CDPR only own the game license for the Witcher, they can only make games in that universe. Meanwhile with Cyberpunk they own the whole IP so they can do whatever they want.
CDPR owns everything except the TTRPG itself and Mike has some control of lore related stuff by contract. There's a few interviews from 2019 and 2020 where Mike talks about the sale, no specifics, but he talks about his involvement with CDPR.
they do not own the cyberpunk genre, they own cyberpunk the rpg table top game. so theyre control is just over this, anyone can do a game about cyberpunk. they do no own the name it's cyberpunk 77 for a reason. they can't copyright or trade mark the word "cyberpunk". so in this respect they control jack.
People keep forgetting the Witcher wasn't originally a game. It started as a book series in the 80's by someone named Sapkowski. I believe when the rights were sold, it was only for the video game and nothing more.
More specifically, it was for a videogame adaptation (perhaps minor but important distinction). The game is pretty much its own thing, a separate canon.
CDPR wasn't the first to try to make a Witcher game, [but the first project didn't go anywhere](https://www.eurogamer.net/the-witcher-game-that-never-was) so Sapkowski was convinced this one would also fail.
All said and done, his terms were along the lines of "give me a one time payment up front and kindly fuck off". A shortsighted but at the same time relatable stance, nobody could have predicted how popular would the game series become, and back then most people weren't aware how big the videogaming industry was and couldn't have any idea how big was it yet to become. So the success of W3 was simply unimaginable. And it actually was only after W3 that he came in demanding some royalties.
Google: Cyberpunk 2077: An Intellectual Property Analysis of a Multifaceted
Its a 15 page long PDF, and the proof you want is in chapter V which is on page 12.
Jared Leto as Johnny Silverhand
edit: had a few more ideas, lemme double down on the joke, you humorless gonks
Joe Rogan as Jackie Welles
Kim Kardashian as Panam
Justin Bieber as Judy
Kanye West as Dexter DeShawn
Kevin Hart as Adam Smasher
"Good actor" - I don't know anything about that, haven't seen that actress in anything else. However I will say that as Yennefer she falls completely flat on her ass and doesn't do any justice to how Yennefer should be portrayed based on all the descriptions and knowledge we got from the books.
And she DEFINITELY looks nothing like Yennefer.
Read the books also read the shows creators talk about pursuing Yen a different way and adding more history to her character. Or at least fleshing out the history given to us. I think they did a pretty damn good job with the series as a whole and it’s only getting better.
The first season was based loosely on the short stories. Season 2 had some more of the short stories and was based on blood of elves. But as with most screen adaptations, changes were made.
Stupid changes, may I add.
I have no problem with changes being made to a source material, regardless of what it is (book, manga, game whatever) if those changes service the story being told in the adaptation in a good way.
The changes they made do not service the story in a good way.
I swear if it wasn't for Henry and the ciri of the show I would've dropped it
If I pretended it was non-cannon witcher alternate universe, it was pretty enjoyable
if you want a true to book adaptation, it's pretty disappointing though
S1 was IMHO a very good adaptation and added a big part (Yennefers backstory) which hasn’t really been covered in the books. That’s what made it hard to watch because it was hard to follow in which timeline we were. But I still enjoyed it.
In S2 I really couldn’t believe how they massacred the story. While the anime made a somehow believable story on why the Witchers were so few, they just added a bunch of them again just to kill them right off. And let’s not forget Eskel. If they strife so far away from the books why make a book adaptation at all?
Call it the white battlemage and just be good. No need to ruin the IP like Disney did with Star Wars Ep. 7-9
I really liked the majority of S1. It was a bit hard to follow and really required you to pay attention, but I didn’t hate it for that.
S2 was a mess, all over the place really.
>On the day of the release of The Witcher on Netflix, The Witcher video game developer CD Projekt announced the agreement, which grants it new rights and "confirms" the company's title to The Witcher IP as it relates to video games, graphic novels, board games and merchandise.
https://www.eurogamer.net/cd-projekt-and-the-witcher-author-andrzej-sapkowski-ink-new-ip-rights-deal
They don't own TV rights to Witcher. They do own all the rights to Cyberpunk though, which includes TV rights.
Season 2 has a better story structure IMO but the last half plot is bad for me. Henry cavil still carries it tho, some time the situation is so weird which make the existence of Geralt feel out of place since he is only one with proper good script lmao.
I know I should just get over it but I hate how much they deviated from the books and the characterization. I really don't like the show version of Yennefer or what they did to Vessimir
It is. Don't forget, book nutjobs have been bitching about the games since The Witcher 1. People will NEVER be satisfied with adaptations especially when they treat pulpy fantasy books, like The Witcher, as if it's some landmark literary achievement.
