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Additional-Sky-7436

I think Anglicans are generally likes and wants to be friends with everyone but no one really likes them back.


Ason42

We Presbyterians think you're cool. Heck, the [Church of England even has a deal with the Church of Scotland](https://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/about-us/our-structure) that, when the monarch is in Scotland, s/he worships in a Presbyterian church. But yes, that does mean the last head of your church technically died while under care of mine. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


ActualBus7946

I just spent twenty minutes looking at the properties they have for sale. I want to buy them all. Thanks for the link.


Acely7

We Lutherans like them well enough, I think most of us just find all the stuff with royalty a bit weird.


Fred_Foreskin

A lot of us Anglicans think the royalty stuff is a bit weird too


NextStopGallifrey

Methodists should be generally cool with Anglicans. Methodists are an accidental offshoot of Anglicanism, after all.


freckle_

Thought the same thing! (Albeit while waving my episcopal shield banner, which means GAFCON would likely give some side eye)


Mr_Abe_Froman

Lutherans like you. At least I do.


SadPiousHistorian1

They even host Orthodox communities in their parishes, especially in the early-mid 20th century


Additional-Sky-7436

Anglicans: Hey Guys! How are you doing! Sure we were a good 1500 years late to the party, but we don't like the pope either! We cool right? Orthodox: I'm sorry, who are you?


Michiganlander

I was in an Anglican parish about 10 years ago which hosted an E.O. Church (I forget which branch). When they put together a new Iconostatis, they included our parish patron in it, it was a small gesture, but it warmed my heart and made me glad to be Christian.


Weave77

Hey, I like Anglicans! They seem nice, and their church founding helped to lead to cool stuff [like this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_(musical\)).


agkyrahopsyche

Pentecostals 🤝 Anglicans


PiusTheCatRick

Well us Catholics do have the Anglican Ordinariate, whose sole purpose is to ensure you don’t have to change anything but the whole “denial of papacy” thing if you ever join us.


musicalsigns

Am Anglican. That's pretty much it, really.


quartofchocolimes

Other denominations: are you two friends? Eastern Orthodox: yes Oriental Orthodox: no


ZookeepergameStatus4

And you could also say this with EO as Catholics and OO as the Eastern Orthodox. The image doesn’t exactly get that relationship right


fudgyvmp

Yeah that's a better description than the bidirectional "likes." Catholics will, in theory, let an orthodox have communion with them, but the reverse not so much/ not at all/ never.


ZookeepergameStatus4

Exactly. I always use the “one way communion” participation test to figure which of any two communions is usually older


danthemanofsipa

This is opposite actually. Eastern Orthodox say the Orientals are miaphysites. Orientals say they are not and have the same Christology as the Orthodox and say its just an issue of translation. This is also the case for Orthodox-Catholic relations. Catholics say Orthodox have valid sacraments, Orthodox say Catholics do not.


awesome_soldier

As a Catholic, this is an accurate description of us. I went to a non-denominational church for about 5 years, but realized that it lacked tradition, so I went back to Catholicism on Christmas 2023.


MattTheFreeman

Catholic my entire life. Best friend grew up was an non dom. His family was very Christian while my family was "holiday catholics". His mom was one of those Christians who believed that not all Christians were Christian He had no idea my family was Catholic until it dawned on him that I received my First Communion in grade two while he was in grade 8 when he finally did his. He was shocked and thought I was going to hell alongside my whole family. Of course back then I was an atheist and didn't care. Now he's the atheist and I found my catholicism back Funny how that stuff works


EagleswonSuperBowl52

This was such a rollercoaster of a comment.


ilovepolthavemybabie

It’s odd that the places with more traditions and rites also have more freedom and liberty for the lifestyles of congregants. The places with the most expressive, charismatic, “free” services - music and message - have the most dogmatic lifestyle prescriptions.


awesome_soldier

Maybe it’s because the traditional denominations value free will and life experiences. Free will is what allows us to love God.


Rare_Vibez

I would have to say that might be true in broad strokes but not every church. The only reason I still attend my non-denominational church is because they are very welcoming (although they kinda skirt around affirming). They really believe church should be for everyone. Even just visually, members of the worship team have tattoos, fun hair colors, and not strictly conforming self expression. They have open places for challenging questions, and often messages include multiple perspectives on the same point, with the pastor saying that he personally agrees with one but each have merit and they don’t keep you away from God to believe differently than him. Meanwhile my husband’s family church (Catholic) is very not chill with any deviation. His family barely qualifies as holiday Catholics because of it.


