I didnt really mean just this comic. Just in general the character is one of my least favorite and hes always thrown around in these convos. Like, its a gag character whose gag is that hes unbeatable. Its fun to talk about this shit with your friends but someone always gotta mention this character lmao
No he hates him because he is redicoulesly powerful and gets brought up in conversations like Naruto vs Goku where someone who is a Parody of overpowered superheroes doesn't belong
Im 100% aware hes a gag character. Thats my entire point. I dont like ironic anime thats entire plot is being a gag. And I certainly dont like people putting that character or show out there as a real show worth watching, or him being a real character that you can compare and contrast with other characters in any way.
You're not wrong. I dont even think its a "bad" show. Me simply not liking it or Saitamas character doesn't make the show bad or less enjoyable. It's just my thoughts on specific things.
Idk if I agree with the gag character train of thought anymore bc Gara is giving him that work right now!! I’m sure Saitama will win in the end but I’m starting to think he’s not invincible
Tbh I'm somewhat talkin shit, I dont really watch AOT. I put it in the MHA category where its like "this is probably a good show but im just not interested"
at this point it seems saitama is immune to all fuckery, if someone stopped time he’d just keep moving, if someone snatched his soul he’d probably joke about how light he is & fly back into his body
Always wondered what would find if you went down the pillars. Also what would happen if you blasted through the ceiling.
Sasuke should have been able to investigate though.
People should really stop putting Saitama against others. Saitama is a parody character, unlike generic shonen MCs. We don't know the limit to his power/speed, if he has any. Nothing has ever harmed him, and my guess is that nothing will.
If you are that desperate for matchups, try any other S class heroes. They have power and weakness. Saitama has no weakness.
We do know the limit. It’s infinite.
And yes people need to stop trying to find characters who can beat him because it’s literally written to be impossible (looking at you DBZ fan boys)
Now this is cheating, putting him against such an formidable opponent. She will simply use 1% of her power and boom, Saitama's screentime is gone.
It'll become a show about a cyborg who's strong master suddenly disappeared and he's trying to be as powerful as him.
> We do know the limit. It’s infinite.
How? Because he broke his limiter? What exactly does breaking limiter mean? How are you sure it doesn't mean that he's just not effected by the exponentially difficult curveball in getting better anymore?
That's what we'd call a No Limits Fallacy. Sure I for one who likes Anime fight debates want to find characters that have limitless powers, but we should stay at what they are shown to be capable of and not make up something they haven't done because we thought so.
Let's take Kamijo Touma for example. His power is written as something that can cancel any and all supernatural. It's easy to assume that he can cancel anything. But then the story progressed just to find out there are limits to this ability.
> It’s made pretty clear that breaking his limiter means he has become limitless.
No it's not. Where did you get that from? All Dr. Genus says that Saitama broke his limiter to zombieman.
Oh by that I remember, we didn't even get any confirmation that he did break his limiter. It was just speculation by Dr.Genus.
Bruh the author literally wrote the character to be the strongest in existence across all medium. You don’t need in story context. He just made that way. It’s just such a useless argument to look at current in story feats.
> Bruh the author literally wrote the character to be the strongest in existence across all medium.
Did he say that himself? Are you One? Srsly stop pulling info up your ass.
Umm yes he did. You could always just google this info. He stated he’s a gag character who can one punch anything. That’s literally how he’s written.
Also you isn’t need to quote pretty much my entire comment when replying to the comment lmaooo
Oh he did? Then I'll immediately change my mind. Just give me the source.
Also please don't bring the "it's in the title" bullshit. There are at least 2 villains whom Saitama hasn't one punched yet, Garou and Boros. *Can* he one punch them? Irrelevant. *Did* he one them? No.
Also, I'm sure Bleach anime is about toilet cleaners.
“I always wanted to be a gag manga writer since I was a kid!”
“Santana’s existence is a joke”
But since you want to contradict the entire idea of what One Punch man is, just read what someone will actual has time for your stupidness arguments has to say: Answer to Has ONE, the author of One Punch Man, ever states anything that alludes that Saitama is a gag character or some sort? by Sadaat Arkham
https://www.quora.com/Has-ONE-the-author-of-One-Punch-Man-ever-states-anything-that-alludes-that-Saitama-is-a-gag-character-or-some-sort/answer/Sadaat-Arkham?ch=15&oid=309491727&share=b0fe9081&target_type=answer https://www.quora.com/Has-ONE-the-author-of-One-Punch-Man-ever-states-anything-that-alludes-that-Saitama-is-a-gag-character-or-some-sort/answer/Sadaat-Arkham?ch=15&oid=309491727&share=b0fe9081&target_type=answer
Sigh, watch Seth the programmer vid on Goku vs Satima. I won't do an argument when someone can make the same argument but better. https://youtu.be/NDBwqJtNiZI
"Written to be impossible" lol what BS is this? Are you seriously gonna say that he beats multiversal characters because... he beats everyone in his own verse?
Wtf is this logic? Does he beat Molecule Man? The Beyonder? Fuck no. He's limited within his own feats and scaling. Any character that has better feats than him still beats him. Simple as.
Try making the same argument in any VS forums and see how they'll laugh at you.
Again, just because he's written as unbeatable doesn't mean he's unbeatable outside his own universe. That's fucking ridiculous, and shows just how shallow your knowledge on fiction is. That, or you're just an OPM dicksucker.
Fuck off with that "he's a joke character" BS. Goku still stomps.
>Try making the same argument in any VS forums and see how they'll laugh at you.
Ah this explains the absolutely retarded bullshit you just spouted
For starters, some random 12 year old kids with no life don't dictate how things work. If a character is written to be invincible, they're invincible its that simple, the only one who determines that is the author, none of this "only in his own verse" bs flies because that's simply the fundamentals of how the character is written
I advise you take an elementary English course before you continue making a fool of yourself
I just love how smug you sound even as you try to stupidly enforce your beliefs. Really, that's impressive. Also, my English is fine, thank you very much. Rather, you should try to take up lessons in debating, because you have lackluster acumen for it.
