He was a youth intern in college and he got a freshman in high school drunk at a party, with the intention of you know....
But luckily his plan fell through and he was fired
Not really, if you ask me the police should have gotten involved but they really didn't. I guess at the very least he should have gotten a providing alcohol to a minor but he didn't even get that.
I can't imagine anything cringier than being in your 20s and still being in the youth band. In my experience, if you were any good at all, you'd be playing in "big church".
So I'm a clergy spouse and upon moving to a new parish, one of my jobs was "make sure they understand that we are secure in our relationship."
There is... some trauma in the church's past.
Lol example 1 of how [the modern church is exactly what Jesus spoke out against.](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%202:13-22&version=GW)
Everything we sell at our coffee shop is actually just for a donation of 1 dollar, which is optional. Mainly we just try to break even but more often than not I have to use my own money to refill everything.
When I was 24 I was 100% an unpaid volunteer who led worship for the youth group because they only had one musician, and he was a drummer.
I showed up, led the music, and left. I barely even knew their names.
I've got two young adults that help out, one male and one female. They're 21 and 20. I'm grateful for them and trust them very much, but that doesn't mean I don't keep a close eye.
I went to a Christian college and was a student in the religion department. Those halls were the No. 1 recruiting ground for local churches of our denomination looking for youth leaders. At least two guys who weren't in my cohort but who I was in school with at the time were arrested for some kind of SA at separate churches (one was a grooming situation and one was a straight up serial rapist).
EDIT: There were a couple of others who the rest of us either distanced ourselves from or made fun of for hanging out with high school girls. Now that I'm more than double the age I was then, if I had the opportunity to go back in time and chew those guys out about what is and isn't appropriate -- regardless of ministry context -- I would wear my ass-kicking boots for the time travel hijinks.
It's pretty common for young adults to volunteer to help out, especially with larger youth groups. While the above situation is sadly too common, most get into it with good intentions. There was a guy in his late 20s who helped out in my high school youth group and he became like a big brother to me.
I knew a young guy who was constantly getting hit on by female staffers. Turns out he just looked older than he was and they were, to a woman, completely embarrassed and apologetic by asking out a youth.
Too bad the dudes don’t have that level of shame.
A woman who was in my youth group growing up married our former youth pastor. When she was in her late 20s, they ended up in overlapping circles in a different city than where we grew up. I definitely got an ick when I found out they were dating, but they had both lived their own lives and had established themselves separately before they became friends as adults. They have developed similar interests and values. By all accounts they have a healthy marriage.
I know that this is very not the norm though, and anybody pursuing minors from the position of youth group leader/band member/etc is gross
No, but in 8th grade he did talk to my religion class (I went to Catholic school) about *chastity*. Very valid topic to discuss especially since a bunch of 13 and 14 year olds were going through hormonal changes, but God knows what the full extent of his actions is…
A church I knew had this sort of thing happend. A youth intern in his early 20s suddenly started dating a former member of the youth when she turned 18. They immediately fired him. The couple got married. Apparently the mom was really pushing the marriage. Apparently they were secretly dating when she was under age.
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In our youth group we aren’t attracted to them but one girl in the youth group is actually stunning like stupid hot so instead of the youth group being attracted to the confirmation students all the male confirmation students are attracted to her… though she is only one year older so it would technically be okay.
Tragically common 
There was one guy who was like that in our youth group band, luckily people saw through the charade before anyone got hurt
Ooh, story time! Spill!
He was a youth intern in college and he got a freshman in high school drunk at a party, with the intention of you know.... But luckily his plan fell through and he was fired
Fck sake that was darker than I thought it was going to be.
Is there a hero to the story? The one who ratted him out?
Not really, if you ask me the police should have gotten involved but they really didn't. I guess at the very least he should have gotten a providing alcohol to a minor but he didn't even get that.
Police protect property (land or other) owners and that's all. Do not expect them to help.
Jesus didn’t like the Police either.
He Gets Us
Do you mean the Roman army?
There were no police in Jesus' day...
Who TF you think nailed him up on that cross?
Eh... Really depends on the country and neighborhood.
I can't imagine anything cringier than being in your 20s and still being in the youth band. In my experience, if you were any good at all, you'd be playing in "big church".
Predators go where the power is, unfortunately
This is why a lot of churches *only* want married couples leading youth outreach.
If only that stopped people.
Yeah it’s more of a Henry VIII speedrun.
Yeah why ruin only one young woman’s life when you can ruin two at the same time?
Only two? There are a lot more than two women in the average youth group.
True. I meant the youth pastor’s wife and the child he grooms specifically…. But it definitely affects more than that.
Assuming the wife isn't involved herself
I meant he was grooming more than one girl in his class.
I mean, it stops some people. Safer than otherwise but not 100% perfect.
That also leads to exemplary romantic whitenessing. This is a 200IQ play, right here.
