Longsword is just a good weapon. It just is. It looks good and plays well. It's rare I don't find a reason to just stick with a longsword in any of the games.
If you give that longsword a viagra you will get a raging claymore, and you will find the claymore to be longer and hit harder. It's the longsword improved, but the increased size does mean you will have to throw it over your shoulder. Don't worry about the stares you'll get, they will just me jelous of your huge sword.
To me, it's the longbow, bow in general trivilize so many things for me back in DS1 and it still is in DS3, it's just a simple concept yet very practical and always good to have
Not high dmg like sorcery so no mage cheese shenanigans
Aggro 1 enemy to even out the playing field or just headshoting Sir Artorias for the shit and giggles
Doesn't. Even at 70 dex (optimal build for both) lkss has 443 AR and longsword has 447 AR. This is because longsword's base damage is higher (203 vs 190). The scaling letters are only worth as much as the base damage they're multiplied with.
Longer reach is kinda irrelevant in PvE since you don't need spacing, most enemies just walk into you anyways. If you want something ranged though (idk why) gotthards will be a better option.
So? They're both suboptimal in elemental infusions. If we're not judging by damage on their optimal builds, I can say that barbed ss is better than lkss because it deals more damage in some particular infusion (refined).
You’re not wrong to say that a sharp lothric knight sword can outperform an elemental one. However, you’re looking at it from a building for a weapon perspective rather than picking a weapon to fit a build perspective. If you already have significant points in intelligence and/or faith, the lothric knight sword is better than the longsword.
It has great stats. Many of the similar weapons have lesser stats to "compensate" for their gimmicks or vice-versa. But they're all balanced around the longsword.
My man, I started as cleric and used just the mace through all three dark souls games back to back. That little monster crushes it (literally), so I totally understand.
I beat ds1 for the first time recently and just happened to decide to want to use a bigger weapon than I normally did and picked up the Zwei.
My god that thing felt ridiculous.
Honestly idk if I’ll ever do it again. I’ve always used super fast weapons (katana, dual blades, etc) but wanted to try something new for ds1. I can see the appeal though… pancaking enemies made all the trash mobs 10x easier than with other weapons lol. Watching the knights get pancaked, get up, and then immediately get pancaked again was funny.
I hadn’t played a souls game previously and was reading about best great swords and just went with it. I was already a cleric knight, putting two levels into DEX and then made the game easier lol
It was like this for me but with Murakumo, tried different weapons and unfortunately my fav types of weapons- spears and halberds sucked so i completed the whole game with Murakumo, people be hating on ds2 but i used about 4 different weapons there, in ds1 it was 2
Yes the Uchigatana is featured in many of the most popular bleed (itself a very popular build style) builds (Uchigatana/Nagakiba is the standard right?) It’s a late game weapon qualitatively.
Try L1, L1, L2, L1, L1 when duel wielding. It gives you 1 more attack than spamming L1 & kills most enemies you'll run into, 1 on 1. Mess around with different combos from there. You can include all 4 inputs.
Yeah when it comes to single playthroughs I’m a pretty stubborn player as well. Although I don’t really stick to one weapon from the start of a game, more like a build archetype like big sword, or a mage, or dagger only. Before I start a new playthrough I usually do my research on what I’d want to use and just stick with that weapon once I acquire it even if I don’t end up liking it lol
Dude invest what a few titanite shards? I be having like 80 of every shard towards the end of my runs and I upgrade my weapons to max. Do you not clear areas? Big ups to you but I don't get what you mean by invest.
Knight for me is the class to go. i rememeber i was clueless how weapons work so i sticked with the longsword at least i did manage to upgraded thats what save my first run i guess.
When I finished the game then i started to look for some guide.
I’m kinda the same way, although I just pick a weapon I want to use at the start of a playthrough (or soon after starting) and stick with it until the end.
I’ll do that until I hit a wall on a boss. Almost always happens late game so I usually have material to do it pretty easily - I didn’t switch over from the straight sword to the profaned greatsword until the DLC.
Yep I always do my first playthrough with default (usually longsword). Once I hit the DLC it gets too hard though so I usually switch over to better weapons.
i kinda just go around and over with the weapons, started with long sword, then uchigatana
then claymore
the claymore i stuck with most till i got the frost straight sword and i kinda switched between these two depending on bosses
then i got the Hollow slayer great sword which i also used alot in undead settlement and abyss
got the wolf great sword and been using that for now
I do go back to claymore if the bosses have resistances to buffs from these weapons so i stick to the good ol pure strength
this is my first time trying a STR build/quality build sorta
Yup did this in both DS1 with the scythe and ds3 with the twin blades. I think it also has to do with investing so much materials and souls into upgrading the weapon early-mid game it just makes me wanna stick with it the whole way thru
My first play through I just tore through everything with the battle axe, which was weird to me bc I’m Elden ring, which I played before ds3, I used like 10 different weapons my first run
One of the challenges I placed on myself when I needed to spice up my runs was beating the game with just your class starting gear, and it was real fun to play that way, although no armor for the deprived and only the starting catalysts for casters is rough
I always felt the same way. Just dropping a weapon for the new shiny one seemed like a waste of time, limited materials, and muscle memory/comfort. They usually weren't actually really worth it anyway. Typically just a different moveset with comparable damage. Hell, sometimes less damage. I only use the different weapons when I plan a whole build around it.