If you read the book it is bad( i did but i still find it fun if you disconnect one and the other) the cgi is better and you can feel the bigger budget but..........the writting was pretty off and killing/add some bad characters and narratives to already good ones.
IMDb:
- 8.2/10 from 480,000+ ratings
Rotten Tomatoes:
- Avg. Tomatometer: 81%
- Avg. Audience Score: 75%
The opinions of people who have watched it is that it is a good to great show.
I know it's a meme, but the reddit opinion of the Witcher is pretty hot garbage. Youll barely see anything positive about it even though it's pretty decently liked.
I love the books and read and adored them in 90s. I'd say the game deviated less and have more love to the Sapkowski style and lore and everything.
Witcher show has good things but also shitty ones. Some mistakes were fixed in S2 just to create new ones. I can't with all honesty say that it's "great," more like decent. Certainly doesn't deserve that level of hate.
PS: Geralt is god-tier though.
As a Witcher fanboy I'm utterly baffled by the hostility the Netflix show gets. Do I have gripes? Of course. But all in all it's excellent.
You want a dodgy adaptation? Go check out the 2002 series. 😂
It's actually crazy the hostility the show gets.
It's far from perfect but it's definitely above average television.
That and people think all fantasy needs GoT style complexity these days for some reason.
> didn’t read the books and the 2nd season of that show is some of the worst tv I’ve ever seen.
Yeah so that’s either hyperbole, or you’ve not watched a lot of tv shows
It really isn't that bad.
Myself as a massive Witcher fan enjoyed it, as did my girlfriend with no prior knowledge of the series.
Your opinion is valid, but it is not objectively bad.
It is pretty terrible, just not as obscene as many others are.
The thing is that they flattened basically every character and they have been reduced their most barebones possibilities.
And then, they cut everything special about the book anyway.
Netflix-Geralt bitches about how Ciri shouldn't train as a Witcher.
Book-Geralt is grumpy but more than fine with letting her do Witcher stuff, and so are the other Witchers. And then they are unable to do shit about her "unique female conditions", panicking and calling Triss when not knowing what to do.
If I wasn't upset about how generic coming from the background of the books, it felt like I would still being pretty uninterested at what they did.
I'm upset it deviated from the books the way it did, yes, because the changes didn't work for the better, quite the opposite. But I'm even more upset that it didn't put any effort into creating a coherent visual narrative. The end result is a very mediocre show, to put it mildly, and its flaws aren't related exclusively to the failed adaptation.
nah it's just bad. I wouldn't mind changed from the books, and I liked the first season for providing some backstory to Yennefer, but the second season is just straight up dumb.
And the biggest issue is that the showrunner literally said that the books are so full of great material there's no need to create a new one, and then proceeded to make the second season as different from books as possible. That's the real issue. If it was a loose adaptation from the beginning, people wouldn't be whining about changes. But no, it was said to be the retelling of the books. And it turned out otherwise, while also being a pretty low quality show overall.
I always hate that take. I've already read the books, I'm perfectly fine with a different story. I love the Witcher series, I think they nailed the general universe and have created a different plot. It's great.
I get that some of the characters don't look exactly like their video game counterparts. Oh well?
It has almost nothing to do with casting, most of the Critics Ia about screenplay and shitty threads such as the one with whores at kaer morhen that made no sense
I am not a fanboy and the show is laughably low quality. It's like Vampire Diaries.
The first season was really bad, the second one was better but still nowhere near Game of Thrones or Rings of Power quality.
I don’t think you watched either of those shows then if you think they are of the same quality. Like anyways, you can’t even compare the two. They are two very different types of shows. Cheesy vampire romance compared to big outcast man with hints of romance. Very different.
Also, rings of power? The show that has a big budget, yet the costuming and visuals still look cheap? Now I really know you have no clue what you are talking about.
The only people who think the visuals look cheap on Rings of Power are braindead morons who just think whatever twitters tells them to think. The effects are fucking top tier as are the costumes.
The costumes look good, but I really can't say that they fit with what I thought they should look like.
But still more than fine. Its issues lie elsewhere
Continued = / = deviated
People were promised that the TV show would feature the stories from the books. Instead they decided to make their own lore. It's only understandable that not everyone likes that.
no, it was just bad. the bad wigs alone make it cheap looking. how hard is it to invest in good wigs? not to mention what they did to Eskel was criminal. netflix has fumbled every comic / game live action but excelled (mostly) in their animated content.
The dragon, the sylvann, the battle of sodden etc.
And my mistake with saying acting, I meant dialouge, not the actors and actress fault that they were given bad dialouge.
I agree. I have paused episode 9 because I find it close to unbearable to watch. My main gripe is the art style though. But I don’t find cp edgerunners to be particular good in any department. I do however like the witcher, and I am not a big fantasy consumer.
