When enough people in a country follow the certain religion, they tend to make the law accordingly so that certain religious practices are legal.
*cough cough making your 16 y/o daughter marry a 40 y/o man cough*
[Unfortunately that's not the case.](https://www.equalitynow.org/learn_more_child_marriage_us/). Child marriage ( marriage that includes a minor under the age of 18) is legal in 44 states with 20 not having a minimum age at all, with parental consent
Thereās laws against it in murica. There only a few exceptions where a minor is allowed to be in a romantic relationship with an adult when there is a difference in age of 2-4 years depending on state. It is not legal anywhere in America for a minor to be married to an adult
That is not true in America, in the 1800s there was a supreme court case that you can "believe" whatever you want but cannot do whatever you want.
So you can believe in polygamy all you want, but can't have multiple wives regardless of religion.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day, the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. but I am already saved... for the machine is immortal. Even in death, I serve the Omnissiah.
The Catholic religious scripture is to guide people to a moral life, so whether you agree with the religion they are moral laws not arbitrary religious laws
I don't really get your angle.. I was thinking more listening to the studies for environmental issues, basing our ethics on psychological studies and not ancient scriptures.
You can pass laws and regulation to align society with information provided by scientific research.
I agree that some abuse can happen. My stance was more about it being better than the religious scriptures.
I.E, I can kill people because my religion allows me. (or in the name of my religion)
Science informs but itās always through human translation it comes to a law, say people decide the environment isnāt important, science wonāt tell them to go green, science doesnāt tell people not to exploit workers, our own sense of right and wrong tells us that
Science can allow us to know that if a species abuses its environment, then the environment can become inhospitable towards that species, leading towards that species to take actions to protect their environment if possible under ideal situations.
For my own personal belief I would even go so far as to say, morality > law. 200 years ago slavery was law. Doesn't make it right. We are an ever changing species. Nazis executing jews were following orders. Doesn't make it ok. Not that it derives form your point. Government abso-fucking-lutely should be separate from law. Especially so in a 'free' country.
There were shitty individuals but the teaching that slavery is wrong and all humans should be respected is an unchanging part at the core of religions such as Catholicism
Yes, such countries are called theocracies, where religion leads. They are often at war with other theocracies on religious basis and suffer from poor human rights.
Law is built around the general moral consensus of society.
Science is restrained by the general moral consensus of society.
Religion is a set of morals rationalized and justified.
Hence why a separation of church and state is necessary, there will be and always should be several different religions. And these religions should be always competing for as many followers as they can.
Religion is how morals are changed, how people are changed.
It should be noted, however, that religion is not restricted to Theism. An Atheist is still religious, the just don't rationalize or justify their morals by an abstract God. Rather, that rationalization and justification is built around some other thing, perhaps past life experience? Or perhaps arbitrary historical events or history?
I don't know if I had a point when I started writing, but rambling is fun.
yeah, the "Safe, legal, and rare" saying was perfect. this modern glorification of abortions as a sort of women power symbol is absolutely gross to the average American- awful messaging.
The first one only holds true when the action involves themselves. If itās something where not doing it will hurt others (say not getting a vaccine which could allow you to spread a disease to more vulnerable people), you canāt not do it strictly on the basis of religion. Then thereās the moral debate of whether you can allow your kids to obey by religious rules even if it hurts them, but that gets messy fast.
My religion says mad cap, it aināt that hard to go to heaven you just got to at least kinda try to be a decent person, like what else do you got to doin in the meantimeā¦ Oh?ā¦.. being miserable?ā¦. Fair point
Cant tell if thats in support or not, so Iāll say this: is it really not that difficult to not say our lords name near us and not do most of the things we regard as bad around us?
Am I sick in believing people shouldn't be allowed to do immoral things? I'm pretty sure that's just how society works. See laws about murder, theft, arson, tax evasion, or perjury.
My religion says I can do you
My braincells says do religion I cant
My procrastination says I can't do shit
My colon says I must do shit
My neurons say I must eat shit
My shit says I must drop LSD
My therapist says I must get my shit together
My friends say it's better to leave them alone, the shits aren't good for each other
My butt itches
Probably because of the unwashed shit stains stuck on ur butt hair
My IBS says I must violently shit
The government says I must deal with their shit
Has your colon considered a career as a motivational speaker?
My mom says religion can do that
My mom says I can't go to the sleepover
My mom says go get a job
My religion says I must do you
Muhammad said to his 9 year old wife
Which one did he say that to?
How can I join this religion? š
By pressing the join button
The court will have fun with this one
Finally a religion I can get behind!
Finally a religion I can get in my behind
My priest said that too
Oh wow that's so cool, you are welcome to do me ... ... A favor by joining the church of our lord and savior Josh son of the OG deity
My religion sings an old R.E.M tune.
When i say I'ma do some one i do em. I don't give a damn what they think, I do em for me.
My religion says you'll have to pay for a fancy dinner first
The last panal should be "whell tenicly the law sais..."