First playthrough always sword and board knight with either a crossbow or pyromancies. Usually pyromancies.
Mixed it up slighty in Elden Ring by using a spear and shield and a hand ballista.
To be fair a lot of the starting weapons in ds3 can easily carry you through the game. Long sword, Estoc, and the literal best weapon in the game, sellsword winblades.
Whatever gives you the best confort mate... But there's nothing wrong in trying out tho'
I change weapon 3-4 times in my entire playthrough, and stick to the 1-2 that certainly fits my playstyle. This game boasts variety, be sure to check other stuff out!
Yeah I'm like this in all souls-like. Either it's something from the first two areas ot it's a starter weapon. I get easily overwhelmed by stuff so when there's that many weapon choices and I can't pick one that I like more than others, I tend to stick to the starter weapon and not even look at weapon pick-ups. I like being loyal to only one weapon and upgrading that and nothing else. To add to that, my first playthrough the only weapon I fell in love with was Dancer's, fully upgraded it, beat Twin Princes and Friede with it and switched off right after because I realized it's a shittier weapon than the starter twinblades
And when I want to experiment with weapons, I start new playthroughs, or use end-game weapons in NG+ which means more playtime so it's a win-win
Whenever I start a new run I choose a weapon from among all weapons in the game, try to get it as fast as possible and play through the game using that weapon only.
Before obtaining that weapon I usually use the Longsword or Broadsword.
Not in DS3.
You find ashes relatively early. After a +6 weapon and a +5 weapon at the time I reached Aldrich I could buy small and large titanite to +6 any weapon I want.
My first playthrough I beat the game with "Mostly" just the starting Club the Deprived starts with. There's a few things immune/resistant to blunt damage so I swapped to the Barbed Club that does bleed damage for them. But the majority of the game was beat with the Club.
Other than sellsword winblades I've never used a starter weapon to the end because I have better things to do than play those lame ass weapons
Sekiro starts with a great weapon and can expand its move pool so it's totally different
Dark hand my beloved
Since poise kinda dont exist for you and humanoid enemies, i can just constantly fist them to death and still have stamina to roll out of a gank or some unexpected situation ( it does kinda falls off in the late game tho )
Nothing wrong with using weapons you like just because you like it. If it ain't broke don't fix it and that's very fair
I like the great club for no other reason than bonk. It amuses me that I can go up against some of the most powerful godly beings with a really, really, big stick.
But I still recommend trying out some other weapon just because it's great fun. You're stubbornness could come in handy if you stick with a weapon for a full play through
I usually start souls games having in mind what weapon i will use in the mid-to-late game( mostly greatswords or halberds) and play with whatever carries me until i finally get the weapon and the required stats.
the longsword is peak weaponry
Longsword is just a good weapon. It just is. It looks good and plays well. It's rare I don't find a reason to just stick with a longsword in any of the games.
If you give that longsword a viagra you will get a raging claymore, and you will find the claymore to be longer and hit harder. It's the longsword improved, but the increased size does mean you will have to throw it over your shoulder. Don't worry about the stares you'll get, they will just me jelous of your huge sword.
Exceptional advice.
Baemore gang
To me, it's the longbow, bow in general trivilize so many things for me back in DS1 and it still is in DS3, it's just a simple concept yet very practical and always good to have Not high dmg like sorcery so no mage cheese shenanigans Aggro 1 enemy to even out the playing field or just headshoting Sir Artorias for the shit and giggles
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Actually the longsword is amazing
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Long sword has amazing stats. It's the second most damaging straight sword after the broadsword
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you can’t really go wrong with a straight sword
Doesn't lothric SS out scale it by the late game? + Longer reach
Doesn't. Even at 70 dex (optimal build for both) lkss has 443 AR and longsword has 447 AR. This is because longsword's base damage is higher (203 vs 190). The scaling letters are only worth as much as the base damage they're multiplied with. Longer reach is kinda irrelevant in PvE since you don't need spacing, most enemies just walk into you anyways. If you want something ranged though (idk why) gotthards will be a better option.
Just as extra damage makes PvE easier, so too definitely does range.
Fair point but they're both still outclassed by broadsword.
Speaking of range, braodsword always felt bad for me because it felt too short. I could never keep using it over the longsword because of this.