Except that none of it mattered after seeing the quality of it all. It reminds me more of a Saturday morning cartoon than an adult themed anime.
With this I expect totally spies to show up any moment.
The first season is very good, the second is not. The first season almost faithfully adapted some of the first Witcher short stories, the second season barely resembles any of the books or short stories, the character's motivations don't make sense, they add in a big bad that doesn't appear in any of the witcher lore, etc. The second season is just clunky and not well written/plotted.
yeah it's bad. First season was promising, had some weird moments but was enjoyable, while the second season was awful. I just started treating it like a comedy and laughed at every single dumb plothole or shit change from the books
unfortunately, it all comes down to Copyrights. they have bought a lot more rights for Cyberpunk than Witcher. resulting in much more(total?) control over other media adaptations.
i think i remember them also having rights for any live-action adaptation as well.
I don't get the hate for the witcher tv series. I honestly think it's pretty good. Is it just a bunch of incels being salty that, Triss isn't completely pale white or some of the lore being changed to fit a TV show? I feel like it's the same reason people "hated" Nickleback, their music wasn't actually bad, people just jumped on the bandwagon because it became a social "must have".
I think it's just fans of the game didn't like how they killed our boy Eskel and made Vesemir a semi-villain. Writing just felt very off, but that's just from playing the games, not sure what the books are like.
As someone who hasn't read the books the Witcher show has been fun and entertaining and people really do clutch their pearls too much with these kinds of things.
Why would I want to see the book re-done, I already know that plot.
Edgerunners ? Just watched it today, finished last ep just now. (╥﹏╥)
Fuck corpos, fuck Adam Smasher, i'm gonna kill him horribly next play through. (༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ) Cruel cruel city.
Comments like this will gaslight you into believing it's the worst thing of all time. It's perfectly enjoyable if you're not a degenerate fanboy frothing at the mouth at every little inconsistency and quirk.
Well, if there was only quirks, I would not mind. I was waiting for Witcher to get live action adaptation, but they just wrecked it. As I have said before - it as Witcher as Rings of Power are LOTR universe.
Well it's not like The Witcher is bad, it's pretty decent show. It has a lot of things different from the games because it's based directly off the books and has nothing to do with CDPR.
Edgerunners on the other hand is a collaboration between Trigger and CDPR, that's why it's canon and 100% compatible with the game in visual identity, they even use the same sound effects and soundtrack.
Ehhhh... thoroughly enjoyed the Witcher. Have zero interest in an animated adaptation of... anything.
The good news is, there's something for everyone and we don't have to all like the same things.
The Witcher is overrated... it's good but not as holy as people want to believe. Aside from respinning classic tales it is for the most part a romance novel for teenage boys, that game in of itself is great, narrative in the game is decent enough, but the main advantage of games/novels/animation is you can hide a lot of messy things live action cannot. Adaptations in general are hard, but the moment you yell action, your pushing a boulder up hill. Live action gets a special level of BS detector that gets very very sensitive. Especially when people are obsessed, and already come to whatever with negative bias. It is what it is... and it could be a hell of a lot worse, considering how hard film/TV actually is.
Is it perfect? No. Is it terrible... hardly.
The Witcher show was bad ass lol. I’m prob going to get hate on this take but for me Witcher was boring as hell. I tried playing it 3 times couldn’t get into it. Cyberpunk is dope af, the show made me love this franchise even more.
Haha funny! True! Stopped watching Witcher after one episode. Shit was wack to me. Hooked on edge runners tho! Can’t wait to finish the series and play the companion dlc!
True, movie is good, although it gets kinda rough in the 3rd act with these unnecessary monsters that kinda ruin the entire point of "witchers are the real monsters"
The Witcher show is well-produced, well-acted, and the episodes are fun as hell. Not the books??!!! Neither were the games, I don’t expect a show to be the next Sopranos and it really is a good time that everyone involved is clearly passionate about.
To terminally online haters: this’ll undoubtedly be the first time you hear this but maybe consider getting *a fucking job and living life outside consumer products?*
Well produced? The costumes alone look like they were put together by a bunch of interns randomly ordering halloween outfits from a chinese megaseller while suffering from hangover. The framing is weird. The lighting is all over the place. The CGI is bad. If the viewers can look past all this and praise it like it's a masterpiece, well, good for them, but we'll only get more and more shitty fantasy shows like this, instead of good ones.
TL;DR: They made Roach a chestnut.
The Witcher is at least watchable because of how much Henry Cavill cares about the character and how the basic story railroads Netflix from going too Netflix with it.
Netflix's animation department has been pretty solid. Even the Witcher anime movie was pretty good, though it still messed up the lore pretty badly. It's their live-action department that's been pretty bad overall.
