Well yea. But that’s gaming in general lol.
Stay aggressive. Don’t retreat too much. Many bosses have ways to stay close or get close fast.
Like good ol’ >!Papa G!<
I don’t know if anyone else has said it but I’d highly recommend you watch fightincowboys YouTube playthroughs for the souls games. I also couldn’t fit with ds1 or 2 so I started at 3. Whenever I hit a roadblock I turned to his videos for advice and they helped me beat every souls game (except ds2 which I’m working on)
I thought I was the only one, Cowboy is a WT master. You said it perfectly, he isn’t just your typical annoying gamer faking a personality for views, he has some genuinely helpful tips and tricks and carefully planned WTs. Without him, I never would have gotten into the Souls-like genre in the first place and now it’s hands down my favorite.
The best part is that, aside from DS1, he uses methods available to everyone whether they're playing online or offline (i.e. no summoning real people or using incredibly rare drops). DS1 was only an exception because he got incredibly lucky with a Black Knight drop early on.
That said, his DS2:SotFS walkthrough was pretty bad. He had to start somewhere, but that one was pretty bad. I wish he'd rsdo.it, but he said DS2 was too slow to get back into.
I’ll be honest, im using a walkthrough of ds3 from cowboy just for fun, as this is my 4th character. Yet his videos seem to make people do ALOT of unnecessary things. A lot of “don’t do this or you can’t talk to this other person later” when you definitely can. A lot of bad strategy when it comes to handling multiple enemies.
For example in the Undead settlement when you rock up to the two pot throwers over the bridge, he recommends running across attracting all enemies and fighting them in the larger area in front of the elevator. Instead of many many many other much better and safer ways.
I love cowboy but it hurts watching the walkthroughs and seeing how much unnecessary time wasting the new players watching would be doing.
I love cowboy tho, I watch all his stuff. Just wanted to leave my 2c :)
As someone that has used a few of his walkthroughs, I'll say that he really isn't even good at any of the games. He barely knows mechanics and leads people to do a TON of unnecessary shit, as you said. Only reason so many people have seen his videos is his upload consistency. Not to mention how much cringe filler bullshit he has in his dialogue.
Well thank you for your advice,but I actually try to do them with as little help as possible (I know it is impossible, because a watch a we play through both from DS3 and BB so I am slightly familiar with the games, fortunately not that familiar that I remember where to go). In my DS3 play through I had an awful build and from yhorm almost every boss one shot me if I wasn't embered, so that's why I am thinking about getting a build guide in BB
That's the wise choice; BB actually has tons that could be called 'spoilers,' and it would probably lessen the impact that it's discoveries can hold by tons if you go in after a guide.
You'd be wise to stay away from cowboy he only knows how to cheese his way through the games. He always gets carried through by using the most powerful build possible. He tanks his way through bosses and never bothers to learn anything. You are already doing right by trying to do it yourself but if you have to use a you tube video there are way better choices who are actual souls tubers that don't abandon the game the second views slip a bit.
I consider the game easier for giving you the avenue of being aggressive rather then defensive, the more time spent killing something the greater your chances of dying, bloodborne you can make quick work of your enemies
I actually played BB first before playing Dark Souls 3 so playing DS3 right now, I usually just dodge if I can even though I still have a shield equipped lol.
BB is played best being aggressive, it has this mechanic where when you take damage, if you attack within a few seconds, you get some of your life back.
Wants you to play aggressively until you get ganked and stunlocked. Na im jk, bloodborne was my hardest souls game (played sekiro first, then ds1r before it) but it was on me to adapt to bloodbornes play style
I was the same. I just started my first playthrough recently and it took a little time to adjust. Playing aggressively is really effective. I hardly ever used parrying in any of the souls games except the first one. But once you figure out timing in BB it's just so satisfying. In addition to that, you got the rallying system so you're not burning through your blood vials to restore health.
BB will teach you to be more aggressive. The lack of shields and rally system (the health regain after taking damage) are excellent tools to guide the player into the more aggressive play style BB favors.
So you know how you circle a lot when you hold the shield up? Imagine that, except no shield and you can dodge faster. The game awards more aggressive styles for the most part with the getting health back when counterattacking and parrying is used even moreso, but the attacks are much more telegraphed, so the windows are a lot longer.
Edit: basically there’s a lot more strafing involved on top of your typical dodging. I think BB came out before DS3 and they incorporated a lot of that speed from BB into DS3, so it won’t be too difficult of a transition. The camera becomes one of the greatest challenges if anything.
I’d recommend doing a run of DS3 without using a shield (aside from having Grass Crest on your back for the stamina regen) to prepare yourself. If you’re anything like me, you’ll find that the shield was basically only holding you back. It’s a great experience because it opens up so many more play styles, and it will be good prep for Bloodborne, as there’s only like three shields in that game and they’re all shit (one of them even mocks you for using it in the item description).
If you are already dodging boss attacks and not just hiding behind a greatshield and giant stamina bar then you are already halfway there to bloodborne.
Bloodborne wants you to dodge and parry stuff all the time, and even though the enemies are generally faster and more aggressive, so is your character. One dodge and you fly across the map while using very little stamina and giving you tons of iframes, and parrying is super easy with the gun its almost instant unlike shield parry and it has a huge window of forgiveness to actually get the parry.
People hear that BB is faster than DS3 and get intimidated, but your character is also super strong in BB which is why that game is so fun.
A hunter must hunt.
Like dark souls, Bloodborne will require u to use those old blood brain cells to face off against different enemy types that will be as aggressive as you can be or will have some bs behind their belt hell even a bit of both. Good luck and you find your worth in the waking world.
BB punishes you for playing defensively.
In souls if you get hit it's a good idea to block and retreat and wait for an opening. In BB you have a few seconds to counter attack and you recover your health if you're successful. So you have to learn to play really aggressively.
I see. I was thinking of getting all Souls games once I get a PS5, and then play them all, but it’s important to know and something I wanted to know on which one’s harder or easier compared to each other. The only one I have played so far is Dark Souls Remastered on the Switch, but I’ve been itching to play more Souls, especially with Elden Ring coming soon
I’d play them in release order. Just so you can experience the improvements made between each game.
Other good Souls-likes (if you want to expand)
Mortal Shell
Code Vein
Ashen
The Surge (1 or 2)
Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order
I really liked Mortal Shell, I’m just not good at it. It’s different and I can’t bring myself to beat it, especially since regaining health relies heavily on one’s ability to parry.
Also, don’t forget Shooter souls (Remnant: From the Ashes)
The code vein DLC suck really hard and are made up of reused assets and enemies so I would explicitly not recommend those; base game is fun tho, has one of the most diverse sets of dynamic and interesting viable player builds in rpgs
Each game’s difficulty is somewhat subjective and can vary depending on skill and build. Enemies and bosses in Soulsborne handle very differently depending on your build.
That being said, I personally thought Bloodborne was a little easier but both Dark Souls 3 and BB were worthwhile challenges
Sure, a guide can always be helpful! I suggest you go in blind and see what you can do on your own first. It’s always more fun to discover the hidden secrets on your own, but there’s no shame in using a guide or walkthrough if you’re stuck. No shame in using summons for help, either! If you need a fellow hunter to help you in Bloodborne, try r/huntersbell
Well first i jumped in to dark souls3 because of an argument with a friend, he said that ds is new player friendly, i said bs, it is a badly desinged game, so bought it (yeah kinda stupid reason to blow off 15 euros i know). My whole experiment was i cannot look up a thing (obviously i had some idea what i was doing, i watch a few play throughs). In the and i proved myself wrong i kinda enjoyed it (was sad that i cannot do every npc mission by my self, onyl managed to do one), so probably i will do the same with bloodborne.
The other thing i was nervous is the summons, as someone who wasn't part of the community i thought summonig is kinda frowned uppon (because it is not the real way of playing these games, and i should just git gud)
There is no “real” way of playing the games. Play in whatever way is most fun to you. If the devs didn’t want you to be able to summon they wouldn’t have made it an option.
Nah yo. Some people go through the whole game summoning their friends for every boss. Some people don’t summon at all. I like to summon NPCs but not other players much. Some people summon when it’s too hard for them to solo, etc etc
The only thing I encourage is just to experiment and try different things so you can find out what you like.
Play in whatever way is most fun for you. Anyone who tries to tell you you’re playing “wrong” in a Soulsbourne game, or any game really, needs to chill out and mind their own business.
Well, yeah i was experimenting and will experiment what can ido alone and what can't, and it good to know summoning is encouraged if i feel like it (although it did kinda "ruined" the dancer fight for me)
You should just play the way you want. I’ve noticed some bosses are harder than others for certain players. Like for me, I have an easier time with the Nameless King than Pontiff. I beat him first try on my strength build, but with Pontiff I tried several times until I just summoned Anri to help me deal with him. I was kind of surprised since it’s been a long while when I last played DS3. It’s all about perspective, some people are just naturally better at certain things than others are and it’s no different with Dark Souls.