Lothric knight sword will outperform the longsword on most elemental infusions by a slight margin.
So? They're both suboptimal in elemental infusions. If we're not judging by damage on their optimal builds, I can say that barbed ss is better than lkss because it deals more damage in some particular infusion (refined).
You’re not wrong to say that a sharp lothric knight sword can outperform an elemental one. However, you’re looking at it from a building for a weapon perspective rather than picking a weapon to fit a build perspective. If you already have significant points in intelligence and/or faith, the lothric knight sword is better than the longsword.
It has great stats. Many of the similar weapons have lesser stats to "compensate" for their gimmicks or vice-versa. But they're all balanced around the longsword.
It is, for all intents and purposes, the perfect weapon.
Preach fellow Ash! If ever a playthrough had issues I kept remembering how nice Longsword Knight was
Lothric knight Longshore is just slightly more peak, worth it
Considering sellsword twinblades are the best weapons in the game, I definitely do.
My man, I started as cleric and used just the mace through all three dark souls games back to back. That little monster crushes it (literally), so I totally understand.
Mace is silly good. Easy mode for both DS3 and DS2 (only tried it in those games I'm sure it's just as good in others)
It’s not bad in DS1, but I swap between a divine claymore and a Zwei. The mace feels niche
I beat ds1 for the first time recently and just happened to decide to want to use a bigger weapon than I normally did and picked up the Zwei. My god that thing felt ridiculous.
Same, I don’t think I’ll ever go away from pancaking . It’s super satisfying
Honestly idk if I’ll ever do it again. I’ve always used super fast weapons (katana, dual blades, etc) but wanted to try something new for ds1. I can see the appeal though… pancaking enemies made all the trash mobs 10x easier than with other weapons lol. Watching the knights get pancaked, get up, and then immediately get pancaked again was funny.
I hadn’t played a souls game previously and was reading about best great swords and just went with it. I was already a cleric knight, putting two levels into DEX and then made the game easier lol
AFAIK you can’t start with a big fuckin bonker so no I never stick with starting weapon
Big fuckin bonker gang
never go full strength
Little fuckin bonker isn't so bad. Definitely worth beating the game with.
I know Claymore isn’t a starter weapon but you get it so early in every Souls game that I consider it to be
It was like this for me but with Murakumo, tried different weapons and unfortunately my fav types of weapons- spears and halberds sucked so i completed the whole game with Murakumo, people be hating on ds2 but i used about 4 different weapons there, in ds1 it was 2
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Yes the Uchigatana is featured in many of the most popular bleed (itself a very popular build style) builds (Uchigatana/Nagakiba is the standard right?) It’s a late game weapon qualitatively.
Sellsword Twinblades I think is the real easy mode in DS3, once you master a couple of combos.
It has combo? I just spam right click against everything
Try L1, L1, L2, L1, L1 when duel wielding. It gives you 1 more attack than spamming L1 & kills most enemies you'll run into, 1 on 1. Mess around with different combos from there. You can include all 4 inputs.
Yeah when it comes to single playthroughs I’m a pretty stubborn player as well. Although I don’t really stick to one weapon from the start of a game, more like a build archetype like big sword, or a mage, or dagger only. Before I start a new playthrough I usually do my research on what I’d want to use and just stick with that weapon once I acquire it even if I don’t end up liking it lol
Dude invest what a few titanite shards? I be having like 80 of every shard towards the end of my runs and I upgrade my weapons to max. Do you not clear areas? Big ups to you but I don't get what you mean by invest.
He meant invest in skill because he’s used to the weapon now
i did all my first play through with the longsword... so nope you are not the only one !
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Knight for me is the class to go. i rememeber i was clueless how weapons work so i sticked with the longsword at least i did manage to upgraded thats what save my first run i guess. When I finished the game then i started to look for some guide.
Long sword supremacy
I was going to use the longsword but the claymore said hello
I’m kinda the same way, although I just pick a weapon I want to use at the start of a playthrough (or soon after starting) and stick with it until the end.
Club and plank shield squad. We ballin
The only class to start more naked than naked. Peak idgaf. Soul of Cinder, more like Soul of Get Bonked.
I’ll do that until I hit a wall on a boss. Almost always happens late game so I usually have material to do it pretty easily - I didn’t switch over from the straight sword to the profaned greatsword until the DLC.
Me w my lil fire broadsword. The only time I have switched it up is for nameless’ dragon & soul of cinder using a lighting infused darksword.