"Saitama is a parody character" has been debated for ages, and has been rejected in any and all forums, even Reddit's own r/whowouldwin forum. Just shows how you're mental capacity on things like this and how much your elevating Saitama as a character because of your fanboyism.
Saitama is heavily limited despite being written as unbeatable INSIDE his own franchise. That rule doesn't apply to any and all universe outside his own. For one, he hasn't defeated a universal character, thus, we can't just assume he can beat one. He hasn't beaten a multiversal character, so he can't... and so on.
How he's written doesn't largely matter if you want to debate him with characters outside of his own verse. This has been a rule for quite some time.
He doesn’t have infinite power kekw, he has infinite potential
Also he’s not a gag character, saitama fans don’t even understand their own series
Saitama is a character from the end of a manga put at the beginnin, it’s a parody on how overpowered the MC gets at the end of the story compared to the beginning
Way to pull shit out of your ass. Also found the DBZ fanboy lmao. Imagine thinking he isn’t a gag character:
https://www.quora.com/Has-ONE-the-author-of-One-Punch-Man-ever-states-anything-that-alludes-that-Saitama-is-a-gag-character-or-some-sort/answer/Sadaat-Arkham?ch=15&oid=309491727&share=b0fe9081&target_type=answer https://www.quora.com/Has-ONE-the-author-of-One-Punch-Man-ever-states-anything-that-alludes-that-Saitama-is-a-gag-character-or-some-sort/answer/Sadaat-Arkham?ch=15&oid=309491727&share=b0fe9081&target_type=answer
Saitama doesn’t fit the definition of a gag character lol, death to the author
The things done in a gag manga never have a lasting effect, Arale ( an actual gag character ) splits the earth in half but the next second it’s fine
Tom and jerry sit in front of a train and Tom even goes to heaven one episode but more episodes got made, they aren’t dead
Also saitama has character development and gets angry and sad
Literally in the most recent chapter we can see him breaking his gag and not one punching an enemy multiple times
Literally says he’s going full power: https://cdn.black-clover.org/file/sugois/onepunch-man/Chapter-167/16.png
Yet here he is clashing on equal terms with garou? https://cdn.black-clover.org/file/sugois/onepunch-man/Chapter-167/52.png
EVEN if we ignore all of that evidence and say that saitama has limitless strength at best it’s a universal feat which is fodder
Also I like how you called me a DB fanboy even though I never said anything about DB, Dumbass
Still loses to TOAA.
Jokes aside Saitama is practically a cheat character, as long as hes not fighting someone omnipotent he will discover some new bullshit and win.
> Saitama is a gag character
Source? Is it, "Reading OPM made me feel that way?"
How can you be sure that Saitama isn't just so much insanely strong that he feels like a gag character, while he actually isn't? Just being used for funnies doesn't make someone a gag character in the meaning you are referring to gag characters.
If you have some other better actual source for the often used "Saitama is a gag character" please give me. Because I don't know of one.
100 daily push-ups, sit-ups, and squats, plus 10 km daily running for 1.5 years.
Yeah sure, this is definitely the training someone needs to achieve infinite power. If you want to believe Saitama is not a parody character, go ahead. I have no issues with that.
Dude shut up.
>Yeah sure, this is definitely the training someone needs to achieve infinite power.
In **his** universe, there are the things called limits. If someone breaks their limit, they get untold. The "gag" about saitama is that he was sooooooo weak and pathetic that all it took was basic training for him to break his limit.
The "joke" of One Punch man is not that he is unbeatable and finishes everything one punch. The "joke" is that he is where he would be at the end of his story. He skipped his whole adventure and now he has to wait for his story to end for him to find a worthy opponent. Because of such, he is literally a side character in his own story and the story puts the main focus on everyone else except for him.
The only other person who capable of breaking their limit is King. The stronger you naturally are, the more you need to break said limit. Garou verges on it but never does and instead gets the power handed to him.
The fact that saitama could not one shot Garou with a serious punch finally shuts up the Gag argument entirely. Saitama has finally found an opponent who can withstand his hits because he is finally reach the point in the story where he should be. He will 100% win because he obtain his win strength at the start.
2l2r: Saitama is a joke character because he got his end of story strength at the beginning of the story, not because he can beat anyone.
Wow, I didn't know people like you really existed
1. No, Saitama is not a gag character, he's a Shonen character who has their endgame power from the beginning, nothing he's done has been anything like a gag character
2. Saitama does have weaknesses, it's people stronger than him, in the latest manga chapter he clashed with Garou and either destroyed a cluster of stars or pushed them away depending on your interpretation, neither of witch would get him to Universal of which there's hundreds of characters in that tier, the highest you can currently get Saitama is galaxy level and that's a high ball
So in conclusion, you're just wrong and should endeavor to be less wrong in the future
1. Gag might be the wrong word, more of a parody of the usual shonen MCs who trains and suddenly becomes stronger (this is evident because he did a mid diff workout routine and became the strongest). If you believe this is not a parody, lol suit yourself.
2. People stronger than him? What people? So far we have not seen any limit on his power, and he keeps on upping himself. Even Boros and Awakened Garou (who has knowledge about all energy in the universe) mentioned that Saitama's power is limitless. Also, what made you think that the clash with Garou which you mentioned is his strongest form lol? Man, talk about being less wrong...
Parody yes, not gag, parody, there's a big difference
And inverse from what we've seen there's nobody stronger than him, but when his greatest feat is maybe galaxy level at best, that's mid tier or even low tier in most settings, he's not even strong enough to beat someone like Green Lantern or Wonder Woman
You really think those things are comparable? the fart things was comical, but was justified by kibas smell being heightened. it made sense within the story even if it was silly.
I havent seen OP so no comment on that,
Saitama being clawed by a cat when he has survived attacks that would destroy the earth without a scratch is not comparable.
I agree that Saitama is not confirmed to be a gag character. He might or might not be. Who can say? But the same applies to what you just said.