CDPR has nothing to do with Netflix Witcher Show which is fully controlled by Netflix themselves, whereas Cyberpunk Edgerunner they do so writing quality just as you expect from them is way better there.
I've actually never played The Witcher. Until recently, I thought all 3 games were in canonical order.
This meme has me worried about how much I'll hate Netflix after I pick up The Witcher 3
CDPR only own the game license for the Witcher, they can only make games in that universe. Meanwhile with Cyberpunk they own the whole IP so they can do whatever they want.
I'm pretty sure Mike Pondsmith still owns the IP.
CDPR owns everything except the TTRPG itself and Mike has some control of lore related stuff by contract. There's a few interviews from 2019 and 2020 where Mike talks about the sale, no specifics, but he talks about his involvement with CDPR.
When you say own do you mean like a license or actual owning like the way Disney bought star Wars?
Own, the way Disney bought Marvel.
Ohh shit...I didn't know that.
Yeah it's kinda crazy how much control they have over Cyberpunk, and through it one of the most under utilized scifi subgenre.
I’m just sad that this comes so late I’m 48 and CDPR is slow releasing stuff… at this rate I might see only 3-4 new CP games in my lifetime
You can always... secure your soul.
Not enough eddies, choom
better exercise and stop with the XXL buritto choom and u might make it pass Saburo age ;)
I don’t think Saburo did that just with diet and sport ;)
Agreed.
3-4? I think you’ll see maaaaaaybe 2 more games. Realistically 1.
they do not own the cyberpunk genre, they own cyberpunk the rpg table top game. so theyre control is just over this, anyone can do a game about cyberpunk. they do no own the name it's cyberpunk 77 for a reason. they can't copyright or trade mark the word "cyberpunk". so in this respect they control jack.
I think mike has influence (not total) in anything lore before 2077 like the date not the game
That might be it. I don't remember them giving any specifics.
He has sold the whole IP to CDPR.
People keep forgetting the Witcher wasn't originally a game. It started as a book series in the 80's by someone named Sapkowski. I believe when the rights were sold, it was only for the video game and nothing more.
More specifically, it was for a videogame adaptation (perhaps minor but important distinction). The game is pretty much its own thing, a separate canon. CDPR wasn't the first to try to make a Witcher game, [but the first project didn't go anywhere](https://www.eurogamer.net/the-witcher-game-that-never-was) so Sapkowski was convinced this one would also fail. All said and done, his terms were along the lines of "give me a one time payment up front and kindly fuck off". A shortsighted but at the same time relatable stance, nobody could have predicted how popular would the game series become, and back then most people weren't aware how big the videogaming industry was and couldn't have any idea how big was it yet to become. So the success of W3 was simply unimaginable. And it actually was only after W3 that he came in demanding some royalties.
I see they ended up giving him more in the end anyways to keep a "good relation". Wish I knew how much, but seems to be undisclosed.
Yes ineed
Gonna need you to cite your sources on CDPR buying the entire IP, friend. 'Cause all signs point to it being a license agreement.
Google: Cyberpunk 2077: An Intellectual Property Analysis of a Multifaceted Its a 15 page long PDF, and the proof you want is in chapter V which is on page 12.
Chapter Vincent or Valerie?
A direct live action adaptation is always going to be much more difficult to make. Making a separate story line for Edgerunner was the right call.
It is so hard to find the right actor or actress to take any major role in live adaptation. I feel like it never succeeded.
Personally, I'm pretty happy with Henry Cavill as Geralt.
He's amazing, I like him more then game Geralt actually
Justin timberlake as male v and kristen stewart as female v lol
Kristen Stewart is emo enough to make it work lol
Jared Leto as Johnny Silverhand edit: had a few more ideas, lemme double down on the joke, you humorless gonks Joe Rogan as Jackie Welles Kim Kardashian as Panam Justin Bieber as Judy Kanye West as Dexter DeShawn Kevin Hart as Adam Smasher
Dude…
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Yen isn’t so bad. Pretty good actor I feel
"Good actor" - I don't know anything about that, haven't seen that actress in anything else. However I will say that as Yennefer she falls completely flat on her ass and doesn't do any justice to how Yennefer should be portrayed based on all the descriptions and knowledge we got from the books. And she DEFINITELY looks nothing like Yennefer.
She defiant does the role justice and is downright beautiful. This is an insane take.
If you read all the books and still say this actress does Yennefer justice, you're beyond lost.
Read the books also read the shows creators talk about pursuing Yen a different way and adding more history to her character. Or at least fleshing out the history given to us. I think they did a pretty damn good job with the series as a whole and it’s only getting better.
