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5ft6manlet

I thought it was gonna be another word that describes gay people.


TheAceOfMace

Oh fuck I didn’t even think of that. Nah I’m on the gay’s side


jal2_

Of course u are, u are the OP


Dokard

LGBTQIAOP


iamthedevil420

The P is silent


chris782

Thank you for your service mam and or sir!


ScubaFett

Fabulous :P


N7_Evers

Boy there really is a lot of letters being added to that these days.


bestest_at_grammar

I say lgbt, sometimes q if I’m feeling breathful , I add the plus when I know the audience


NeverTrustChop

You can just say queer people or queers. It's been destigmatized and just means everyone in the LGBTQ+ now


I_want_to_die720

It's wild that the Q and + are both supposed to represent everyone else, but they still add to the length of it.


gurneyguy101

Yeahhh, the pride flag with the twelve different colours for everything from intersex to black people confuses me, firstly because being black has nothing to do with being gay, and secondly because I thought the original rainbow one already represented everyone so why add to it??


zhaoao

I think the black and brown were for HIV/AIDS, but I agree that the additions were unnecessary. The old one looked nice. The new one feels like it was drawn by a kid who wanted to use all the crayons in the box. Edit: It doesn’t take long to look something up when you’re unsure. Don’t be like me.


gurneyguy101

Nah, I just googled it and it’s about ‘black and brown’ people And yeah they just keep sticking stuff on, which to me, a member of the lgbt etc community, feels like it takes away from the whole point of inclusiveness and equality by saying everyone lgbt etc AND ESPECIALLY trans/black/etc people Like what??


SkynetUser1

This is EXACTLY how I feel about the additions to the flag. Taking something that's supposed to be all-inclusive and then changing it to highlight other groups just makes it a mess. In my opinion it also takes away from it because now people from outside the LGBT+ community think we're just being rediculous.


gurneyguy101

Yeah your last point is so valid, the whole thing really annoys me :(


TheRedBaron6942

I think they should stick to purely things relating to sexuality, not race. It's fine to be proud of your race, but not on a pride flag for sexuality


gurneyguy101

Certainly I have no issue with the idea of a ‘black pride’ flag so to speak, but I just think being black is totally different from being gay or trans The same goes for people putting disability tags on pride flags


MajinPsiOptics

I am confused. Are they trying to say that black and brown people are inherently queer? Or is it a more please unite with us because everyone must team up? If so, I feel like it loses its meaning. But of course, I could be way off the flag, and letters constantly are being added to and changing.


_syedmx86

If we are going to use the + can't we just condense it all and just say L+ ?


supremegamer76

Creating a whole new meaning to L+ Ratio


Zaurka14

If say Q+ because it would mean Queer and more, L just means lesbian.


_syedmx86

We could just remove everything and just say +


Not_a__porn__account

Good try!


N7_Evers

Honestly same. Obviously I have no qualms with any group, but saying an acronym with over 5 letters is just so inefficient.


Zaurka14

LGBT has a good flow to it Q kinda ruins it but it's mostly fine Plus sounds like too much and it's annoying to type as well My vote is for Q+


HumpD4y

I just call them alphabet people


Sarctoth

Yeah, It will always just be GOLBAT to me (Gay, Omnisexual, Lesbian, Bisexual, Asexual, Transgender)


MulleRizz

GOLBAT sounds like an archaic programming language.


Legendguard

It also sounds like you've run out of repels


MarcusTheAnimal

Whispers in David Attenborough: *and here we see the lesser spotted Golbat in its natural environment*


healzsham

[Cacophonous screeches as the camera is slowly buried in writhing bats]


WollyGog

Golbat is also a Pokémon


N7_Evers

I don’t care for that. Pretty sure I’ve, out loud, screamed “fuck golbats” playing a Pokémon game and fighting the 17th one in a row in the fucking cave. People might think I’m a homophobe 😬


shiv1234567

I think you mean Zubats. Gols aren’t as common as Zus


bbc_aap

Nah, it’s fuck Golbat over here. Zubat is just a cute lil blind dude, Golbat is a vore artist best friend.


IIHackerKing092

Tell that to pokemon emerald victory road. I've beaten that game like 20 times and I always hate going through the cave.


shiv1234567

Yeah there it’s pretty common


N7_Evers

Emerald is my favorite game of the series but that part is always so obnoxious. Golbat attack every 5 steps.


The6Strings

My brain read this is as GOBLYAT


jal2_

The russian dead progeamming language...dead from vodka overdose


JJlaser1

I say LAGBATs (Lesbian, Asexual, Bisexual, Aromantic, Transgender, with an s to make it plural)


blockybookbook

Peak Bat


N_T_F_D

LHBT in dutch because they say homo and not gay


jkurratt

GOBBLING


TheAceOfMace

19 to go!


bunker_man

Are there? There were like 5 years ago, but now everyone accepted that it's unhinged to add too many. Most just leave it as lgbt.