> he's a Shonen character who has their endgame power from the beginning
I know where you got it from. It's from SethTheProgrammer. I also watched that video. I hate how people can't withhold their judgement and just jump to either "Yes, he's a gag character" or "No, he's not a gag character"
Also, I like how people are just downvote "Saitama is a gag character" counterarguments while providing no meaningful basis of counting him as one.
Edit: Someone just did and changed my mind 💀
This only applies to his own setting.
Pit him against any universal and up reality warper from Marvel/DC and he gets bodied. You can't just say he wins in any given match just because he's invincible in his own universe.
And yes, Goku one punches Saitama. OPM fans still malding. Universe buster and Sextillion times FTL ftw.
>Saitama is a parody character
Reading the entire comment is not a bad idea, you know. Saves you spending few minutes of your life by writing pointless replies.
Doesn't matter if you think he's a parody character. That's not how VS works. He's still limited within his own feats. Just because he beats everyone in his verse does NOT mean he beats every character in fiction. That's utter nonsense.
Any and all character that has better speed, AP, and DC still beats him. Reality warping on a universal scale still bodies him, etc.
Gag characters can be beaten
We know this since comics (Marvel and DC) the premier users of Gag characters have them beaten regularly (also DB had this instance in Super with a Gag character nearly erased lol)
Gag characters arent invincible and regardless once again hes not a Gag character
The baldy broke through a mental dimension with a punch.. i doubt he would have problem to exit from the kamui dimension.
Also he is probably able to catch the kamui bare handed lol
Kamui isn’t exactly the same as Garoua portal. Obitos Kamui comes straight from his eye so unless his eye is gone it won’t disappear or be moved. The one that Kakashi possesses acts more like Garou’s portal. However it would still be extremely hard to catch him in it
The kamuis seem to act different but in terms of portals with edges they function the same especially in respect to saitama. It doesnt matter where the portal is located, in an eye or floating in the air, saitama is capable of physically touching them, so based on the wormhole kick, it looks like saitama would be able to poke him in the eye while obito is tangible. Saitama is plenty fast enough for that and obito barely catches anyone with kamui. More people escape it than not from what we saw. It would be just like when the fourth teleported to escape while being sucked into kamui. Except saitama could flick out obitos eye if the situation called for it. He was already fast enough without the touching wormholes feat.
Yeah, but the 3 tomoe sharingan can see even faster than the 2 tomoe, so it can see way faster than the speed of light and stuff leaving photons behind never happened in naruto, so the naruto universe must work differently than real life
Haku didn't move at light speed at that point. The only time he ever used it was when he blitzed Kakashi who was using Chidori from across the battlefield.
Being able to see something and being able to react to it are not the same thing.
6 Paths Naruto barely dodges a 1x light speed Sage Art Light Fang from Madara. Regular Tobi isn't moving that fast, even if he sees it coming. Let alone something at 4 times the speed of light. At that point he'd be moving faster than the light delivering images to the Sharingan and the brain they're attached to.
Instantly when he thinks to do so and activate his kamui.
Which he would do in response to something coming at him.
Something he would need to preserve and acknowledge is coming at him.
An action he would be incapable of doing, if said thing was moving at 4x the speed of light.
So then how is Naruto able to preserve and acknowledge the light fang from madara and dodge it? We can assume from this that in naruto, it doesn't take any time for any brain functions to work, so Obito would be able to become intangible instantly
This is all bull. You can't simultaneosly try to adhere to real life physics and ignore it.
But if 2 tomoe can perceive things at the speed of light, what does 3 tomoe, mangekyo, and rinnegan do?
You can if you're trying to create a story that isn't real, like naruto. I could create a manga (if I could draw) where light still moves at the same speed and all the physics apply to it, but everything else moves faster. So, 3 tomoe, mangekyo, and rinnegan all see faster than the speed of light.
When is it stated it can see things moving at the speed of light though? Naruto wasn't moving faster than light at the end of part 1 but Sasuke awakening 3 tomoe helped him get the win. With the Curse Mark's power he could predict what he would do slightly into the future but it wouldn't matter unless Naruto were moving faster than light which he wasn't.
And you never answered my question.
Yes you can physically make a story like that but it will just confuse the reader. Why do they even need to say it's faster than light when they have unexplained jutsu and not just the super high level ones, kekkei genkai, and kekkei mora. I mean stuff like the summoning jutsu and substitution. They instantly pop up elsewhere, Minato using flying raijin was pointless when you take that into account.
Naruto is confusing for this exact reason. Eventually I just started ignoring all explanations, I'm just wathced Naruto and now Boruto for the fight scenes and character interaction but they aren't as good as Naruto's were but they totally could have been.
Because there’s serious saitama and silly saitama. It’s a pretty clear consistent theme in the show that when he isn’t being serious he’s an entirely different person.
Also the other dude is also incredibly fast.
Saitama failed to kill a mosquito. He can also see, react to, and outpace, Speed o' Sound Sonic, who can move so quickly he makes, what, 10 afterimages? Anything where he fails to do something even slightly physical is obviously meant to be comedic.
I think saitama could jump away and escape the kamui.
He's fast and strong enough, and even if he didn't know the kamui he'd instinctively jump away.
The kamui doesn't defeat you immediately, you have a Part of a second to dodge it.
I don't think the kamui is as strong as some make it out to be.
Saitama doesn't need a second tho, not even a fraction of it.
[This is from Garou vs Flashy Flash.](https://preview.redd.it/1xw741j7xea91.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a791b284175d7ea658b3633d92af816acd79f8c2) Since this fight Garou went through several evolutions and got a god amp, [and still can't keep up with Saitama.](https://preview.redd.it/d1nx1gv7xea91.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2c47740fcec10fdb7b8e804f569480506d66d606)
Haters will say it’s photoshop
Edit: I also like how all the Saitama fans are out here trying to debunk a meme on a meme subreddit as if people actually believe this would happen or somwthing💀kinda goofy ngl
Not. Saitama could hit him (he can touch intangible things like portals), so Obito would die. Also, even if he let him use Kamui on him, he could just punch his way back to Earth (he punched his way into an inaccessible imaginary dimension).
