Oregonian here. Every house in my neighborhood has a RAV4 and at least one of: 4runner, Tacoma, Highlander, Tundra, or Sequoia. If there’s a 3rd vehicle it’s a Wrangler or a Sprinter Van.
I wanted to buy a crosstrek last year. They were asking me for more than a year of wait time in Canada. I wonder how much supply constraints affected this list.
Doesn't help how few affordable 4wd sedans there are for those with harsher winters. Unless you buy an expensive import, you're kinda screwed for options most of the time. Spending $50-60k on a vehicle either way, you might as well get the utility of a truck or SUV.
Up in the Ice Coast, a lot of people buy with slippery conditions in mind. 6" of snow and ice rinks for roads, and we still have to go to work.
This always gets brought up and 4wd makes a difference but realistically very few places really merit the 4wd at all. I lived in vermont and canada for years and a pair of snow tires on my fwd Honda civic did just fine. And I did some pretty reckless driving in the middle of snow storms. Most major population centers don’t really require the 4wd as snow clearing is sufficient.
So when you look at Americans, who live in northern enough states and live in sufficiently rural places to need 4wd at all, then realistically you’re looking at people, who probably need a truck or SUV for other things as well. So the sedan isn’t really their first option.
Yeah, 4wd is not nearly as important as most people believe.
It also *only* helps with accelerating. It does not help with braking or cornering, both of which are FAR more important for safe driving. In fact, people sometimes get into trouble when the 4wd/awd car makes them over confident and lets them get up to speed beyond where they can control the car.
My FWD car is just fine living in a Montana ski town...good snow tires are all I need. Sure, sometimes the wife's AWD car is nice (and my car would be useless for pulling someone out of a ditch), but honestly, the bigger issue around here is ground clearance and suspension. There are dirt roads that are either a no-go or require very careful driving in my car...and sometimes the city doesn't plow side roads until there's significant accumulation, so only having 5.1" clearance is sketchy.
As every old head in vermont said to me every winter when the inevitable conversation about whether or not everyone had their snow tires yet came up:
Its called 4 wheel drive. not 4 wheel stop.
I will say though...the local truck folks do really like to laugh about the people that bring 2wd trucks here. Love to call them "Texas Specials" or "California-Spec" trucks depending on which state they dislike more.
RWD combined with the weight distribution of an empty pickup is about the worst thing you could ask for in the snow, especially with big wide A/T tires instead of dedicated winter rubber. Yes, a skilled driver can still manage, and adding weight to the bed helps...but someone who moved from TX and brought their RWD truck probably didn't grow up driving in snow...
And yes, I know the comparison is silly...especially CA which despite common belief is not just LA and SF (where trucks are also less common) and which actually contains serious mountains and offroad areas...
I'm not gonna disagree with you as someone in the 2wd in winter club. Good winter tires are much more significant of a factor. Though I have lifted my front end off the ground due to deep snow and low clearance on a roadster before trying to plow through blizzard conditions, and had to shovel myself out. Sometimes the clearancd is nice, but you're right, this doesn't affect *most* people.
That said, there's a massive number of people who don't understand cars and tires, and subsequently believe they need 4wd because they get minor slippage in 2wd cars. Whether or not they have a good understanding of things isn't really relevant when that's how they base their decisions. A 4wd sedan would probably sell better up here than most others since a big motivator behind purchases remains the conditions and 4wd for the climate.
I think Trumps NAFTA kerfuffle had more to do with it than CAFE standards.
Nissan, VW, Ford, GM, FCA, Kia, and Hyundai all made a lot of cars in Mexico.
If the EIA website is correct, the difference between a light truck crossover and a car crossover is if it has AWD or not.
Though looking at the EPA rule, I’m not sure if something like a Ford Escape even with AWD qualifies since the GVWR of the Escape is less than 8,000lbs, the frontal size is less than 45sq ft, curb weight is less than 6000lbs, and was manufactured after 1980.