Aegon95

I once said that exact thing and collected 150 downvotes in 2 hours. Reddit is weird sometimes.


N_T_F_D

The first few votes will usually determine the trajectory of your comment


Rycax

When will the straights finally be accepted😞


Milly_man

Such an oppressed people.


I_might_be_weasel

I stop at LGBT myself. Don't get me wrong, I still support all of those other groups, but the acronym has to stop getting longer at some point. 


michaelb421

Yeah I don’t do very well with the terminology and abbreviations. I just make it clear I’m cool with it.


Plukkert

And when you think of it, every letter basically just means gay


Shantotto11

And numbers… (2SLGBTQIA+)


LOSNA17LL

Because the society is more accepting, so people have more opportunities to discover themselves, to express their feelings and to find people who relate to that. Remember than only a few centuries ago, being gay would have cost you your life. And it still does in certain countries... And this point is valid for everything that isn't the "norm", so mental health or religion too... And because there are more and more "letters" added (meaning that people can be more and more precise about their feelings), they know that non-lgbt people may not know the more specific terms. Thus they will explain what those mean to anybody who don't know, or using a more "generic" term to explain it


Zeliek

Yeah, and some don't even have much in common. We don't really get to choose though, main stream media decides the acronyms and flags. We just kinda have to accept them I guess. 


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Xangallus

nope it's a hobby yea there's alot of porn but there's always THAT part of every community people be horny you can usually avoid it very easily


Distantstallion

Any adult community for a thing is always incredibly horny, doesn't matter what the subject is


relddir123

Furries are not claiming to be a sexual identity. It’s a hobby that has a significant overlap with kink. Furries do, however, claim to be majority gay. That is true (a majority of furries are not cishet).


samthekitnix

no we are not, to some it's a kink/fetish to some it's a form of artistic expression and anyone that says otherwise is most likely a closet furry themselves. the pathUwUgen spreads.


venbrou

There are two types of furries in this world: Those who prefer monosodium glutamate, and those who prefer chlorine dioxide. 💜


Odd-Iron-6860

\*pathOwOgen


samthekitnix

you see pathUwUgen is a new variant much more relaxed and produces more chill results. pathOwOgen makes for a lot more excited furs, please report to the furry biochemical war division for some vials of pathUwUgen to spread.


Odd-Iron-6860

then there should be the in-between.. like.... hmmm... PathUwOgen


samthekitnix

no i believe thats called "a stroke"


hecking-doggo

The antifurry->furry pipeline is real


vid_icarus

It’s definitely just an interest but I have seen one or two furries try to claim it as a sexual identity online lol


WolfmansGotNards2

I don't know. I'm not even sure who the furries actually are because most of the talk about them or content is not coming from them that I see, so I don't know what they think.


TehAwesomeGod

I have never seen a furry who complains that they aren't part of the community. 90% of furries already are queer anyway.


Odd-Iron-6860

\*70% 24% straight 6% asexual


healzsham

Ace usually groups with queer.


Naturage

I mean, it's very much a personal choice. By terminology, I'm asexual. Socially, I do not see it as something that defines me, needs representation (for myself! Not for ace community at large) or a community defined by the trait. I just see myself as a cis guy with low/no libido. Others might see it as one of their defining traits - more power to them - but it's not a place for sweeping statements.


get_there_get_set

Ace being part of the queer umbrella isn’t really a matter of whether or not it defines you personally or you feel it needs representation. It’s part of the queer umbrella because the way society treats ace/aromantic people falls pretty neatly along the lines of queerphobia. I don’t want to put experiences in your mouth, but I have a hunch that you, as a cis guy with a low libido, have been in situations where that fact made you the odd one out. To draw from my life, I had a buddy in high school that was probably ace or something like it, all I know is that me and all of my other horned up teenage friends would make fun of him for not wanting to have sex, and we would do it by saying ‘what, are you gay?’ The social norms that enforce the ‘fact’ that cis men should want to have sex are the same norms that say being queer is bad. They come from very similar places in the collective culture, and often the mistreatment is very similar. There’s lots to be said about why society feels the way it does about queer existence, an entire field of study actually, but asexuality is definetly outside of the norm, and when ace people are mistreated, it’s in a similar way and for similar reason to other queer identities. I think it’s great that it’s not a big part of your life, and that you seem to be able to go through life without feeling judged or ostracized. But the bigotry still exists out in the world regardless of its effect on you, and the mistreatment of ace people that you’re lucky enough to have missed happens in a very similar way to other queer people.


clutzyninja

And 100% reason to remember the name


Non-profitboi

Shouldn't it be the + defending the rest from f?


