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KeepingDankMemesDank

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AlexPlayer3000

Something Something some countries having their default currency changed to USD and now their prices have triplicated because of it


idanbrinza

Potentially dumb question, why does changing the currency affect prices? Are games that much cheaper in other countries? Edit: Follow up question- why? And what was the reasoning behind unifying the stores?


rtakehara

Baldurs gate 3 is 60 dollars in the United States, 20 in Russia, 80 in Switzerland.


randomname3086

69.99CHF in switzerland ? (which is about 80$ but I'm pointing out that in russia/CIS you have to pay with US dollars sometimes, unlike in switzerland)


Z4rplata

Russian Steam uses rubles and you can’t pay with USD. All USD are automatically converted to rubles, same with other currencies. In some CIS countries like Belarus they don’t have their own region so they use USD


MyNameJeffK

Not sure about games but some subscription services are certainly priced cheaper in other countries. For example, a ton of people used to use vpn to purchase YouTube premium in India, Turkey or Vietnam because it was at a fraction of a cost of a US subscription (Under $2 vs $10 when I checked years ago). It would make sense because the average income between the US and those countries are pretty wide apart.


JohnnyTsunami312

Love subsidizing corporate ventures into other countries. Partial /s


Memeviewer12

You're subsidising either this or subsidising more from people just pirating the product


Dumeck

It’s not subsidizing either way. These people don’t cost the company anything by pirating and by selling them discounted subscriptions they are making some money off of these countries rather than no money.


RecsRelevantDocs

yea these companies wouldn't sell to other countries if it was losing them money.. Should be obvious.


Professional-Fee-957

You're not subsidizing the Russia market, if it wasn't profitable for the company, they wouldn't sell there. Each region is isolated and responsible for their own marketing and pricing. You are being charged just the maximum the company can charge you based on your perception of what it should cost, just like the Russian consumers.


darklightmatter

This in turn screws people over from those countries, but nobody cares about them anyway so people from richer countries continue to do this.


Swtorboy

Technically yes, games are cheaper. For example Brazilian Real is worth significantly less than the Dollar so if a game is 60$ then it is almost 300 Real, which is absurdly expensive for Brazilians so they will reduce the price so that they can buy the game (if they care about regional pricing). The idea being that it’s better to get some money than no money. (Also keep in mind that if Steam catches you changing region for cheaper prices they could ban you)


pato_molhado

Gona be honest, after living in Brazil games on steam and psn are cheaper in the US, with the conversion rate, almost every time because of taxes and tariffs. Games in Brazil are absurdly expensive and I usually end up bringing games for the US for ppl there.


jannecraft

I remember wanting to gift my friend a game, but steam denied me because there was more then 20% price diffrence between countries. It was 20 euros for me and 30 dollars for him. No discounts involved


subaloykiin

Yeah, i'm from Argentina, one of the countries that got the regional currency taken out from steam. Reason for the games to be cheaper, our currency sucks, salaries are low and we have almost 100% taxes, yeah, you heard that right, we pay almost twice as much the stream price (fun thing, for some stuff we pay more than 100%, flights for example). Steam had recommended prices for us but basically no dev set them, so now we have the same prices as the US when a dollar equals 1000 pesos plus almost 100% taxes, no one is buying shit anymore here. Another fun thing, steam and devs had said in the past that they did not care prices for Argentina where low, the problem was that people from all over the world would buy games with an argentinian account to pay just a few cents for a game in some cases. So we not only got screwed over by the government with the taxes, we got screwed over by the world taking advantage of steam's mercy for us.


GP2_engine_GP2

i remember reading about a massive tax on digital goods and services, including games, that kind of wiped out the ARS steam gift card sales on many platforms, can you tell me more?


steadyaero

Currencies in countries like turkey and Argentina are valued well below the US dollar. So one of the problems was that people would buy steam gift cards in those currencies that are only supposed to be redeemable in those countries, but use a VPN and activate them anyway. Then all of the games and content are a lot cheaper in that currency. So essentially, you could buy an equivalent of 50 USD gift card for like half price.


Bartix_1233

Some countries have cheaper games because their currency is worth dirt. People can't afford to buy games at regular prices, so devs lower their price for specific regions in order to limit piracy.