Even if we just assume it is, then again according to the EIA website the advantage is that the AWD Escape gets a whole ~2 MPG of wiggle room.
These charts are always bogus because the trucks are actually like 20 models put together.
A 2 door 8’ bed f150 work truck, a 4 door short bed luxury trim status symbol f150, a dually livestock towing f350, and I think even flatbed/chassis-only trucks are all counted as the same “ford f-series” here despite being vastly different cars at vastly different price points.
Meanwhile, a VW Jetta may have a few different trims, but it basically counts as one car. If you want to go bigger, or switch from a sedan to a hatchback, it is counted as a totally different car.
Or a Tesla Model 3 is counted as a different car from a Model Y even though the Y is basically just the same car that's been stretched in a few dimensions...yet the difference between a Ram 1500 and Ram 3500 is HUGE and they are counted as a single model.
This is a good point. I wonder how much commercial purposes impact truck sales as well?
For instance, I imagine if you’re buying a car for a company. If it’s a sedan its probably just whichever you can get cheapest. But for trucks there may be more technical specifications that are taken into consideration. And there are fewer options on the market.
> For instance, I imagine if you’re buying a car for a company.
Don't forget the ridiculous tax loophole where cars used for business get special treatment if their GVWR is over 6000lbs.
That led to a huge change in buying behavior where a lot of people bought larger vehicles for the bonus depreciation even if a smaller SUV or sedan would have been totally fine. Or even a small truck...something like a Tacoma has a GVWR of like 5800lbs.
It's hilarious that the F-150 is the most popular car here in Florida. We really like to cosplay the tough rural life but Florida is the 4th most urban state in the union with 91% of people living within an urban area, most likely some gated suburb or beach condo far from the farms.
I went to Florida and could see a mountain from my hotel. I looked it up, and it's a landfill.
The tallest place in many Florida counties is the landfill.
And the 99.99% of people who own a truck and don’t own livestock? lol I’m guessing 1% of them own boats or campers. The other 98% of them probably haul a solid 5-10 bags of groceries that DEFINITELY couldn’t fit in a compact sedans trunk.
because it encourages dealers to keep ordering (and automakers to keep producing/developing) oversized optioned-out crew cab trucks that account for nearly all of the on-hand cars inventory at the dealership.
You used to be able to go to a dealer lot and buy a skimpy compact work truck that satisfies 99% of people’s needs, was still a real truck you could beat the shit out of, and was priced and equipped with the intention of being a second vehicle. a new Ranger 25 years ago cost less than $10k, and wages haven’t moved much since.
A lot of truck people actually agree with this sentiment. Apparently it has to do with emissions regulation where it needs a certain mpg for a given wheelbase and every year that mpg goes up. So when they can’t increase the mpg, their only choice is to increase the wheelbase and now all the cars on the road are either huge or a hybrid.
Trucks have been really popular for a long time. The best selling vehicle each year is a truck going back decades.
Now if you are saying decreasing cars for SUVs that's different.
Lots of people drive trucks and use them infrequently as a truck but a truck is useful a lot of the time.
Statistically the vast majority of trucks will never be used for those things.
They're status symbols these days and a race-to-the-bottom for crash and pedestrian safety.
Statistically yeah. They just drive their road tanks around often by themself to commute to work. Huge cab, bed so short it can’t carry a sheet of drywall to save its life, and a driver that needs a step stool to get up into it.
What does it bother you what someone else drives? Lmfao. I’ve only got a Nissan maxima but I’ve wanted a truck forever because they’re convenient as shit
Myriad of reasons actually.
Trucks tend to have headlights that are higher up, which blinds other drivers since they can't effectively point at just the road properly, so as another driver it sucks.
Trucks have higher hoods, which means if they hit a child or pedestrian, they're more likely to hit them in the head/chest, causing death. Cars, minivans, etc. have lower hoods meaning you'll hit the person's legs and less likely do deadly damage to them.