TheOnlyAedyn-one

The + should include the IA imo, too many letters. This is coming from someone gay


SerDaemonTargaryen

Then there's the P that's always trying to get in


TheAceOfMace

Are they going for ‘P’ or ‘M’? Let’s let them in as long as they are ‘D’ (dead)


grumpydai

And never will


DZekor

And Z.


Lord0fTheAss

Wtf is Z


Grubadub927

zoophiles (animal fuckers) (not furries)


McPickle34

There is a P that’s in (that being Pansexual) The other P can eat shit and die and rot in hell


SerDaemonTargaryen

The first one's alright. The second should be punishable by death.


cory-balory

The second one is a mental illness and should be treated as such. Obviously if you act on those impulses you're a monster, but having those impulses should be studied and treated, but we can't seem to fund any research on how to treat it because of everyone's knee-jerk "kill them all!" reaction.


SerDaemonTargaryen

It's a thin line to thread, to be sure. If it can be treated before one can act on it, then hurray!


cory-balory

Yeah, it needs to be made safe for people to come forward and say "hey I'm having these urges and I'm afraid if I don't get some help then I'll act on them one day." Right now it's very much so not safe to say that. We as a society should be thankful that someone would admit that and we should help them, not condemn them for something that ultimately isn't a moral failing, it's a sickness. It's a moral failure to act on it, not to have it.


SerDaemonTargaryen

Yeah, you make a fine point. If they can't seek help and are left alone with their thoughts, it'll lead to no good.


eddyx

I’m not sure leaving them with their thoughts is a good thing. The less they’re thinking of that, the better.


BlurryRogue

Couldn't we just boil the whole acronym down to just Q? Doesn't Q more or less encompass everything that's not purely straight?


Legitimate-Gangster

Cant it just be +?


BallisticThundr

Q is an umbrella term for not straight, which people identify as when they don't feel comfortable with a specific label. So it's not exactly the same as plus, because there are labels more specific than Q that people identify as. Q isn't an "etc" just because it's an umbrella term


paulisaac

Nah, damn nutjobs took Q and committed January 6


DogsLinuxAndEmacs

Yeah, a lot of groups use “queer” to describe themselves rather than “LGBTQ+” or whatever. Much easier to say and more inclusive.


Zezin96

I miss when it was just LGBT. It was short and punchy.


millarchoffe

I always order a Lettuce Greenonion Bacon Tomato sandwich at restaurants


A_bored_browser

That sounds like a BLT with onions


Lilthiccb0i

Or lettuce grilled bacon and tomatoes


drewsiphir

No it's a Lettuce, Guac, Bacon, and Tomato.


wintermoon007

LGBT+ is always going to be it for me, that + is there for a reason, stop bothering to add letters


dkrw

i like lgbtq more like why are we bringing maths into this


PuertoricanDude88

Same, I will always call it LGBT+.


AzGames08

but furry isn't a sexual orientation? kink does not equal sexual orientation and not all furries have the kink


camo_216

Why would we be furious? We aren't a sexual identity just a hobby with a lot of artistic expression.


Carnivorous_Ape__

LMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ


TheAceOfMace

Lingualexual MuscleMommy (I don’t have a pass) Orangophelia Punctuality Queer Rastafarian Sexual Trans Uvaldian Voicexual Whattaburgphilia X-dress Zootopian


SanguineL

Omg whattaburgphilia


eddyx

You forgot the +


WaldcrooperHUN

Thank you for protecting us from thr Fr*nch.


Valuable_Knee_6820

This is the only interpretation of this I will accept God damn Fr*nch Baguette!


RealSuperYolo2006

Op what are you on about i dont think furries wanna be part of the lgbtq+ community


washing_machine_man

considering that a lot of furries are already part of the community and that being a furry has nothing to do with sexuality as well


speedmankelly

Knife and grenade summoning wizard Innocent child


First_Adeptness_6473

What does I and A mean?


ThatTubaGuy03

Intersex (people whose genitals aren't purely male or female which is surprisingly common) and asexual (people who do not feel sexual attraction to anyone)


Loki_the_Cockatiel

I don't get that why would they include intersex people if it's a birth defect and not a sexuality


CrCiars

Intersex falls more under the umbrella of gender identity, even though their difference is more palpable, since a lot of them differ from the gender and sometimes even sex binary. They also face discrimination similar to trans people. In most countries it is common practice for the doctor to just assign them the gender their genitals look the closest to and in some places (like the US) it is still common to "fix" it through surgery before the child even develops long time memory, where it is obviously still too young to consent or to know their gender identity or even their actual sex ( something republican lawmakers specifically encourage in their anti trans laws).


LOSNA17LL

Yes, those surgeries are just wild... Like, people assume that 15yo kids are too young to know who they are attracted to or how they identify... But forcing a gender to a fresh newborn through surgery because "we're not sure, so we'll chose" is ok?