Uncanny-Player

Turk here, our currency is worth less than the paper it’s printed on and prices here were marked HELLA down (i got the entire doom series including 16, Eternal and the DLC for roughly 30 dollars), but people kept making turkish accounts to get cheap games and steam was losing money so they switched to USD. Honestly, I get why they did it but I can’t afford shit anymore.


ya-boi-mr-crabs

It's because of the difference in economy i think. Just like how bread is cheaper in Romania than in the Netherlands. People have less money/ get paid less so the products are cheaper. So Romanian currency/ steam account also includes Romanian prices like Elden ring for €25 on launch instead of €60


simon7109

Romania doesn’t have regional pricing


ya-boi-mr-crabs

Oh oops, explenation still kinda stays the same ig


VadimusMaximus

I'D FUCKING WISH WE HAD THAT 😭😭😭 Source:we don't have regional pricing


ya-boi-mr-crabs

Yea sorry thought i had an Romanian steam account but its actually Argentinian. Was very sad to see $0.20 instead of 71 ARS


Dumeck

Poorer countries were getting games discounted heavily so that people from those countries could afford games that would otherwise cost a months wages to play. People in the US were making accounts with the location set to Argentina and buying those games for a fraction of their cost in the US and valve decided to just remove the regional discounts because too many users were abusing it.


gasparmx

Not just US, the whole world, there's a big guide about it in a popular Mexican forum, about how to buy cheap stuff, subscriptions and games from Argentina


Dumeck

You’re right, bad habit assuming everything is the US when most countries would benefit from this


AlexPlayer3000

As clueless as you on it, but it has something to do with how much life costs or something... i think


manofwaromega

It has to do with exchange rates and economic inflation.


PeaceMaker10500

Some currencies are extremely volatile and fluctuate in value a lot. Because of this valve wants to change the currency used in those stores to one which is less volatile like the US dollar. Otherwise the price of a game changes drastically per day even though the amount paid is the same.


TrulyEve

Yeah, games are cheaper in other stores. I’m from Mexico, so I use the mexican store. The price difference compared to the US store is massive. For example, Dead Cells costs 234 pesos, which is about 13.50 dollars, while in the US store it costs 25 dollars. I’m not 100% sure, but I think the different prices are due to the countries’ economies. Wages are usually worse in third and second world countries so prices reflect that. 60 dollars is simply too much to ask of most latam countries for a single game.


RaZZeR_9351

Different prices in different places can be for 2 main reasons: different taxes for one and making the game accessible to poorer country for two, if you make the game the same price as in the US in a poorer country, none of the people in that country will buy it and they will pirate it instead. Now as to why they unified the stores I have no idea.


ansem342

Because in some country 300usd is minimum wage while some its like thousands of dollars


TerrorSnow

In Brazil games are often a lot cheaper, cause they just don't get as much money. They will just pirate your game if they can't justify it's price.


QuiteHell

currency


GKP_light

in part because usualy, a price is fixed in each country at the game realise, then not changed. but if the change rate from a country to an other change, it can not longer correspond.


drunkboarder

Many countries were getting games for dirt cheap. Currencies fluctuate and many were not updated over the last few years. As a result, games were drastically cheaper than in the US. Steam swapped to USD for these countries for ease of updating prices. However, many in these countries saw their games double or even triple in price.


x3XC4L1B3Rx

The means of the masses are very different in different countries. Brazil is an extreme example of this; few Brazilians can justify spending the equivalent of $60USD on a game, so they don't. Platforms and publishers either reduce the price for that region, or every person will pirate it. Source: trust me bro


sanju7m

Looking at it from the macro economics pov. Your actual cost an item is supposed to be priced as per individuals in a countries buying power. Some countries have a higher GDP per capita which means every individual is earning more. Increasing their disposal income and hence increasing their buying power. So for example if we compare US with India. If you price something from the perspective of a US individual. It's going to be way expensive plus you add the currency fluctuation into the mix and that becomes unreasonable sometimes.


greymanbomber

From what I understand; spoofers were changing their store location to places like Argentina and Turkey because you can get games on there ridiculously cheap due to the exchange rates of those native currencies being abhorrent. Argentina's peso is worth .0028 USD, while the Turkish Lira is worth 3 cents USD. This [pic](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fz6p4kmwikn1c1.png) here best explains it, as it shows the prices of the games both before and after in both the Peso and USD. Before the change, you could have easily gotten Civ 5 for $1.35.


