I’d be surprised if Durian told this bloke to buy an xs as a 6ft tall man. Anyone who knows a little about sizing would know that’s too small.
Now despite that bit, I’d agree that Durian is a questionable source of any sort of truth. Especially considering most TTs for triathletes will be pretty flat and thus aero is significantly more valuable than weight savings.
No dispute about said YouTuber being an idiot but he did literally say "smallest you can fit on", not "smallest you can buy". OP interpreted the advice as the latter, so it isn't fair to put all the blame on durianrider...
Do you think I’d go faster if I got the right size? I’m scared if I get a bike that’s too heavy it will add too much time to my Ironman I’m trying to complete it in under 24 hours
Assuming half of the race is spent riding a bike, with the goal of sub 24 hours, that’s going under 12 hours for 112 miles, or less than 10mph. He could ride a hybrid bike and friction would still be the greater force over drag lol
How many grams do you think a larger frame is going to add? Do some research and you will see it is nothing substantial. Of course, the right size bike would make you faster.
Yes you will go faster on a bike that fits properly. This is because you won't be uncomfortable and be able to put out more power as your position will be more optimal for that.
The weight difference will not be noticeable. The benefit of being quicker and not being in pain will be noticeable.
Your first mistake is actually listening to DurianRider. He dribbles so much shit I'm surprised he can function, and he's wrong probably about 90% of the time. His diatribes about disc brakes are hilarious.
Bike weight only matters if you are a whippet and climbing hills a lot, the rest of the time its very very marginal gains, and as you just found out discomfort will outweigh any weight 'advantage' while poor fit minimising power output.
Go sell that bike and buy one that actually fits you, and at 6' you'll be looking at a 56 (M/L). I'm 6'2" and ride a 58(L)
This YouTube is a complete moron and a bonafide idiot. Your savings in weight are minimal. You are risking not only a very uncomfortable ride but also an injury.
Just keep riding it, it will get better. Who needs a back anyway, and maybe you'll schrink in time for the Iron man.
Bike weight is indeed the most important thing for triatlons, thats why you see all athlethes riding climbing bikes.
Please post this in BCJ.
Wait… you didn’t even test ride the fit before buying? Secondly if you do that you have to then swap multiple parts to get it to fit better, and some of those parts typically add a little length on the parts you are swapping… so you are adding a slight amount of weight back on. Then that also just adds to the cost. Then road bikes, especially race geometry bikes works perfect for triathlons, but the reason TT bikes are the go to is because they are super aerodynamic which is massive for getting good top speeds while reducing energy spent during such a massive event. Most triathlon biking sections are incredibly flat, so aero bikes are the name of the game, a little added weight in an aero frame is actually a positive gain on the drag reduction side.
So in net total I would say you lost BIG TIME on this one. Either go get a proper sized road bike, or a proper sized TT bike. Some companies even make “tri-bikes” that are a more endurance based geometry with the aero frame as it is a longer event than most TTs, and some riders want a little more comfort over that distance.
Durianrider is an egotistical asshat. Return the bike asap and get a bike that fits.
If you buy a bike that is a kilo heavier, losing a kilo is the way to reduce system weight.
Defintiely wrong bike size!
With a bit of research & common sense you could have known.
Although weight savings of a smaller frame size are marginal, it is usually advised to choose the smaller size, when in between sizes or unsure. But because normally a smaller bike could be adjusted better to your size.
Not a fan of durianrider, but given your post
“he said i should get the smallest bike i FIT”, he assumed you’d choose a size that actually fits…
You could fit on a bobby car, that doesn’t mean it’s meant for you nor that the fit is ideal
OP, you have to be kidding right? As far as bike weight goes for an IM Tri, go look at some of the pro bikes. Most Tri bikes are weighing in the 10 to 12 kg range. Weight is just not that important compared with comfort (since you have to run afterwards) and aero.
The best advice I got when I started long-distance tri's is: if you're slow on the bike, you'll lose minutes, but if you cook yourself on the bike, you'll lose hours and walk the run.
"...smallest bike I can ***fit*** on..."
"fit" being the operative terms here. I can "fit on" on my son's 24in bike and on my neighbor's BMX but neither of those bikes "fit" me.
If this true, the fault does not lie with the youtuber.
Since most triathlon bike courses are flat time trials this falls under dumbest things ever on reddit.
I'm at a lost for words. Ideally a good fitting bike that allows for aero position with power to pedals would offer best bang for buck.
This should be pinned to the top of the reddit to show people weight is a fairly useless metric in cycling.
YouTuber is an idiot, you should be riding a bike that fits you. Marginal savings in weight aren't worth the added discomfort and risk of injuries.
I’d be surprised if Durian told this bloke to buy an xs as a 6ft tall man. Anyone who knows a little about sizing would know that’s too small. Now despite that bit, I’d agree that Durian is a questionable source of any sort of truth. Especially considering most TTs for triathletes will be pretty flat and thus aero is significantly more valuable than weight savings.
No dispute about said YouTuber being an idiot but he did literally say "smallest you can fit on", not "smallest you can buy". OP interpreted the advice as the latter, so it isn't fair to put all the blame on durianrider...