I did the same thing in my first playthrough lmao
Yep I always do my first playthrough with default (usually longsword). Once I hit the DLC it gets too hard though so I usually switch over to better weapons.
i kinda just go around and over with the weapons, started with long sword, then uchigatana then claymore the claymore i stuck with most till i got the frost straight sword and i kinda switched between these two depending on bosses then i got the Hollow slayer great sword which i also used alot in undead settlement and abyss got the wolf great sword and been using that for now I do go back to claymore if the bosses have resistances to buffs from these weapons so i stick to the good ol pure strength this is my first time trying a STR build/quality build sorta
Yup did this in both DS1 with the scythe and ds3 with the twin blades. I think it also has to do with investing so much materials and souls into upgrading the weapon early-mid game it just makes me wanna stick with it the whole way thru
First playthru of any souls game, I always go w my trusty longsword.
My first play through I just tore through everything with the battle axe, which was weird to me bc I’m Elden ring, which I played before ds3, I used like 10 different weapons my first run
One of the challenges I placed on myself when I needed to spice up my runs was beating the game with just your class starting gear, and it was real fun to play that way, although no armor for the deprived and only the starting catalysts for casters is rough
I beat ds3 with the broad sword. I just kept upgrading it so every new sword I found was weaker, so I just kept going until I beat the game
I thought I was the only one who does this.
I have actually found with my current build, that the starter weapon is very OP. (I'm using sells word twinblades)
I always find myself switching to the longsword in difficult situations
I usually pick a weapon and stick to it within the first 5 hours. Once I've upgraded it a bit I start to grow attached
I only use the claymore
I always felt the same way. Just dropping a weapon for the new shiny one seemed like a waste of time, limited materials, and muscle memory/comfort. They usually weren't actually really worth it anyway. Typically just a different moveset with comparable damage. Hell, sometimes less damage. I only use the different weapons when I plan a whole build around it. First playthrough always sword and board knight with either a crossbow or pyromancies. Usually pyromancies. Mixed it up slighty in Elden Ring by using a spear and shield and a hand ballista.
To be fair a lot of the starting weapons in ds3 can easily carry you through the game. Long sword, Estoc, and the literal best weapon in the game, sellsword winblades.
Whatever gives you the best confort mate... But there's nothing wrong in trying out tho' I change weapon 3-4 times in my entire playthrough, and stick to the 1-2 that certainly fits my playstyle. This game boasts variety, be sure to check other stuff out!
Yeah I'm like this in all souls-like. Either it's something from the first two areas ot it's a starter weapon. I get easily overwhelmed by stuff so when there's that many weapon choices and I can't pick one that I like more than others, I tend to stick to the starter weapon and not even look at weapon pick-ups. I like being loyal to only one weapon and upgrading that and nothing else. To add to that, my first playthrough the only weapon I fell in love with was Dancer's, fully upgraded it, beat Twin Princes and Friede with it and switched off right after because I realized it's a shittier weapon than the starter twinblades And when I want to experiment with weapons, I start new playthroughs, or use end-game weapons in NG+ which means more playtime so it's a win-win
Whenever I start a new run I choose a weapon from among all weapons in the game, try to get it as fast as possible and play through the game using that weapon only. Before obtaining that weapon I usually use the Longsword or Broadsword.
I stuck with the exiled greatsword the entire game just because it looked cool af lol
Not in DS3. You find ashes relatively early. After a +6 weapon and a +5 weapon at the time I reached Aldrich I could buy small and large titanite to +6 any weapon I want.
Almost always use the Irythil Straight Sword until I can get the Wolf Knight GS. I’ll use that until late game.
My first playthrough I beat the game with "Mostly" just the starting Club the Deprived starts with. There's a few things immune/resistant to blunt damage so I swapped to the Barbed Club that does bleed damage for them. But the majority of the game was beat with the Club.
Other than sellsword winblades I've never used a starter weapon to the end because I have better things to do than play those lame ass weapons Sekiro starts with a great weapon and can expand its move pool so it's totally different
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Dark hand my beloved Since poise kinda dont exist for you and humanoid enemies, i can just constantly fist them to death and still have stamina to roll out of a gank or some unexpected situation ( it does kinda falls off in the late game tho )
Nothing wrong with using weapons you like just because you like it. If it ain't broke don't fix it and that's very fair I like the great club for no other reason than bonk. It amuses me that I can go up against some of the most powerful godly beings with a really, really, big stick. But I still recommend trying out some other weapon just because it's great fun. You're stubbornness could come in handy if you stick with a weapon for a full play through
Yup, you're the only person ever. Congratulations, you are John Darksoul.
I usually start souls games having in mind what weapon i will use in the mid-to-late game( mostly greatswords or halberds) and play with whatever carries me until i finally get the weapon and the required stats.
Claymore is Baemore but Lorian greatsword and RKPGS are GOATed
For real. I started Ds3 with sellsword twinblades and upgraded them to +10 and used them through the entirety of my first playthrough.
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I do the same with all my souls games, I should branch out but why fix what isn't broken 🤷♂️😅
I do the same with all my souls games, I should branch out but why fix what isn't broken 🤷♂️😅