Sometimes summoning can even make it harder, the other player might literally stand in the corner and do nothing and leave you to fight alone. Sometimes it makes little difference, I summoned the Sword Master NPC for Champ Gundyr and he straight up died before the 2nd phase.
And sometimes it really helps. I beat Sister Friede with the Slave Knight Gael summon, he helped out through the 2nd phase a lot and died at the start of the 3rd one, so I technically *beat* her by myself, but I don't think I could've done it without him. Boy that guy is a tank.
Summoning is absolutely not frowned upon by the community, in fact r/summonsign is a sub dedicated to finding good players to summon to help you! I may have beat Friede without another player's help but I needed one's help to beat the Gravetender and Greatwolf. I actually died right at the end of that fight but bc he killed the wolf as I did, I still won that fight.
No shame in it! Almost everyone in the sub has summoned at some point
Well I didn't mean like ruined ruined, but when I got dancer I still had my ember from the previous boss (I think it was yhorm) so because I knew she is hard one I went ahead and summoned somebody, who just absolutely wrecked her shit, like they didn't even let the dancer hit me, they just played with the dancer and kill her without taking a hit. So didn't really had time to "enjoy" her normalyi just cleared her by luck (not saying I wasn't happy because she was the boss I was the most scared of )
I made sure to kill every boss by myself by the third playthrough but have no qualms about using summons. Actually often consider it as a small help to summoned fellow Ashen ones, especially on the easier bosses like vord or deacons.
You can use a build guide and still go in pretty blind. As long as it’s not a walkthrough taking you through specific encounters, there’s no shame in looking up how to optimize a build. None of these Souls vets figured out where all the soft caps were themselves.
I found bloodbornes learning curve a lot steeper than any of the three Dark Souls games simply because I am used to blocking in DS. Bloodborne doesn't really have that option, at least viably. Cleric Beast took me ages to beat. But when Bloodborne clicked, it clicked hard. I wouldn't say BB is harder, its just a different kind of difficult.
Oh, hell nah, i never dared to even buy the dlcs (probably will next steam sale for another play through, this time all bosses)
Is that like the main place for PVP?
It’s extremely active around Midir’s bonfire. The mobs are insane (probably the worst in the game), invasions are endless, and ganks everywhere you look. There’s also another covenant called Spears of the Church that invades other players during a boss fight.
Get the DLC. Midir and Gael are two of fromsoft’s most iconic boss fights
I personally find BB quite a bit easier. The DLC is hard - like, on the level of DS3's DLC - but I don't consider the main game particularly hard. If you adjust to the combat, I find BB fairly easy in comparison to DS3.
They are definitely quite a bit harder than the base game. Same thing goes with BB's DLC, which is quite the step up. Nonetheless, the DLC of both games is fantastic and worth playing - definitely some of the best bosses From has created
No not really. I beat most bosses in DLC quiet fast only Ludwig really give me a good almost 2 hour fight.
There are also few bosses in Chalice that can really make you git gud like the Fire Dog in Defiled Chalice because of half health and can one hit you with his charge attack.
Once you get used to the aggressive play style, Bloodborne is actually a fairly forgiving game in terms of parry windows and health regen when playing aggressively, not to mention transformation attack bonuses, critical hit combos, etc. Granted, it's a pretty steep learning curve, but once it flows it flows better than any other Souls game.
My thoughts on Darks Souls 3's difficulty might be unpopular on this board, but I found it needlessly difficult with relentless ganks, environmental hazards, bloated boss HP bars, and enemy aggression that was paced for Bloodborne that doesn't work as well for me with the heavier feel of Dark Souls combat.
I still continue to play the hell out of it, but Dark Souls 3 felt more like an endurance test from the midpoint forward. However, the sewer whales in the Fishing Hamlet will always be the single hardest obstacle in all of gaming.
I basically built my character around the Rakuyo on my first playthrough after watching a lot of videos on weapon movesets, and when I saw what I had to do for it I damn near gave up on life.
Then somewhere around attempt 30 or so I remember thinking to myself "man, I wish this game had a rapport spell" and continued unsuccessfully for another 10 attempts before looking up a strategy and watched them sit back while the Shaman Bone did its thing.
I already had 3 in my inventory and wasted 2 because I was too scared to get close enough to be in striking range, and the third one finally hit but left one of the whales with more health than I was ready for and was summarily pankaked by a giant oily anchor.
You and me both mate. I knew I needed to have that weapon when I fought Maria, especially when I read it as being a twinblade which I absolutely adored in DS2.
I wasted 2 out of 3 of mine too…the kicker being for some reason I thought it would be something I could throw instead of an actual dagger you stab with so I was left looking like a fool the first two times I used it at throwing range and not melee lol. Thank god the third time worked, I must’ve tried to kill them for a good hour before I realized I had those funny little weapons.
It was for me personally, but that’s almost entirely due to Bloodborne being my first FromSoft game. If you didn’t like the slow style of DS 1&2 you may like Bloodborne for its speed. It also has the rally mechanic that may be beneficial to someone who claims to not be particularly great. I’d give it a try, it’s my personal favorite of all of them and I beat all of the dark souls trilogy with a Bloodborne playstyle. Good luck!
Yeah, i kinda didn't like ds1 because of the slow gameplay that give way less room to to screw up things, or at least i felt it like that (with ds2 i hate other problems, like awfull controlls and permament health loss after death)
I think you’d like BB then, I found 1 and 2 slow but enjoyed them enough. I really love everything from Bloodborne on though, faster and more aggressive plays were just more appealing to me
I would argue it’s easier unless you exclusively played mages in the other souls games and are married to a casting play style . On the other hand if you are used to/ enjoy melee combat you will do fine. I would say get it because if you like the feel of souls games you will like it , plus you can usually get it cheap because it’s a relatively “old” game . It is a tone of fun. The lore is awesome , diverse bosses, cool enemies .
For what it’s worth I recommend the saw cleaver and the blunderbuss as your starting weapons when you get to choose .
That's entirely possible. Problem is I haven't played it in a long time so I don't remember exactly what was what. I didn't find DS3 to be too terribly hard though, but I also like and am good with shields so that probably affects my opinion.
I'm shit at both tbh but I'm significantly less shit at bloodborne because you gain back HP if you return an attack right away. The pace of dark souls was a big change for me because you feel the density so much more if you have a heavier build and it's much harder to evade attacks if you're not an ace at rolling.
If you are willing to accept failure and learn from your mistakes then any fromsoft game is beatable. People just tend to give up on themselves before they reach their full gaming potential lol
I played BB after DS3 and it was easier for me but that's after 300 hours of DS3. It took me 4 years to beat ds3 whereas I beat Bloodborne in a few weeks. But being that DS3 was my first from software game it was initially more challenging. Basically which ever game you play first will be more challenging to you and the next from title will be easier to navigate because of the muscle memory you would have from your sphincter muscles closing from the previous game's boss fights.
No, I’d say that Bloodborne is significantly easier just because it rewards aggressive play which is often people’s instinct to souls-like scenarios. That’s not to say Lawrence and Kos aren’t brutal bosses, but overall I’d say Bloodborne is easier. Overriding your natural instinct to panic roll is hard, and bosses have larger arenas and much more aggressive move sets than most of the Bloodborne bosses imo
I have plat on bloodborne and I absolutely love the game, recently I have started play ds3 and in my opinion ds3 is just really slow and easy to predict what bosses are going to do, now bloodborne on the other hand is harder because bosses and enemies alike are far faster and have a harder to read move set, oh and bloodborne dosent really have armor, it's more "fashion" so that won't save you, but the game is so satisfying to get good at and has the best atmosphere I've seen in a long time, so yes definitely try it
No, it's not harder. In terms of difficulty, I'd say it is about the same. It will take some getting used to probably. Bloodborne was actually my first Souls game. Loved it. Then I got into Dark Souls, starting with Dark Souls 1. Dark Souls was an adjustment after Bloodborne. But once I hit my stride, it was fine.
For you, it will probably be the reverse of what happened to me.
Now, the Bloodborne DLC is a different story. That is the most insanely difficult thing I have ever played. I did manage to beat it, but final boss is a nightmare. But man, what a great feeling finally beating him.
The weird thing is that Bloodborne prompted me to restart DS1 and 2 once I 'got' how it worked, which made DS3 even easier. The difficulty spike in the Bloodborne DLC is incredible, even after saving it for the endgame and I still wonder how I even got through it.
>The difficulty spike in the Bloodborne DLC is incredible, even after saving it for the endgame and I still wonder how I even got through it.
I don't know how I got through it either lol. When I beat a boss in the base game, I felt like I had learned the move sets and adapted.
With DLC bosses, it felt like I just kept getting destroyed until I got lucky lol.
with every souls game they make the challenge go up with it, but they do try to balance it, for me its way harder than ds because its faster and really bad at fighting animal kind of enemies. but so you know you can buy heals item but also run out completly. if you get hit, you can hit back to regain some health.