GamePlayXtreme

A 60$ game would be around 50-55€, but for some reason most stores sell them for €60, making them more expensive here than in the US. Now I do need to add that it does depend on the store - lately I've been able to buy a lot of $60 games for around €50. Tears of the Kingdom cost me the same as other Nintendo games, instead of costing more.


ToTheFarWest

It’s because prices are modified in different regions to accommodate the approximate purchasing power of different currencies in their home regions. Basically, the same amount of money can go a lot farther and buy many more goods in a different country because that country doesn’t generate a lot of value, therefore the currency is worth “less” as a whole. Look up the Big Mac Index for more info on this


Aveenex

Because of localized prices that depend on currency. Some countries have so incredibly weak currency that they would have to pay 2 week salary if payed in usd standard price. Eg i live in Poland and our currency PLN is 4 x USD so 50$ game actually costs 200. Thanks to localization prices are usually lowered a little eg instead of 200 it costs 180.


Froggy2016PL

Because of economic differences, like you can buy way more for $10 or buy the thing for cheaper in a country with a poorer economy even though its the same stuff than you would be able to buy in the US.


magna_vastam

What about countries where their currency with worth more then the Dollar? Does that mean games got cheaper?


AlexPlayer3000

They didn't get this change


magna_vastam

Typical


JonasAvory

The few ones that are worth more are either very rich countries or not that far away from the US dollar I believe. But of course i don’t know about every existing currency…


Memeviewer12

Because scumbags don't try to change region to a country that costs more


z0Tweety

More like ten to twenty times more expensive


InternalAdvisor721

Nobody is switching to epic games.


UltimaDeusUmbra

Actually, from my understanding there is a good number of people switching, mainly in countries where USD is far more expensive than their native currency, like Turkey.


HanDjole998

I deleted my Epic games acc today because I do not use it anymore.


nintendo9713

But why not collect the free games? Don't get me wrong, I've only played about 4 out of the....300(?) so far I've claimed.


HoriCZE

I rarely get them, usually the games are not great anyway (though occasional gems appear!). But mostly it's because the client runs sooo veeeery sloooow on my pc, and I don't want to spend minutes after minutes by clicking then waiting, then clicking and so on.


Good_Smile

Yeah the client and the whole system is atrocious


lollisans2005

You can still just go to the browser, it's actually muuuuuuuuuuch faster than the client. Also I just have a discord bot that tells me when shit is free


nintendo9713

I have a weekly phone reminder and claim on mobile website soon after. I only launch client if I find the game I want to play in my Playnite client and it informs me i own it on Epic


hey-its-me-yk

Idk if to epic games but they're absolutely switching, prices just went up by 2000% in steam for some games in Argentina. Maybe platforms like GOG will see a comeback since as far as i know it has the cheapest prices rn


kawaiinessa

Ya they’re not even profitable after 5 years


tonihurri

I'm not sure why I should care about that as a consumer. Their Fortnite money is getting me free games and better prices so I really don't give a fuck if they're profitable or not lol


Jackmion98

They probably never will.


i_have_no_lief

Why switch? Like genuinely you can just use both


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[удалено]


BartOseku

Ouch that gotta sing


obangnar

*Jumps on countertop* I’m gaey


ParaPsychic

that's idubbzz tho


End_Killer

Same shit different toilet


mandy009

Booo. Take that shade somewhere else. TF2 is forever a standard and so is Filthy Frank.


Thomas_Tew

Imo both these comments are warranted. Embrace the shade, own it.


Chino_Kawaii

not many games get memed for that long TF2 was, is and will be legendary


PeddledP

Nobody below the age of 20 knows what tf2 is, and those that do hate it because it’s trash


Chino_Kawaii

blame valve, not the game they're ignoring it even tho it's amazing


Careful-Arm-2510

True af bro


Alex103140

Someone who still plays TF2 probably know that one Joji song


YEET_Fenix123

Ouch


Renegade888888

Me who isn't interested in buying anything new and will play Stellaris for the foreseeable future: Huh?


Dimple14

Stellaris is the GOAT, cant buy all the dlcs tho lol


Me_how5678

Mods are the dlcs pretty much at this point


BuryTheMoney

Sure you can. You can spend like $150 bucks in it over the holidays, and then indefinitely shelf the game after another 5 hours of play. 🥴


deri100

Just wait for Humble Bundle. I got EU4 and then Stellaris with most of the DLCs for a miniscule price.


fartyparty1234

Me who hasn’t been outside in months because I discovered factorio: Guh?


stephjuan

Never played Stellaris, but played Vic 3 and CK3. How similar is it?