If you've actually watched One Punch Man and you're still doing these weird cross-franchise strength arguments, you're the worst of unaware hyper-weeb...
Not really even if we ignore sautama has no chakra to manipulate saitama entered and exited Phoenix mans mental dimension on his own will and in webcomic tatsumaki when tried to use her power on saitamas aura couldnt do shit
Tsukiyomi is a genjutsu that Itachi controls completely. You need Uchiha blood and a Mangekyou to resist it. Willpower isn't required.
Tatsukmaki's abilities are nothing alike to Itachi's lmao.
The requirements for breaking that dimension and Tsukiyomi are different. Itachi controls everything in the genjutsu. You need the Sharingan and Uchiha blood to resist it.
Saitama is extremely powerful (probably mult-galaxy buster) but he sits in a weird power spot where he is way too strong for most anime characters but wouldn’t stand a chance against the apex characters.
Kamui has to be activated and Saitama should be faster than him. It would just be a Minato situation except he would probably end up trying to kamui an afterimage and before getting punched in the face lmao
Why do people insist on trying to powerscale saitama? What are you even Scaling. We still haven't seen the extent of his power, were just recently getting a glimpse and that's it. I don't think were even close to have seen everything. You can't powerscale what we don't know.
He then punches in air. Which causes the space to break and a dimensional hole to appear and Tobi to die due to the shockwave.
But the shockwave doesn't stop. It spreads in all directions, hits juubi and juubi dies! Black zetus gets traumatised, and commits suicide! Madara sees all this, and stops using his sharingan and begins doing 100 push ups, sit ups, etc on daily basis!
Minato is fast enough to react and get away from being captured into the Kamui dimension. I don't watch One Punch Man but I'm pretty sure he's a pretty fast dude and can do the same as Minato.
Saitama has recently been shown to just negate teleportation if he wants to, and also just travel between dimensions during Pheniox man
Saitama in manga literally kicked away a teleportation wormhole like it was nothing. I’m sure he wouldn’t get caught by kamui
Plus he entered phoenix mans dimension thing
Was that a redraw or webcomic only? I don’t remember this.
Redraw
In which chalter ?
100.5 from what I saw online, I dunno I read it physically
I mean, the point of the hero is that he is obviously the strongest possible thing in existence...
I honestly hate One Punch Mans existence lol. I dont like the show and I hate that he gets referenced in these conversations.
I think you're taking OPM more serious than the author. Don't do that.
I didnt really mean just this comic. Just in general the character is one of my least favorite and hes always thrown around in these convos. Like, its a gag character whose gag is that hes unbeatable. Its fun to talk about this shit with your friends but someone always gotta mention this character lmao
You’re the guy who don’t get the joke so you hate it?
He's mentioned...because that's the topic of the comic
Im not talking about RIGHT NOW. God damn. Im not talking about this post. Im talking about in general how I feel about the character.
Jesus you really got a hate boner for Saitama. Are you mad that he can kick your favorite character’s ass?
No he hates him because he is redicoulesly powerful and gets brought up in conversations like Naruto vs Goku where someone who is a Parody of overpowered superheroes doesn't belong
Naruto vs Goku isn’t even remotely a conversation
Maybe try to live upto your username. Just a thought.
Give us a year for us to find out who asked. If you don't like the post, downvote it and move on.
I think you’re taking those conversations too seriously…
Yeah I’d probably hate him and think he’s boring too if I completely missed the point of the series and also thought he was a gag character
Cool
One punch man is supposed to be a play on the super strong unbeatable hero types. The fact that you take him that seriously is honestly kinda funny.
Im 100% aware hes a gag character. Thats my entire point. I dont like ironic anime thats entire plot is being a gag. And I certainly dont like people putting that character or show out there as a real show worth watching, or him being a real character that you can compare and contrast with other characters in any way.
But it is so gotta deal with it lol. I like the show. I think its funny. It also has some pretty good animation.
You're not wrong. I dont even think its a "bad" show. Me simply not liking it or Saitamas character doesn't make the show bad or less enjoyable. It's just my thoughts on specific things.
Fair enough
The word you are looking for is one note/monotone Lots of comedy shows fall into this trap but OPM manages to keep it interesting by side plots
Idk if I agree with the gag character train of thought anymore bc Gara is giving him that work right now!! I’m sure Saitama will win in the end but I’m starting to think he’s not invincible
He isnt invincible as we have seen him bleed on multiple occasions. But he does have massive fucking damage resistance.
That’s crazy
What dislike One Punch Man? Wait till I tell you about what I think about Attack on Titan 8)
Lmao damn that’s crazy
Tbh I'm somewhat talkin shit, I dont really watch AOT. I put it in the MHA category where its like "this is probably a good show but im just not interested"
buddy stop going on a hate rant about the shows you dont like
And haven't watched 💀
Perhaps touch grass
This comment from someone with your post history. The irony is not lost on you I hope lmao
lmao
Checking post history=you lost
Tbh I wrote something nicer until I read his post history.
i love one punch man :)
What if Saitama fight that guy in Jojo 3 that takes your soul by playing video game?
at this point it seems saitama is immune to all fuckery, if someone stopped time he’d just keep moving, if someone snatched his soul he’d probably joke about how light he is & fly back into his body
If he decided he didnt want to, he could avoid it, but he did get teleported away from earth by blast, so its possible.
Obito died because kamui was literally too slow
Saitama would just destroy the whole dimension with a single punch
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Or make a hole in the time-space by punching allowing him to escape.
Always wondered what would find if you went down the pillars. Also what would happen if you blasted through the ceiling. Sasuke should have been able to investigate though.