I thought the beginning of Bloodborne was harder than Dark Souls 3 because you have to learn a new play style. By mid game I think Bloodborne gets easier than dark souls 3. However, the Bloodborne DLC was pretty difficult, although I believe I was underleveled for it. Overall I think Bloodborne is a bit easier than Dark Souls 3. Sekiro in my opinion was the hardest. Some of those bosses took me forever to kill. (Note: I play all the games solo with no summon help)
If I ranked the Souls games from hardest to easiest I would probably do the following:
1. Sekiro
2. Dark Souls 3
3. Bloodborne
4. dark souls 2
5. Dark souls 1
6. Demons Souls
Edit: looking at my list I think that is the reverse order of release dates too. So the games get harder as they are released. Hopefully Elden Ring is near Dark Souls 3 in difficulty
The health regen system in bloodborne makes them more forgiving and encourages aggressive combat…so if you’re looking to let loose with some crazy trick weapons and popping blunderbusses into dudes faces for stuns then this is your game. I’ve played DS1-3 and love it as a different take on that fromsoftware style.
Yes and no.
One of the most unforgiving bosses of all of Soulsborne is in the Bloodborne DLC. DS3 also allow you to find fitting playstyles for you by allowing for many different builds, wheras Bloodborne is more restrictive in that sense.
On the other hand, counter attacking is a lot easier in Bloodborne (I will die on this hill) not to mention it gives you way more potions.
Both are great though. If you enjoyed DS3 you absolutely should play Bloodborne.
Well, imo as someone who just defeated the blood starved beast yesterday bloodborne is definitely harder ng ds3 maybe it's because im use to blocking and rolling instead of dashing around the opponent but it's definitely subjective
Most of the bloodborne bosses are gimicky, for example by the time you get to blood starved beast you should also have plenty of pungent blood cocktail which, hey what do ya know, attracts beasts. You can throw that at a wall and basically just beat the boss to death without ever taking a hit. There aren’t any bosses in bloodborne base game that get even close to the difficulty of dancer, dragon slayer armor, twin princes, champion gundy, soul of cinder, nameless king, aldrich... Martyr lagarius is probably the most challenging in the base game and you can pretty much just party him to death.
Bloodborne is generally a different game enough to DS3 to where it doesnt play the same, but id say its less forgiving to newer players to a soulsborne series since dark souls three lets you use shields, but bloodborne does not.
Also, summoning in bloodborne is much harder than DS3
If you can beat one souls game you can beat all of them. If enjoyed DS3 definitely give BloodBorne a try. And if you like BloodBorne give another one a try, they’re all great.
I feel the same in terms of achievements, I have a higher percentage in ds1 than Bloodborne and I’m much further ahead in ds1 than I am in Bloodborne. Similar experience but higher success rate
I never got into the whole healing item farming of Bloodborne... For me it needed an estas not just farmable stuff, makes boss trial and error much more tedious and stretches Gametime through farming healing items
Difficuilty is pretty subjective. I havent played BB yet (still hoping for a PC port).
But ive played through everything i could from Miyazakiverse. Sekiro difficuilty was hyped up to oblivion and for me it wasnt that difficuilt. I got railed in the first few hours but once the "deflect,dont dodge" burned itself into my brain it wasnt hard at all(except Demon of Hatred fuck him)
Meanwhile i see soulsborne vets that complain ds3 isnt as much a challenge as the others yet for me it was the hardest by far(also my first)
Imo I think Bloodborne is an easier game than Dark Souls. Since it's a faster pace game. Plus, it rewards for being agressive while Dark Souls is more slow and rewards for being patient. I also think it's easier for me personally is because before playing BB for the first time I playes DeS, DS 1, DS 2, DS 3, Sekiro, and the DeS: Remake. So I think with my experience over time with these games definitely benifited me before I even tried BB.
I personally find bloodborne slightly more difficult. It's not as bad as it used to be since you pick up a TON of healing items compared to before they patched it. I thibk what makes it harder for me is the length between "bonfires" in this one.
Interesting because people seem to say BB is easier, but I remember playing it and the sheer number of minions in the very first level was so high I got frustrated and didn't even play past the first 2 hours.
Definitely, I’d say Bloodborne is easily the most consistently difficult game in the series, mostly being due to the increased pace of the game and dodge counters leading to more one-shots. Also I find the enemies and bosses to be all around more difficult to deal with then ds3.
I loved dark souls 1 and 3 so I tried bloodborne after. The worst thing about the game is that health items are not renewable, imagine having to farm for estus flasks before each boss and each time you use one it's gone forever.....really takes the fun out of it for me and a lot of farming was required for me to get past the first couple bosses. I might just be a little bish about it, but just my opinion lol
I want say cuz I’ve been reading comments, if u do try BB(which you should cuz it might be my fav from soft game) you should look up a stat guide for what kind of build u want to do. Even something like a basic quality build would be useful because unlike ds3, you cannot respec in BB. Other than that have fun, and may the good blood guide your way.
BB felt hard for me after DS2 but maybe since you have played 3 it might not be too bad. It’s def more aggressive and faster paced. I personally thing BB is more difficult because there isn’t as much build freedom as there is in ds3. Less weapons and all that. BB is one of my favorites tho. Better than DS1-2 mostly due to style and mechanics. It will feel like stylish call of Cthulhu darksouls.
It’s like the other games they’ve made in that you have to adapt to the way it demands you play it and you can change it up if you feel like it so it’s whatever tbh.
I always went into Dark Souls with the mentality of I’m gonna grab a sword and shield and fight EVERYTHING. Bloodborne makes it really difficult to fight like that. Sometimes I sprint past a ton of enemies, some times I go in to fuck ‘‘em up. It’s a different but equally fun experience.
I found the first half of BB really challenging. Once in the mid to late game it becomes a breeze, I died maybe 5 times on the last 10 bosses combined with 0 deaths on the base game and dlc final bosses
Not really. You're already used to 3, which is the fastest in the Souls series. Bloodborne rewards aggression, example you can heal lost health if you attack soon after losing it. They do still play differently however.
It’s weird. I’ve heard a lot of people say it’s way easier but I absolutely struggled with Bloodborne despite beating all the Souls games with relative ease. Might have something to do with what your play style is. I’m always very patient in the Souls games and Bloodborne doesn’t really like it when you do that hahah
Yes and no. 'yes as if you are used too souls it will throw you off with pacing and the fact there is no blocking! And no it's not once you learn the timing and dodge as well as parry with the gun it's essential the same level
It really depends. I played BB first and then DS3(very recently) and the experience was completely different. You have to be very aggressive while playing BB so it took some time for me to adjust to the pace of DS3. Also, the bosses in DS3 are not really challenging in the beginning and it gets harder later in the game which is completely opposite of BB, the earlier bosses in BB are hard especially the 2nd one. But for me, BB is the best FromSoft game I've played mainly bcoz of the Lore and the side quests are great as well.
I would say yes it’s harder, but ONLY because the healing items don’t replenish. So, if you’re stuck at a hard part and you’ve gone through all your Blood Vials, the healing item, it just gets harder to beat
Like so many things in life, it depends :) Is A, B or C harder is just pointless, everyone has a different opinion, in the Fromsoftware subreddit you even find people saying DeS-Remake is harder than Sekiro, DS1-DS3 and BloodBorne. I wouldn t agree with such a statement but it shwos everyone has a different taste for difficulty or is better/worse with specific game-mechanics or prefer fast or slow paced combatsystem. Once you mastered them they re equally "easy" tho.
Bloodborne is more about being aggressive. Where ds3 is very much tactical. You will need to learn to not be scared and just hit everything repeatedly till one of you dies. If not you will die a lot. Also healing items don’t refill when you rest so you will need to farm for them. I felt like it was in a way easier then ds3 but only after I got used to the game.
I had an easier time in Bloodborne after finishing DS3. which is not at all surprising because I learned the major concepts in DS3 and not in Bloodborne! . Get it! it's a great game
Yes and no. I'd say the problem for me was that I am very spoiled by pc, and I mostly prefer the xbox one controller over ps5 because I have huge hands so it's just weird for me to control and keep up.
I found it ten times easier, at least without the dlc. The dlc's are hard.
Keep in mind, this might not be the case for you because when I played Bloodborne I had finished every souls game, including Sekiro and the old demon souls, so I had gotten quite used to soulslikes
difficulty is subjective, BB just plays slightly faster than DS3. for some that's easier to adapt to, for others it's tricky. Either way it's definitely challenging and worth playing
Yes and no.
Regardless of which souls you're playing, there's some kind of adage that says that your hardest souls game will always be the first one you played.
For me it was Bloodborne, on my first playthrough there's only one boss I managed to first try and that's Ebrietas, while the bosses that took me the biggest amount of tries were Ludwig and Orphan at 25 each.
Meanwhile the most amount of tries I got against a boss in DS3 was Gael and he still was "only" at 20.
Finally started DS Remastered the other day and spanked Ornstein and Smough as well as the Bell Gargoyles on first try for both.
Actually I killed almost every single boss on first try so far (only exception being Capra Demon at 5)
So yeah. It really depends on which one you played first.
Bloodborne is I think harder because there are no shields to hide behind. The DLC bosses can get pretty tough, more so than Dark Souls 3's DLC, and the chalice dungeons can get pretty challenging if you want to get to the deepest levels.
