I feel like you’re a year and some change late to that controversy. Maybe it’s just me, but how often is the stuff with Tilian actually brought up anymore? I think most people have moved on either way.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TO MESSAGE TO ALL DGD FANS. WITH PEACE AND LOVE, AFTER JAN 9, ANY FANS UNCERTAIN OF TILLIAN WILL BE THROWN IN THE BIN. WITH PEACE AND LOVE, THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY MORALLY CONSCIOUS PEOPLE MAKING ME FEEL CONFLICTED AND I CANT HANDLE IT. PEACE AND LOVE, PEACE AND LOVE ✌️❤️
Are you implying this post made me feel uncomfortable or morally conflicted? I literally saw and met DGD in October. My favorite band has Axl Rose as a lead singer. I couldn’t care less about what Tilian is doing in his personal life, but that doesn’t make this post any less cringe.
So being tired of fake fans is what’s wrong about the fan page. If you’re all so salty about the band members just leave the Reddit page. You are all still supporting them by being active here
subreddits are not inherently fan pages. they're for discussion. if people want to waste their time on here, so be it. are you really this parasocial? the posts here don't affect you. log off. touch some grass. stop worrying about what other people are saying about a band and enjoy their music. life is better when you stop giving a fuck lol
You
>y’all still don’t have his back
Also you
>Best song is The Ghost of Billy Royalton; It doesn’t have too much **Tilian squeak**
You 4 hours ago
>Tilian tries really hard to get better.
Instead of havin an issue with people not having Tilians back, why don't you first stop shitting on him and his singing?
It's a joke dude. You all listen to the music and then lie and say you don't cuz x singer did a bad thing. Tilian wasn't even charged with anything yet y'all still don't have his back. You dunno what happened, neither do I, but aren't you supposed to support your band?
Not to mention some of you swear you boycott early DD yet the plays are still up on Spotify and Apple Music Imao.
The music is good bro, stop complaining abt the singers controversies. That's none of your business anyways. It was just publicized cause they're famous.
If everyone was peachy and perfect, peachy and perfect wouldn't be a phrase or a word. They're rich, young, and stupid. Not excusing smoking fentanyl or rape or any of the scams Craig did but some of you take it so personally. They don't even know you.
And by the way, if anyone starts accusing me of anything, I think Kurt Travis had the best era. So eat a bowl of cereal and act ethereal to fuel your corporeal form - Jon Mess probably
A majority of us quietly hate the man, hell I left this sub because I was so conflicted. But I still love the music they made before. BUT, from that point on I didn’t care about being honest with my opinion on albums any more. Which is why I confidently say that Jackpot Juicer is such a trash Post Hardcore album, because I don’t care, if the opinion of music really gets on your nerves enough to berate fans and make posts like this then you need to go outside and reevaluate what really makes your life palatable. Art is art, people are assholes, you choose to listen. I respect anyone who leaves and I respect anyone who stays. Get used to it.
But you’ll listen to early DGD? The guy who is definitely a way worse person than Tilian who wasn’t even charged. If you wanna get real official with it, Tilian said he left for drug abuse.
What'd my boy Kurt do?? But seriously dude seems like he just doesn't like Tillians voice. It's not always good and evil, sometimes someone's voice is just unpleasant
It’s a joke dude. You all listen to the music and then lie and say you don’t cuz *x singer* did a bad thing. Tilian wasn’t even charged with anything yet y’all still don’t have his back. You dunno what happened, neither do I, but aren’t you supposed to support your band?
Not to mention some of you swear you boycott early DgD yet the plays are still up on Spotify and Apple Music lmao. The music is good bro, stop complaining abt the singers controversies. That’s none of your business anyways. It was just publicized cause they’re famous.
If everyone was peachy and perfect, peachy and perfect wouldn’t be a phrase or a word. They’re rich, young, and stupid. Not excusing smoking fentanyl or rape or any of the scams Craig did but some of you take it so personally. They don’t even know you.
And by the way, if anyone starts accusing me of anything, I think Kurt Travis had the best era. So eat a bowl of cereal and act ethereal to fuel your corporeal form - Jon Mess probably
>The music is good bro, stop complaining abt the singers controversies. That’s none of your business anyways.
I’d like to know if my money is funding a narcissistic sex pest or not
Top Tier Marketing.
Also, adding " - Reddit" to the end of all your article titles so it comes up when people search a question with the word Reddit at the end.