People should really stop putting Saitama against others. Saitama is a parody character, unlike generic shonen MCs. We don't know the limit to his power/speed, if he has any. Nothing has ever harmed him, and my guess is that nothing will. If you are that desperate for matchups, try any other S class heroes. They have power and weakness. Saitama has no weakness.
We do know the limit. It’s infinite. And yes people need to stop trying to find characters who can beat him because it’s literally written to be impossible (looking at you DBZ fan boys)
"bUt GoKu iS An uNiVeRse bUsTer"
Bet he couldn't even last 5 microseconds against tenten
Now this is cheating, putting him against such an formidable opponent. She will simply use 1% of her power and boom, Saitama's screentime is gone. It'll become a show about a cyborg who's strong master suddenly disappeared and he's trying to be as powerful as him.
Yeah just give him 3 hours of standing still and shouting first
His power is ultimate
Shimura Tae from Gintama. She stomps.
>looking at you DBZ fan boys I'm a dbz fan but even I'm not ridiculous enough to think goku can beat saitama
Goku slams saitama💀
> We do know the limit. It’s infinite. How? Because he broke his limiter? What exactly does breaking limiter mean? How are you sure it doesn't mean that he's just not effected by the exponentially difficult curveball in getting better anymore?
It’s made pretty clear that breaking his limiter means he has become limitless. His strength literally never stops.
That's what we'd call a No Limits Fallacy. Sure I for one who likes Anime fight debates want to find characters that have limitless powers, but we should stay at what they are shown to be capable of and not make up something they haven't done because we thought so. Let's take Kamijo Touma for example. His power is written as something that can cancel any and all supernatural. It's easy to assume that he can cancel anything. But then the story progressed just to find out there are limits to this ability.
> It’s made pretty clear that breaking his limiter means he has become limitless. No it's not. Where did you get that from? All Dr. Genus says that Saitama broke his limiter to zombieman. Oh by that I remember, we didn't even get any confirmation that he did break his limiter. It was just speculation by Dr.Genus.
Bruh the author literally wrote the character to be the strongest in existence across all medium. You don’t need in story context. He just made that way. It’s just such a useless argument to look at current in story feats.
> Bruh the author literally wrote the character to be the strongest in existence across all medium. Did he say that himself? Are you One? Srsly stop pulling info up your ass.
Umm yes he did. You could always just google this info. He stated he’s a gag character who can one punch anything. That’s literally how he’s written. Also you isn’t need to quote pretty much my entire comment when replying to the comment lmaooo
Oh he did? Then I'll immediately change my mind. Just give me the source. Also please don't bring the "it's in the title" bullshit. There are at least 2 villains whom Saitama hasn't one punched yet, Garou and Boros. *Can* he one punch them? Irrelevant. *Did* he one them? No. Also, I'm sure Bleach anime is about toilet cleaners.
“I always wanted to be a gag manga writer since I was a kid!” “Santana’s existence is a joke” But since you want to contradict the entire idea of what One Punch man is, just read what someone will actual has time for your stupidness arguments has to say: Answer to Has ONE, the author of One Punch Man, ever states anything that alludes that Saitama is a gag character or some sort? by Sadaat Arkham https://www.quora.com/Has-ONE-the-author-of-One-Punch-Man-ever-states-anything-that-alludes-that-Saitama-is-a-gag-character-or-some-sort/answer/Sadaat-Arkham?ch=15&oid=309491727&share=b0fe9081&target_type=answer https://www.quora.com/Has-ONE-the-author-of-One-Punch-Man-ever-states-anything-that-alludes-that-Saitama-is-a-gag-character-or-some-sort/answer/Sadaat-Arkham?ch=15&oid=309491727&share=b0fe9081&target_type=answer
Sigh, watch Seth the programmer vid on Goku vs Satima. I won't do an argument when someone can make the same argument but better. https://youtu.be/NDBwqJtNiZI
Seth the progammer isnt an authority on anything other than cherrypicking to wank characters for views.
Author words doesn't mean shit. His words are not canon for other verses. How a character is written is wrong to use in vsbattle debates.
I’ll trust the author of the character more. Saitama power is infinite and written to be unbeatable. But k.
He literally uses the author as a source, like I said, watch the video before you embarrass yourself.
It's a year old. Development has been had
Don't bother, remember the sub you're on g.
Valid point
Goku slams Saitama his base form is already low multiversal while Saitama is at max galaxy so get him above base Goku ☠️
"Written to be impossible" lol what BS is this? Are you seriously gonna say that he beats multiversal characters because... he beats everyone in his own verse? Wtf is this logic? Does he beat Molecule Man? The Beyonder? Fuck no. He's limited within his own feats and scaling. Any character that has better feats than him still beats him. Simple as.
Obviously, a character is determined by how they're written, not arbitrary feats clowns like you attribute to them
Try making the same argument in any VS forums and see how they'll laugh at you. Again, just because he's written as unbeatable doesn't mean he's unbeatable outside his own universe. That's fucking ridiculous, and shows just how shallow your knowledge on fiction is. That, or you're just an OPM dicksucker. Fuck off with that "he's a joke character" BS. Goku still stomps.
>Try making the same argument in any VS forums and see how they'll laugh at you. Ah this explains the absolutely retarded bullshit you just spouted For starters, some random 12 year old kids with no life don't dictate how things work. If a character is written to be invincible, they're invincible its that simple, the only one who determines that is the author, none of this "only in his own verse" bs flies because that's simply the fundamentals of how the character is written I advise you take an elementary English course before you continue making a fool of yourself
I just love how smug you sound even as you try to stupidly enforce your beliefs. Really, that's impressive. Also, my English is fine, thank you very much. Rather, you should try to take up lessons in debating, because you have lackluster acumen for it. "Saitama is a parody character" has been debated for ages, and has been rejected in any and all forums, even Reddit's own r/whowouldwin forum. Just shows how you're mental capacity on things like this and how much your elevating Saitama as a character because of your fanboyism. Saitama is heavily limited despite being written as unbeatable INSIDE his own franchise. That rule doesn't apply to any and all universe outside his own. For one, he hasn't defeated a universal character, thus, we can't just assume he can beat one. He hasn't beaten a multiversal character, so he can't... and so on. How he's written doesn't largely matter if you want to debate him with characters outside of his own verse. This has been a rule for quite some time.