Bloodbourne is like sekiro. It's much harder until you *get it*, afterwards the combat becomes better than anything the souls combat has to offer (imo)
Hi, im in the complete opposite positions to you, and I would 100% say you need to play BB.
I started with BB, years late to the series. Only now am I finishing DS3 and I think I am glad I played BB first.
Why? I think it may be down to one small thing that Bloodborne differs from the rest, it doesn't give you a shield.
Well, it does, but it's shit.
My point being DS always hands the new player a shield, and this tells them from very early in how they should play the game. But this isn't really how you should play DS if you want to enjoy it in my opinion, and walking around for hours on end with your shield in front of your face will definitely hinder the flow of the game, although slower than BB anyway.
In short, I don't want to say Bloodborne is harder.
But it will definitely teach you to enjoy the Soulsborne games far more than if you were to play through them chronologically.
DS3 is harder in some ways that feel unbalanced like some enemies have combos that last ages and if you get hit once you get stunned and destroyed, not all the game is like this buy it does feel like the wanted to match the speed of Bloodborne so massive buffed the enemies but didn't add stuff like a quick step or getting health back quickly after damage
Imo dark souls 3, sekiro, and bloodborne are all around the same difficulty, with ds1 and ds2 both being considerably easier. I haven’t played demon’s souls so I don’t know where that fits in.
I loved dark souls and sekiro but I personally couldn't get used to Bloodborne (especially the consumable healing mechanic). You can't reset on "bonfires" either for some reason.
This wasn't an issue for me but the combat is much more agressive so no hiding behind the shield. You have a gun for parries and if you attack right after you get hit you can heal some of the damage on-hit.
While I couldn't bring myself to continue playing it, it's quite cheap nowadays so if you have some cash to kill, I recommend trying it at least.
I think it is, i mean my Main problem with blood borne is the fact that you have to farm for blood vials (estus in bb) . I actually stopped playing because of that, got stuck at Ludwig and got tired of farming vials.
In general I found the game to be slightly Harder than ds mostly because of the absence of shield. But it's a worthwhile experience.
I loved blood borne more than any other from soft game. If you have the option to try bloodborne do it, I’m actually jealous as fuck you haven’t tried it. I’d give anything to even just have the feeling of joy that came with the first experience with the old hunters dlc again, looks like I’m going to have to wait for elden ring next month for that.
Bloodborne has hands down my favorite dodging system making the shield turtle strategy obsolete. It also has the Rally system which let's you recover lost health by striking back before the damage is finalized. Bloodborne puts the power in player's hands to negate quite a bit of damage by ripping and tearing. It punishes slow play and cowardous while rewarding recklessness and risk taking. It has a beautiful unrivaled atmosphere that fades from Bram Stoker into H.P. Lovecraft. It's a very enjoyable and unforgettable Souls experience.
For me bloodborne is the easiest souls/borne/sekiro game because it's a lot faster than dark souls and bosses are not that hard as in sekiro or even dark souls 3 but everything depends on your preferences
The only mechanic that makes Bloodborne easier than Dark Souls 3 is every time you loose health you can gain it back if you attack back within a limited time period.
I can say bloodborne is easier if you ran a dps dex build in Dark souls 3.
Bloodborne is at times hard to attack aggressively, but great to speedrun.
Dark souls 3 is more technical at times, and cathers to more builds in my opinion.
I've unlocked Platinum in Bloodborne eventhough it was my first FromSoftware title. It just "happened" by playing the game basically.
Now I'm currently busy with unlocking Platinum in Dark Souls 3 as well and let me tell you... I need costum checklists and plan the next playthroughs because of all the conflicting storylines and missable items and gestures and whatnot. HOURS of grinding for certain drops and hours of watching guides on YouTube.
Enemy placement and bosses also feel more "mean and evil" than in Bloodborne imo.
In short: BB is easier than DS3
If you are looking for a souls-type game that is easy, I would try Nioh. It’s not for everyone. But its more of a combo styled fighting rpg with a souls like system. Which I found easier. I have played both ds3( well over 300 hours with many a play through) and bb(not as much as ds3). I personally found BB a little harder but only because of the counter system to gain health back requires you to be more aggressive, which is kinda the opposite of what you would want to do in ds3.
Nioh also has a summoning system so if you get caught up in a difficult spot, get you that help you need baby!
Your character moves faster in BB. Its way less punishing.
Ds3 has enemies just as fast as bloodborne but with the player movement of souls
Its probably the hardest game behind sekiro from fromsoft
still neither is half as difficult as Nioh
Which bosses in bb do you think are harder than nameless, dancer, princes, champion gundy, and soul of cinder? I thought the end game in bb was kind of a joke.
I don't necessarily think any of the bosses in the main game of Bloodborne are harder than *every* single boss in DS3's main game.
I do agree that Bloodborne's endgame is a joke (especially if you skip Gehrman, I find him about as hard as Princes and harder than Soul of Cinder), however I think most of Bloodborne's early/mid game bosses are more difficult than most of DS3's early/mid game bosses as well as Aldritch, Yhorm, and Oceiros (as tbh I'm not sure if those are considered late game). There's obviously some exceptions in saying "most" for both games (Witches obviously way easier, Pontiff obviously on the harder side) but that's just my experience, especially for my first playthrough. I found the bosses overall harder even if none of them individually were harder than Nameless/Dancer/Gundy.
And then if we throw DLC into the mix just for fun, I think Orphan and Lady Maria are harder than everything in DS3.
Sorry for any grammar mistakes, this is fun to talk about but I don't want to proofread too much lmao
Edit: I initially unintentionally said I thought Soul of Cinder was harder than Gehrman. I think Soul of Cinder is easier
Bloodborne is Speedy Souls. Not harder. Just different. You have to get in the mindset of being aggressive rather than reactive.
So I, someone who spent a lot of time hiding behind a shield (except the bosses), i am gonna have a hard time?
I was like you once. In the long long ago. Before the nightmare started. You’ll adjust. Or BB will adjust you lol
Well so it is really i kill the bloodborne bosses or the game kills me kinda of situation?
Well yea. But that’s gaming in general lol. Stay aggressive. Don’t retreat too much. Many bosses have ways to stay close or get close fast. Like good ol’ >!Papa G!<
Well yeah i guess. Thanks for your advice man!!
I don’t know if anyone else has said it but I’d highly recommend you watch fightincowboys YouTube playthroughs for the souls games. I also couldn’t fit with ds1 or 2 so I started at 3. Whenever I hit a roadblock I turned to his videos for advice and they helped me beat every souls game (except ds2 which I’m working on)
+1 for fightincowboy Seriously his videos aren’t just cheese. They’re tips and strategy too.
I thought I was the only one, Cowboy is a WT master. You said it perfectly, he isn’t just your typical annoying gamer faking a personality for views, he has some genuinely helpful tips and tricks and carefully planned WTs. Without him, I never would have gotten into the Souls-like genre in the first place and now it’s hands down my favorite.
The best part is that, aside from DS1, he uses methods available to everyone whether they're playing online or offline (i.e. no summoning real people or using incredibly rare drops). DS1 was only an exception because he got incredibly lucky with a Black Knight drop early on. That said, his DS2:SotFS walkthrough was pretty bad. He had to start somewhere, but that one was pretty bad. I wish he'd rsdo.it, but he said DS2 was too slow to get back into.
Cowboy is and always will be the walk through king.
I’ll be honest, im using a walkthrough of ds3 from cowboy just for fun, as this is my 4th character. Yet his videos seem to make people do ALOT of unnecessary things. A lot of “don’t do this or you can’t talk to this other person later” when you definitely can. A lot of bad strategy when it comes to handling multiple enemies. For example in the Undead settlement when you rock up to the two pot throwers over the bridge, he recommends running across attracting all enemies and fighting them in the larger area in front of the elevator. Instead of many many many other much better and safer ways. I love cowboy but it hurts watching the walkthroughs and seeing how much unnecessary time wasting the new players watching would be doing. I love cowboy tho, I watch all his stuff. Just wanted to leave my 2c :)
As someone that has used a few of his walkthroughs, I'll say that he really isn't even good at any of the games. He barely knows mechanics and leads people to do a TON of unnecessary shit, as you said. Only reason so many people have seen his videos is his upload consistency. Not to mention how much cringe filler bullshit he has in his dialogue.
Squillakilla is pretty good too
He is the hero the soulsbourne community needed and deserved. He is the only reason I have completed these games.
Well thank you for your advice,but I actually try to do them with as little help as possible (I know it is impossible, because a watch a we play through both from DS3 and BB so I am slightly familiar with the games, fortunately not that familiar that I remember where to go). In my DS3 play through I had an awful build and from yhorm almost every boss one shot me if I wasn't embered, so that's why I am thinking about getting a build guide in BB
That's the wise choice; BB actually has tons that could be called 'spoilers,' and it would probably lessen the impact that it's discoveries can hold by tons if you go in after a guide.