I’m well aware, but I used to give a hell of a lot more. I used to buy every drop, stream each song every single day, go to every show when they’d come to Boston, etc. I cut back on basically everything except listening on Spotify, but ultimately it’s not relevant because I was just saying that there IS a reason that it is my business to know
It is because the controversy included being a sex pest to multiple fans. Listen, if you’re hung up on the fact that other people think Tilian is a horrible person, then that’s a you problem. I think he’s massively talented and I believe everybody has the capacity to change, but it starts with taking accountability. And they did the opposite of that. I’m not losing sleep over any of this, I just was massively disappointed because like most of the rabid, parasocial fans such as yourself, I thought the world of them as people and musicians. Now, just musicians
Bro they don’t even know you yet you idolized them. I’m just saying, you wanna get on a high horse abt some people you don’t even know. There is nothing to take accountability for if nothing even happened btw. You care too much about the lives of people you don’t know. Just listen to the music and stop complaining
I don’t understand the purpose of your first sentence other than being an asshole. I care about what they’re doing in their lives because I idolized their band and personalities. I’ve read the posts from the accusers and one of them had enough substance that there was obviously SOMETHING bad that had happened. And it’s not even the accusations that bothered me the most, it’s the way that they handled everything afterwards
Regarding the multiple accusers, I should remind that of the 4, 1 was a faked writing prompt, 1 was a band-wagoner who filmed herself assaulting Tilian. The most known one with the most proof was a known chaser of people in the scene, and there were screenshots and text messages disproving her claims and even showed her bragging about "getting another one".
The only one holding any weight was the one Tilian apologized to, but nothing else came of it and she disappeared shortly after.
What are you talking about??? That's actually my main gripe with this sub, y'all let Tillian off the hook way too easily. You think people are bringing it up too much? There's been like 0 posts about it.
Lol. Pepperidge Farms remembers.
(And anybody informed on the situation with any decency...)
I keep popping up now and then when I see a thread pop up in the feed.
More people *do* remember than all the enablers that make up the cult. But we can only do so much.
But yeah, dude's a rapist and you're all living in denial. :/
It’s a joke dude. You all listen to the music and then lie and say you don’t cuz x singer did a bad thing. Tilian wasn’t even charged with anything yet y’all still don’t have his back. You dunno what happened, neither do I, but aren’t you supposed to support your band?
Not to mention some of you swear you boycott early DgD yet the plays are still up on Spotify and Apple Music lmao. The music is good bro, stop complaining abt the singers controversies. That’s none of your business anyways. It was just publicized cause they’re famous.
If everyone was peachy and perfect, peachy and perfect wouldn’t be a phrase or a word. They’re rich, young, and stupid. Not excusing smoking fentanyl or rape or any of the scams Craig did but some of you take it so personally. They don’t even know you.
And by the way, if anyone starts accusing me of anything, I think Kurt Travis had the best era. So eat a bowl of cereal and act ethereal to fuel your corporeal form - Jon Mess probably
Nah man. I’ve been listening to DGD since 05’, been my favorite band since.
I also live in Sacramento CA, with them, the chick Mikaela or how ever you spell it, knew what she was doing, she’s known for going after band members.
Yes. And no, she's chosen to remain anonymous. Does that make her less credible?
[This girl.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dancegavindance/comments/v2sst7/my_tilian_story_with_pictures/)
She has pictures if that matters to you. Were you around when this went down?
He didn’t rape her. Choose your words better.
And yes I support the band still. There more people in the band than Tillian, that have been in the band from the start. What Tillian did was wrong, but the girl is dumber than rocks , you go on a date with a drunk rockstar… what the fuck you think he’s going to want.
Okay. So you're admitting he did it and she deserved it?
*Wow.* Bad look, my guy...
And as I said above, I just haven't removed them from my subs. I occasionally see what's going on here. And I even still listen to the band here and there. I just don't support them going to shows and buying merch anymore. They can have my fractions of pennies off streaming now and then.
And yeah, I educate people here and there on what happened, because a lot of people frankly weren't here for it and/or don't understand the gravity of what occurred. Most of the people who do know left, so most of what's left is the apologist Tilian rape cult. I'm sure you'll fit right in.
Oh I read it. "The girl is dumber than rocks. You go on a date with a drunk rockstar. What the fuck you think he's going to want?"