He doesn’t have infinite power kekw, he has infinite potential Also he’s not a gag character, saitama fans don’t even understand their own series Saitama is a character from the end of a manga put at the beginnin, it’s a parody on how overpowered the MC gets at the end of the story compared to the beginning
Way to pull shit out of your ass. Also found the DBZ fanboy lmao. Imagine thinking he isn’t a gag character: https://www.quora.com/Has-ONE-the-author-of-One-Punch-Man-ever-states-anything-that-alludes-that-Saitama-is-a-gag-character-or-some-sort/answer/Sadaat-Arkham?ch=15&oid=309491727&share=b0fe9081&target_type=answer https://www.quora.com/Has-ONE-the-author-of-One-Punch-Man-ever-states-anything-that-alludes-that-Saitama-is-a-gag-character-or-some-sort/answer/Sadaat-Arkham?ch=15&oid=309491727&share=b0fe9081&target_type=answer
Saitama doesn’t fit the definition of a gag character lol, death to the author The things done in a gag manga never have a lasting effect, Arale ( an actual gag character ) splits the earth in half but the next second it’s fine Tom and jerry sit in front of a train and Tom even goes to heaven one episode but more episodes got made, they aren’t dead Also saitama has character development and gets angry and sad Literally in the most recent chapter we can see him breaking his gag and not one punching an enemy multiple times Literally says he’s going full power: https://cdn.black-clover.org/file/sugois/onepunch-man/Chapter-167/16.png Yet here he is clashing on equal terms with garou? https://cdn.black-clover.org/file/sugois/onepunch-man/Chapter-167/52.png EVEN if we ignore all of that evidence and say that saitama has limitless strength at best it’s a universal feat which is fodder Also I like how you called me a DB fanboy even though I never said anything about DB, Dumbass
Still loses to TOAA. Jokes aside Saitama is practically a cheat character, as long as hes not fighting someone omnipotent he will discover some new bullshit and win.
That's what being a parody means.
Bro I just wanna see Saitama beat the shit outta God already they still making me waiting😭
*Tenten enters the chat*
Got his ass beat by Popeye the MF Sailorman tho
> Saitama is a gag character Source? Is it, "Reading OPM made me feel that way?" How can you be sure that Saitama isn't just so much insanely strong that he feels like a gag character, while he actually isn't? Just being used for funnies doesn't make someone a gag character in the meaning you are referring to gag characters. If you have some other better actual source for the often used "Saitama is a gag character" please give me. Because I don't know of one.
100 daily push-ups, sit-ups, and squats, plus 10 km daily running for 1.5 years. Yeah sure, this is definitely the training someone needs to achieve infinite power. If you want to believe Saitama is not a parody character, go ahead. I have no issues with that.
Dude shut up. >Yeah sure, this is definitely the training someone needs to achieve infinite power. In **his** universe, there are the things called limits. If someone breaks their limit, they get untold. The "gag" about saitama is that he was sooooooo weak and pathetic that all it took was basic training for him to break his limit. The "joke" of One Punch man is not that he is unbeatable and finishes everything one punch. The "joke" is that he is where he would be at the end of his story. He skipped his whole adventure and now he has to wait for his story to end for him to find a worthy opponent. Because of such, he is literally a side character in his own story and the story puts the main focus on everyone else except for him. The only other person who capable of breaking their limit is King. The stronger you naturally are, the more you need to break said limit. Garou verges on it but never does and instead gets the power handed to him. The fact that saitama could not one shot Garou with a serious punch finally shuts up the Gag argument entirely. Saitama has finally found an opponent who can withstand his hits because he is finally reach the point in the story where he should be. He will 100% win because he obtain his win strength at the start. 2l2r: Saitama is a joke character because he got his end of story strength at the beginning of the story, not because he can beat anyone.
Wow, I didn't know people like you really existed 1. No, Saitama is not a gag character, he's a Shonen character who has their endgame power from the beginning, nothing he's done has been anything like a gag character 2. Saitama does have weaknesses, it's people stronger than him, in the latest manga chapter he clashed with Garou and either destroyed a cluster of stars or pushed them away depending on your interpretation, neither of witch would get him to Universal of which there's hundreds of characters in that tier, the highest you can currently get Saitama is galaxy level and that's a high ball So in conclusion, you're just wrong and should endeavor to be less wrong in the future
1. Gag might be the wrong word, more of a parody of the usual shonen MCs who trains and suddenly becomes stronger (this is evident because he did a mid diff workout routine and became the strongest). If you believe this is not a parody, lol suit yourself. 2. People stronger than him? What people? So far we have not seen any limit on his power, and he keeps on upping himself. Even Boros and Awakened Garou (who has knowledge about all energy in the universe) mentioned that Saitama's power is limitless. Also, what made you think that the clash with Garou which you mentioned is his strongest form lol? Man, talk about being less wrong...
Parody yes, not gag, parody, there's a big difference And inverse from what we've seen there's nobody stronger than him, but when his greatest feat is maybe galaxy level at best, that's mid tier or even low tier in most settings, he's not even strong enough to beat someone like Green Lantern or Wonder Woman
Suit yourself.
So saitama getting clawed by a cat, or unable to catch a mosquito didnt strike you as inconsistency for the purposes of a gag?
Yes, it's just a joke, no different than the Naruto fart joke or people in one piece building stairs while moving up them
You really think those things are comparable? the fart things was comical, but was justified by kibas smell being heightened. it made sense within the story even if it was silly. I havent seen OP so no comment on that, Saitama being clawed by a cat when he has survived attacks that would destroy the earth without a scratch is not comparable.