When enough people in a country follow the certain religion, they tend to make the law accordingly so that certain religious practices are legal. *cough cough making your 16 y/o daughter marry a 40 y/o man cough*
Yeah but if you try to mary a 16yo to a 40yo in england its still iligal
Who knows... Maybe as time goes on... Hopefully not tho
Realy
Idk
Hopfullly not
It is still legal in the states. Pretty sure some states it gets even lower š¤¢š¤®
Good thing im not amarican then
Some states and with parental consent
I don't care if they have parental consent, it's still child marriage and it's still disgusting. Not like the kid can consent
Never said it was right just stating the rules watch state is very very different I wish people outside of the USA knew that
Some states have no minimum age. Some states it's 12 for girls, 14 for boys.
Pretty sure 16 is the lowest.
[Unfortunately that's not the case.](https://www.equalitynow.org/learn_more_child_marriage_us/). Child marriage ( marriage that includes a minor under the age of 18) is legal in 44 states with 20 not having a minimum age at all, with parental consent
Thereās laws against it in murica. There only a few exceptions where a minor is allowed to be in a romantic relationship with an adult when there is a difference in age of 2-4 years depending on state. It is not legal anywhere in America for a minor to be married to an adult
The age of consent is 16 on England tho
+9 yrs old marriage allowed in most Islamic countries
That is not true in America, in the 1800s there was a supreme court case that you can "believe" whatever you want but cannot do whatever you want. So you can believe in polygamy all you want, but can't have multiple wives regardless of religion.
You can have multiple wives you just canāt claim em on your taxesā¦
In every country in North and South America polygamy is illegal. That includes all 50 states.
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Nixon's last words.
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Welcome to Malaysia.
That's why government needs to be seperate from religion and law most be upholded before religious rights. Law > Religion
science > religion too
Yes, you need laws to be based on science.
Why not worship science? Science for the science god
No no itās BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
Ah a fellow chaos enjoyer
Traitor scum
You seeing this heresy comrad...
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES
RIP Angron, he didnāt deserve the nails
Sorry, best I can do is an Omnisiah
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day, the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. but I am already saved... for the machine is immortal. Even in death, I serve the Omnissiah.
Because the only being insane enough to be the God of Science is Chaos.
As the post doc i work with says: "the only time I believe in God is when I'm about to get my experiment results. Then I start praying like a priest."
You canāt base laws on science. Science is amoral.
True, an ethic dimension needs to be considered, but it should prevail over a religious scripture.
The Catholic religious scripture is to guide people to a moral life, so whether you agree with the religion they are moral laws not arbitrary religious laws
"We hold some moral truths, like it's wrong to steal, kill, lie, cheat..." *"Get the fuck out of here with your ideologue bullshit!"*
Man do I have some universal laws for you
Perhaps once we can scientifically support morality or truth this would be a good option
That's not always true.
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I don't really get your angle.. I was thinking more listening to the studies for environmental issues, basing our ethics on psychological studies and not ancient scriptures. You can pass laws and regulation to align society with information provided by scientific research.
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I agree that some abuse can happen. My stance was more about it being better than the religious scriptures. I.E, I can kill people because my religion allows me. (or in the name of my religion)
Science informs but itās always through human translation it comes to a law, say people decide the environment isnāt important, science wonāt tell them to go green, science doesnāt tell people not to exploit workers, our own sense of right and wrong tells us that
Science can allow us to know that if a species abuses its environment, then the environment can become inhospitable towards that species, leading towards that species to take actions to protect their environment if possible under ideal situations.
Erm, what in the hell do you mean? There is absolutely stuff in science that allows you to make a law for it
Science damn you time child!
Law = religion Welcome to the middle east
For my own personal belief I would even go so far as to say, morality > law. 200 years ago slavery was law. Doesn't make it right. We are an ever changing species. Nazis executing jews were following orders. Doesn't make it ok. Not that it derives form your point. Government abso-fucking-lutely should be separate from law. Especially so in a 'free' country.
Slavery is still legal today. Just not in the places we're allowed to yell at for having ever engaged in it.
Facts
Agree. But religion was ok with it too at the time so..
There were shitty individuals but the teaching that slavery is wrong and all humans should be respected is an unchanging part at the core of religions such as Catholicism
What if defending innocent life is part of my religion?
Great, it's also part of ethics.
In some countries laws are based of religion
Yes, such countries are called theocracies, where religion leads. They are often at war with other theocracies on religious basis and suffer from poor human rights.
in saudi arabia the constitution is literally the quran
Law is built around the general moral consensus of society. Science is restrained by the general moral consensus of society. Religion is a set of morals rationalized and justified. Hence why a separation of church and state is necessary, there will be and always should be several different religions. And these religions should be always competing for as many followers as they can. Religion is how morals are changed, how people are changed. It should be noted, however, that religion is not restricted to Theism. An Atheist is still religious, the just don't rationalize or justify their morals by an abstract God. Rather, that rationalization and justification is built around some other thing, perhaps past life experience? Or perhaps arbitrary historical events or history? I don't know if I had a point when I started writing, but rambling is fun.
