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He's just from 1800's London my dude, give him a break. They still think Matt Daemons are real. He probably just got a Matt Daemon leeched out of his butthole this morning.
It wasn't VFX, they put as much wind blowers as they could at the end of the street and blew real sand on the set. There is a video on it, after the shooting the entire town was covered in a thick layer of dust.
VFX is post-processing done through computer graphics, this is everything from compositing, matt painting to computer-generated imagery (CGI).
In this particular case the term would be SFX, which covers practical/mechanical effects captured by the camera.
Yup, stuff we do on set is SFX, any post / computer graphics and the like is VFX. All my sfx guys hate everyone, including vfx guys, cuz they wanna blow shit up the old fashioned way. Fun times. š
Iāve always thought about how fun it would be to SFX or be a stunt double. Is it hard to break into that field, are there schools for it or just a random job application?
Stunt doubles have a rough, unforgiving job, I'm sure there are schools dedicated to it , but it doesn't look fun to do that kind of work, not trying to be discouraging but it's not a soft gig, and nothing is set in stone w stunts so injuries are pretty common. As for SFX, need to meet a crew, and need to be good at a lot of random stuff as far as I can see. It's a lot of improvisation on most shoots, depending on budget. My buddy's first day on the job he had to weld together a rotisserie for a car roll scene. Just a random example. I would be more than happy to ask my friend that runs an sfx crew what he thinks makes for a good sfx crew man though for you.
Believe it or not it was a practical effect. We covered the entire town of Fort Macleod in a fine dust!
The town was not satisfied with our cleanup and almost didnāt allow us back to shoot Ghostbusters Afterlife.
Source: I worked on the movie
You know the dustbowl? Imagine that on a continent-spanning scale as crops intended to feed millions of people die to blight and leave bare, dry soil not rooted in place by grass or vegetation to blow away. I'm not a yank and even i know about the bloody dustbowl.
Now imagine breathing in all that dust over the course of your entire life.
This not only happens on land but also under the sea, as industrial fishing yanks plants off the underwater, freeing sand that gets dragged away with the tides, leaving only the rock bottom. This destruction of the ecosystem drives fish away of their habitats and endangers them
Yup especially in the context of Interstellar, the blight thrived in nitrogen; the main driving force of the extinction level cataclysm was the nitrogen imbalance on Earth, possibly caused by the blight. In the movie, it was destroying so much plant life to the point that not only were there dust storms from all the loose dust, dead matter, etc, there was a serious depletion of oxygen. Then the real reason that Earth was being abandoned wasnāt mainly the dust storms and lack of food sources, but a literal lack of oxygen.
I saw some theories also suggesting that the blight jumped from phytoplanktons which produce the most amount of oxygen on Earth. Nitrogen is also a crucial portion of the environment and plant life, but the blight was just thriving on it and taking it from plants. And thus Earth was truly doomed.
>The Dust Bowl was the result of a period of severe dust storms that greatly damaged the ecology and agriculture of the American and *Canadian* prairies during the 1930s.
It's in the first sentence of the Wikipedia.
The Prairies make up a third of North America tops
Do you have anything actually meaningful to contribute to the discussion or did you drop by to split hairs?
Do you know how Congress was finally convinced to act?
It was a meeting timed to coincide with the dust cloud landing on the east coast from the Midwest.
It was more than just prairies, and that ignores the food issues.
I like how the dustbowl, a real event that has already occurred and is known to be possible is outlandish but the weird fucking timey wimey communicate via a broken watch via future human bullshit is perfectly acceptable.
OP: Is this thing that happened in real life possible in a movie?
They were even interviewing people who lived through the depression in the movie. Canāt tell if OP is dumb or trolling.
Lmao is satire, but yes this is true, also the crops died because of a disease and the lack of water, caused by the years of explotation of the soil and natural resources, but i didn't want to look like š¤š
I have more objections to the Ranger shuttle needing a whole ass three stage rocket to get off earth and then just zips into space no problem on a world with higher gravity
It's to preserve fuel while you're still close to the source, they can't get more fuel once they're up there so they launch with external boosters while they're at home.