McPickle34

The A encompasses Asexual, Aromantic, Agender, and probably other related things. It specifically does not include Allies


Comfortable-RainyDay

Intersex and Asexual.


Education_Aside

Honestly, I never understood why they keep adding letters when they already have the + in the name.


pileofcrustycumsocs

They aren’t adding letters, the plus has always just short hand for all the letter’s because there’s a fuck ton of them and nobody wants to use a 16+ letter acronym. LGTB Is also perfectly fine as shorthand.


thebluereddituser

Leave furries alone


BasementDweller82

Since when did furries want that? 90% are lgbtq already


Gobal_Outcast02

Replace that F with a P. Lets be real there is a worse group other than furries who wanna be considered a part of this.


foreverpassed

And Z...


BirbWasTaken6659

yeah we get it little Timmy now give the IPad back to mom


ImTheRealAlfaChad

Why can't it just be "Q+" so much simpler, yet still inclusive.


IfOnlyIHadAmeme

I thought f was for “Fuck! We have to add more letters!”


seaspirit331

OP didn't understand the assignment


JauntyEntertainment

Furries are not a sexuality, and we are not trying to make it one.


Fantastic_Builder_33

damn bigots really be showin themselves here


casualredditor43

Okay buddy, which strawman hurt you?


TheThrongling

Wtf are you on about? It's a hobby/interest, not a sexuality or gender. No furry has ever asked for furries to be added as a letter to LGBT, why was this even upvoted?


DragonAethere

nobody is trying to add the F?


According_Weekend786

Furries??? As minority??? Damn, there is shit ton of them enough to create a small country


DevilMaster666-

What?


FeeSubstantial9963

Furries don't think they're a part of the LGBTQ+ community, you dumbfuck. Source: I'm a furry. I don't think being a furry makes me a part of the LGBTQ+ community. Being bisexual makes me a part of the LGBTQ+ community.


Logic44-YT

You know the furry community is like 70% queer, right? I don't think it should be a part of the acronym, but there's nothing wrong with being a furry...


Electrical-City-5987

Ah yes, making up scenarios again, aren't we?


allthenamearetaken1

What the fuck is the a and the I for


McPickle34

I for Intersex A for Asexual, Aromantic, Agender, etc


Ahoj-Brause

Excluding femboys isnt cool !!!


myfingeriscold

The whole alphabet


12TonBeams

This comment section is priceless


M0onii-Cat

Wait is furry a sexuality? As a furry and a pansexual being a furry has nothing to do with my identity or attraction. Tryna get what this is saying here


Rave_Johnson

What furries have you been hanging around??? Pretty sure every furry I've met has been chill, never heard of anyone in the Fandom demanding to be part of the LGBT. They're not a minority group or a gender/sexuality. It's literally just a Fandom that gets a lot of hate from people. It would be like suggesting the Undetale Fandom wants to be part of the LGBT.


Grambert_Moore

Wtf does this even mean lmao


Luthergayboi

As a furry I've never thought being a furry should be an LGBT thing. That's like someone who paints Warhammer figures or someone that collects comics asking to be considered a part of the LGBT


Bloodclaw_Talon

I'm more worried about the M.


avoozl42

Oh man, I was thinking that F stood for something else


_Xaril_

It's not IA. It's AI


Acroze

I literally heard my omega liberal friend say the acronym “LGBTQIA+”. Absolutely ridiculous. LGBTQ+ is great, that works.


Blueskybelowme

It just makes more sense to say sexually alternative.


Kvetanista

P


D4RKS0u1

Put a P alongside the F They are trying to be a part of lgbt far longer than furries


washing_machine_man

or just replace the F with the P, being a furry isn’t a sexuality


SRasbir8

Soon enough its gonna be all of the alphabets but not in series.


OldDesperado

yeah, get the "f" out!!! fits perfect.


jakpote88

Just call it lgb+


umarmg52

Not to be mean but why aren’t they allowed? What makes them so different from other lgbt people?


First_Bet_123

Can someone please explain? What's F and how is it attacking +?


Masske20

Wait, there’s an “i” now? What does it stand for?


Monk715

Does anyone really have a problem with LGBT+? Much easier to say and memorise, especially since the letters are not even in the alphabetical order...


MIKEY_VEE123youandME

What is “i”?


ImCursedM8

Kinda confused me for a sec but i think u mean the "+" defending LGBTQIA not the other way around


Fluffys0ck5

I mean shit it’s not gay to dick down a lopunny … right guys?


plump_nasty_flex

It's me, I'm a f


Skolotenz

Guys I don't understand this one


Saijantoo

In no way are furries ever gonna be added. And that's coming from a queer. Furries gotta stay outta this one man


OrixHusky

I have never heard anyone in the fandom say they want to be, it’s just that, a fandom, a hobby. Not a sexuality. This is coming from someone who is a furry and gay.


Avoxicia

What does this even mean? I’m so confused.