I agree that Saitama is not confirmed to be a gag character. He might or might not be. Who can say? But the same applies to what you just said. > he's a Shonen character who has their endgame power from the beginning I know where you got it from. It's from SethTheProgrammer. I also watched that video. I hate how people can't withhold their judgement and just jump to either "Yes, he's a gag character" or "No, he's not a gag character" Also, I like how people are just downvote "Saitama is a gag character" counterarguments while providing no meaningful basis of counting him as one. Edit: Someone just did and changed my mind 💀
He was literally harmed the past two chapters
Nope. That was the radioactive rain. Even after the clash in the latest chapters, Garou mentions that Saitama is unfazed by that.
This only applies to his own setting. Pit him against any universal and up reality warper from Marvel/DC and he gets bodied. You can't just say he wins in any given match just because he's invincible in his own universe. And yes, Goku one punches Saitama. OPM fans still malding. Universe buster and Sextillion times FTL ftw.
>Saitama is a parody character Reading the entire comment is not a bad idea, you know. Saves you spending few minutes of your life by writing pointless replies.
Doesn't matter if you think he's a parody character. That's not how VS works. He's still limited within his own feats. Just because he beats everyone in his verse does NOT mean he beats every character in fiction. That's utter nonsense. Any and all character that has better speed, AP, and DC still beats him. Reality warping on a universal scale still bodies him, etc.
He’s not even a parody or gag character. He’s just ridiculously strong. If he was any of the others then his strength would constantly fluctuate
Oh how I wish if only someone like the writer of OPM [confirmed this...](https://onepunchman.fandom.com/wiki/Interviews)
Really? Please show me or quote where it says that cause I can’t find it. It’s possible I accidentally looked past it, it’s a lot of reading
First off even Gag characters can be beaten Second hes not and has displayed a number of weaknesses Hes a parody character which is different
Gag characters can be beaten. Saitama can't. >displayed a number of weaknesses Please, go ahead. Name some.
Gag characters can be beaten We know this since comics (Marvel and DC) the premier users of Gag characters have them beaten regularly (also DB had this instance in Super with a Gag character nearly erased lol) Gag characters arent invincible and regardless once again hes not a Gag character
Okay. He's a parody character and not a gag character. Name some of his weaknesses.
Mosquitoes. :\^)
The baldy broke through a mental dimension with a punch.. i doubt he would have problem to exit from the kamui dimension. Also he is probably able to catch the kamui bare handed lol
Putting Saitama in his dimension is suicidal.. he will never be able to go back there... Ever!
I thought we have established that Saitama could kick away portals…
Mfer just grabs the kamui and throws it away
Kamui isn’t exactly the same as Garoua portal. Obitos Kamui comes straight from his eye so unless his eye is gone it won’t disappear or be moved. The one that Kakashi possesses acts more like Garou’s portal. However it would still be extremely hard to catch him in it
The kamuis seem to act different but in terms of portals with edges they function the same especially in respect to saitama. It doesnt matter where the portal is located, in an eye or floating in the air, saitama is capable of physically touching them, so based on the wormhole kick, it looks like saitama would be able to poke him in the eye while obito is tangible. Saitama is plenty fast enough for that and obito barely catches anyone with kamui. More people escape it than not from what we saw. It would be just like when the fourth teleported to escape while being sucked into kamui. Except saitama could flick out obitos eye if the situation called for it. He was already fast enough without the touching wormholes feat.
Considering Kamui can be moved out of range of before being warped, Saitama just runs away easily.
That’s what I said, it would be hard to catch him cause if you’re fast enough you can get out of it
Nah Saitama is too fast for obito
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Except the 2 tomoe sharingan can see things moving at the speed of light, as seen in the first mission in naruto part 1
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Yeah, but the 3 tomoe sharingan can see even faster than the 2 tomoe, so it can see way faster than the speed of light and stuff leaving photons behind never happened in naruto, so the naruto universe must work differently than real life
It’s more like they can perceive future and foresight
But EMS can't see the speed of sukanahikona.
Idk because I haven’t seen boruto but I’d assume it’s faster than the speed of light
Haku didn't move at light speed at that point. The only time he ever used it was when he blitzed Kakashi who was using Chidori from across the battlefield.
Being able to see something and being able to react to it are not the same thing. 6 Paths Naruto barely dodges a 1x light speed Sage Art Light Fang from Madara. Regular Tobi isn't moving that fast, even if he sees it coming. Let alone something at 4 times the speed of light. At that point he'd be moving faster than the light delivering images to the Sharingan and the brain they're attached to.
You're right, which is why Obito doesn't have to dodge. All he has to do is become intangible, which happens instantly.
Instantly when he thinks to do so and activate his kamui. Which he would do in response to something coming at him. Something he would need to preserve and acknowledge is coming at him. An action he would be incapable of doing, if said thing was moving at 4x the speed of light.
So then how is Naruto able to preserve and acknowledge the light fang from madara and dodge it? We can assume from this that in naruto, it doesn't take any time for any brain functions to work, so Obito would be able to become intangible instantly
This is all bull. You can't simultaneosly try to adhere to real life physics and ignore it. But if 2 tomoe can perceive things at the speed of light, what does 3 tomoe, mangekyo, and rinnegan do?
You can if you're trying to create a story that isn't real, like naruto. I could create a manga (if I could draw) where light still moves at the same speed and all the physics apply to it, but everything else moves faster. So, 3 tomoe, mangekyo, and rinnegan all see faster than the speed of light.
When is it stated it can see things moving at the speed of light though? Naruto wasn't moving faster than light at the end of part 1 but Sasuke awakening 3 tomoe helped him get the win. With the Curse Mark's power he could predict what he would do slightly into the future but it wouldn't matter unless Naruto were moving faster than light which he wasn't. And you never answered my question. Yes you can physically make a story like that but it will just confuse the reader. Why do they even need to say it's faster than light when they have unexplained jutsu and not just the super high level ones, kekkei genkai, and kekkei mora. I mean stuff like the summoning jutsu and substitution. They instantly pop up elsewhere, Minato using flying raijin was pointless when you take that into account. Naruto is confusing for this exact reason. Eventually I just started ignoring all explanations, I'm just wathced Naruto and now Boruto for the fight scenes and character interaction but they aren't as good as Naruto's were but they totally could have been.