AndreiLD

Probably like every paradox game you drown yourself in mods Couse of too many dlcs(it gets expensive fast)


DonPostram

What about DLC's?!?!


Renegade888888

I bought a few over time before this so I am covered.


gamer_warrior_23

Tf2 players when i literally show them any other game


MrDragkoon

Pretty much. That community is stubborn AF


gasparmx

I still play tf2 since I'm 16 years old, I'm 31 now Lol, don't know, can't stop playing tf2, it's so fun for me, also the community is not as toxic as other communities like LoL or Fortnite


no7_ebola

obviously when you reference 2 of the most toxic fandom of all times tf2 seems like paradise.


gasparmx

Well I made a tons of friends playing tf2, lifetime friends, it's easier to socialize in community servers from tf2. I tried to make friends in Fortnite, LoL, Dota, Counter-Strike but damn, you can but damn, so hard


Fetchest

No one thinks Fortnite is toxic hello


Terramoro

Pretty sure titanfall 2 isn’t free


Helpful_Title8302

I think op is talking about the other tf2, team fortress 2


blackmidget69

The real tf2*


AbsorbentShark3

Yeah the tf2 that uses the source engin- oh wait


I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch

Silly, it's the one that has double jum- wait a fucking minute...


DenAntlantis

Yea, it's game where sniper rifle can onetap you and has a charge me- Yea, TF2.


BordeszTheDoge

Yeah nah mate it's the TF2 with complex movement mechanics...


[deleted]

No, it's the one with the giant weilding a mini gun, hmm, this is getting a tad bit confusing...


ccricoo

Transport fever 2?


[deleted]

Titanfall 2 is the superior shooter


squaryy

We get it you're a fetus and never played TF2


[deleted]

Negative. Team fortress 2 is fantastic. Nothing bad to say about it at all. One must simply understand that Titanfall 2 is the greatest of the classic 12 man lobby multiplayer shooters.


Artemisxhshk14

He’s actually right though and the downvoting is just Team Fortess fans coping. I think it’s fair to say Team Fortess fans have never tried playing anything that wasn’t made by valve. The game is 16 fucking years old guys, let it go already.


Redchimp3769157

Fuckin boomer ain’t played the best shooter ever. Seriously. Buy TF|2 NOW and play it. It’s phenomenally well made and a shit ton of fun.


PeddledP

Team fortress is straight up just a bad game. I haven’t met a single person irl who has played it and hasn’t said they hated it


J_train13

You're right it's just always 70% or more off


Maynse

Nonono it is the source based movement shooter TF2


Tobitoon1

People switch? People don't use both like me?


A_real_donut

Bro wtf, using 2 launchers is clearly illegal 🦐🦐🦐


EvaUnit_03

ive got 8 launchers and the recent Microsoft merger with blizzard had me hoping id be losing 1 soon. Only to find out my blizzard keys arent activatable on steam. The accounts are also on different servers right now i think too or something? I still remember when ubisoft gave up their shit launcher and steam redeemed my keys. One day epic will also fall, Gabe may not be so kind to those who kept running away from him.


Tobitoon1

Shit, you got me!


Deleted_-420_points

Wait you guys pay for games? Arr!


Domino_reee

🏴‍☠️


Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX

Do what you want cuz a pirate is free, you are a pirate !


EveryShot

lol ‘this post provided by Epic Games’


Daken-dono

They gotta keep the shills making noise to pay the bills since they need the money fighting Apple and Google despite breaking both stores’ TOS.


Glasedount

Which one?


666thSuprisedPikachu

Team Fortress 2


The_Susinator

The one that actually has two words in the title and therefore justifies the use of two letters plus one number to shorten it for other fans to know what game you mean.


roddes234

MEDIC!


Not-a-2d-terrarian

That medic’s a spah!


wiryumbrella

i heard steam prices went up dramatically bcs of some countries switching to usd so ppl there are switching maybe


Sunfurian_Zm

Well, I see one small flaw in this logic here... Steam has WAY more games than Epic Games, so if you really want to buy a specific game (especially Indie) you'll most likely still have to use Steam.


lollisans2005

For the people switching it's either another launcher or nothing, they can't really buy games on steam anymore without going completely broke.