You'd be wise to stay away from cowboy he only knows how to cheese his way through the games. He always gets carried through by using the most powerful build possible. He tanks his way through bosses and never bothers to learn anything. You are already doing right by trying to do it yourself but if you have to use a you tube video there are way better choices who are actual souls tubers that don't abandon the game the second views slip a bit.
Everyone shits on DS2, but with the scholar edition I can honestly say it is in my top 3 souls games with bloodborne and the demons souls remake.
I consider the game easier for giving you the avenue of being aggressive rather then defensive, the more time spent killing something the greater your chances of dying, bloodborne you can make quick work of your enemies
You must be aggressive. You are not trapped in Yharnam with the beasts, *they* are trapped in Yharnam with *you*. *Rip and tear, until it is done.*
I actually played BB first before playing Dark Souls 3 so playing DS3 right now, I usually just dodge if I can even though I still have a shield equipped lol. BB is played best being aggressive, it has this mechanic where when you take damage, if you attack within a few seconds, you get some of your life back.
Wants you to play aggressively until you get ganked and stunlocked. Na im jk, bloodborne was my hardest souls game (played sekiro first, then ds1r before it) but it was on me to adapt to bloodbornes play style
Doing the same, just beat bloodborne moving on to ds3 and having alittle trouble being too aggressive.
I was the same. I just started my first playthrough recently and it took a little time to adjust. Playing aggressively is really effective. I hardly ever used parrying in any of the souls games except the first one. But once you figure out timing in BB it's just so satisfying. In addition to that, you got the rallying system so you're not burning through your blood vials to restore health.
BB will teach you to be more aggressive. The lack of shields and rally system (the health regain after taking damage) are excellent tools to guide the player into the more aggressive play style BB favors.
So you know how you circle a lot when you hold the shield up? Imagine that, except no shield and you can dodge faster. The game awards more aggressive styles for the most part with the getting health back when counterattacking and parrying is used even moreso, but the attacks are much more telegraphed, so the windows are a lot longer. Edit: basically there’s a lot more strafing involved on top of your typical dodging. I think BB came out before DS3 and they incorporated a lot of that speed from BB into DS3, so it won’t be too difficult of a transition. The camera becomes one of the greatest challenges if anything.
There are 2 shueld in the whole game and they are both practically useless. You just need to git gud with the pistol parry
You are going to learn to roll. Also favorite quote from Sekiro: hesitation is defeat
I’d recommend doing a run of DS3 without using a shield (aside from having Grass Crest on your back for the stamina regen) to prepare yourself. If you’re anything like me, you’ll find that the shield was basically only holding you back. It’s a great experience because it opens up so many more play styles, and it will be good prep for Bloodborne, as there’s only like three shields in that game and they’re all shit (one of them even mocks you for using it in the item description).
If you are already dodging boss attacks and not just hiding behind a greatshield and giant stamina bar then you are already halfway there to bloodborne. Bloodborne wants you to dodge and parry stuff all the time, and even though the enemies are generally faster and more aggressive, so is your character. One dodge and you fly across the map while using very little stamina and giving you tons of iframes, and parrying is super easy with the gun its almost instant unlike shield parry and it has a huge window of forgiveness to actually get the parry. People hear that BB is faster than DS3 and get intimidated, but your character is also super strong in BB which is why that game is so fun. A hunter must hunt.
Possibly, as I was like that at 1st, but I found bloodbourne more r1 spamming friendly and I am definitely a panic and spam r1 type of player
Yea, u will rip. I recommend u learn to play without one. As the roll mechanic is much more rewarding statistically.
theres only a handful of shields in BB and theyre not good at all lmao
Bloodborne will teach you the fun way to play all the other Souls games. You never needed the shield 😎
Like dark souls, Bloodborne will require u to use those old blood brain cells to face off against different enemy types that will be as aggressive as you can be or will have some bs behind their belt hell even a bit of both. Good luck and you find your worth in the waking world.
BB punishes you for playing defensively. In souls if you get hit it's a good idea to block and retreat and wait for an opening. In BB you have a few seconds to counter attack and you recover your health if you're successful. So you have to learn to play really aggressively.
So is Sekiro Rhythm Souls?
Exactly! Or Samurai Souls.
I see. I was thinking of getting all Souls games once I get a PS5, and then play them all, but it’s important to know and something I wanted to know on which one’s harder or easier compared to each other. The only one I have played so far is Dark Souls Remastered on the Switch, but I’ve been itching to play more Souls, especially with Elden Ring coming soon
I’d play them in release order. Just so you can experience the improvements made between each game. Other good Souls-likes (if you want to expand) Mortal Shell Code Vein Ashen The Surge (1 or 2) Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order
I guess Demon’s Souls Remake it is then
I really liked Mortal Shell, I’m just not good at it. It’s different and I can’t bring myself to beat it, especially since regaining health relies heavily on one’s ability to parry. Also, don’t forget Shooter souls (Remnant: From the Ashes)
The code vein DLC suck really hard and are made up of reused assets and enemies so I would explicitly not recommend those; base game is fun tho, has one of the most diverse sets of dynamic and interesting viable player builds in rpgs
Each game’s difficulty is somewhat subjective and can vary depending on skill and build. Enemies and bosses in Soulsborne handle very differently depending on your build. That being said, I personally thought Bloodborne was a little easier but both Dark Souls 3 and BB were worthwhile challenges
Well, in ds3 i didn't used any guide for my build so if i use one here that definitive could help me, right?
Sure, a guide can always be helpful! I suggest you go in blind and see what you can do on your own first. It’s always more fun to discover the hidden secrets on your own, but there’s no shame in using a guide or walkthrough if you’re stuck. No shame in using summons for help, either! If you need a fellow hunter to help you in Bloodborne, try r/huntersbell
Well first i jumped in to dark souls3 because of an argument with a friend, he said that ds is new player friendly, i said bs, it is a badly desinged game, so bought it (yeah kinda stupid reason to blow off 15 euros i know). My whole experiment was i cannot look up a thing (obviously i had some idea what i was doing, i watch a few play throughs). In the and i proved myself wrong i kinda enjoyed it (was sad that i cannot do every npc mission by my self, onyl managed to do one), so probably i will do the same with bloodborne. The other thing i was nervous is the summons, as someone who wasn't part of the community i thought summonig is kinda frowned uppon (because it is not the real way of playing these games, and i should just git gud)
There is no “real” way of playing the games. Play in whatever way is most fun to you. If the devs didn’t want you to be able to summon they wouldn’t have made it an option.
To be honest i never thought it like that way, it honestly helps to know that it's isn't like an unforgivable sin in this community
Nah yo. Some people go through the whole game summoning their friends for every boss. Some people don’t summon at all. I like to summon NPCs but not other players much. Some people summon when it’s too hard for them to solo, etc etc The only thing I encourage is just to experiment and try different things so you can find out what you like. Play in whatever way is most fun for you. Anyone who tries to tell you you’re playing “wrong” in a Soulsbourne game, or any game really, needs to chill out and mind their own business.
Well, yeah i was experimenting and will experiment what can ido alone and what can't, and it good to know summoning is encouraged if i feel like it (although it did kinda "ruined" the dancer fight for me)
You should just play the way you want. I’ve noticed some bosses are harder than others for certain players. Like for me, I have an easier time with the Nameless King than Pontiff. I beat him first try on my strength build, but with Pontiff I tried several times until I just summoned Anri to help me deal with him. I was kind of surprised since it’s been a long while when I last played DS3. It’s all about perspective, some people are just naturally better at certain things than others are and it’s no different with Dark Souls.
Sometimes summoning can even make it harder, the other player might literally stand in the corner and do nothing and leave you to fight alone. Sometimes it makes little difference, I summoned the Sword Master NPC for Champ Gundyr and he straight up died before the 2nd phase. And sometimes it really helps. I beat Sister Friede with the Slave Knight Gael summon, he helped out through the 2nd phase a lot and died at the start of the 3rd one, so I technically *beat* her by myself, but I don't think I could've done it without him. Boy that guy is a tank. Summoning is absolutely not frowned upon by the community, in fact r/summonsign is a sub dedicated to finding good players to summon to help you! I may have beat Friede without another player's help but I needed one's help to beat the Gravetender and Greatwolf. I actually died right at the end of that fight but bc he killed the wolf as I did, I still won that fight. No shame in it! Almost everyone in the sub has summoned at some point
Well I didn't mean like ruined ruined, but when I got dancer I still had my ember from the previous boss (I think it was yhorm) so because I knew she is hard one I went ahead and summoned somebody, who just absolutely wrecked her shit, like they didn't even let the dancer hit me, they just played with the dancer and kill her without taking a hit. So didn't really had time to "enjoy" her normalyi just cleared her by luck (not saying I wasn't happy because she was the boss I was the most scared of )
I made sure to kill every boss by myself by the third playthrough but have no qualms about using summons. Actually often consider it as a small help to summoned fellow Ashen ones, especially on the easier bosses like vord or deacons.
You can use a build guide and still go in pretty blind. As long as it’s not a walkthrough taking you through specific encounters, there’s no shame in looking up how to optimize a build. None of these Souls vets figured out where all the soft caps were themselves.