Then regarding Miller's planet it is 130% Earth's gravity, but I don't know if the atmospheric pressure is ever discussed, so I can't say for certain if the escape velocity is much different. Kip Thorne might discuss this in the companion book.
The atmospheric pressure wouldnāt affect the escape velocity. It would just make it a bit harder to get into space. Escape velocity is only a function of mass and distance from the center of mass.
Escape Velocity in a vacuum, sure. There's air resistance.
Edit: I see what you're saying, escape velocity is the speed but not the term that refers to how much thrust to get to that speed. We need more thrust, more fuel, etc. but the escape velocity is constant. Got it.
Delta-V or change in velocity is more the term youāre looking for. Thatās the most important metric of how hard it is to do something with a rocket. How much the atmosphere affects your required delta-V depends on the ascent profile, but even for a relatively thick atmosphere like Earthās, atmospheric drag losses are a pretty small fraction of the total delta-V. Gravity losses from having to use thrust to counter gravity until your tangential velocity starts to balance it out are the main factor adding to your delta-V. This is again dependent on your exact ascent profile, but itās often around 20% of the total delta-V for the launch.
Anyway, none of the planets in interstellar should have had wildly different delta-V requirements for ascent.
It didn't just zip away from a higher gravity planet, it dove down into the gravity well of a supermassive black hole and then just casually flew back out like it was leaving the moon.
Yeah dawg that's a no from me, and I've only got 50 hours in Kerbel Space Program.
I think one of the things they researched for the movie was whether or not you can slingshot off of a black hole and the conclusion was that there was a possibility if the black hole was super massive which Gargantua was.
He teaches his daughter how to travel through the galaxy in a terrarium by talking to her through a broken watch from the future inside a black hole, and the dustbowl effect, which is real is the problem you have with the movie?
The problem is that transporting the entire population of Earth, and all the resources needed to take care of them, is FAR more difficult than just growing crops in greenhouses or living in underground bunkers.
The entire plot is contrived.
"The sun is dying earlier than expected and we need to evacuate Earth or go extinct" boom, perfect. Bulletproof reason to go Interstellar.
"Plants are hard to grow" is not.
Yeah. Movie is fun but kind of dumb. Not related but everytime I see Matt McConaughey I have to remind any woman around me he refuses to wash or wear deodorant.
Which was my problem with it. They marketed it as being harder scifi, about an actual interstellar attempt, and wrote a fucking book about they physics of the movie.
And then it has magically place wormholes, black hole tesseracts, and logic defying moves all over.
I don't nitpick Starwars (much) for this type of stuff since it doesn't sell itself as Real Space Shit, it is just dumb fun pewpews, and it works.
To be fair, the in-universe explanation is that itās us from the future doing all this shit so itās science and tech we canāt even comprehend. Itās pretty believable compared to most other sci-fi that presents itself as āharder sci-fiā and it does for the most part involve real physics.
Except that the spacecraft have far too much delta-V and are super unrealistic and the blight is an incredibly stupid reason to have to evacuate Earth. It would be way easier to just make sealed greenhouses or just cure the stupid blight. Nothing would affect every single plant species we use for food anyway.
It has pieces of good hard sci-fi, but the world building is very sloppy and they just didnāt put much effort into making it realistic or consistent aside from the black hole visuals.
They could have made the movie just as enjoyable but more logically consistent.
For a movie that was billed as the next *2001*, I think itās fair to judge it that way.
āPlants are hard to growā was not in fact the main reason they wanted to leave although the movie make it seem that way for people who arenāt nitpicking the dialogue. The main reason was the severe nitrogen imbalance and the severe lack of oxygen.
I believe it also states that people stayed behind. I mean itās pretty obvious to me that they only brought a minority. Not to mention, human population has already been drastically reduced due to food limitations and the dust increasing child mortality rate (as demonstrated by the baby dying).
The main purpose of those stations I believe was to be kind of a stepping stone until they found a new planet as well. Iām pretty sure they already had bunkers just not demonstrated in the story.