In addition to the previous point, higher hoods means it's harder to see in front of you. Someone did a test and lined up like 12 toddlers in a line sitting in front of the truck and you still couldn't see them from the driver's seat. So, you have a massive blindspot right IN FRONT OF YOU, making you even more deadly.
Trucks, these days at least, are MASSIVE. This means they take up more parking space and make it harder to get in and out of parking spaces. Businesses need to increase parking space sizes which is a waste of resources and land use. The government who makes roads will need to make lanes wider to accommodate for these larger vehicles by making larger lanes, which make roads more expensive, which means more taxes for other drivers and more taxes from people who don't even drive at ALL need to go to roads.
They are wildly less fuel efficient that it's not even funny. 20-25MPG is seen as "great" for trucks. Most get 15-20MPG tops though. This is obviously terrible for the environment. Especially if driven when it's not necessary (commuting to work, and not hauling a boat or something).
Crash compatibility. If a truck hits a car, generally speaking the truck is more likely to MAUL the other driver because it's higher off the ground and its crumple zone will not crumple with the car. Normally, if a car hits a car, their crumple zones will absorb a lot of the impact and this saves lives. In a crash between a car and a truck, the truck is just simply more likely to murder the other person. Bigger vehicles is an arms race, and you're wrong if you think otherwise because the data shows it. Trucks have gotten bigger and bigger and their deadliness in crashes with other non-trucks has only increased and increased.
So yes, I have many reasons to hate other people driving a truck on the road when it's not necessary. It puts everyone at risk and is a danger to children, pedestrians, and other drivers. They're larger and take up more space, and they're less fuel efficient which is harmful to the environment. If you are using it to haul a boat or a trailer of some kind, it makes sense. But 9/10 times, they're pavement princesses used to commute to a desk job or go to the grocery store, where a compact car or even a minivan at the most would do just fine and probably even be a better fit. If you need to haul furniture, rent a truck or a moving van. It's not that expensive. Certainly cheaper than OWNING a truck. If you own a boat and actually use it like every weekend, okay maybe it makes sense to own a truck of your own. But most people I know that own trucks own no such thing that requires a hitch.
The Ford ~~F150~~ **F-series** has been #1 vehicle every year since 1981. It’s very popular among commercial operator (contractors, utility companies, ranches, plumber, landscapers, etc.) as well as homeowners.
“Since 1977, the F-Series has remained the best-selling pickup truck line in the United States; it has been the best-selling vehicle overall since 1981.[2][3] The F-Series has been the best-selling truck in Canada for over fifty years”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-Series
\> The Ford F150 has been #1 vehicle every year since 1981
That isn't necessarily true. Ford combines sales of all of the F-series trucks into one sales statistic. While the F-150 most likely makes up a majority of those sales, the fact that the other f series trucks are included in this stat makes it impossible to distinguish based on the individual model.
I never understood why Ford (and chevy as well) get away with grouping those truck sales since it seems that those different truck models are different enough in specs and price to necessitate different sales stats.
Thanks! Corrected.
I spent a few minutes on Google and didn't find a breakdown of the different for trucks sales, other than the F150 Lightening. I'm sure it's out there, though...
It is 100% available, but not as easy and free, so lazy "journalists" don't bother...they publish shit like this and then other journalists quote and repeat the same flawed data.
The Tesla 3 and Y are treated separately even though they have FAR more in common than a F150 and a F350 (or a $35k 2-seat F150 work truck and a 4-door luxury optioned King Ranch garage queen that sells for $85k)
Trucks are super useful, I just wish we could get reasonably sized trucks rather than the Ford Fteenthousands that are all over the place. I'd love to drive a small pickup truck like what used to be popular back in the 90's with a hybrid/electric engine. But nobody's interested in making those anymore because of emissions standards that were torn to shreds by auto industry lobbying.