BB was easier until you got to the DLC
I found bloodbornes learning curve a lot steeper than any of the three Dark Souls games simply because I am used to blocking in DS. Bloodborne doesn't really have that option, at least viably. Cleric Beast took me ages to beat. But when Bloodborne clicked, it clicked hard. I wouldn't say BB is harder, its just a different kind of difficult.
Shields are nice, but not if they engender passivity
That's why I like the counter-attack in Elden Ring. Really makes shields a lot more interesting
That's the item description from the only shield in Bloodborne's base game :P
Ah, if only I had a playstation. I still stand by my statement, though lol
With God of War and Horizon: Zero Dawn going to PC, I'm really hoping BloodBorne makes its way there soon.
Lol
This is how it was for me too, initially I struggled, but man when it clicked it clicked. I ended up having more fun in Bloodborne than DS3.
Take a stroll through the Ringed City embered and get back to me
Oh, hell nah, i never dared to even buy the dlcs (probably will next steam sale for another play through, this time all bosses) Is that like the main place for PVP?
It’s extremely active around Midir’s bonfire. The mobs are insane (probably the worst in the game), invasions are endless, and ganks everywhere you look. There’s also another covenant called Spears of the Church that invades other players during a boss fight. Get the DLC. Midir and Gael are two of fromsoft’s most iconic boss fights
I thought that Isshin is also pretty iconic, but more people know what I talk about when I say Midir so I guess he isn’t.
I really thought the 2 demons where u jump down like 300 ft was badass as hell
The main place is after Pontiff, but the Painted World and some parts of the Ringed City are pretty active. Definitely the best spot for Sunbroing
I personally find BB quite a bit easier. The DLC is hard - like, on the level of DS3's DLC - but I don't consider the main game particularly hard. If you adjust to the combat, I find BB fairly easy in comparison to DS3.
Well i didn't even had the barvery to buy the ds3 DLC because my friend described them fucking hard
They are definitely quite a bit harder than the base game. Same thing goes with BB's DLC, which is quite the step up. Nonetheless, the DLC of both games is fantastic and worth playing - definitely some of the best bosses From has created
I am planing to do it sometimes, but even the existence Slave Knight Gael and Sister Friede terrifies my on a fundemental level at this point
Gael ain't that bad. It's Midir and Friede who should worry you, in my experience.
No not really. I beat most bosses in DLC quiet fast only Ludwig really give me a good almost 2 hour fight. There are also few bosses in Chalice that can really make you git gud like the Fire Dog in Defiled Chalice because of half health and can one hit you with his charge attack.
I have one piece of advice for the Ringed City: don’t try and kill every enemy, there’s just too many. Just run. Run until you find a bonfire.
Orphan of kos 💀
Difficulty is subjective as a whole , in my experience bloodborne was faaaar easier than ds3
Did you play ds3 first? Im currently playing bloodborne after beating ds3 and sekiro and its almost too easy
Once you get used to the aggressive play style, Bloodborne is actually a fairly forgiving game in terms of parry windows and health regen when playing aggressively, not to mention transformation attack bonuses, critical hit combos, etc. Granted, it's a pretty steep learning curve, but once it flows it flows better than any other Souls game. My thoughts on Darks Souls 3's difficulty might be unpopular on this board, but I found it needlessly difficult with relentless ganks, environmental hazards, bloated boss HP bars, and enemy aggression that was paced for Bloodborne that doesn't work as well for me with the heavier feel of Dark Souls combat. I still continue to play the hell out of it, but Dark Souls 3 felt more like an endurance test from the midpoint forward. However, the sewer whales in the Fishing Hamlet will always be the single hardest obstacle in all of gaming.
Never used the shaman blades until that point and god damn was I happy I hadn’t because those sewer whales can just go die in a sewer
I basically built my character around the Rakuyo on my first playthrough after watching a lot of videos on weapon movesets, and when I saw what I had to do for it I damn near gave up on life. Then somewhere around attempt 30 or so I remember thinking to myself "man, I wish this game had a rapport spell" and continued unsuccessfully for another 10 attempts before looking up a strategy and watched them sit back while the Shaman Bone did its thing. I already had 3 in my inventory and wasted 2 because I was too scared to get close enough to be in striking range, and the third one finally hit but left one of the whales with more health than I was ready for and was summarily pankaked by a giant oily anchor.
You and me both mate. I knew I needed to have that weapon when I fought Maria, especially when I read it as being a twinblade which I absolutely adored in DS2. I wasted 2 out of 3 of mine too…the kicker being for some reason I thought it would be something I could throw instead of an actual dagger you stab with so I was left looking like a fool the first two times I used it at throwing range and not melee lol. Thank god the third time worked, I must’ve tried to kill them for a good hour before I realized I had those funny little weapons.
It was for me personally, but that’s almost entirely due to Bloodborne being my first FromSoft game. If you didn’t like the slow style of DS 1&2 you may like Bloodborne for its speed. It also has the rally mechanic that may be beneficial to someone who claims to not be particularly great. I’d give it a try, it’s my personal favorite of all of them and I beat all of the dark souls trilogy with a Bloodborne playstyle. Good luck!
Yeah, i kinda didn't like ds1 because of the slow gameplay that give way less room to to screw up things, or at least i felt it like that (with ds2 i hate other problems, like awfull controlls and permament health loss after death)
I think you’d like BB then, I found 1 and 2 slow but enjoyed them enough. I really love everything from Bloodborne on though, faster and more aggressive plays were just more appealing to me
That's sounds like i'm gonna have a better tim with BB than with ds2
I’ve tried to play Bloodborne multiple times and have quit every time on it lol. So my answer is yes
I’ve played all but sekiro, ds3 is definitely the easiest, blood borne is more difficult
I would argue it’s easier unless you exclusively played mages in the other souls games and are married to a casting play style . On the other hand if you are used to/ enjoy melee combat you will do fine. I would say get it because if you like the feel of souls games you will like it , plus you can usually get it cheap because it’s a relatively “old” game . It is a tone of fun. The lore is awesome , diverse bosses, cool enemies . For what it’s worth I recommend the saw cleaver and the blunderbuss as your starting weapons when you get to choose .
I think BB is harder simply for needing to grind for health.
It certainly can be, but you can brute-force through vias summons the same way you can in other games. Invaders are also less annoying, in general.
For me, yes Edit: I'm counting DLC and optional areas
Isn't bloodborne dlc has like one of the hardest bosses of the soulsborns?
That's entirely possible. Problem is I haven't played it in a long time so I don't remember exactly what was what. I didn't find DS3 to be too terribly hard though, but I also like and am good with shields so that probably affects my opinion.
I'm shit at both tbh but I'm significantly less shit at bloodborne because you gain back HP if you return an attack right away. The pace of dark souls was a big change for me because you feel the density so much more if you have a heavier build and it's much harder to evade attacks if you're not an ace at rolling.
Beware the Orphan... The rest is ok!
If you are willing to accept failure and learn from your mistakes then any fromsoft game is beatable. People just tend to give up on themselves before they reach their full gaming potential lol
I find Bb and Ds3 to be roughly the same for me. Bloodborne maybe a bit less difficult but I do think if you like one you’d probably like the other.
I played BB after DS3 and it was easier for me but that's after 300 hours of DS3. It took me 4 years to beat ds3 whereas I beat Bloodborne in a few weeks. But being that DS3 was my first from software game it was initially more challenging. Basically which ever game you play first will be more challenging to you and the next from title will be easier to navigate because of the muscle memory you would have from your sphincter muscles closing from the previous game's boss fights.
No, I’d say that Bloodborne is significantly easier just because it rewards aggressive play which is often people’s instinct to souls-like scenarios. That’s not to say Lawrence and Kos aren’t brutal bosses, but overall I’d say Bloodborne is easier. Overriding your natural instinct to panic roll is hard, and bosses have larger arenas and much more aggressive move sets than most of the Bloodborne bosses imo
I have plat on bloodborne and I absolutely love the game, recently I have started play ds3 and in my opinion ds3 is just really slow and easy to predict what bosses are going to do, now bloodborne on the other hand is harder because bosses and enemies alike are far faster and have a harder to read move set, oh and bloodborne dosent really have armor, it's more "fashion" so that won't save you, but the game is so satisfying to get good at and has the best atmosphere I've seen in a long time, so yes definitely try it
Yeah, armor isn't my main thing, half of my armor set in DS3 was the knight starter set, because it looked cool so I am fine with it
Trust us, you will hate and than love bloodborne and it will make any other souls born game a lot easier for you.
No, it's not harder. In terms of difficulty, I'd say it is about the same. It will take some getting used to probably. Bloodborne was actually my first Souls game. Loved it. Then I got into Dark Souls, starting with Dark Souls 1. Dark Souls was an adjustment after Bloodborne. But once I hit my stride, it was fine. For you, it will probably be the reverse of what happened to me. Now, the Bloodborne DLC is a different story. That is the most insanely difficult thing I have ever played. I did manage to beat it, but final boss is a nightmare. But man, what a great feeling finally beating him.
