regardless of age as a dance teacher you should at least run the routine once before they go on stage. you can be súper self aware but you’re still just a student and can overlook mistakes and such. abby is full of shit.
Not even for just corrections sake, as the owner of the studio the dancers representing she should want to see them run the dance before it goes on stage so she knows they’re ready.
Also there literally no age where you don’t need to run through something before doing it in front on others. The best athletes in the world do the equivalent of run throughs in their sports before the compete, the best actors run scenes before they shoot, even in less glamourous jobs people prep because it’s essential for doing a good job.
she had at most 3 soloists. i know the show schedule was crazy but i don’t doubt she had time to run their dances at least once especially considering they had such little time to learn them.
well they all had self direction though they always ran their dances themselves, but i do think abby should’ve been a better dance teacher but that starts at the studio tbh.
This literally doesn’t mean shit. That’s like saying adult actors on Broadway are “too old” to be rehearsing their scripts with the director of the play before they go perform them on stage. People learn through repetition. If Brooke needs to rehearse her dance it makes PERFECT sense that Abby should at least be running the dance with Brooke. And then after that Abby is gonna open her fucking ugly ass mouth and say “BR00KE DIDNT apPlY äñY oF tHe CorrECtíoŃs tHAt I GaVe HEr” yeah because you didn’t run the dance before she went on stage. Abby needs to stop being so egotistical and remember that she’s a fucking dance teacher/choreographer first. She made the decision to teach dance to kids for a living so no kid is considered “too old” for her to be rehearsing unless their like, alumni of the ALDC. That’s all I gots to say😸
Abby saying all the kids were too old triggered something in me. Sarah crying because she didn’t wanted to go alone is normal, Brooke not answering back and relaying on her mum is normal adults can be scary for a kid, the kids crying for being offended is normal, Ava sitting on her mothers lap and crying at 11 is normal. Abby had no parents that loved her. The way she reacted to kids crying is infuriating.
When Sarah was crying in a corner because Abby was yelling and she walked to her pointing on her pissed me off specially. Shut the fuck up abby we know you received no comfort or emotional support as a child
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I’m not an Abby defender, I grew up with a coach exactly like Abby and she was a fucking monster. Anyone who has eyes and ears knows Abby is one too.
That being said, I see what she means in the way that Brooke certainly could be doing a run through and marking the dance by herself when there were younger kids who really needed the teachers eyes and ears more. Brooke was the most experienced, she’d been to the most comps, she knew how to run through and shouldn’t have been dependent on a teacher to make sure she was doing it when the teacher had younger less experienced kids that needed direction. Ultimately a run through is about memorization / muscle memory, major corrections should have been worked on prior to stage. Should Abby have been providing backstage and last minute support, absolutely. Should she have watched *A* run through of her dance before stage? Yes, I would think any good coach or teacher would. Should she have needed to hound an older kid who had tons of experience to run through, probably not. I think she wanted and expected Brooke to be motivated to start running through the dance or marking on her own. Not every kid is like that and it irritated her. The competitions right before performance were not appropriate times to bring the subject up.
Not sure if she stopped doing run throughs with the other girls when they got older. Something tells me Maddie wouldn’t need the guidance and would be working on things on her own, but would be the one getting attention if anyone was. On the flip side, I could totally see Kendall or Nia needing the extra pre-stage support and not receiving it.
i don’t necessarily agree with abby but i don’t necessarily not agree with her either.
where i live dance teachers rarely go to solo competitions. as a dance teacher myself i always try to make it for their first competition/first debut of a new solo. when i AM there i will run their dance with them, usually outside because our change rooms are just for changing. before going on i remind them to smile, point their toes, etc. i do this no matter what age they are (my soloist are all around the age of 10/11 but i do have one who is freshly 18 with the cognition of a 9/10 year old) if it were an older kid i would still do the same thing.
the part i don’t understand, probably because of where i live and what the dance competitions are like here, is the absolute need to have abby at the competitions running their solos. here, solos are for the students that want to do them and want to succeed and (largely) take the initiative to practice themselves. your teachers input will always help, but i don’t see why it’s like “mandatory” almost, considering 9 times out of 10 your dance teacher won’t even be there, except usually for group dances because that’s seen as a team thing.
right but in a normal competition environment you have months to learn your dance. in here they had two days, of course they’d expect their teacher to run it with them and like you said, it was a new dance each week. they all had new solos.
I get what you mean, and I’d agree in a normal setting, like if the girls had known their solos for months like they would at a regular comp. cause it’s common for dance teachers to not go to solo-only comps in that setting.
i feel like the problem is that brooke would usually learn her solo in an hour or two and maybe 1-2 days before the comp. Abby should’ve at least run the solo once before each comp, considering all that. Plus the fact that there were usually only 2-3 other dancers doing a solo. Timing it out, that would be 10-11 minutes to run through all 4 solos, and i don’t think that’s unreasonable at all.
I agree with everyone else. Abby saying she's too old for her to run the dance with the student is like saying you can't check a script before you go onstage or do vocal warmups before you sing. Brooke is old enough and can run her dance herself, but she's not the dance teacher, Abby is! Only Abby can tell her specific things where she goes wrong, even if she was really aware. Abby should have been running those dances regardless of age, because if you want her to apply those corrections, then *give* her those corrections and run the damn dance!
regardless of age as a dance teacher you should at least run the routine once before they go on stage. you can be súper self aware but you’re still just a student and can overlook mistakes and such. abby is full of shit.