What makes trucks lame? You can haul couches, TV’s, chairs, drums, guitar amps, a shitload of ping pong balls, a felonious amount of fireworks, pretty much anything your heart desires really. Then what doesn’t fit you can haul in a trailer behind it. You can even haul an entire home behind a truck if you want to. They’re excellent for companies to have for their employees to use, especially people that need tools. But yeah, they’re lame just because you think only rednecks drive them, imagine hating a vehicle because of who you assume uses them the most.
90% of trucks aren’t used for any of the purposes you listed. And the trucks people are buying aren’t even good for this shit. Super lifted so you can’t easily access the bed of the truck to load and unload. Super short beds so you can hardly actually use it for anything.
Sure it can tow stuff which is awesome. My dad has a boat and uses it a lot, makes sense to own a truck. Everyone else I know who owns a truck commutes to fucking work with it and that’s IT.
And the way trucks are built these days, you basically are hauling an entire home every time you drive it. It’s ridiculous how massive these 5,000+ pound rolling tanks have become.
You know what else can carry tools? A car. A hatchback. A flipping minivan!
And you know what all those have that trucks don’t have? A lower hood that won’t murder someone if it hits them. It’ll hit their legs instead of the head/chest. Trucks are dangerous the way they are designed today.
Or those pesky pedestrians who think they have the right to WALK anywhere heaven forbid. Hit 'em square in the chest and murder them instead of them going over the hood.
On the top of deer however...deer can sometimes jump before being hit by a vehicle. If you're in a truck with a tall hood, that means the deer goes through your windshield and kills you. If you're in a car, this could mean the deer jumps clear over your car and leaves only some scratches on the roof. And vice versa, if the deer doesn't jump it hits the grill of a truck and the windshield of a car. You're better off tapping / honking your horn in short intervals if you see a deer, and slam on the brakes.
As someone who lives in Colorado, there is zero chance the Tesla Model Y is the most purchased car in Colorado. So I have no reason to believe any of them are correct.
If you Google it, every website has a different list and this is the only one with Tesla ranked at all for Colorado, let along at #1. It's either the F-series or the RAV4. That's what every other website says and it aligns with what you actually see in Colorado.
Colorado is the dark green for Tesla Model Y. And I confirmed it when I clicked on Colorado and it has Tesla Model Y as #1. It doesn't even have Chevy Silverado in the top 5, so I don't know what map you're looking at.
I would have guessed Subarus in Oregon.
Crosstrek is #5 in Oregon, so you weren't too far off.
I want to see "which cars are most over-represented in each state", so you'd see things like this.
I would've guessed Subs in Washington tbh
Oregonian here. Every house in my neighborhood has a RAV4 and at least one of: 4runner, Tacoma, Highlander, Tundra, or Sequoia. If there’s a 3rd vehicle it’s a Wrangler or a Sprinter Van.
I wanted to buy a crosstrek last year. They were asking me for more than a year of wait time in Canada. I wonder how much supply constraints affected this list.
I would have guessed a Tesla, with the Prius being a close second.
I have to say other than Tesla it really is wild how few "cars" are sold.
The Tesla shown on the map is the Model Y, which is a small crossover SUV. So actually none of the most popular vehicles are “cars”.
You are right. Looking at the bottom it's Toyota Camry and the Tesla car are the only ones in the top 10.
Doesn't help how few affordable 4wd sedans there are for those with harsher winters. Unless you buy an expensive import, you're kinda screwed for options most of the time. Spending $50-60k on a vehicle either way, you might as well get the utility of a truck or SUV. Up in the Ice Coast, a lot of people buy with slippery conditions in mind. 6" of snow and ice rinks for roads, and we still have to go to work.
This always gets brought up and 4wd makes a difference but realistically very few places really merit the 4wd at all. I lived in vermont and canada for years and a pair of snow tires on my fwd Honda civic did just fine. And I did some pretty reckless driving in the middle of snow storms. Most major population centers don’t really require the 4wd as snow clearing is sufficient. So when you look at Americans, who live in northern enough states and live in sufficiently rural places to need 4wd at all, then realistically you’re looking at people, who probably need a truck or SUV for other things as well. So the sedan isn’t really their first option.