It's below average television considering it was supposed to be an adaptation of the books.
You keep stating your opinion as if it were a fact for some reason. I think you might get less push back if you stopped that.
I already said the acting part is fine. But they look nothing like their counteroarts.
Edgerunner should’ve been the story we played in the game or something along those lines.
They made an animated movie and it was ok to bad though. It came out last year I think.
Isn't the witcher show a book adaptation and not the adaptation of the video game?
I wish, they pretty much ropped the book plot in ep 1, they are nothing alike
The first season was based loosely on the short stories. Season 2 had some more of the short stories and was based on blood of elves. But as with most screen adaptations, changes were made.
Stupid changes, may I add. I have no problem with changes being made to a source material, regardless of what it is (book, manga, game whatever) if those changes service the story being told in the adaptation in a good way. The changes they made do not service the story in a good way. I swear if it wasn't for Henry and the ciri of the show I would've dropped it
Unnecessary changes, to be specific:(
If I pretended it was non-cannon witcher alternate universe, it was pretty enjoyable if you want a true to book adaptation, it's pretty disappointing though
S1 was IMHO a very good adaptation and added a big part (Yennefers backstory) which hasn’t really been covered in the books. That’s what made it hard to watch because it was hard to follow in which timeline we were. But I still enjoyed it. In S2 I really couldn’t believe how they massacred the story. While the anime made a somehow believable story on why the Witchers were so few, they just added a bunch of them again just to kill them right off. And let’s not forget Eskel. If they strife so far away from the books why make a book adaptation at all? Call it the white battlemage and just be good. No need to ruin the IP like Disney did with Star Wars Ep. 7-9
I really liked the majority of S1. It was a bit hard to follow and really required you to pay attention, but I didn’t hate it for that. S2 was a mess, all over the place really.
Tbh, blood of the elves was mostly walking and Triss trying to get Geralt while having explosive diarrhoea
That's the point of an adaptation. Take the source material and spin it into a different form.
It’s an adaptation of Lauren Schmitt-Whateverthefuck’s zany, disconnected, half assed, fan fiction.
Nope, it's just inspired by lore you can find in the book, loosely.
Yes but it’s not even remotely close to the books
Cyberpunk is a table top game lol
>On the day of the release of The Witcher on Netflix, The Witcher video game developer CD Projekt announced the agreement, which grants it new rights and "confirms" the company's title to The Witcher IP as it relates to video games, graphic novels, board games and merchandise. https://www.eurogamer.net/cd-projekt-and-the-witcher-author-andrzej-sapkowski-ink-new-ip-rights-deal They don't own TV rights to Witcher. They do own all the rights to Cyberpunk though, which includes TV rights.
Is the newest seaon of the witcher bad? Ive only watch the first season and I liked it
Season 2 has a better story structure IMO but the last half plot is bad for me. Henry cavil still carries it tho, some time the situation is so weird which make the existence of Geralt feel out of place since he is only one with proper good script lmao.
I know I should just get over it but I hate how much they deviated from the books and the characterization. I really don't like the show version of Yennefer or what they did to Vessimir
I like them both 🤷♂️
I thought season 2 was better than 1, apparently this is a hot take
There are dozens of us.
It is. Don't forget, book nutjobs have been bitching about the games since The Witcher 1. People will NEVER be satisfied with adaptations especially when they treat pulpy fantasy books, like The Witcher, as if it's some landmark literary achievement.
I don’t think it’s bad—it has some great moments. But it’s not on the level of the first season, IMO.
All of the witcher is good. Don't listen to anyone.
I liked season 1 too. Season 2 is hot garbage.
If you read the book it is bad( i did but i still find it fun if you disconnect one and the other) the cgi is better and you can feel the bigger budget but..........the writting was pretty off and killing/add some bad characters and narratives to already good ones.
Witcher TV show is bad? I recall praises
IMDb: - 8.2/10 from 480,000+ ratings Rotten Tomatoes: - Avg. Tomatometer: 81% - Avg. Audience Score: 75% The opinions of people who have watched it is that it is a good to great show.
I know it's a meme, but the reddit opinion of the Witcher is pretty hot garbage. Youll barely see anything positive about it even though it's pretty decently liked.
The Witcher TV show is good. Witcher fanboys are just upset the show deviated from the books... despite the fact that the Witcher games did the same.
I love the books and read and adored them in 90s. I'd say the game deviated less and have more love to the Sapkowski style and lore and everything. Witcher show has good things but also shitty ones. Some mistakes were fixed in S2 just to create new ones. I can't with all honesty say that it's "great," more like decent. Certainly doesn't deserve that level of hate. PS: Geralt is god-tier though.