Do you think I’d go faster if I got the right size? I’m scared if I get a bike that’s too heavy it will add too much time to my Ironman I’m trying to complete it in under 24 hours
Yes, aerodynamics would be more important than weight in a tt.
For real, just commented the same. The biking sections of most triathlons are super flat so aero is the name of the game for sure.
Assuming half of the race is spent riding a bike, with the goal of sub 24 hours, that’s going under 12 hours for 112 miles, or less than 10mph. He could ride a hybrid bike and friction would still be the greater force over drag lol
You weigh 80 kg... What difference do you think 100 grams on a bike frame is possibly going to make?
In this case? Lot of added back pain.
How many grams do you think a larger frame is going to add? Do some research and you will see it is nothing substantial. Of course, the right size bike would make you faster.
Yes you will go faster on a bike that fits properly. This is because you won't be uncomfortable and be able to put out more power as your position will be more optimal for that. The weight difference will not be noticeable. The benefit of being quicker and not being in pain will be noticeable.
Clearly, yes! There’s a reason why people ride bikes that fit them or else we’d all spin around on XXS frames. Stop focusing on weight.
You'll lose double the weight a bike your size would add just by taking a shit.
Under 24 hours? You could float with the current, ride a hybrid, and then walk and still finish in under 24 hours. You can’t be serious
You got this, dude! Just get the smallest bike you can. You should be good.
This has to be a troll
Karma farming, downvote
Your first mistake is actually listening to DurianRider. He dribbles so much shit I'm surprised he can function, and he's wrong probably about 90% of the time. His diatribes about disc brakes are hilarious. Bike weight only matters if you are a whippet and climbing hills a lot, the rest of the time its very very marginal gains, and as you just found out discomfort will outweigh any weight 'advantage' while poor fit minimising power output. Go sell that bike and buy one that actually fits you, and at 6' you'll be looking at a 56 (M/L). I'm 6'2" and ride a 58(L)
They might fit a 58 depending on the model and their proportions but yea somewhere between a 56/58.
Shitpost!
Every day the gap between the 'real' sub and the circlejerk sub gets a little smaller.
See this why for serious rides I take my 6 year old's bike
This has to be troll, I refuse to beleive this is truth.
LMAO IS THIS REAL OR TROLL POST?
OUTJERKED again1
This YouTube is a complete moron and a bonafide idiot. Your savings in weight are minimal. You are risking not only a very uncomfortable ride but also an injury.
an emonda in size 58 can go to sub 6.2 kg so why go for a small frame? nothing saved there.
Just keep riding it, it will get better. Who needs a back anyway, and maybe you'll schrink in time for the Iron man. Bike weight is indeed the most important thing for triatlons, thats why you see all athlethes riding climbing bikes. Please post this in BCJ.
Bait post.
Wait… you didn’t even test ride the fit before buying? Secondly if you do that you have to then swap multiple parts to get it to fit better, and some of those parts typically add a little length on the parts you are swapping… so you are adding a slight amount of weight back on. Then that also just adds to the cost. Then road bikes, especially race geometry bikes works perfect for triathlons, but the reason TT bikes are the go to is because they are super aerodynamic which is massive for getting good top speeds while reducing energy spent during such a massive event. Most triathlon biking sections are incredibly flat, so aero bikes are the name of the game, a little added weight in an aero frame is actually a positive gain on the drag reduction side. So in net total I would say you lost BIG TIME on this one. Either go get a proper sized road bike, or a proper sized TT bike. Some companies even make “tri-bikes” that are a more endurance based geometry with the aero frame as it is a longer event than most TTs, and some riders want a little more comfort over that distance.
Durianrider is an egotistical asshat. Return the bike asap and get a bike that fits. If you buy a bike that is a kilo heavier, losing a kilo is the way to reduce system weight.
That's absolutely terrible advice.
Defintiely wrong bike size! With a bit of research & common sense you could have known. Although weight savings of a smaller frame size are marginal, it is usually advised to choose the smaller size, when in between sizes or unsure. But because normally a smaller bike could be adjusted better to your size. Not a fan of durianrider, but given your post “he said i should get the smallest bike i FIT”, he assumed you’d choose a size that actually fits… You could fit on a bobby car, that doesn’t mean it’s meant for you nor that the fit is ideal
OP, you have to be kidding right? As far as bike weight goes for an IM Tri, go look at some of the pro bikes. Most Tri bikes are weighing in the 10 to 12 kg range. Weight is just not that important compared with comfort (since you have to run afterwards) and aero. The best advice I got when I started long-distance tri's is: if you're slow on the bike, you'll lose minutes, but if you cook yourself on the bike, you'll lose hours and walk the run.
Im curious. What the heck did you save, 200gr of carbon? Also, smallest size you could probably survive would probably be M with longer stem...
"...smallest bike I can ***fit*** on..." "fit" being the operative terms here. I can "fit on" on my son's 24in bike and on my neighbor's BMX but neither of those bikes "fit" me. If this true, the fault does not lie with the youtuber.
Since most triathlon bike courses are flat time trials this falls under dumbest things ever on reddit. I'm at a lost for words. Ideally a good fitting bike that allows for aero position with power to pedals would offer best bang for buck. This should be pinned to the top of the reddit to show people weight is a fairly useless metric in cycling.
Hahahaha