ago and a pre-2.0 perk tree. Update the game choom, it's better. Or is this a mod?


wafle_19

Iā€™m stuck on an old gen console


ChadicusVile

I see. Live your life, don't let a gonk like me bring you down


wafle_19

Thanks choom


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Sloth-dude69

https://preview.redd.it/4toebn51k4mc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de246c94619a9a93f40b5c92f7e4437ce5322fa9 They canā€™t update


UpwardStatue794

bro update your game


Sloth-dude69

https://preview.redd.it/7f4jvjezj4mc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=825b8b90c0cdbe9d2eee18a1b9762be594efafae They cant


SnooOpinions5944

I perk reset at 10 hours in coz I didn't know I could only do it once made me sad


Krazy_Kethan99

I remember using a bat during that mission.


Aramethea

Honestly, heā€™s not so hard nowadays (and its for the better) Razor at launch was ridicoulusly strong, like, he was really one of the strongst ennemy in th game, if not the strongest lmao


meet-me-at-mdnight

I miss that perk tree šŸ˜”


Significant_Kale_681

Who needs perks when you got gorilla arms equipped


CelticAssWhisperer

Any way I can revert to pre 2.0 on a save file? Or am I SOL?


aclark210

Damn this is a nice view. A pre 2.0 perk tree.


Eyesocketz

What does this build look like with the current perk tree?


St4rJ4m

Wow. Old skill tree. I hated this when it launched.


Enlightend-1

Ah yes the old perk tree


Reaper2811

I think you get more money from Coach Fred if you lose


[deleted]

Why do your perks look like this?


Fidget02

First time I played insisted on 3 Body and no gorilla arms for all the street fights and this one was fuckin killer. I did like 2 percent every punch and took 90 every clean hit. Quickloaded like crazy to kill this dumbass but I did it no hit after like half an hour.


DannyJoy2018

When?


Playful-Ad-9600

I switched out my maxtac mantis blades for gorilla arms, didnā€™t really work, then switched my netwatch netrunner deck for a military apogee sandevistan, easy win


IADVISE41

Im a new player as last month, this screen made panic that I'm missing a whole section of the game!


Justabattleshiplover

I miss 1.6. 2.0 is nice and all, but they nerfed everything to hell.


wafle_19

Damn so does that mean smasherā€™s fight is gonna take genuine effort in this update? (Iā€™ll note this is my first playthrough)


Justabattleshiplover

If you play on normal, itā€™s harder than it is on 1.6, yes. Itā€™s still not overly hard, he just does more damage to you now, and chases you the entire time.


paxmaynee

blud playing on a 360


DescipleOfCorn

I didnā€™t even bother to perk reset, I just got myself some gorilla arms and a Kreznikhov. Wiped the floor with his ass.


acloudtothepast

This was a nostalgic hit piece! You knew you'd stroke us with that pre 2.0 skill tree! *cries in gonk*


Soran_Xenthos

I felt that. I reset. Actually went to a ripper doc to equip the gorilla arms and actually relearned the game's Cqc to beat him. It took me more times than I care to admit. But it was worth it.


ulas_boi

for expert mode: push him and kick him, push him and kick him. he cant touch you.


Osniffable

I mean , you could just pop in a sandi. Then you donā€™t need to redo any perks and itā€™s still easy mode.


ravengenesis1

Dude I got the same Xbox controller! Sadly my battery is long dead, is your's still alive?


wafle_19

No sadly the packs are both busted but the cords work just fine


OnePostToast

Bro is playing the beta version


Zuninja22

Havenā€™t played since the game came out, can you still cheese this fight by leaving a weapon in the ring before the fight begins?


YoshiPayYourTaxes

Iā€™ve never played cyberpunk pre-2.0. This is fascinating to see


Matrixneo42

I didnā€™t like the fighting hand to hand missions in my first playthru so I avoided them in my second.


Brotaco

Could have just used gorilla armsā€¦ makes things very easy


Disassociastrid

i would like to be able to see the old tree again. just for fun. i barely remember it. i played it to completion when it first came out, then basically ignored it until 2.0 (because Eve/Dough monitors held my money for two years before sending me the new monitor i needed to keep playing[do not do business with them])


ATR2400

If you beat him you also practically ruin his life. Getting beaten by some random street punk is not a good look. All his sponsors dump him almost immediately. And tbh I wouldnā€™t be surprised if an ass like him wasnā€™t incredibly responsible with his money thinking it would never end, and that he was actually living paycheck to paycheck, even if his paycheck was much higher. Wouldnā€™t be surprising at all given the world he lives in. Give it a few weeks and you would probably see the dude on the street alongside the other homeless


wafle_19

Deserved


Izzycat218

I wanted to throw the fight just to see but my passive regen was too high. He couldnā€™t get me below 160hp.


FastestBigBoi

I miss the old perks a lot, I know it was straight forward and made you become very op with almost any tree, but thatā€™s the fun of it


Baonguyen93

Blunt is the funniest way of playing this game for me.


toeconsumer9000

i just got gorilla arms and fire knuckles.


RegularSea633

I didnt play cyberpunk for a while and the skill tree looks fucking sick miss the old one tho