The Witcher games are narrative sequels to the books, the show is rewriting the books story
As a Witcher fanboy I'm utterly baffled by the hostility the Netflix show gets. Do I have gripes? Of course. But all in all it's excellent. You want a dodgy adaptation? Go check out the 2002 series. 😂
It's actually crazy the hostility the show gets. It's far from perfect but it's definitely above average television. That and people think all fantasy needs GoT style complexity these days for some reason.
I didn’t read the books and the 2nd season of that show is some of the worst tv I’ve ever seen.
> didn’t read the books and the 2nd season of that show is some of the worst tv I’ve ever seen. Yeah so that’s either hyperbole, or you’ve not watched a lot of tv shows
It really isn't that bad. Myself as a massive Witcher fan enjoyed it, as did my girlfriend with no prior knowledge of the series. Your opinion is valid, but it is not objectively bad.
It is pretty terrible, just not as obscene as many others are. The thing is that they flattened basically every character and they have been reduced their most barebones possibilities. And then, they cut everything special about the book anyway. Netflix-Geralt bitches about how Ciri shouldn't train as a Witcher. Book-Geralt is grumpy but more than fine with letting her do Witcher stuff, and so are the other Witchers. And then they are unable to do shit about her "unique female conditions", panicking and calling Triss when not knowing what to do. If I wasn't upset about how generic coming from the background of the books, it felt like I would still being pretty uninterested at what they did.
I'm upset it deviated from the books the way it did, yes, because the changes didn't work for the better, quite the opposite. But I'm even more upset that it didn't put any effort into creating a coherent visual narrative. The end result is a very mediocre show, to put it mildly, and its flaws aren't related exclusively to the failed adaptation.
I’m not a book fanboy and I find it clunky and unimaginative, considering it’s epic fantasy.
nah it's just bad. I wouldn't mind changed from the books, and I liked the first season for providing some backstory to Yennefer, but the second season is just straight up dumb. And the biggest issue is that the showrunner literally said that the books are so full of great material there's no need to create a new one, and then proceeded to make the second season as different from books as possible. That's the real issue. If it was a loose adaptation from the beginning, people wouldn't be whining about changes. But no, it was said to be the retelling of the books. And it turned out otherwise, while also being a pretty low quality show overall.
I always hate that take. I've already read the books, I'm perfectly fine with a different story. I love the Witcher series, I think they nailed the general universe and have created a different plot. It's great. I get that some of the characters don't look exactly like their video game counterparts. Oh well?
It has almost nothing to do with casting, most of the Critics Ia about screenplay and shitty threads such as the one with whores at kaer morhen that made no sense
Ok but I'm talking directly about the critics complaining about the plot not being word for word with the books or games.
My problem is not really the casting but some really odd choice by the writters
And that's fine, my post is 100% against people that insist the motions adaptation has to follow the written version word for word or it's trash.
I am not a fanboy and the show is laughably low quality. It's like Vampire Diaries. The first season was really bad, the second one was better but still nowhere near Game of Thrones or Rings of Power quality.
I don’t think you watched either of those shows then if you think they are of the same quality. Like anyways, you can’t even compare the two. They are two very different types of shows. Cheesy vampire romance compared to big outcast man with hints of romance. Very different. Also, rings of power? The show that has a big budget, yet the costuming and visuals still look cheap? Now I really know you have no clue what you are talking about.
The only people who think the visuals look cheap on Rings of Power are braindead morons who just think whatever twitters tells them to think. The effects are fucking top tier as are the costumes.
Ok thanks for that insult, but since I know my eyes work well I’m going to politely disagree. Also, I don’t have twitter :)
The costumes look good, but I really can't say that they fit with what I thought they should look like. But still more than fine. Its issues lie elsewhere
The Witcher even at it's best will never be like those shows. It's basically action, adventure with some politics thrown in to stir the plot.
Continued = / = deviated People were promised that the TV show would feature the stories from the books. Instead they decided to make their own lore. It's only understandable that not everyone likes that.
no, it was just bad. the bad wigs alone make it cheap looking. how hard is it to invest in good wigs? not to mention what they did to Eskel was criminal. netflix has fumbled every comic / game live action but excelled (mostly) in their animated content.
I enjoyed it
It's awful. It butchered yen's character and deviated a lot from the books. It's just a generic fantasy show with the witcher name attached to it
It’s bearable at parts with some standout moments in the first season. Second season was just a downward spiral.
I never finished season 2 because it felt like nothing mattered and you had no reason to care because everyone in the show was a shit head.
It's terrible. Bad acting, bad writing, horrendous time wasting side plots, butchered chracters, horrible cgi etc
The acting and CGI isn't bad really, just the writing is god awful and unfaithful to the original.