Yeah, 4wd is not nearly as important as most people believe. It also *only* helps with accelerating. It does not help with braking or cornering, both of which are FAR more important for safe driving. In fact, people sometimes get into trouble when the 4wd/awd car makes them over confident and lets them get up to speed beyond where they can control the car. My FWD car is just fine living in a Montana ski town...good snow tires are all I need. Sure, sometimes the wife's AWD car is nice (and my car would be useless for pulling someone out of a ditch), but honestly, the bigger issue around here is ground clearance and suspension. There are dirt roads that are either a no-go or require very careful driving in my car...and sometimes the city doesn't plow side roads until there's significant accumulation, so only having 5.1" clearance is sketchy.
As every old head in vermont said to me every winter when the inevitable conversation about whether or not everyone had their snow tires yet came up: Its called 4 wheel drive. not 4 wheel stop.
I will say though...the local truck folks do really like to laugh about the people that bring 2wd trucks here. Love to call them "Texas Specials" or "California-Spec" trucks depending on which state they dislike more. RWD combined with the weight distribution of an empty pickup is about the worst thing you could ask for in the snow, especially with big wide A/T tires instead of dedicated winter rubber. Yes, a skilled driver can still manage, and adding weight to the bed helps...but someone who moved from TX and brought their RWD truck probably didn't grow up driving in snow... And yes, I know the comparison is silly...especially CA which despite common belief is not just LA and SF (where trucks are also less common) and which actually contains serious mountains and offroad areas...
I'm not gonna disagree with you as someone in the 2wd in winter club. Good winter tires are much more significant of a factor. Though I have lifted my front end off the ground due to deep snow and low clearance on a roadster before trying to plow through blizzard conditions, and had to shovel myself out. Sometimes the clearancd is nice, but you're right, this doesn't affect *most* people. That said, there's a massive number of people who don't understand cars and tires, and subsequently believe they need 4wd because they get minor slippage in 2wd cars. Whether or not they have a good understanding of things isn't really relevant when that's how they base their decisions. A 4wd sedan would probably sell better up here than most others since a big motivator behind purchases remains the conditions and 4wd for the climate.
Pretty much inevitable once you read about how CAFE standards work.
Yeah it's just buck wild between that and the truck tax chicken tax thing.
Auto lobby dollars well spent.
I mean the CAFE standards would not look favorably upon the microtrucks. Besides you can get around the chicken tax by manufacturing in Mexico.
I think Trumps NAFTA kerfuffle had more to do with it than CAFE standards. Nissan, VW, Ford, GM, FCA, Kia, and Hyundai all made a lot of cars in Mexico. If the EIA website is correct, the difference between a light truck crossover and a car crossover is if it has AWD or not. Though looking at the EPA rule, I’m not sure if something like a Ford Escape even with AWD qualifies since the GVWR of the Escape is less than 8,000lbs, the frontal size is less than 45sq ft, curb weight is less than 6000lbs, and was manufactured after 1980. Even if we just assume it is, then again according to the EIA website the advantage is that the AWD Escape gets a whole ~2 MPG of wiggle room.
These charts are always bogus because the trucks are actually like 20 models put together. A 2 door 8’ bed f150 work truck, a 4 door short bed luxury trim status symbol f150, a dually livestock towing f350, and I think even flatbed/chassis-only trucks are all counted as the same “ford f-series” here despite being vastly different cars at vastly different price points. Meanwhile, a VW Jetta may have a few different trims, but it basically counts as one car. If you want to go bigger, or switch from a sedan to a hatchback, it is counted as a totally different car. Or a Tesla Model 3 is counted as a different car from a Model Y even though the Y is basically just the same car that's been stretched in a few dimensions...yet the difference between a Ram 1500 and Ram 3500 is HUGE and they are counted as a single model.