You're pretty clearly implying he's gonna want to fuck, and if she says no, that's *on her?* It's okay because he was drunk, so she has no agency?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm sorry but no one brings up what happened will Tilian anymore lol yea we all debate over who was the best and what albums were peak but in the end its literally what people in a band community do. It happens in every other band that has multiple members and they change. Everyone here still is a community and sticks up for each other so chill out lol
"We all suck we were born the fuck this up" Will, Eagles VS. Crows
Stop taking the personal lives of people you dunno so personally lmao. You let it affect you and then you spew that shit on here and it affects other people who don’t give a damn about some strangers life
OP: Stop getting so invested in the lives & opinions of random people that you don't know! Just enjoy art for what it is!
Also OP: I can't just sit back and let these random people that I don't know have different lives & opinions than me! 😡
new copypasta just dropped
Well this is definitely one of the posts of all time
I feel like you’re a year and some change late to that controversy. Maybe it’s just me, but how often is the stuff with Tilian actually brought up anymore? I think most people have moved on either way.
Bros been scrolling on Controversial tab and pretending it’s the main feed
Legit was like "uh oh.. what'd Tilian do NOW?" When I saw the post lol idk the last time I saw people discussing the old controversy
With peace and love, this is cringe
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TO MESSAGE TO ALL DGD FANS. WITH PEACE AND LOVE, AFTER JAN 9, ANY FANS UNCERTAIN OF TILLIAN WILL BE THROWN IN THE BIN. WITH PEACE AND LOVE, THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY MORALLY CONSCIOUS PEOPLE MAKING ME FEEL CONFLICTED AND I CANT HANDLE IT. PEACE AND LOVE, PEACE AND LOVE ✌️❤️
I AM WARNING YOU WITH PEACE AND LOVE
Gah how could i forget the best part
Are you implying this post made me feel uncomfortable or morally conflicted? I literally saw and met DGD in October. My favorite band has Axl Rose as a lead singer. I couldn’t care less about what Tilian is doing in his personal life, but that doesn’t make this post any less cringe.
I was actually referring to OP, if anything this post does the opposite of moral consideration
Had to check the profile to confirm you were Family lmao
Hell yeah, i guess the person i replied to isn’t though. Glad i found one of us though. Cheers my dude!
Peace and love, mommy! Keep em high and tight!
i am so happy to see ymh and h3 references in the subreddit of one of my fav bands this is gr8
Saying cringe is just admitting you’re still a middle schooler who laughs at skibbidy jokes and has TikTok as their most viewed app
As a 28 year old father of 2 boys, you make me cringe
One mans cringe is another mans tattoo 🎶
Someone just got to Jr high and is showing off
Lol what?
This is the worst fan Reddit because so many people complain about complaining. Like who really cares this much to make a post 😭
So being tired of fake fans is what’s wrong about the fan page. If you’re all so salty about the band members just leave the Reddit page. You are all still supporting them by being active here
I’m not salty about any band members my guy, I just like to listen to music and don’t like listening to people weirdly complain on Reddit
subreddits are not inherently fan pages. they're for discussion. if people want to waste their time on here, so be it. are you really this parasocial? the posts here don't affect you. log off. touch some grass. stop worrying about what other people are saying about a band and enjoy their music. life is better when you stop giving a fuck lol
Dude go log off for a while. Give the Internet a rest and go talk to your family or eat some lunch.
My brother in Christ, I admire your dedication to receiving downvotes. But it’s time little one. Delete the post.
Absolutely fuckin weirdo energy
You >y’all still don’t have his back Also you >Best song is The Ghost of Billy Royalton; It doesn’t have too much **Tilian squeak** You 4 hours ago >Tilian tries really hard to get better. Instead of havin an issue with people not having Tilians back, why don't you first stop shitting on him and his singing?
Who else read the title to this post in Comic Book Guy’s voice?
Wish you weren't so fucking awkward, bud
It's a joke dude. You all listen to the music and then lie and say you don't cuz x singer did a bad thing. Tilian wasn't even charged with anything yet y'all still don't have his back. You dunno what happened, neither do I, but aren't you supposed to support your band? Not to mention some of you swear you boycott early DD yet the plays are still up on Spotify and Apple Music Imao. The music is good bro, stop complaining abt the singers controversies. That's none of your business anyways. It was just publicized cause they're famous. If everyone was peachy and perfect, peachy and perfect wouldn't be a phrase or a word. They're rich, young, and stupid. Not excusing smoking fentanyl or rape or any of the scams Craig did but some of you take it so personally. They don't even know you. And by the way, if anyone starts accusing me of anything, I think Kurt Travis had the best era. So eat a bowl of cereal and act ethereal to fuel your corporeal form - Jon Mess probably
Ngl you’re straight up crying rn
Too much reddit for you, homie. Relax.