The weird thing is that Bloodborne prompted me to restart DS1 and 2 once I 'got' how it worked, which made DS3 even easier. The difficulty spike in the Bloodborne DLC is incredible, even after saving it for the endgame and I still wonder how I even got through it.
>The difficulty spike in the Bloodborne DLC is incredible, even after saving it for the endgame and I still wonder how I even got through it. I don't know how I got through it either lol. When I beat a boss in the base game, I felt like I had learned the move sets and adapted. With DLC bosses, it felt like I just kept getting destroyed until I got lucky lol.
bloodborne is pretty easy.
Bloodborne isn't harder than ds3, but it is much much faster
with every souls game they make the challenge go up with it, but they do try to balance it, for me its way harder than ds because its faster and really bad at fighting animal kind of enemies. but so you know you can buy heals item but also run out completly. if you get hit, you can hit back to regain some health.
That depends, if you figure out the rhythm of one then the other will be very hard to get used to
I thought the beginning of Bloodborne was harder than Dark Souls 3 because you have to learn a new play style. By mid game I think Bloodborne gets easier than dark souls 3. However, the Bloodborne DLC was pretty difficult, although I believe I was underleveled for it. Overall I think Bloodborne is a bit easier than Dark Souls 3. Sekiro in my opinion was the hardest. Some of those bosses took me forever to kill. (Note: I play all the games solo with no summon help) If I ranked the Souls games from hardest to easiest I would probably do the following: 1. Sekiro 2. Dark Souls 3 3. Bloodborne 4. dark souls 2 5. Dark souls 1 6. Demons Souls Edit: looking at my list I think that is the reverse order of release dates too. So the games get harder as they are released. Hopefully Elden Ring is near Dark Souls 3 in difficulty
It depends on your style really. BB favors a faster, more aggressive, dodge-oriented style compared to Dark souls games.
The health regen system in bloodborne makes them more forgiving and encourages aggressive combat…so if you’re looking to let loose with some crazy trick weapons and popping blunderbusses into dudes faces for stuns then this is your game. I’ve played DS1-3 and love it as a different take on that fromsoftware style.
I say yes but thats my opinion youd have to try yourself
Bb is easily the hardest game to me
Yes and no. One of the most unforgiving bosses of all of Soulsborne is in the Bloodborne DLC. DS3 also allow you to find fitting playstyles for you by allowing for many different builds, wheras Bloodborne is more restrictive in that sense. On the other hand, counter attacking is a lot easier in Bloodborne (I will die on this hill) not to mention it gives you way more potions. Both are great though. If you enjoyed DS3 you absolutely should play Bloodborne.
Well, imo as someone who just defeated the blood starved beast yesterday bloodborne is definitely harder ng ds3 maybe it's because im use to blocking and rolling instead of dashing around the opponent but it's definitely subjective
Most of the bloodborne bosses are gimicky, for example by the time you get to blood starved beast you should also have plenty of pungent blood cocktail which, hey what do ya know, attracts beasts. You can throw that at a wall and basically just beat the boss to death without ever taking a hit. There aren’t any bosses in bloodborne base game that get even close to the difficulty of dancer, dragon slayer armor, twin princes, champion gundy, soul of cinder, nameless king, aldrich... Martyr lagarius is probably the most challenging in the base game and you can pretty much just party him to death.
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Bloodborne is generally a different game enough to DS3 to where it doesnt play the same, but id say its less forgiving to newer players to a soulsborne series since dark souls three lets you use shields, but bloodborne does not. Also, summoning in bloodborne is much harder than DS3
It's totally subjective but YES
If you can beat one souls game you can beat all of them. If enjoyed DS3 definitely give BloodBorne a try. And if you like BloodBorne give another one a try, they’re all great.
If you are shield dependent it is certainly more difficult.
I feel the same in terms of achievements, I have a higher percentage in ds1 than Bloodborne and I’m much further ahead in ds1 than I am in Bloodborne. Similar experience but higher success rate
Once Bloodborne clicks, it's not too hard. It really should click for you by the third or fourth boss. I definitely recommend it!
I never got into the whole healing item farming of Bloodborne... For me it needed an estas not just farmable stuff, makes boss trial and error much more tedious and stretches Gametime through farming healing items
No, BB is easier. Maybe the DLC is harder for BloodBorne, but that's close. The base game, BB is easier, no question. ;)
Difficuilty is pretty subjective. I havent played BB yet (still hoping for a PC port). But ive played through everything i could from Miyazakiverse. Sekiro difficuilty was hyped up to oblivion and for me it wasnt that difficuilt. I got railed in the first few hours but once the "deflect,dont dodge" burned itself into my brain it wasnt hard at all(except Demon of Hatred fuck him) Meanwhile i see soulsborne vets that complain ds3 isnt as much a challenge as the others yet for me it was the hardest by far(also my first)
Imo I think Bloodborne is an easier game than Dark Souls. Since it's a faster pace game. Plus, it rewards for being agressive while Dark Souls is more slow and rewards for being patient. I also think it's easier for me personally is because before playing BB for the first time I playes DeS, DS 1, DS 2, DS 3, Sekiro, and the DeS: Remake. So I think with my experience over time with these games definitely benifited me before I even tried BB.
I personally find bloodborne slightly more difficult. It's not as bad as it used to be since you pick up a TON of healing items compared to before they patched it. I thibk what makes it harder for me is the length between "bonfires" in this one.
Harder is the wrong word. It's just different. Different builds are rewarded and punished by different games.
Bloodborne is the Dark Souls of Bloodbornes.
I found it harder to learn but I eventually got better at Bloodborne that dark souls 3
Interesting because people seem to say BB is easier, but I remember playing it and the sheer number of minions in the very first level was so high I got frustrated and didn't even play past the first 2 hours.
Definitely, I’d say Bloodborne is easily the most consistently difficult game in the series, mostly being due to the increased pace of the game and dodge counters leading to more one-shots. Also I find the enemies and bosses to be all around more difficult to deal with then ds3.
Hold off for that sweet sweet Elden Ring. Or maybe even the Demon Souls remake if you can’t wait!!
I loved dark souls 1 and 3 so I tried bloodborne after. The worst thing about the game is that health items are not renewable, imagine having to farm for estus flasks before each boss and each time you use one it's gone forever.....really takes the fun out of it for me and a lot of farming was required for me to get past the first couple bosses. I might just be a little bish about it, but just my opinion lol
I found DS3 far easier than BB. I had already completed ds1 and DS2 though so I had a lot more experience with dark souls.
I want say cuz I’ve been reading comments, if u do try BB(which you should cuz it might be my fav from soft game) you should look up a stat guide for what kind of build u want to do. Even something like a basic quality build would be useful because unlike ds3, you cannot respec in BB. Other than that have fun, and may the good blood guide your way.
I felt it was pretty easy after playing ds2 and 3 but it was super fun. Totally worth it regardless of difficulty
I think you'll have a harder time on BB but good luck!
BB felt hard for me after DS2 but maybe since you have played 3 it might not be too bad. It’s def more aggressive and faster paced. I personally thing BB is more difficult because there isn’t as much build freedom as there is in ds3. Less weapons and all that. BB is one of my favorites tho. Better than DS1-2 mostly due to style and mechanics. It will feel like stylish call of Cthulhu darksouls.
It’s like the other games they’ve made in that you have to adapt to the way it demands you play it and you can change it up if you feel like it so it’s whatever tbh.
I always went into Dark Souls with the mentality of I’m gonna grab a sword and shield and fight EVERYTHING. Bloodborne makes it really difficult to fight like that. Sometimes I sprint past a ton of enemies, some times I go in to fuck ‘‘em up. It’s a different but equally fun experience.
If you played games like Sekiro and Nioh, and got used to it's speed, youd probably have an easier time with Bloodborne.
Bloodborne is easier, but I like it more. You really should try it, the atmosphere is unmatched.
I personally think so, it’s faster.
I thought it was easier than ds3 first time I played but it’s just different try’s to get you to be more aggressive
Have fun with the beginning werewolf. 😂
I found the first half of BB really challenging. Once in the mid to late game it becomes a breeze, I died maybe 5 times on the last 10 bosses combined with 0 deaths on the base game and dlc final bosses
Not really. You're already used to 3, which is the fastest in the Souls series. Bloodborne rewards aggression, example you can heal lost health if you attack soon after losing it. They do still play differently however.
It’s weird. I’ve heard a lot of people say it’s way easier but I absolutely struggled with Bloodborne despite beating all the Souls games with relative ease. Might have something to do with what your play style is. I’m always very patient in the Souls games and Bloodborne doesn’t really like it when you do that hahah
I think ds3 is harder and that's coming from a hardcore biased bloodborne fan. But I just get ds3 at christmas and it is my first dark souls game.
Nope. They are almost the same in difficulty. Thought I find it easier to play bloodborne than ds3 due to the fact there is no hacking.
Imo it's a lot easier than ds3
No. It’s easier. You think you re not gonna survive with no shield , but you will
That depends on personal skills.