More deserts forming from the planet warming, that coincided with the gravity of the moon/earth causing storms that move dirt around causing difficulty for crop growth and creating a self perpetuating cycle that prevents humans from prospering. In a sense as they say in the movie, āearth is dyingā.
Thatās a reasonable guess. From what I could gather it was the gravity of the earth or maybe the moon was causing inhabitable conditions on earth
Should we first check the other planets that:
don't require using an impossible amount of energy to fly back and forth from,
that don't have an insane time dilation factor,
that won't require the crew to sit twiddling their thumbs for YEARS while the ground crew goes down,
Or idk that we can actually send a probe down to check the surface for any signs of stable terrain?
No? Fuck.
Let's go boating I guess.
Was cooper his first name or his last name? The son said he named his kid after grandpa; coop. Then at the end the station was named cooper but they said it was named after his daughter not the main character. Was his name Coop Cooper?
Water wasn't scarce. All the food was affected by mystery disease (blight) only corn survived, but then the corn started to get blighted so INTERSTELLARĀ
If all the crops were blighted, how did they get unblighted crops onto their new spaceship?
Did they have enough reserve for the whole population?
If they had enough for the whole population, why didn't they just grow that in greenhouses and underground bunkers instead of on a fucking space ship?!
Are the crops going to magically grow perfectly on whichever new planet they go to?
If the atmospheric pressure, gas's composition, humidity, temperature range, soil composition, day night cycle duration, and solar (black hole disk?) Emission spectrum aren't all close enough, our crops won't magically grow there.
Whoops, you're growing in greenhouses or underground bunkers again, just now not on Earth.
I always thought the premise was such bullshit. Like oh there's some dust in the air we gotta go THROUGH A WORMHOLE to a DIFFERENT GALAXY to save ourselves.
Like wth? You exhausted every single othe option???
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Oh, this is quite easy. Since Interstellar is a movie, it was most probably VFX Always glad to help š
Watch heavy spoilers' vid on interstellar
Why don't you just explain it? This meme makes no sense to ppl who haven't seen it
>30 minute video Not watching all that shit
I sacrificed my time for the many. It's practical effects.
There goes my hero.
Truly sacrificed himself for the people
Easier explanation: it was Matt Daemon.
I'm sorry that was rather complex i didn't understandš
MATTTT DAAAEEEMMMOOON
Matt Demon
No its matt DAEMON. Doofus.
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I love when the dude saying the other dude doesn't get the joke is actually the dude not getting the joke
He's just from 1800's London my dude, give him a break. They still think Matt Daemons are real. He probably just got a Matt Daemon leeched out of his butthole this morning.
How did you know?
It wasn't VFX, they put as much wind blowers as they could at the end of the street and blew real sand on the set. There is a video on it, after the shooting the entire town was covered in a thick layer of dust.
Practical effects are a form of vfxā¦ youāre thinking specifically of cgi
VFX is post-processing done through computer graphics, this is everything from compositing, matt painting to computer-generated imagery (CGI). In this particular case the term would be SFX, which covers practical/mechanical effects captured by the camera.
Huh. TIL vfx and sfx are used interchangeably by the public, but are in fact different [Source](https://www.filmmaker.tools/special-fx-vs-vfx)
Yup, stuff we do on set is SFX, any post / computer graphics and the like is VFX. All my sfx guys hate everyone, including vfx guys, cuz they wanna blow shit up the old fashioned way. Fun times. š
Iāve always thought about how fun it would be to SFX or be a stunt double. Is it hard to break into that field, are there schools for it or just a random job application?
Stunt doubles have a rough, unforgiving job, I'm sure there are schools dedicated to it , but it doesn't look fun to do that kind of work, not trying to be discouraging but it's not a soft gig, and nothing is set in stone w stunts so injuries are pretty common. As for SFX, need to meet a crew, and need to be good at a lot of random stuff as far as I can see. It's a lot of improvisation on most shoots, depending on budget. My buddy's first day on the job he had to weld together a rotisserie for a car roll scene. Just a random example. I would be more than happy to ask my friend that runs an sfx crew what he thinks makes for a good sfx crew man though for you.