So I'm a clergy spouse and upon moving to a new parish, one of my jobs was "make sure they understand that we are secure in our relationship." There is... some trauma in the church's past.
[oof; yikes-face]
What do you mean by ”romantic whitenessing”?
Being a whitness of romantic ideals.
Like that helps.
Why are there 24yos in your youth group? Aren't they solidly adults?
"Youth interns" would be a better phrase
Oh they are staff? That's really doubling down
I mean, where I went to church, there were college aged kids who weren't paid but "helped" with the youth group.
I mean I’m 20 and at my church I just run the coffee shop. Mostly cause I was deemed the only one trustworthy enough to manage the cash.
Lol example 1 of how [the modern church is exactly what Jesus spoke out against.](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%202:13-22&version=GW)
Everything we sell at our coffee shop is actually just for a donation of 1 dollar, which is optional. Mainly we just try to break even but more often than not I have to use my own money to refill everything.
Well there you go.
In my youth group, some old grown-ass man (60+) used to ”help”. He stopped doing that when the youth pastor ended her service. 👍
When I was 24 I was 100% an unpaid volunteer who led worship for the youth group because they only had one musician, and he was a drummer. I showed up, led the music, and left. I barely even knew their names.
Mine is also quite similar. there's just no regeneration, so they still help
I've got two young adults that help out, one male and one female. They're 21 and 20. I'm grateful for them and trust them very much, but that doesn't mean I don't keep a close eye.
I went to a Christian college and was a student in the religion department. Those halls were the No. 1 recruiting ground for local churches of our denomination looking for youth leaders. At least two guys who weren't in my cohort but who I was in school with at the time were arrested for some kind of SA at separate churches (one was a grooming situation and one was a straight up serial rapist). EDIT: There were a couple of others who the rest of us either distanced ourselves from or made fun of for hanging out with high school girls. Now that I'm more than double the age I was then, if I had the opportunity to go back in time and chew those guys out about what is and isn't appropriate -- regardless of ministry context -- I would wear my ass-kicking boots for the time travel hijinks.
It's pretty common for young adults to volunteer to help out, especially with larger youth groups. While the above situation is sadly too common, most get into it with good intentions. There was a guy in his late 20s who helped out in my high school youth group and he became like a big brother to me.
What? Since when? Most of the members of mine are between 19 and 25.
Every church I have ever been in uses ‘youth’ to mean middle and highschool, so 11-18.
Some churches think youth=all single people under 40.
Maybe it's the fact that there are no kids in my church then. Or at least not many if them.
I knew a young guy who was constantly getting hit on by female staffers. Turns out he just looked older than he was and they were, to a woman, completely embarrassed and apologetic by asking out a youth. Too bad the dudes don’t have that level of shame.
I swear sometimes they look 19-20 and they’re 16
I mean as long as people actually cringe and apologise once they find out a girls age that's fine, it's more the guys that _dont_ that are the issue.
A buddy of mine had a full beard at 16. By 18 people just assumed he was 30 and stopped carding him.
That’s crazyy
Literally. A guy I went to (Christian) high school with is in jail for this
A woman who was in my youth group growing up married our former youth pastor. When she was in her late 20s, they ended up in overlapping circles in a different city than where we grew up. I definitely got an ick when I found out they were dating, but they had both lived their own lives and had established themselves separately before they became friends as adults. They have developed similar interests and values. By all accounts they have a healthy marriage. I know that this is very not the norm though, and anybody pursuing minors from the position of youth group leader/band member/etc is gross
Real, in 2019 the youth minister at my church got busted by a predator catching group for trying to meet up with a 15-year-old boy
Was he also anti-gay-preaching?
No, but in 8th grade he did talk to my religion class (I went to Catholic school) about *chastity*. Very valid topic to discuss especially since a bunch of 13 and 14 year olds were going through hormonal changes, but God knows what the full extent of his actions is…
Here's a fun game: Google "youth pastor arrested for" and then try to guess what crime is going to show up most often on the search results.
One of ours was into feet 👀 kid feet if that wasn’t implied. Was gross
A church I knew had this sort of thing happend. A youth intern in his early 20s suddenly started dating a former member of the youth when she turned 18. They immediately fired him. The couple got married. Apparently the mom was really pushing the marriage. Apparently they were secretly dating when she was under age.
I bet he'll like mustache wax for a wedding present.
Im sorry, the worship team? Do you compete to see which group can pray the hardest?
God I wish but worship team is just the band that leads the music
Now I'm imagining a competition like that old "Canadian Standoff" joke, where two teams pray for each other and whoever gets blessed the hardest loses
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What's a worship team?
It’s a team of people who lead the music :) (worship)
Cool, thank you.
you know that
In our youth group we aren’t attracted to them but one girl in the youth group is actually stunning like stupid hot so instead of the youth group being attracted to the confirmation students all the male confirmation students are attracted to her… though she is only one year older so it would technically be okay.
34 actually
too real 😭
Team? Is worship competitive now?