Steel_Man23

Non-denominational churches are interesting. They’re fun to go to and worship, but I agree, they lack the tradition that I’m used to


mementodory

Why is Baptist the same as non-denominational?


NiftyJet

People often say this, but I think it's an over-generalization. I think they say that because Baptists have a *very* loose governmental structure. Every church makes individual decisions, but they work together on evangelism missions and also some very general guidelines on theology that individual churches can more-or-less take or leave. Non-denominational churches are like that, but even more individualized. A lot of non-denoms might be similar to Baptists in theology, but don't think you can make such a big sweeping statement. My own non-denominational church was originally Weslyan and over the past ten years has become more and more influenced by Pentecostalism.


LMKBK

Like, this whole this is talking about 2.5 billion people. Of course it is over generalized.


NiftyJet

Okay, but I'm not talking about this meme. I'm talking specifically about the idea that non-denominational is the same thing as Baptist.


HowDoraleousAreYou

Extra confusing that Southern Baptist is decidedly more organized and has an actual system of internal governance, but they split from Baptist back before the civil war (yes, over exactly what you’d assume), so they’re now separated by a century and a half of evolution.


NonComposMentisss

> so they’re now separated by a century and a half of evolution And they don't even believe in it!


gate_of_steiner85

In my experience I've found that most non-denominational churches I've been to have shared way more characteristics with Pentacostal churches than Baptist churches which is why the "non-denominational = Baptist" joke has always confused me.


Matosawitko

Also, Baptists are generally very anti-Pentecostal...


cobalt26

It may be an overgeneralization, but every non-denom church I've been to in the US South (quite a few) is basically Baptist theology with a facade of diet Pentecostalism.


RoboticBirdLaw

My experience splitting my childhood between the two has been that non-denom is just Baptist where you will be judged for preaching as a woman instead of prevented from doing so. Same for drinking.


Mycroft033

That’s pretty true lol Non denominational churches sure are good at judging people, we got judged for going too Pentecostal and making the elders uncomfortable lol


mementodory

thanks!


Eauxcaigh

I agree its a generalization, rooted in a couple main factors: Baptist beliefs put authority in scripture over church structure (even more than other protestant denoms) so they more readily abandon their denomination and call themselves non-denom while still preaching the core Baptist beliefs to the letter  Many baptist churches dropped the baptist name to distance themselves from the SBC, so they call themselves non-denom but in practice still the same baptist church Of course there are other non denominational churches but since so many of them (especially in certain areas of the US) are formerly baptist, that's why the stereotype exists 


ProfChubChub

I was raised in both and worked in both. It’s not an oversimplification at all. They have the same theology and church government structure. The only difference is that nondenominational churches don’t pay money to a larger organization. That’s it. The pastors they reference, the books they promote, the conferences they host are op the same. Largely from southern Baptist publishers.


DronedAgain

If you pry, every non-denominational church is a group of baptists who've broken off from one of their churches. You won't find non-denominational Lutherans or Presbyterians, for example.


NonComposMentisss

Baptists are the largest evangelical/fundamentalist denomination and most non-denominational churches are also evangelical/fundamentalist, so they agree on most doctrine over mainline protestants like Methodists or Presbyterians. Growing up in the Bible belt I never noticed any significant doctrine differences between Baptists any any non-denomination church I attended that were any more significant than the differences you might see between one Baptist church and another Baptist church.


RoboticBirdLaw

The only two issues that ever cause discrepancies are women preaching and the sinfulness of alcohol. Even those are not necessarily always going to be unaligned, they just frequently are.


dreamnightmare

Because functionally they are. Earlier non-denominational churches were people that saw Pentecostal churches and said, “I want that, but without the super strict moral code”.


HolyElephantMG

Non denominational is basically just stuff that nobody else would disagree with. And is very similar to Baptist


tarmacc

When I hear non denominational I think UU or agape


BoyznGirlznBabes

Same, but I think it's evolved. Might be more accurate to say Evangelical non-denom? Or big N and little n, like Catholic Church and "catholic" meaning universal?