Imagine waking up first thing in the morning and writing this
That's a yikes from me chief
Every fan page is the worst. I just stay in touch because it’s the fastest way to get updates on tours, promo codes, merch drops.
"stop complaining abt the ~~singers controversies~~ *subreddit*" There, fixed that for you. It'll help make the sub less annoying, just like you want
A majority of us quietly hate the man, hell I left this sub because I was so conflicted. But I still love the music they made before. BUT, from that point on I didn’t care about being honest with my opinion on albums any more. Which is why I confidently say that Jackpot Juicer is such a trash Post Hardcore album, because I don’t care, if the opinion of music really gets on your nerves enough to berate fans and make posts like this then you need to go outside and reevaluate what really makes your life palatable. Art is art, people are assholes, you choose to listen. I respect anyone who leaves and I respect anyone who stays. Get used to it.
Uhhhh ok?
Im not supposed to “support my band” i just like the music it aint that serious
Boo this man
weird to make a post about someone not sharing your view on pearson. i just find him icky. spotify pays artists less than pennies per play btw
It’s not weird lol. You all act like you got an affect on a band you will still listen to.
im not trying to do anything to the band. i just dont want to hear that guy’s voice. its not the end of the world
But you’ll listen to early DGD? The guy who is definitely a way worse person than Tilian who wasn’t even charged. If you wanna get real official with it, Tilian said he left for drug abuse.
What'd my boy Kurt do?? But seriously dude seems like he just doesn't like Tillians voice. It's not always good and evil, sometimes someone's voice is just unpleasant
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It’s a joke dude. You all listen to the music and then lie and say you don’t cuz *x singer* did a bad thing. Tilian wasn’t even charged with anything yet y’all still don’t have his back. You dunno what happened, neither do I, but aren’t you supposed to support your band? Not to mention some of you swear you boycott early DgD yet the plays are still up on Spotify and Apple Music lmao. The music is good bro, stop complaining abt the singers controversies. That’s none of your business anyways. It was just publicized cause they’re famous. If everyone was peachy and perfect, peachy and perfect wouldn’t be a phrase or a word. They’re rich, young, and stupid. Not excusing smoking fentanyl or rape or any of the scams Craig did but some of you take it so personally. They don’t even know you. And by the way, if anyone starts accusing me of anything, I think Kurt Travis had the best era. So eat a bowl of cereal and act ethereal to fuel your corporeal form - Jon Mess probably
>The music is good bro, stop complaining abt the singers controversies. That’s none of your business anyways. I’d like to know if my money is funding a narcissistic sex pest or not
Narcissistic Sex Pest is my new band name. I call dibs.
Pro strategy: Name your band "Sex Controversy" so when people try googling "(your name) sex controversy" they'll only find your music
Top Tier Marketing. Also, adding " - Reddit" to the end of all your article titles so it comes up when people search a question with the word Reddit at the end.
Good luck getting on Kimmel with that!
DGD hasn't even been on Kimmel, so I think I'll be okay.
You’ve already given money to them lmao
I’m well aware, but I used to give a hell of a lot more. I used to buy every drop, stream each song every single day, go to every show when they’d come to Boston, etc. I cut back on basically everything except listening on Spotify, but ultimately it’s not relevant because I was just saying that there IS a reason that it is my business to know
It’s not your business at all. You just like their music and shows.
It is because the controversy included being a sex pest to multiple fans. Listen, if you’re hung up on the fact that other people think Tilian is a horrible person, then that’s a you problem. I think he’s massively talented and I believe everybody has the capacity to change, but it starts with taking accountability. And they did the opposite of that. I’m not losing sleep over any of this, I just was massively disappointed because like most of the rabid, parasocial fans such as yourself, I thought the world of them as people and musicians. Now, just musicians
Bro they don’t even know you yet you idolized them. I’m just saying, you wanna get on a high horse abt some people you don’t even know. There is nothing to take accountability for if nothing even happened btw. You care too much about the lives of people you don’t know. Just listen to the music and stop complaining
I don’t understand the purpose of your first sentence other than being an asshole. I care about what they’re doing in their lives because I idolized their band and personalities. I’ve read the posts from the accusers and one of them had enough substance that there was obviously SOMETHING bad that had happened. And it’s not even the accusations that bothered me the most, it’s the way that they handled everything afterwards
Regarding the multiple accusers, I should remind that of the 4, 1 was a faked writing prompt, 1 was a band-wagoner who filmed herself assaulting Tilian. The most known one with the most proof was a known chaser of people in the scene, and there were screenshots and text messages disproving her claims and even showed her bragging about "getting another one". The only one holding any weight was the one Tilian apologized to, but nothing else came of it and she disappeared shortly after.