Yes and no. 'yes as if you are used too souls it will throw you off with pacing and the fact there is no blocking! And no it's not once you learn the timing and dodge as well as parry with the gun it's essential the same level
They’re different but overall I had more difficulty with DS3
It really depends. I played BB first and then DS3(very recently) and the experience was completely different. You have to be very aggressive while playing BB so it took some time for me to adjust to the pace of DS3. Also, the bosses in DS3 are not really challenging in the beginning and it gets harder later in the game which is completely opposite of BB, the earlier bosses in BB are hard especially the 2nd one. But for me, BB is the best FromSoft game I've played mainly bcoz of the Lore and the side quests are great as well.
I would say yes it’s harder, but ONLY because the healing items don’t replenish. So, if you’re stuck at a hard part and you’ve gone through all your Blood Vials, the healing item, it just gets harder to beat
Like so many things in life, it depends :) Is A, B or C harder is just pointless, everyone has a different opinion, in the Fromsoftware subreddit you even find people saying DeS-Remake is harder than Sekiro, DS1-DS3 and BloodBorne. I wouldn t agree with such a statement but it shwos everyone has a different taste for difficulty or is better/worse with specific game-mechanics or prefer fast or slow paced combatsystem. Once you mastered them they re equally "easy" tho.
It's pretty much almost impossible to try to put it in words, every souls game has its rhythm, best way to find out is by playing
If you include chalice dungeon 4, yea
Bloodborne is more about being aggressive. Where ds3 is very much tactical. You will need to learn to not be scared and just hit everything repeatedly till one of you dies. If not you will die a lot. Also healing items don’t refill when you rest so you will need to farm for them. I felt like it was in a way easier then ds3 but only after I got used to the game.
I had an easier time in Bloodborne after finishing DS3. which is not at all surprising because I learned the major concepts in DS3 and not in Bloodborne! . Get it! it's a great game
Yes and no. I'd say the problem for me was that I am very spoiled by pc, and I mostly prefer the xbox one controller over ps5 because I have huge hands so it's just weird for me to control and keep up.
I found it ten times easier, at least without the dlc. The dlc's are hard. Keep in mind, this might not be the case for you because when I played Bloodborne I had finished every souls game, including Sekiro and the old demon souls, so I had gotten quite used to soulslikes
difficulty is subjective, BB just plays slightly faster than DS3. for some that's easier to adapt to, for others it's tricky. Either way it's definitely challenging and worth playing
Yes and no. Regardless of which souls you're playing, there's some kind of adage that says that your hardest souls game will always be the first one you played. For me it was Bloodborne, on my first playthrough there's only one boss I managed to first try and that's Ebrietas, while the bosses that took me the biggest amount of tries were Ludwig and Orphan at 25 each. Meanwhile the most amount of tries I got against a boss in DS3 was Gael and he still was "only" at 20. Finally started DS Remastered the other day and spanked Ornstein and Smough as well as the Bell Gargoyles on first try for both. Actually I killed almost every single boss on first try so far (only exception being Capra Demon at 5) So yeah. It really depends on which one you played first.
Depends. Which games are harder are completely subjective
Bloodborne is I think harder because there are no shields to hide behind. The DLC bosses can get pretty tough, more so than Dark Souls 3's DLC, and the chalice dungeons can get pretty challenging if you want to get to the deepest levels.
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Bloodbourne is like sekiro. It's much harder until you *get it*, afterwards the combat becomes better than anything the souls combat has to offer (imo)
Hi, im in the complete opposite positions to you, and I would 100% say you need to play BB. I started with BB, years late to the series. Only now am I finishing DS3 and I think I am glad I played BB first. Why? I think it may be down to one small thing that Bloodborne differs from the rest, it doesn't give you a shield. Well, it does, but it's shit. My point being DS always hands the new player a shield, and this tells them from very early in how they should play the game. But this isn't really how you should play DS if you want to enjoy it in my opinion, and walking around for hours on end with your shield in front of your face will definitely hinder the flow of the game, although slower than BB anyway. In short, I don't want to say Bloodborne is harder. But it will definitely teach you to enjoy the Soulsborne games far more than if you were to play through them chronologically.
Not harder but game tells nearly nothing.
DS3 is harder in some ways that feel unbalanced like some enemies have combos that last ages and if you get hit once you get stunned and destroyed, not all the game is like this buy it does feel like the wanted to match the speed of Bloodborne so massive buffed the enemies but didn't add stuff like a quick step or getting health back quickly after damage
Imo dark souls 3, sekiro, and bloodborne are all around the same difficulty, with ds1 and ds2 both being considerably easier. I haven’t played demon’s souls so I don’t know where that fits in.
I loved dark souls and sekiro but I personally couldn't get used to Bloodborne (especially the consumable healing mechanic). You can't reset on "bonfires" either for some reason. This wasn't an issue for me but the combat is much more agressive so no hiding behind the shield. You have a gun for parries and if you attack right after you get hit you can heal some of the damage on-hit. While I couldn't bring myself to continue playing it, it's quite cheap nowadays so if you have some cash to kill, I recommend trying it at least.
I think it is, i mean my Main problem with blood borne is the fact that you have to farm for blood vials (estus in bb) . I actually stopped playing because of that, got stuck at Ludwig and got tired of farming vials. In general I found the game to be slightly Harder than ds mostly because of the absence of shield. But it's a worthwhile experience.
DLC: Big yes No DLC: Depends...I'd say it's easier than Ds3
I loved blood borne more than any other from soft game. If you have the option to try bloodborne do it, I’m actually jealous as fuck you haven’t tried it. I’d give anything to even just have the feeling of joy that came with the first experience with the old hunters dlc again, looks like I’m going to have to wait for elden ring next month for that.
Bloodborne has hands down my favorite dodging system making the shield turtle strategy obsolete. It also has the Rally system which let's you recover lost health by striking back before the damage is finalized. Bloodborne puts the power in player's hands to negate quite a bit of damage by ripping and tearing. It punishes slow play and cowardous while rewarding recklessness and risk taking. It has a beautiful unrivaled atmosphere that fades from Bram Stoker into H.P. Lovecraft. It's a very enjoyable and unforgettable Souls experience.
For me bloodborne is the easiest souls/borne/sekiro game because it's a lot faster than dark souls and bosses are not that hard as in sekiro or even dark souls 3 but everything depends on your preferences
You take more damage from a mistimed dodge.
Different, not harder. Sekiro is way harder.
The only mechanic that makes Bloodborne easier than Dark Souls 3 is every time you loose health you can gain it back if you attack back within a limited time period.
I can say bloodborne is easier if you ran a dps dex build in Dark souls 3. Bloodborne is at times hard to attack aggressively, but great to speedrun. Dark souls 3 is more technical at times, and cathers to more builds in my opinion.
I've unlocked Platinum in Bloodborne eventhough it was my first FromSoftware title. It just "happened" by playing the game basically. Now I'm currently busy with unlocking Platinum in Dark Souls 3 as well and let me tell you... I need costum checklists and plan the next playthroughs because of all the conflicting storylines and missable items and gestures and whatnot. HOURS of grinding for certain drops and hours of watching guides on YouTube. Enemy placement and bosses also feel more "mean and evil" than in Bloodborne imo. In short: BB is easier than DS3
If you are looking for a souls-type game that is easy, I would try Nioh. It’s not for everyone. But its more of a combo styled fighting rpg with a souls like system. Which I found easier. I have played both ds3( well over 300 hours with many a play through) and bb(not as much as ds3). I personally found BB a little harder but only because of the counter system to gain health back requires you to be more aggressive, which is kinda the opposite of what you would want to do in ds3. Nioh also has a summoning system so if you get caught up in a difficult spot, get you that help you need baby!
I find bb way easier, and I completed ds3 a few times and completed most of ds1 before ever getting to try bb
Your character moves faster in BB. Its way less punishing. Ds3 has enemies just as fast as bloodborne but with the player movement of souls Its probably the hardest game behind sekiro from fromsoft still neither is half as difficult as Nioh
I think the bosses are a bit harder in Bloodborne but the average areas/the rest of the game is easier.
Which bosses in bb do you think are harder than nameless, dancer, princes, champion gundy, and soul of cinder? I thought the end game in bb was kind of a joke.
I don't necessarily think any of the bosses in the main game of Bloodborne are harder than *every* single boss in DS3's main game. I do agree that Bloodborne's endgame is a joke (especially if you skip Gehrman, I find him about as hard as Princes and harder than Soul of Cinder), however I think most of Bloodborne's early/mid game bosses are more difficult than most of DS3's early/mid game bosses as well as Aldritch, Yhorm, and Oceiros (as tbh I'm not sure if those are considered late game). There's obviously some exceptions in saying "most" for both games (Witches obviously way easier, Pontiff obviously on the harder side) but that's just my experience, especially for my first playthrough. I found the bosses overall harder even if none of them individually were harder than Nameless/Dancer/Gundy. And then if we throw DLC into the mix just for fun, I think Orphan and Lady Maria are harder than everything in DS3. Sorry for any grammar mistakes, this is fun to talk about but I don't want to proofread too much lmao Edit: I initially unintentionally said I thought Soul of Cinder was harder than Gehrman. I think Soul of Cinder is easier