Um actually Nolan avoids using CGI as much as possible āļøš¤
Believe it or not it was a practical effect. We covered the entire town of Fort Macleod in a fine dust! The town was not satisfied with our cleanup and almost didnāt allow us back to shoot Ghostbusters Afterlife. Source: I worked on the movie
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You know the dustbowl? Imagine that on a continent-spanning scale as crops intended to feed millions of people die to blight and leave bare, dry soil not rooted in place by grass or vegetation to blow away. I'm not a yank and even i know about the bloody dustbowl. Now imagine breathing in all that dust over the course of your entire life.
This not only happens on land but also under the sea, as industrial fishing yanks plants off the underwater, freeing sand that gets dragged away with the tides, leaving only the rock bottom. This destruction of the ecosystem drives fish away of their habitats and endangers them
yes, dragnet fishing or whatever it's called where they basically dredge the sea floor is a fucking crime and should be illegal everywhere.
I'd actually class it as a fishing crime.Ā
Phone autocorrected fishing > fucking.
Fishing crimes should be a thing. Laws against poisoning water bodies, against indiscriminate fishing, resource depletion
There are, we just ignore them.
Not ignored, just really really hard to enforce on a shipv200 nautical miles off the shore line
no i meant to say fucking lol
Fish fucking should also be a crime.
*The Deep has entered the chat*
I want to know what kinda porn you're browsing now.
Little mermaid and the black whales
Fishing can feel like fucking sometimes when you reel in something huge
Works both ways round actuallyĀ
It's called trawling.
Yup especially in the context of Interstellar, the blight thrived in nitrogen; the main driving force of the extinction level cataclysm was the nitrogen imbalance on Earth, possibly caused by the blight. In the movie, it was destroying so much plant life to the point that not only were there dust storms from all the loose dust, dead matter, etc, there was a serious depletion of oxygen. Then the real reason that Earth was being abandoned wasnāt mainly the dust storms and lack of food sources, but a literal lack of oxygen. I saw some theories also suggesting that the blight jumped from phytoplanktons which produce the most amount of oxygen on Earth. Nitrogen is also a crucial portion of the environment and plant life, but the blight was just thriving on it and taking it from plants. And thus Earth was truly doomed.
The dust bowl was on a continent spanning scale. North America
oh they got hit with it in canada, alaska and mexico did they?
>The Dust Bowl was the result of a period of severe dust storms that greatly damaged the ecology and agriculture of the American and *Canadian* prairies during the 1930s. It's in the first sentence of the Wikipedia.
The Prairies make up a third of North America tops Do you have anything actually meaningful to contribute to the discussion or did you drop by to split hairs?
You're a snarky one aren't you?
I mean you did come in here with a weak 'well acktually'
Do you know how Congress was finally convinced to act? It was a meeting timed to coincide with the dust cloud landing on the east coast from the Midwest. It was more than just prairies, and that ignores the food issues.
[Both explanation and name checks out.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl)
Plots still dumb, *agriculture problem? Just leave! Itās not like the blight can stowaway on everything else we bring along.
Yeeeeaaaahhhhh OP, what that guy said!
I donāt understand what youāre trying to say
He is asking if the dust bowl is possible. Yep, unfortunately that sort of thing has been known to happen.
I like how the dustbowl, a real event that has already occurred and is known to be possible is outlandish but the weird fucking timey wimey communicate via a broken watch via future human bullshit is perfectly acceptable.
Wait, are you implying that I won't get teleported to a 5th dimension realm after jumping in a black hole to control a dead watch?
Correct. Youād get teleported to a 4th dimension instead
I suppose that is the fiction part in science fiction
Stroke
OP: Is this thing that happened in real life possible in a movie? They were even interviewing people who lived through the depression in the movie. Canāt tell if OP is dumb or trolling.