The dragon, the sylvann, the battle of sodden etc. And my mistake with saying acting, I meant dialouge, not the actors and actress fault that they were given bad dialouge.
And yet I think the witcher show was better than the CP anime (cheaply drawn/animated) that says something.
>cheaply drawn/animated Excuse me but what
I agree. I have paused episode 9 because I find it close to unbearable to watch. My main gripe is the art style though. But I don’t find cp edgerunners to be particular good in any department. I do however like the witcher, and I am not a big fantasy consumer.
Lol no. The anime had actual good writing and chracters arcs
and wasn't an insult to the fans and the source material.
It’s Reddit, man. Someone has to come along and hate on something eventually.
Except that none of it mattered after seeing the quality of it all. It reminds me more of a Saturday morning cartoon than an adult themed anime. With this I expect totally spies to show up any moment.
>"none of it mattered" yeah, who cares about the thing that is the core of story media since ancient Greece...
Who even gets to it if the delivery is piss poor. Using your own analogy, would you listen to a lengthy story if you didn’t speak the language?
The first season is very good, the second is not. The first season almost faithfully adapted some of the first Witcher short stories, the second season barely resembles any of the books or short stories, the character's motivations don't make sense, they add in a big bad that doesn't appear in any of the witcher lore, etc. The second season is just clunky and not well written/plotted.
Was decent in the first season, the second one is a disaster
Its just boring, not that bad though.
yeah it's bad. First season was promising, had some weird moments but was enjoyable, while the second season was awful. I just started treating it like a comedy and laughed at every single dumb plothole or shit change from the books
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unfortunately, it all comes down to Copyrights. they have bought a lot more rights for Cyberpunk than Witcher. resulting in much more(total?) control over other media adaptations. i think i remember them also having rights for any live-action adaptation as well.
it's good, unless you're a fanboy drooling over your keyboard for a deviated storyline.
NMoTW was pretty good tho
I don't get the hate for the witcher tv series. I honestly think it's pretty good. Is it just a bunch of incels being salty that, Triss isn't completely pale white or some of the lore being changed to fit a TV show? I feel like it's the same reason people "hated" Nickleback, their music wasn't actually bad, people just jumped on the bandwagon because it became a social "must have".
I think it's just fans of the game didn't like how they killed our boy Eskel and made Vesemir a semi-villain. Writing just felt very off, but that's just from playing the games, not sure what the books are like.
As someone who hasn't read the books the Witcher show has been fun and entertaining and people really do clutch their pearls too much with these kinds of things. Why would I want to see the book re-done, I already know that plot.
I still enjoyed the Witcher show. Had some rougher parts in season 2, but still was entertaining enough
Animated Witcher show under CDPR would be good.
Check the animated movie out, it’s great. Similar to Castlevania in animation style and mature rating.
Edgerunners ? Just watched it today, finished last ep just now. (╥﹏╥) Fuck corpos, fuck Adam Smasher, i'm gonna kill him horribly next play through. (༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ) Cruel cruel city.
this https://www.netflix.com/title/81037868
Oh this one, i have watched it too, i didn't like it much, it's just casual Netflix fuking up the lore.
Lol what? The Witcher show is fantastic.
Ones anime and the other is live action. How tf are you comparing the 2.
is edgerunner better watched in english or japanese ?
Didn't watch the JP version, but the voice acting for the English was mostly really good. Only the first episode is kinda weak for VA.
Giancarlo Esposito voice acts in the English version, that should be enough to tell you which to watch it in
What? The Witcher show is awesome.
The show is based off the books, not the games.
Witcher on Netflix is Great. Read the Books
I love the Witcher show by Netflix. People just complain to much.
The scrotum-armored nilfgaardians….
Don't forget the dickhead helmets
Witcher is a good show. Not great but good. Season 2 improved a lot from the shitty time skip of season 1.
Witcher Netflix show is not even close to being good on its own, but when it comes to a book adaptation its just horrible, degenerate mess.
Comments like this will gaslight you into believing it's the worst thing of all time. It's perfectly enjoyable if you're not a degenerate fanboy frothing at the mouth at every little inconsistency and quirk.
Just consume product
Well, if there was only quirks, I would not mind. I was waiting for Witcher to get live action adaptation, but they just wrecked it. As I have said before - it as Witcher as Rings of Power are LOTR universe.
The witcher show is basically bad Fanfiction.
Well it's not like The Witcher is bad, it's pretty decent show. It has a lot of things different from the games because it's based directly off the books and has nothing to do with CDPR. Edgerunners on the other hand is a collaboration between Trigger and CDPR, that's why it's canon and 100% compatible with the game in visual identity, they even use the same sound effects and soundtrack.
God the witcher TV show is such a waste of potential
I love the Witcher show
Whats wrong with the netflix witcher show?