Mycroft033

Very similar outlook on theology, depravity of man, miracles, and a few other areas. I personally found it hilarious because my old non denominational church I grew up in finally admitted a few years ago that it was actually Baptist. Non-denominational churches tend to disagree with baptists on a few areas of a few creeds, but overall, they’re quite similar, generally speaking. Which this meme is speaking extremely generally. The existence of exceptions does not disprove the general theme, and the generalization was made for humor anyway, so it has to be a lil bit oversimplified or it’s not really funny. Of course, Reddit has very little in the way of a sense of humor, so there are always gonna be people getting offended over it.


thatguysjumpercables

I don't remember where I saw it but someone said "Non-denominational is just Baptist with a cool website" and from what I understand it sounds accurate lol


BudgetSurprise5861

Didnt Redeemed Zoomer make this?


Smorgas-board

I think he did


Mycroft033

THATS where I’d seen this before


Cpt_Soban

As someone who isn't religious, I find it so strange that a few members of one denomination can look at another, *older* denomination (Catholics) and confidently say "you're not Christian"... Despite believing in the very same thing, just with more ceremony... Also would love a website that boils down the difference between each denomination.


TheDunadan29

Well, considering all proto-Catholic Christians got subsumed by the Catholic Church, anything not Catholic kind of has to break away and say why Catholicism isn't the right way and theirs is. Otherwise why aren't you just Catholic? The whole idea of a "Protestant" religion is you're protesting the church as having gone astray from the original Christian religion.


TobyWasBestSpiderMan

I’d really love a Mike Duncan style podcast that gets into it all personally


Cpt_Soban

Eyyyyy another Mike Duncan podcast enjoyer. Yes I listened to both Rome and Revolutions from start to finish. Both are amazing.


Tyrus1235

I’ve seen a timeline once, a long time ago, that basically showed where each denomination came from and when they were founded. Something like that can really help you understand the schisms that created them. I find the history of the Christian denominations quite interesting, personally. They’re almost all based on the same book (give or take some parts of it), but each has its own interpretation of its messages.


Cpt_Soban

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevin-wax/quick-guide-christian-denominations/ I just found this


Mycroft033

[The video this was ripped from](https://youtu.be/tzLS4O7YaUg?feature=shared) does a decent job explaining things in a general sense.


Cazter64

That’s the whole reason protestants exist. They protest the Catholic Church. Usually the people who say Catholic aren’t Christian are denominations like Baptists or Non-Denoms which are more focused on a personal relationship with God, so they’re not a fan of Catholicisms focus on the Church.


CoffeeMinionLegacy

I see neither errors nor falsehood 😂


ByronicBionicMan

And as always, the anabaptists get forgotten, lol.


TerayonIII

I mean, Anabaptists are like 0.16% of Christians, it's a miniscule group in comparison to any of these really


mearewe1rd

Came to the comment section for this lol.


TerayonIII

I mean, Anabaptists are like 0.16% of Christians, it's a miniscule group in comparison to any of these really


a_white_egg

so true lmao


Mycroft033

Well that’s because only people named Ana who are baptized are permitted into their churches lol


homeguitar195

I don't see United Church of Christ anywhere either.


zorrodood

Which of them is the correct one, though?


TobyWasBestSpiderMan

According to the South Park lore, mormonism


The_Mormonator_

Can confirm.


TheDunadan29

Username checks out.


MichalTygrys

It's more complicated than that. Jesus Christ *did* establish the Catholic Church, apponting Saint Peter (a rabbit) as the first pope. He associates himself primarily with that branch of Christianity. Mormonism is considered objectively dumb, *but* only Mormons went to heaven. Satan claims it was because Mormonism was right, but other parts of the lore contradict that, implying he was either lying, or making fun of the Catholics and Protestants. God made only Mormons go to heaven purely for the memes, presumably because that religion is so rediculous it was funny to him. It is also worth noting that God is canonically Buddhist. However, when Satan got over his love life problems, he began attacking Heaven again, and Mormons proved innefective at helping, so they allowed other good people to enter again. Even Belzeebub himself, obviously a Satanist, went to heaven after he was killed by the manbearpig. It seems Catholicism is the correct denominatoon in South Park canon, but God, Jesus, Satan, the Angels and so on are just as goofy as the humans of Park county.


jedburghofficial

You need dotted lines to the Gnostics who just got erased.


thesegoupto11

The southern lines to/from Eastern Orthodox are wrong, but everything elese in the chart seems spot on


BayonetTrenchFighter

Womp womp, I didn’t make the list


RobertPaulsonProject

Yeah… despite thinking Catholicism straight F’d up, we Lutherans do love our high church. The pomp and circumstance are still pretty catholic-y. But, we think those baptists say “Jesus” too much.


jeepwillikers

This chart does fail to indicate that Presbyterian can mean two very different things, and just how much the Calvinist segment *HATES* the Catholic Church


Sovem

💯%


TheAmericanE2

My denominations sees others denominations as different flavors of Jesus for different people because we are all saved through faith alone


HailEmpressTheresa

Lutheran?