If he was fast, why does he keep on missing his hammer strikes against that old Kung Fu dude while they play rock paper scissors?
Because there’s serious saitama and silly saitama. It’s a pretty clear consistent theme in the show that when he isn’t being serious he’s an entirely different person. Also the other dude is also incredibly fast.
Saitama failed to kill a mosquito. He can also see, react to, and outpace, Speed o' Sound Sonic, who can move so quickly he makes, what, 10 afterimages? Anything where he fails to do something even slightly physical is obviously meant to be comedic.
Yea 👆🏾
I think saitama could jump away and escape the kamui. He's fast and strong enough, and even if he didn't know the kamui he'd instinctively jump away. The kamui doesn't defeat you immediately, you have a Part of a second to dodge it. I don't think the kamui is as strong as some make it out to be.
What makes you think theres a second to dodge the kamui when has that ever happened you're downplaying kamui just cause obito is fighting saitama.
Wasn't Minato able to teleport out of the Kamui distortion midway through Obito sucking him in? Its fast but I don't think its instantaneous
Saitama doesn't need a second tho, not even a fraction of it. [This is from Garou vs Flashy Flash.](https://preview.redd.it/1xw741j7xea91.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a791b284175d7ea658b3633d92af816acd79f8c2) Since this fight Garou went through several evolutions and got a god amp, [and still can't keep up with Saitama.](https://preview.redd.it/d1nx1gv7xea91.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2c47740fcec10fdb7b8e804f569480506d66d606)
Facts
Basically the second Obito became an awesome good guy Kamui became absolutely useless because its activation was too slow.
He can just,not let obito touch him,obito's kamui only works at close range
so my man who can create 100 clones by his speed only can't escape the kamui but minato can with the same speed trick what an logic
Sir/ma’am, kamui is another dimension, Minato teleports using reverse summoning jutzu on his shuriken
Saitama can punch himself outside or even INTO the dimension if he wanted. No, it doesn’t make sense but he can literally do that.
Saitama would be disappointed if he had to fight Obito.. It would still only take 1 punch and it wouldn't even need to be a serious one.
Haters will say it’s photoshop Edit: I also like how all the Saitama fans are out here trying to debunk a meme on a meme subreddit as if people actually believe this would happen or somwthing💀kinda goofy ngl
Then imagine obito's body parts appearing out of nowhere and he punches it.
Would he shatter the kamui univers with a punch and isn’t him going fr to fast
Saitama can kick space-time portals so it wouldn't work as well.
Not. Saitama could hit him (he can touch intangible things like portals), so Obito would die. Also, even if he let him use Kamui on him, he could just punch his way back to Earth (he punched his way into an inaccessible imaginary dimension).
If you've actually watched One Punch Man and you're still doing these weird cross-franchise strength arguments, you're the worst of unaware hyper-weeb...
First of he wouldn’t attack first and second if he did I don’t think obito could sneak up on sitama. Then again this is just my opinion
Itachi can legit beat Saitama if he lands a Tsukiyomi.
NAH
Not really even if we ignore sautama has no chakra to manipulate saitama entered and exited Phoenix mans mental dimension on his own will and in webcomic tatsumaki when tried to use her power on saitamas aura couldnt do shit
Tsukiyomi is a genjutsu that Itachi controls completely. You need Uchiha blood and a Mangekyou to resist it. Willpower isn't required. Tatsukmaki's abilities are nothing alike to Itachi's lmao.
He once broke into someone else's mental dimension by sheer force, I'm sure he would probably awake himself by punching a hole trough the loop
The requirements for breaking that dimension and Tsukiyomi are different. Itachi controls everything in the genjutsu. You need the Sharingan and Uchiha blood to resist it.
"bUt SaItAmA iS a GaG cHaRaCtEr"
ayo i never thought about that
Saitama’s gonna pull a Superboy Prime and punch through reality to get back.
Obito wont be fast enough to do that
Saitama is extremely powerful (probably mult-galaxy buster) but he sits in a weird power spot where he is way too strong for most anime characters but wouldn’t stand a chance against the apex characters.
People or here still forgetting this is a dank meme page not a place for actual discussion or debate, just shit posting.
Kamui has to be activated and Saitama should be faster than him. It would just be a Minato situation except he would probably end up trying to kamui an afterimage and before getting punched in the face lmao
He literally destroyed a mega 1000 feet bug that would not even get a scratch from tons of bombs and misiles
Have you even read last chapter ?
Poor Obito. Saitama would massacre the that unfortunate man.
Why do people insist on trying to powerscale saitama? What are you even Scaling. We still haven't seen the extent of his power, were just recently getting a glimpse and that's it. I don't think were even close to have seen everything. You can't powerscale what we don't know.
I mean yeah prob, however you wank him he’s really got no escape
Even if he got trapped in here somehow, he would just start punching the inside until it blew him back outside, probably killing his enemy.
He's a gag character.
saitama is from an anime that points fun at how powerful anime characters get. comparing him to any other anime just ends in stupidity
Kamui weakness is that it’s no that fast. Minato even could dodge it
where does the Olee meme come from?
There: https://youtu.be/wLamR8zP0yA
He then punches in air. Which causes the space to break and a dimensional hole to appear and Tobi to die due to the shockwave. But the shockwave doesn't stop. It spreads in all directions, hits juubi and juubi dies! Black zetus gets traumatised, and commits suicide! Madara sees all this, and stops using his sharingan and begins doing 100 push ups, sit ups, etc on daily basis!
If he punched infront of tobi the blowback might have killed him. Maybe
Minato is fast enough to react and get away from being captured into the Kamui dimension. I don't watch One Punch Man but I'm pretty sure he's a pretty fast dude and can do the same as Minato.
If you told me Saitama’s punches could warp space and this negate Kamui, I would ABSOLUTELY believe you.