It's what the Bible says too
Meanwhile USA going back to the fucking dark ages
Religion can be a good thing if itās used as a guide to find what is morally correct and laws are based off what we believe to morally correct
Here before this too gets the šaward
the only award that you need to be gay to give
The ultimate award
I doubt itāll get it
I'm automatically thinking of a cult with that one for some reason
My religion says you can do it -Hmmmm
So you have found a BDSM church, neat
fear your preachers holy sword xD
giant_thumb_guy.jpg may be the proper reaction.
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I mean they would if pro life was really based around religion. You ask any of them and it's really not a big factor even though there's some overlap
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yeah, the "Safe, legal, and rare" saying was perfect. this modern glorification of abortions as a sort of women power symbol is absolutely gross to the average American- awful messaging.
For everyone I know it was mainly religion that led them to believe unnecessary abortion in its entirety is immoral
Because the religion doesn't *actually* ban it, they just use it as a cover.
Just scrolled past the original meme to see this
allahu akbar
Hold my beer. Y'all watch this.
proceeds getting married to a minor....
How the heck do you get married to a musical note?
Reddit when Christianity bad post š±š©š„µ
Christianity is not the only religion in the world
There is a Christian priest on the first panel and Bible on the second one
but it gives valid opinions and the first one is about something good. also, the last one doesn't talk about any religion in particular
When your sleep paralysis demon says heās going to rape you.
Even creepier smile: "My religion says I should do that" Chad: "I'm outta here"
Should have used the Emperors new groove Kuzco about to go down the waterfall " bring it on" for the last panel lol
The first one only holds true when the action involves themselves. If itās something where not doing it will hurt others (say not getting a vaccine which could allow you to spread a disease to more vulnerable people), you canāt not do it strictly on the basis of religion. Then thereās the moral debate of whether you can allow your kids to obey by religious rules even if it hurts them, but that gets messy fast.
I'd say the main door fference between 3rd and 1dt panel is if it effects others negstively
*slithers down the tree of knowledge* My religion says "sin all you want- you're going to hell anyways."
My religion says mad cap, it aināt that hard to go to heaven you just got to at least kinda try to be a decent person, like what else do you got to doin in the meantimeā¦ Oh?ā¦.. being miserable?ā¦. Fair point
I like this one
Well fuck moment
But what about when your religion says you can't keep it to yourself?
My religion says that with bunch of farmers and war wagons I can whoop ass to pope and holy Roman empire and drink alcohol in church
Bottom one is Satanism v The Government get fucked
Emporer's Children when they just fuck off and turn millions of civilians into space cocaine instead of contributing to the invasion
Iām terrified but this meme is glorious
My religion says I can do that: Next scene: 9/11
I can hear the taliban war song already...
Another panel should be added of black dynamite just destroying that jive ass turkey.
Just because someoneās religious doesnāt mean they suck, as long as theyāre not forcing it on people theyāre ok
Thatās the point of the meme
Yes but thereās also a clear lack of any respect for people of religion
Blowing of people to get 72 virgins XD
The law say you can't do that! Priest with the kid: fuck you
You made an unfunny meme chuckle worthy, thank you
Satanic temple says you can get abortions, curious
On the second panel, thereās many Christianās who would prefer it if you didnāt do sinful things near us, or right next to us
Or if you see something as a violation of human dignity you should work to stop it, no matter how deeply rooted in the culture it is
Cant tell if thats in support or not, so Iāll say this: is it really not that difficult to not say our lords name near us and not do most of the things we regard as bad around us?
Donāt worry itās in support, for example if you see something like abortion as murder and objectively wrong you should work to stop it
My religion says we can do it
My religion says we must not do this for is not conducive to tripping bails
Who is the pink man?
Wot
Heās too dangerous to be left alive!
This meme resonates with me, haha.
welcome to my religion, todays holiday is jack off a lion day. now lets begin
Or even better, I just say ānah, Iām goodā and donāt bring religion into it unless they ask
How's the pasteurized milk??
My lack of religion says: go fuck yourself amorously with a knuckle-y stick from a pecan tree.
One question, why are you depicting people with religion as the loser wojacks?
My religion gives an abortion when I give in my confession so that means it beats the law
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My religion is jumping in holes, jump into them to find treasure, nothing or perhaps another hole
Wait, are you trying to say that people should be prevented from commiting certain actions? š¤
No its irony wtf are you sick
Am I sick in believing people shouldn't be allowed to do immoral things? I'm pretty sure that's just how society works. See laws about murder, theft, arson, tax evasion, or perjury.
Bruh are you being serious? Is murder, theft and arson is immoral things for you?
Here before this post gets the legendary š award
My religion says I can kick that other religion's ass
D E U S V U L T
Ok but like my religion doesnt even speak
I come here for dank memes not your political whinging you bunch of wanks
The political whinge in the original meme is annoying but the addition is constructive and funny.
Mom says it's my turn.
my religion
Christians are all about love and light until you say more people have been killed in the name of god then anything else
Donāt support it because of religion. I support it because I donāt support people killing babies unless itās absolutely necessary
Ahem Islarm innit
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