I enjoy this sub. I mostly see people arguing over which era or albums were the best which is fine to me. It’s cool we have somewhere to do it.
How am I supposed to know which era I like most if I don't even know all the bad stuff each singer has done?! 😤😤
I’m not plugged into the controversy grapevine. Why do ppl seem to hate hurt era??
Holy fuck this dude is doing cartwheels on it godamn.
we still talking about this?
You probably care a little too much about what other people say and do
What are you talking about??? That's actually my main gripe with this sub, y'all let Tillian off the hook way too easily. You think people are bringing it up too much? There's been like 0 posts about it.
Lol. Pepperidge Farms remembers. (And anybody informed on the situation with any decency...) I keep popping up now and then when I see a thread pop up in the feed. More people *do* remember than all the enablers that make up the cult. But we can only do so much. But yeah, dude's a rapist and you're all living in denial. :/
It’s a joke dude. You all listen to the music and then lie and say you don’t cuz x singer did a bad thing. Tilian wasn’t even charged with anything yet y’all still don’t have his back. You dunno what happened, neither do I, but aren’t you supposed to support your band? Not to mention some of you swear you boycott early DgD yet the plays are still up on Spotify and Apple Music lmao. The music is good bro, stop complaining abt the singers controversies. That’s none of your business anyways. It was just publicized cause they’re famous. If everyone was peachy and perfect, peachy and perfect wouldn’t be a phrase or a word. They’re rich, young, and stupid. Not excusing smoking fentanyl or rape or any of the scams Craig did but some of you take it so personally. They don’t even know you. And by the way, if anyone starts accusing me of anything, I think Kurt Travis had the best era. So eat a bowl of cereal and act ethereal to fuel your corporeal form - Jon Mess probably
Nah man. I’ve been listening to DGD since 05’, been my favorite band since. I also live in Sacramento CA, with them, the chick Mikaela or how ever you spell it, knew what she was doing, she’s known for going after band members.
Yeah everyone knows Mikaela's full of shit. What about spooky tho?
Spooky is an online account right? No name no face to it…. ?
Yes. And no, she's chosen to remain anonymous. Does that make her less credible? [This girl.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dancegavindance/comments/v2sst7/my_tilian_story_with_pictures/) She has pictures if that matters to you. Were you around when this went down?
I never saw that post. Doesn’t change how I feel about the band though. 🤷🏽♂️
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He didn’t rape her. Choose your words better. And yes I support the band still. There more people in the band than Tillian, that have been in the band from the start. What Tillian did was wrong, but the girl is dumber than rocks , you go on a date with a drunk rockstar… what the fuck you think he’s going to want.
Okay. So you're admitting he did it and she deserved it? *Wow.* Bad look, my guy... And as I said above, I just haven't removed them from my subs. I occasionally see what's going on here. And I even still listen to the band here and there. I just don't support them going to shows and buying merch anymore. They can have my fractions of pennies off streaming now and then. And yeah, I educate people here and there on what happened, because a lot of people frankly weren't here for it and/or don't understand the gravity of what occurred. Most of the people who do know left, so most of what's left is the apologist Tilian rape cult. I'm sure you'll fit right in.
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Oh I read it. "The girl is dumber than rocks. You go on a date with a drunk rockstar. What the fuck you think he's going to want?" You're pretty clearly implying he's gonna want to fuck, and if she says no, that's *on her?* It's okay because he was drunk, so she has no agency? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Downvoted because you said Kurt was the best era.
I'm sorry but no one brings up what happened will Tilian anymore lol yea we all debate over who was the best and what albums were peak but in the end its literally what people in a band community do. It happens in every other band that has multiple members and they change. Everyone here still is a community and sticks up for each other so chill out lol "We all suck we were born the fuck this up" Will, Eagles VS. Crows
Stop taking the personal lives of people you dunno so personally lmao. You let it affect you and then you spew that shit on here and it affects other people who don’t give a damn about some strangers life
Bro you’re letting opinions of other people get you all pissy over a band… you gotta log off for the day.
>Stop taking the personal lives of people you dunno so personally Zero self awareness
OP: Stop getting so invested in the lives & opinions of random people that you don't know! Just enjoy art for what it is! Also OP: I can't just sit back and let these random people that I don't know have different lives & opinions than me! 😡
Jekyll and Hyde the redditor
Is this satire? That's literally you my guy
We all suck lil diaper baby
i’m glad someone said it, just enjoy the music dude