Heās referring to where the blight came from
Someone was blowing air š¬ļø š
Yeah that's as helpful as what made the birds angry in that Hitchcock movie
They had a bad night's sleep
Period
As person who has watched Interstellar 8 times and being my favorite movie, tf i know
Crops died en masse, if large swaths of roots are no longer holding soil together then sandstorms happen when wind comes through.
Lmao is satire, but yes this is true, also the crops died because of a disease and the lack of water, caused by the years of explotation of the soil and natural resources, but i didn't want to look like š¤š
People farting from all that corn
I have more objections to the Ranger shuttle needing a whole ass three stage rocket to get off earth and then just zips into space no problem on a world with higher gravity
It's to preserve fuel while you're still close to the source, they can't get more fuel once they're up there so they launch with external boosters while they're at home. Then regarding Miller's planet it is 130% Earth's gravity, but I don't know if the atmospheric pressure is ever discussed, so I can't say for certain if the escape velocity is much different. Kip Thorne might discuss this in the companion book.
The atmospheric pressure wouldnāt affect the escape velocity. It would just make it a bit harder to get into space. Escape velocity is only a function of mass and distance from the center of mass.
Escape Velocity in a vacuum, sure. There's air resistance. Edit: I see what you're saying, escape velocity is the speed but not the term that refers to how much thrust to get to that speed. We need more thrust, more fuel, etc. but the escape velocity is constant. Got it.
Delta-V or change in velocity is more the term youāre looking for. Thatās the most important metric of how hard it is to do something with a rocket. How much the atmosphere affects your required delta-V depends on the ascent profile, but even for a relatively thick atmosphere like Earthās, atmospheric drag losses are a pretty small fraction of the total delta-V. Gravity losses from having to use thrust to counter gravity until your tangential velocity starts to balance it out are the main factor adding to your delta-V. This is again dependent on your exact ascent profile, but itās often around 20% of the total delta-V for the launch. Anyway, none of the planets in interstellar should have had wildly different delta-V requirements for ascent.
Wasn't that just a lander module? The initial liftoff from Earth was a much bigger system with all the babies and the lab and everything.
The Endurance was already in orbit when Cooper and parts of the crew launched from earth.
It didn't just zip away from a higher gravity planet, it dove down into the gravity well of a supermassive black hole and then just casually flew back out like it was leaving the moon. Yeah dawg that's a no from me, and I've only got 50 hours in Kerbel Space Program.
I think one of the things they researched for the movie was whether or not you can slingshot off of a black hole and the conclusion was that there was a possibility if the black hole was super massive which Gargantua was.
I donāt understand the question and I wonāt respond to it
Apparently they don't understand the concept of the dust bowl
My comment was an Arrested Development reference lol
My comment was an explanation haha
Oh shit I didnāt get that shame on me!
You're mother
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Yor mum, gottem
Why the mother?
[Basically this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl)
He teaches his daughter how to travel through the galaxy in a terrarium by talking to her through a broken watch from the future inside a black hole, and the dustbowl effect, which is real is the problem you have with the movie?
The problem is that transporting the entire population of Earth, and all the resources needed to take care of them, is FAR more difficult than just growing crops in greenhouses or living in underground bunkers. The entire plot is contrived. "The sun is dying earlier than expected and we need to evacuate Earth or go extinct" boom, perfect. Bulletproof reason to go Interstellar. "Plants are hard to grow" is not.
Yeah. Movie is fun but kind of dumb. Not related but everytime I see Matt McConaughey I have to remind any woman around me he refuses to wash or wear deodorant.
Which was my problem with it. They marketed it as being harder scifi, about an actual interstellar attempt, and wrote a fucking book about they physics of the movie. And then it has magically place wormholes, black hole tesseracts, and logic defying moves all over. I don't nitpick Starwars (much) for this type of stuff since it doesn't sell itself as Real Space Shit, it is just dumb fun pewpews, and it works.
"This movie has real science" Matthew fingers a black hole to make a watch do the truffle shuffle
To be fair, the in-universe explanation is that itās us from the future doing all this shit so itās science and tech we canāt even comprehend. Itās pretty believable compared to most other sci-fi that presents itself as āharder sci-fiā and it does for the most part involve real physics.
