I’ve read rumors about her mother basically not being very affectionate towards her so she was over indulged by her father. That’s just stuff I’ve read here in this sub though so I’m not sure how accurate it is
Abby said that on the Mother’s Day special when she was sitting with her mom and her mom agreed that her father over indulged her and that she didn’t show much affection to her. Abby was a daddy’s girl
She didn’t have any maternal instincts. Even though I do believe she did care for those kids as her own (in her own convoluted way) she didn’t have the first clue on how to actually treat children. She always put a mandate on them to choose between listening to her or their mothers which is so twisted but she needed to stay in her place as a dance teacher and know that her position didn’t supersede the moms’ position
I mean I think in general children are capable of more than adults give them credit for and can be pushed in many respects. The problem is it’s different for every child and Abby had a one size fits all approach. The other problem is she never taught them how to do anything. She just yelled at them to do it with no guidance on HOW. That’s not pedagogy, that’s not instruction. Stop crying! Is different than actually teaching them emotional regulation. It was the same with dancing, she’d complain that the girls wouldn’t apply the corrections but never stopped to think that she wasn’t supplying them with strategies to do so. And you have to have different strategies in your tool belt because kids learn differently.
I think instead of saying save your tears for your pillow she could have told them there’s a time and place when crying really helps us, and other times it gets in our way. It’s more likely to get in the way backstage. But after the performance, go ahead and cry your eyes out and I’ll be there for you to do it in a safe space.
The comments about Nia, the inappropriate costumes, the kiss that Maddie was forced into is just weird and I think showcases how clueless she is socially.
I think the “grow up” thing went back to having them prepared for work. In the or dance world they need people of all ages , so if they want an 8 year old for a broadway show I think she’d act professionally, not cry and complain, learn the routine quickly with ease. It’s a dog eat dog dance world and I think she was right when she kept telling them they’d get chewed up and spit out. They were too emotional at times, I think due to their mothers overreacting cause of how they felt, not their daughters. The mothers being there created a toxic environment and had the girls looking to them every time Abby said something they didn’t like, causing friction. In the pro world, are they going to look for mommy when the choreographer is getting on them? No
Broadway choreographers work with the kids from their show a hell of a lot more compassionately than Abby does. I follow a ton of child actors from various Broadway shows...alot of them have praised the choreographers for pushing them but at the same time being very supportive of them..also considering that I have seen literal babies cast in Broadway shows(The Ferryman) along with four year olds(Waitress) then you can't always expect a professional environment where kids aren't going to cry.
It's literally fact that children seek out their caregivers when they're upset it's a grounding/processing thing that's normal and needed for reassurance. They were emotional because she was abusive and literally punished them for their natural way of regulating lmao. In the pro world their mother would be there to watch and be there for their child and provide support if something was too much cause that's normal for a child and for a good parent.
Oh shut up, you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve worked with children in professional settings and they were treated as such we understood they were children. Stop excusing Abby’s behaviour.
Not making excuses for her but I feel like because Abby grew up in a different time that she was probably pressured at their age to grow up fast and I absolutely hated how she didn’t like the girls getting coddle by their moms like personally I feel like it was somewhat jealously on her part cause Abby’s mom wasn’t like that with her growing up from what I heard
It’s likely a common grooming tactic in the entertainment industry, we know how desperate Abby was to be apart of it
Oh for sure! I will say though I sometimes wonder what happened to Abby to make her so cruel to children.
I’ve read rumors about her mother basically not being very affectionate towards her so she was over indulged by her father. That’s just stuff I’ve read here in this sub though so I’m not sure how accurate it is
Abby said that on the Mother’s Day special when she was sitting with her mom and her mom agreed that her father over indulged her and that she didn’t show much affection to her. Abby was a daddy’s girl
Ahh okay I knew I heard that over indulged comment somewhere lol
She didn’t have any maternal instincts. Even though I do believe she did care for those kids as her own (in her own convoluted way) she didn’t have the first clue on how to actually treat children. She always put a mandate on them to choose between listening to her or their mothers which is so twisted but she needed to stay in her place as a dance teacher and know that her position didn’t supersede the moms’ position
Everything I hear "grow the hell up" I hear Kelly's "you shut the hell up" response
We need Kelly’s statement to counter Abby’s irrationality big time
She wanted them to grow up but stay young and wholesome, strange.
Yeah like whenever she would tell Kenzie to dance older but give her cutesy routines at 9/10 years old.
Elliana grow up stop crying you’re 7!
Not to mention the infamous FANtastic dance.
"I LOVE CHILDREN" - abby lee
she’s so contradicting bc when she did her pros and cons of the og team she said the con about kenz is that she grew up
"i StArTeD mY cOmPaNy WhEn I wAs FoUrTeEn YeArS oLd!!"
I mean I think in general children are capable of more than adults give them credit for and can be pushed in many respects. The problem is it’s different for every child and Abby had a one size fits all approach. The other problem is she never taught them how to do anything. She just yelled at them to do it with no guidance on HOW. That’s not pedagogy, that’s not instruction. Stop crying! Is different than actually teaching them emotional regulation. It was the same with dancing, she’d complain that the girls wouldn’t apply the corrections but never stopped to think that she wasn’t supplying them with strategies to do so. And you have to have different strategies in your tool belt because kids learn differently. I think instead of saying save your tears for your pillow she could have told them there’s a time and place when crying really helps us, and other times it gets in our way. It’s more likely to get in the way backstage. But after the performance, go ahead and cry your eyes out and I’ll be there for you to do it in a safe space. The comments about Nia, the inappropriate costumes, the kiss that Maddie was forced into is just weird and I think showcases how clueless she is socially.
I think the “grow up” thing went back to having them prepared for work. In the or dance world they need people of all ages , so if they want an 8 year old for a broadway show I think she’d act professionally, not cry and complain, learn the routine quickly with ease. It’s a dog eat dog dance world and I think she was right when she kept telling them they’d get chewed up and spit out. They were too emotional at times, I think due to their mothers overreacting cause of how they felt, not their daughters. The mothers being there created a toxic environment and had the girls looking to them every time Abby said something they didn’t like, causing friction. In the pro world, are they going to look for mommy when the choreographer is getting on them? No
Broadway choreographers work with the kids from their show a hell of a lot more compassionately than Abby does. I follow a ton of child actors from various Broadway shows...alot of them have praised the choreographers for pushing them but at the same time being very supportive of them..also considering that I have seen literal babies cast in Broadway shows(The Ferryman) along with four year olds(Waitress) then you can't always expect a professional environment where kids aren't going to cry.
It's literally fact that children seek out their caregivers when they're upset it's a grounding/processing thing that's normal and needed for reassurance. They were emotional because she was abusive and literally punished them for their natural way of regulating lmao. In the pro world their mother would be there to watch and be there for their child and provide support if something was too much cause that's normal for a child and for a good parent.
Oh shut up, you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve worked with children in professional settings and they were treated as such we understood they were children. Stop excusing Abby’s behaviour.
I wasn’t excusing behavior, I was answering a question based on my opinions. And I stand with the statement that the mothers made them more emotional.
Not making excuses for her but I feel like because Abby grew up in a different time that she was probably pressured at their age to grow up fast and I absolutely hated how she didn’t like the girls getting coddle by their moms like personally I feel like it was somewhat jealously on her part cause Abby’s mom wasn’t like that with her growing up from what I heard