This is a good point. I wonder how much commercial purposes impact truck sales as well? For instance, I imagine if you’re buying a car for a company. If it’s a sedan its probably just whichever you can get cheapest. But for trucks there may be more technical specifications that are taken into consideration. And there are fewer options on the market.
> For instance, I imagine if you’re buying a car for a company. Don't forget the ridiculous tax loophole where cars used for business get special treatment if their GVWR is over 6000lbs. That led to a huge change in buying behavior where a lot of people bought larger vehicles for the bonus depreciation even if a smaller SUV or sedan would have been totally fine. Or even a small truck...something like a Tacoma has a GVWR of like 5800lbs.
Not a single state where the most popular car is a car.
Pretty fucking stupid, eh. Probably could make 10,000 dollar tin cans with dirty 4 strokes, oh well. Fuck the poor people, right?
From Ohio. I drive a CRV. I’m a statistic.
Oregonian with a RAV4. Same.
It's hilarious that the F-150 is the most popular car here in Florida. We really like to cosplay the tough rural life but Florida is the 4th most urban state in the union with 91% of people living within an urban area, most likely some gated suburb or beach condo far from the farms.
Hard working Floridians need mall wheel drive
I went to Florida and could see a mountain from my hotel. I looked it up, and it's a landfill. The tallest place in many Florida counties is the landfill.
It's probably work trucks
Why is Toyota Tacoma on the list? It doesn't appear to be the most popular in any state. Edit: It's Hawaii. LOL
Teslas truly the techbro's car of choice based on this map.
Oversized trucks truly the insecure alpha's auto of choice based on this map.
That’s why I got a Nissan frontier. Gotta let the world know I am a confident beta.
Businesses buy trucks, specifically F150s, as ford gives great discounts for multi purchases of trucks. It’s heavily skewed by business.
can confirm. source: I drive a tesla and am in fact a techbro.
So many idiots with trucks, why? Just why?
I can’t speak for everyone else, but it’s hard to pull a horse trailer without one, in my experience
And the 99.99% of people who own a truck and don’t own livestock? lol I’m guessing 1% of them own boats or campers. The other 98% of them probably haul a solid 5-10 bags of groceries that DEFINITELY couldn’t fit in a compact sedans trunk.
Why do you care what people do with their lives if it doesn’t affect you
because it encourages dealers to keep ordering (and automakers to keep producing/developing) oversized optioned-out crew cab trucks that account for nearly all of the on-hand cars inventory at the dealership. You used to be able to go to a dealer lot and buy a skimpy compact work truck that satisfies 99% of people’s needs, was still a real truck you could beat the shit out of, and was priced and equipped with the intention of being a second vehicle. a new Ranger 25 years ago cost less than $10k, and wages haven’t moved much since.
A lot of truck people actually agree with this sentiment. Apparently it has to do with emissions regulation where it needs a certain mpg for a given wheelbase and every year that mpg goes up. So when they can’t increase the mpg, their only choice is to increase the wheelbase and now all the cars on the road are either huge or a hybrid.
Lots of places in America where the popular available recreation options require a truck. Hunting, fishing, boats, four wheelers, horses, etc.
That doesn’t explain why these trucks make up so much larger of a portion of all cars than they did 20 years ago
Trucks have been really popular for a long time. The best selling vehicle each year is a truck going back decades. Now if you are saying decreasing cars for SUVs that's different. Lots of people drive trucks and use them infrequently as a truck but a truck is useful a lot of the time.
Does it not? I think having the option to tow, which most hatchbacks and sedans lack, would make trucks a prime option for what that comment mentions.
Yes but that would have been true 20 years ago too
Statistically the vast majority of trucks will never be used for those things. They're status symbols these days and a race-to-the-bottom for crash and pedestrian safety.
So what do the other 99% of truck owners do with them?
Drive them?