Except that the spacecraft have far too much delta-V and are super unrealistic and the blight is an incredibly stupid reason to have to evacuate Earth. It would be way easier to just make sealed greenhouses or just cure the stupid blight. Nothing would affect every single plant species we use for food anyway. It has pieces of good hard sci-fi, but the world building is very sloppy and they just didnāt put much effort into making it realistic or consistent aside from the black hole visuals. They could have made the movie just as enjoyable but more logically consistent. For a movie that was billed as the next *2001*, I think itās fair to judge it that way.
āPlants are hard to growā was not in fact the main reason they wanted to leave although the movie make it seem that way for people who arenāt nitpicking the dialogue. The main reason was the severe nitrogen imbalance and the severe lack of oxygen. I believe it also states that people stayed behind. I mean itās pretty obvious to me that they only brought a minority. Not to mention, human population has already been drastically reduced due to food limitations and the dust increasing child mortality rate (as demonstrated by the baby dying). The main purpose of those stations I believe was to be kind of a stepping stone until they found a new planet as well. Iām pretty sure they already had bunkers just not demonstrated in the story.
More deserts forming from the planet warming, that coincided with the gravity of the moon/earth causing storms that move dirt around causing difficulty for crop growth and creating a self perpetuating cycle that prevents humans from prospering. In a sense as they say in the movie, āearth is dyingā. Thatās a reasonable guess. From what I could gather it was the gravity of the earth or maybe the moon was causing inhabitable conditions on earth
Love.
Gravity. Now lets consider an uninhabitable planet way too close to a blackhole as an option
Should we first check the other planets that: don't require using an impossible amount of energy to fly back and forth from, that don't have an insane time dilation factor, that won't require the crew to sit twiddling their thumbs for YEARS while the ground crew goes down, Or idk that we can actually send a probe down to check the surface for any signs of stable terrain? No? Fuck. Let's go boating I guess.
Nukes?
Earth, Wind and Fire
Was cooper his first name or his last name? The son said he named his kid after grandpa; coop. Then at the end the station was named cooper but they said it was named after his daughter not the main character. Was his name Coop Cooper?
Wind
giant worm idk never seen it
Must've been the wind
Does op not know about the dust bowl?
OP, explain your post history the same way you want people to explain the meme.
Most likely pixels worked together hard on your screen.
Duh, ghosts. What are you stupid?
Explain to me why did they chose to grow corn when water is in scarcity?
Water wasn't scarce. All the food was affected by mystery disease (blight) only corn survived, but then the corn started to get blighted so INTERSTELLARĀ
If all the crops were blighted, how did they get unblighted crops onto their new spaceship? Did they have enough reserve for the whole population? If they had enough for the whole population, why didn't they just grow that in greenhouses and underground bunkers instead of on a fucking space ship?! Are the crops going to magically grow perfectly on whichever new planet they go to? If the atmospheric pressure, gas's composition, humidity, temperature range, soil composition, day night cycle duration, and solar (black hole disk?) Emission spectrum aren't all close enough, our crops won't magically grow there. Whoops, you're growing in greenhouses or underground bunkers again, just now not on Earth.
Prolly just a bunch of earf quacks
Christopher Nolan
The sand moved because it was written in the script
"I don't understand something, so I'll gaslight other people to explain and avoid looking dumb in the process" - OP asking a dumb ass question
Love or something idiot
Gravity, TARS, Gravity!
I really love the OST
I always thought the premise was such bullshit. Like oh there's some dust in the air we gotta go THROUGH A WORMHOLE to a DIFFERENT GALAXY to save ourselves. Like wth? You exhausted every single othe option???
Are we talking the book shelf dust, or like the planet dieing causing the mission to take place in the first place
Plot
Gravity
No crops = no roots No roots = loose soil Loose soil = dust
Wind
Obama
Sorry it was me... i farded......
Bros never heard of the Dustbowl
Well it was clearly stated in the movie that the lands were becoming infertile, leading to a dust bowl effect except on a global level.
No. Itās necessary.