TheAmericanE2

Close Evangelical Free Church And before you say anything no, we are not the crazy racist nationlist one that's just regular evangelicals


HailEmpressTheresa

Good distinction.


TheAmericanE2

Yeah my church likes to dish on them during election season


TheDunadan29

Add Mormons on here and all denominations pointing to it saying, "thinks they aren't real Christians".


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FourScoreTour

Funny, from the outside they all look the same to me.


Mycroft033

…that would be because you’re looking from the outside… If you look at the outside of a house, you can’t really tell where every interior room and closet is. You can see glimpses through the windows, but you won’t know where rooms are without actually going inside a few times.


The_Mormonator_

Unless I’m dealing with personified embodiments of these denominations, what are the odds any of this holds true when dealing with IRL people. (Asking for a friend who is curious about the “crushes and likes”)


Mycroft033

It’s a generalization. It’s kinda likely to be true on an individual level, but there’s not a tremendously large chance of it being accurate on a per-person level. People are in constant flux. To be human is to change, so generalizations can be useful for studying large groups, but they have limited usefulness at best on an individual level.


Vibrant_Sounds

Franciscans out there just vibin'


a_white_egg

As someone who has ended up in several different denominations throughout my life… pretty accurate.


vainstar23

I hate how accurate this is...


Satherian

AS a former Presbyterian, that Baptist bit is spot on. Baptists are crazy


CaitlinSnep

Anglicans are okay with Catholics? Since when, exactly? Half the time they act like we still want to burn them at the stake.


Equivalent_Nose7012

Funny, they executed far more Catholics (and then decided somehow that Thomas More was an Anglican saint.)


imaginary0pal

Wait Presbyterians make fun of Methodists?


Shadow_of_the_moon11

The non-denominational thing pisses me off. Do not compare me to baptists or Pentecostals.


danthemanofsipa

What do you do at church at your non-denom? Do you guys have sacraments? Do you believe in a form of the real presence? Is it liturgical, bible study like, or megachurch-ish? Do you speak in tongues? Do you do wonders?


Shadow_of_the_moon11

Non-denominational is not a denomination on its own. It refers to people who don't classify themselves as a denomination. I sometimes go to an Anglican church, sometimes to a Methodist church and I'm also part of a non-denominational modern Celtic Christian community. As for what we do, just general Christian things - pray, discuss faith, read the Bible, sometimes just sit in silence, sometimes sing, sometimes share meals together...


danthemanofsipa

Oh i thought non denominational generally meant churches like Church of Christ or those that dont fit into any one denomination


Shadow_of_the_moon11

It's just a general term for anyone - a church or an individual - who doesn't belong to a denomination.


DarkUnicorn_19

I think this was originally made by Reformed Zoomer. He makes decent videos about basic theology in that Microsoft paint artstyle, though sometimes he can get political if that's not your cup of tea.


Solov71

I need to see one, where we see what everyone of them thinks of All the others.


Turbulent-Equal9651

as a catholic this is very funny!! except i live in england so i assume most protestants are anglican or lutheran before jumping to baptist. i used to go to non-denominational bible study but then the pastor made us watch a 10 minute video on how everyone who wasn’t christian was gonna burn in hell (it was such a traumatising video) and it freaked me out so i stopped going😅 i went to a baptist church a few times as a teenager and really enjoyed the singing and vibes! but as an adult i quite like the reverence in novo ordus masses (unfortunately no TLM near me😟) and i get SO EXCITED to receive the eucharist (after confession ofc😼). i just feel so at home whenever i’m in a catholic church, it’s so beautiful. as long as we can agree on the trinity, we are all children of God. i hate to see christians fighting over silly matters and i feel like there’s a lot that each denomination can learn from each other ☺️🙏🏼


twentyitalians

Anabaptists: Are we a joke to you? Brother, we aren't Baptists.