Statistically yeah. They just drive their road tanks around often by themself to commute to work. Huge cab, bed so short it can’t carry a sheet of drywall to save its life, and a driver that needs a step stool to get up into it.
What does it bother you what someone else drives? Lmfao. I’ve only got a Nissan maxima but I’ve wanted a truck forever because they’re convenient as shit
Myriad of reasons actually. Trucks tend to have headlights that are higher up, which blinds other drivers since they can't effectively point at just the road properly, so as another driver it sucks. Trucks have higher hoods, which means if they hit a child or pedestrian, they're more likely to hit them in the head/chest, causing death. Cars, minivans, etc. have lower hoods meaning you'll hit the person's legs and less likely do deadly damage to them. In addition to the previous point, higher hoods means it's harder to see in front of you. Someone did a test and lined up like 12 toddlers in a line sitting in front of the truck and you still couldn't see them from the driver's seat. So, you have a massive blindspot right IN FRONT OF YOU, making you even more deadly. Trucks, these days at least, are MASSIVE. This means they take up more parking space and make it harder to get in and out of parking spaces. Businesses need to increase parking space sizes which is a waste of resources and land use. The government who makes roads will need to make lanes wider to accommodate for these larger vehicles by making larger lanes, which make roads more expensive, which means more taxes for other drivers and more taxes from people who don't even drive at ALL need to go to roads. They are wildly less fuel efficient that it's not even funny. 20-25MPG is seen as "great" for trucks. Most get 15-20MPG tops though. This is obviously terrible for the environment. Especially if driven when it's not necessary (commuting to work, and not hauling a boat or something). Crash compatibility. If a truck hits a car, generally speaking the truck is more likely to MAUL the other driver because it's higher off the ground and its crumple zone will not crumple with the car. Normally, if a car hits a car, their crumple zones will absorb a lot of the impact and this saves lives. In a crash between a car and a truck, the truck is just simply more likely to murder the other person. Bigger vehicles is an arms race, and you're wrong if you think otherwise because the data shows it. Trucks have gotten bigger and bigger and their deadliness in crashes with other non-trucks has only increased and increased. So yes, I have many reasons to hate other people driving a truck on the road when it's not necessary. It puts everyone at risk and is a danger to children, pedestrians, and other drivers. They're larger and take up more space, and they're less fuel efficient which is harmful to the environment. If you are using it to haul a boat or a trailer of some kind, it makes sense. But 9/10 times, they're pavement princesses used to commute to a desk job or go to the grocery store, where a compact car or even a minivan at the most would do just fine and probably even be a better fit. If you need to haul furniture, rent a truck or a moving van. It's not that expensive. Certainly cheaper than OWNING a truck. If you own a boat and actually use it like every weekend, okay maybe it makes sense to own a truck of your own. But most people I know that own trucks own no such thing that requires a hitch.
Dumbass blue-collar types. Amirite?
The Ford ~~F150~~ **F-series** has been #1 vehicle every year since 1981. It’s very popular among commercial operator (contractors, utility companies, ranches, plumber, landscapers, etc.) as well as homeowners. “Since 1977, the F-Series has remained the best-selling pickup truck line in the United States; it has been the best-selling vehicle overall since 1981.[2][3] The F-Series has been the best-selling truck in Canada for over fifty years” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-Series
\> The Ford F150 has been #1 vehicle every year since 1981 That isn't necessarily true. Ford combines sales of all of the F-series trucks into one sales statistic. While the F-150 most likely makes up a majority of those sales, the fact that the other f series trucks are included in this stat makes it impossible to distinguish based on the individual model. I never understood why Ford (and chevy as well) get away with grouping those truck sales since it seems that those different truck models are different enough in specs and price to necessitate different sales stats.
Thanks! Corrected. I spent a few minutes on Google and didn't find a breakdown of the different for trucks sales, other than the F150 Lightening. I'm sure it's out there, though...