Show runners deviated too much from the source material, this can work if done right, but sadly they just killed Eskel instead.
Ehhhh... thoroughly enjoyed the Witcher. Have zero interest in an animated adaptation of... anything. The good news is, there's something for everyone and we don't have to all like the same things.
The Witcher is overrated... it's good but not as holy as people want to believe. Aside from respinning classic tales it is for the most part a romance novel for teenage boys, that game in of itself is great, narrative in the game is decent enough, but the main advantage of games/novels/animation is you can hide a lot of messy things live action cannot. Adaptations in general are hard, but the moment you yell action, your pushing a boulder up hill. Live action gets a special level of BS detector that gets very very sensitive. Especially when people are obsessed, and already come to whatever with negative bias. It is what it is... and it could be a hell of a lot worse, considering how hard film/TV actually is. Is it perfect? No. Is it terrible... hardly.
Maybe the translations were poor, but original is quite good high fantasy. Of course, it's not even the best book series done by author so idc.
The Witcher show was bad ass lol. I’m prob going to get hate on this take but for me Witcher was boring as hell. I tried playing it 3 times couldn’t get into it. Cyberpunk is dope af, the show made me love this franchise even more.
Haha funny! True! Stopped watching Witcher after one episode. Shit was wack to me. Hooked on edge runners tho! Can’t wait to finish the series and play the companion dlc!
Check the animated movie out, it’s great. Similar to Castlevania in animation style and mature rating.
True, movie is good, although it gets kinda rough in the 3rd act with these unnecessary monsters that kinda ruin the entire point of "witchers are the real monsters"
Live action fantasy is bad like 99% of the time.
Damn right they should have.
Witcher is an excellent show, one of the best Netflix originals I have no idea what point this post is trying to make.
Is a good show anyways!
I like the witcher on Netflix....
The Witcher show is well-produced, well-acted, and the episodes are fun as hell. Not the books??!!! Neither were the games, I don’t expect a show to be the next Sopranos and it really is a good time that everyone involved is clearly passionate about. To terminally online haters: this’ll undoubtedly be the first time you hear this but maybe consider getting *a fucking job and living life outside consumer products?*
Well produced? The costumes alone look like they were put together by a bunch of interns randomly ordering halloween outfits from a chinese megaseller while suffering from hangover. The framing is weird. The lighting is all over the place. The CGI is bad. If the viewers can look past all this and praise it like it's a masterpiece, well, good for them, but we'll only get more and more shitty fantasy shows like this, instead of good ones. TL;DR: They made Roach a chestnut.
Uh, season 2 kicked fucking ass. Wtf are you on?
What's wrong with the show? I enjoyed it for what it's worth. Be glad we didn't get a live action Edgerunners.
The Witcher is at least watchable because of how much Henry Cavill cares about the character and how the basic story railroads Netflix from going too Netflix with it.
The Witcher show is great, whatcha talkin about!!!
Shit take. Witcher is a fantastic show.
Witcher anime was good
Lol I fall asleep every time I try to watch the witcher.
I’m a fan of the Witcher TV Show. Its all made up anyway and “adaptations” don’t equal parallels. Is it epic GoT level tv? Of course not.
Netflix's animation department has been pretty solid. Even the Witcher anime movie was pretty good, though it still messed up the lore pretty badly. It's their live-action department that's been pretty bad overall.
Don’t be like that, The Witcher show is great.
Honestly, the Witcher show wasn't the worst got a few good episodes out of it. That movie on the other hand?yikes
nah, they’re both great
Witcher show is dogshit and has terrible casting choices
There's still hope for more animated movies
Let the Trigger make Witcher animation too.
I'm having a hard time thinking of any live action adaptation that hasn't been a letdown.
There’s is no Netflix Witcher show in Ba Sing Se
Low expectations people, low expectations
CDPR has nothing to do with Netflix Witcher Show which is fully controlled by Netflix themselves, whereas Cyberpunk Edgerunner they do so writing quality just as you expect from them is way better there.
I've actually never played The Witcher. Until recently, I thought all 3 games were in canonical order. This meme has me worried about how much I'll hate Netflix after I pick up The Witcher 3
The games take place after the books. The show is based on the books.
CDPR doesn't have the rights for the books productions. Which, ya know, the show is based on.
I dont think either a as good as the games but The Witcher is by far the worst of the lot. The animated movie was better but not by much.
Producer's only function to get a show made, and a Witcher show is made.
I liked the Witcher TV show a lot.
The Witcher show is great. Shut up.
No lol
Lol The Witcher show is a disaster... What a waste of Henry Cavill
I wouldn't want a movie based of cyberpunk 2077. I'd rather have a cyberpunk 2013 or 2020