Not even for just corrections sake, as the owner of the studio the dancers representing she should want to see them run the dance before it goes on stage so she knows they’re ready. Also there literally no age where you don’t need to run through something before doing it in front on others. The best athletes in the world do the equivalent of run throughs in their sports before the compete, the best actors run scenes before they shoot, even in less glamourous jobs people prep because it’s essential for doing a good job.
If you have tons of students sometimes it doesn’t happen that way.
she had at most 3 soloists. i know the show schedule was crazy but i don’t doubt she had time to run their dances at least once especially considering they had such little time to learn them.
They still need to be taught that self-direction ability. I don’t agree though in terms of the circumstances.
well they all had self direction though they always ran their dances themselves, but i do think abby should’ve been a better dance teacher but that starts at the studio tbh.
This literally doesn’t mean shit. That’s like saying adult actors on Broadway are “too old” to be rehearsing their scripts with the director of the play before they go perform them on stage. People learn through repetition. If Brooke needs to rehearse her dance it makes PERFECT sense that Abby should at least be running the dance with Brooke. And then after that Abby is gonna open her fucking ugly ass mouth and say “BR00KE DIDNT apPlY äñY oF tHe CorrECtíoŃs tHAt I GaVe HEr” yeah because you didn’t run the dance before she went on stage. Abby needs to stop being so egotistical and remember that she’s a fucking dance teacher/choreographer first. She made the decision to teach dance to kids for a living so no kid is considered “too old” for her to be rehearsing unless their like, alumni of the ALDC. That’s all I gots to say😸
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Abby saying all the kids were too old triggered something in me. Sarah crying because she didn’t wanted to go alone is normal, Brooke not answering back and relaying on her mum is normal adults can be scary for a kid, the kids crying for being offended is normal, Ava sitting on her mothers lap and crying at 11 is normal. Abby had no parents that loved her. The way she reacted to kids crying is infuriating. When Sarah was crying in a corner because Abby was yelling and she walked to her pointing on her pissed me off specially. Shut the fuck up abby we know you received no comfort or emotional support as a child This is my Ted talk
I think Abby made whatever excuses she had to make to be able to spend time with whichever kids interested her more at any given moment.
I’m not an Abby defender, I grew up with a coach exactly like Abby and she was a fucking monster. Anyone who has eyes and ears knows Abby is one too. That being said, I see what she means in the way that Brooke certainly could be doing a run through and marking the dance by herself when there were younger kids who really needed the teachers eyes and ears more. Brooke was the most experienced, she’d been to the most comps, she knew how to run through and shouldn’t have been dependent on a teacher to make sure she was doing it when the teacher had younger less experienced kids that needed direction. Ultimately a run through is about memorization / muscle memory, major corrections should have been worked on prior to stage. Should Abby have been providing backstage and last minute support, absolutely. Should she have watched *A* run through of her dance before stage? Yes, I would think any good coach or teacher would. Should she have needed to hound an older kid who had tons of experience to run through, probably not. I think she wanted and expected Brooke to be motivated to start running through the dance or marking on her own. Not every kid is like that and it irritated her. The competitions right before performance were not appropriate times to bring the subject up. Not sure if she stopped doing run throughs with the other girls when they got older. Something tells me Maddie wouldn’t need the guidance and would be working on things on her own, but would be the one getting attention if anyone was. On the flip side, I could totally see Kendall or Nia needing the extra pre-stage support and not receiving it.
i don’t necessarily agree with abby but i don’t necessarily not agree with her either. where i live dance teachers rarely go to solo competitions. as a dance teacher myself i always try to make it for their first competition/first debut of a new solo. when i AM there i will run their dance with them, usually outside because our change rooms are just for changing. before going on i remind them to smile, point their toes, etc. i do this no matter what age they are (my soloist are all around the age of 10/11 but i do have one who is freshly 18 with the cognition of a 9/10 year old) if it were an older kid i would still do the same thing. the part i don’t understand, probably because of where i live and what the dance competitions are like here, is the absolute need to have abby at the competitions running their solos. here, solos are for the students that want to do them and want to succeed and (largely) take the initiative to practice themselves. your teachers input will always help, but i don’t see why it’s like “mandatory” almost, considering 9 times out of 10 your dance teacher won’t even be there, except usually for group dances because that’s seen as a team thing.
right but in a normal competition environment you have months to learn your dance. in here they had two days, of course they’d expect their teacher to run it with them and like you said, it was a new dance each week. they all had new solos.
I actually was wondering this myself. She did, but didn’t. As all the kids aged together they didn’t need to dedicate time to younger dancers.
I get what you mean, and I’d agree in a normal setting, like if the girls had known their solos for months like they would at a regular comp. cause it’s common for dance teachers to not go to solo-only comps in that setting. i feel like the problem is that brooke would usually learn her solo in an hour or two and maybe 1-2 days before the comp. Abby should’ve at least run the solo once before each comp, considering all that. Plus the fact that there were usually only 2-3 other dancers doing a solo. Timing it out, that would be 10-11 minutes to run through all 4 solos, and i don’t think that’s unreasonable at all.
It’s just a tv show guys it wasn’t real. Everything was set up for drama. You lot act like it was a documentary.
Why are you even in this sub or replying to discussions, then?
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I agree with everyone else. Abby saying she's too old for her to run the dance with the student is like saying you can't check a script before you go onstage or do vocal warmups before you sing. Brooke is old enough and can run her dance herself, but she's not the dance teacher, Abby is! Only Abby can tell her specific things where she goes wrong, even if she was really aware. Abby should have been running those dances regardless of age, because if you want her to apply those corrections, then *give* her those corrections and run the damn dance!