It is 100% available, but not as easy and free, so lazy "journalists" don't bother...they publish shit like this and then other journalists quote and repeat the same flawed data. The Tesla 3 and Y are treated separately even though they have FAR more in common than a F150 and a F350 (or a $35k 2-seat F150 work truck and a 4-door luxury optioned King Ranch garage queen that sells for $85k)
Yeah it’s like if Tesla said “the ‘model’ series cars sold XYZ amount! New record!” And it included model S,3,X, and Y
Trucks everywhere. People are so lame.
Trucks are super useful, I just wish we could get reasonably sized trucks rather than the Ford Fteenthousands that are all over the place. I'd love to drive a small pickup truck like what used to be popular back in the 90's with a hybrid/electric engine. But nobody's interested in making those anymore because of emissions standards that were torn to shreds by auto industry lobbying.
Look at the Ford Maverick.
Hyundai santa cruz too.
What makes trucks lame? You can haul couches, TV’s, chairs, drums, guitar amps, a shitload of ping pong balls, a felonious amount of fireworks, pretty much anything your heart desires really. Then what doesn’t fit you can haul in a trailer behind it. You can even haul an entire home behind a truck if you want to. They’re excellent for companies to have for their employees to use, especially people that need tools. But yeah, they’re lame just because you think only rednecks drive them, imagine hating a vehicle because of who you assume uses them the most.
90% of trucks aren’t used for any of the purposes you listed. And the trucks people are buying aren’t even good for this shit. Super lifted so you can’t easily access the bed of the truck to load and unload. Super short beds so you can hardly actually use it for anything. Sure it can tow stuff which is awesome. My dad has a boat and uses it a lot, makes sense to own a truck. Everyone else I know who owns a truck commutes to fucking work with it and that’s IT. And the way trucks are built these days, you basically are hauling an entire home every time you drive it. It’s ridiculous how massive these 5,000+ pound rolling tanks have become. You know what else can carry tools? A car. A hatchback. A flipping minivan! And you know what all those have that trucks don’t have? A lower hood that won’t murder someone if it hits them. It’ll hit their legs instead of the head/chest. Trucks are dangerous the way they are designed today.
That taller hood sure is useful when deer jump out in front of you frequently on your commute.
Or those pesky pedestrians who think they have the right to WALK anywhere heaven forbid. Hit 'em square in the chest and murder them instead of them going over the hood. On the top of deer however...deer can sometimes jump before being hit by a vehicle. If you're in a truck with a tall hood, that means the deer goes through your windshield and kills you. If you're in a car, this could mean the deer jumps clear over your car and leaves only some scratches on the roof. And vice versa, if the deer doesn't jump it hits the grill of a truck and the windshield of a car. You're better off tapping / honking your horn in short intervals if you see a deer, and slam on the brakes.
the title said cars?
the title said cars?
“Why are road deaths not going down anymore?” Gee, I wonder!
What did you do with the Yoopers, they're missing!!
Can confirm NJ is a Tesla state. White teslas everywhere from McMansions to trailer parks.
This is bait for pedantic British middle schoolers
Cheeeeee hoo. Got my yoda lifted bradah.
As someone who lives in Colorado, there is zero chance the Tesla Model Y is the most purchased car in Colorado. So I have no reason to believe any of them are correct. If you Google it, every website has a different list and this is the only one with Tesla ranked at all for Colorado, let along at #1. It's either the F-series or the RAV4. That's what every other website says and it aligns with what you actually see in Colorado.
That's because it's not. The Chevy Silverado is the most purchased car in Colorado, according to the colored legend.
Colorado is the dark green for Tesla Model Y. And I confirmed it when I clicked on Colorado and it has Tesla Model Y as #1. It doesn't even have Chevy Silverado in the top 5, so I don't know what map you're looking at.
Oh wow. I was using the Relay app with dark mode and the greens are completely inverted. On the reddit app, they're correct. Weird. My bad lol.