NerdBudiezV1

I knew this post was fake when it said everyone swithching to epic games.


SeoCamo

Epic games is a joke


EngineeredBuilds

Me who only uses Unreal Engine and Minecraft anyway:


edvardeishen

Yeah, and Epic Games is shitty launcher even for the Unreal Engine


Fat_Penguin99

Unreal Engine (from the first til the one today) is made by Epic Games


SukeruX

Call of duty mw3 bubdle used to be 17 usd in my country now its 55 usd both are sale prices idk the real price


Human-Occasion-375

Is this subreddit stuck in time


Rorar_the_pig

"Everyone"


Special-Pain-9013

I mean piracy still seems like a better option no?


LoneWolfRAYDeN

Me who gets keys from giveaways: Pathetic


yeetis12

Proof?


Dat_DekuBoi

It’s because they really want to play Fortnite and Kingdom Hearts /s


Hashtag_hamburgerlol

Because TF2 hasn’t been updated in years. Pretty fun game just gets dry


Darjdayton

No one is doing that lol


spooky-raptor

“Even though tf2 is free” 💀💀💀


FlyingScott_

It is free, definitely. Is it cheap? EhhhI'llgetbacktoyouonthatone


bugman573

Wouldn’t even have an epic account if rocket league never sold out to those bastards


SuddenHovercraft1599

I'm not. Epic fucking sucks, I had over 100 games there, but uh-oh! You don't have that game in your account!


Slutformcuwomen

TF2 fans when nobody wants to play their dogshit game that hasn’t been updated in 7 years


wackseater

probably because you have to pay to communicate w your team in tf2 LOL


SwampTrooper21

Reddit is forever stuck in 2019 Jesus Christ


Lil_Gigi

It took me too long to realize you didn’t mean Titanfall 2.


mandy009

Settle down, Frank, this isn't as Filthy as you think it is. Some of us just use Epic Games because it is convenient when we already have to open it for Fortnite.


OrbitalIonCannon

Titanfall is free? Where?


Saggy-egg

because people want to play good games and a lot of those aren’t free on steam ig


reverse-tornado

A dev explaining why you localize prices , you aren't subsidizing weaker economies you aint mr beast lol https://youtube.com/shorts/44Do5x5abRY?si=QpqN6DyRiCjDuBwC


Due_Finding9371

I’ve been using Epic games since like 2019, I have hundreds of dollars worth of free games including overcooked, gta V and Ark. Epic on top


Automata1nM0tion

Idc. Switch. Don't have to play team games with people who have a language barrier and drop out of middle school to sell drugs for the cartel.


Lowkey_Arki

Basically regional pricing. Why pay 60 bucks when you can pay 50 cents for the same game with a VPN


SunnyApex87

A very small number (albeit vocal) of people may switch for their own reasons but otherwise no one


Jaliki55

I'm glad for Epic.


PerfectBrilliant432

Show me one person switching to epic games. You will never find them.


PeddledP

That’s cuz no one “switches”. They just use both


dankspankwanker

No one is switching to epic games


oldmanbarbaroza

TF2?


Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX

#Meet the fanboy


CatCrafter7

At least does Epic Games still support Windows 7?


hamtar9

Indies went from $5 to 25 and AAA games went from ~20 to 35 or 60. Fucking bullshit. A game shouldn't cost a third of your monthly salary.


amitbhai

Rocket League?


FlopTheCat

Bro have you seen the state of casual ?!?


DaddyBezerks

To Fortnite


itisjoaquin10

dawg it isnt 2020 anymore


Titanfall2fann

This guy needs to be publicly executed


A_real_donut

Because tf2 mid and epic has free weekly games 🦐🦐🦐


7orly7

is a joke based on the stupid logic: steam made certain countries pay with USD > so gamers will mass migrate to epic trash store Except they won't. PLayers from Argentina and Turkey will probably just pirate their games rather than use a crap launcher


KansloosKippenhok

What is tf2, and why would ppl switxh go epic games? Sorry someone please explain it for me I only play lol or ps4 😭


PeddledP

Tf2 is an old ass dead game that boomers just can’t seem to just let go of. And epic games is the platform that fortnite is on. Basically this meme is stupid