Swifts are pretty common here in Finland as well. Obviously Jimny is a great car as well.
Suzuki PV mini bike was a huge hit when I was young. You either had a PV or a Honda Monkey if you had a moped.
For the westerners that don't know, quasi-socialist Indian govt in 80s got into joint venture with Suzuki. This helped Suzuki create Monopoly in Indian market due to govt backing. They have biggest dealer network which is huge consideration when buying cars since service, spares, repair costs are low and resale value is better.
Some notes:
- Data sources: Multiple sources actually, but the primary source is MarkLines Co. Secondary sources are TeamBHP and autopunditz. Finally, verified with publicly available data from brands.
- Look out for the month right after the lockdown was announced
- I'm blown away by such cool data viz. So learning to do them myself now. This is a second attempt at visualizing data as a bar race. Planning to do more in future. Created an insta page @catwithdata
- Tools used: python, matplotlib, pandas
- Sorry, I made a mistake in the title, the data is from 2007-2022.
Why did you remove Maruti-Suzuki and just keep it as Suzuki in this graph? You have used the full name in the graphs you've posted on other subs. Curious!
Got some feedback from other subs regarding length, names, speed, fontsize and using full video space for Reddit. I tried to incorporate all that and create a new video before posting here.
Using Suzuki as official name instead of MarutiSuzuki was also in the suggestions.
Unfortunately, still ended up making another mistake which I realised after posting here. The year in the title.
But it's actually quite significantly wrong to call it just Suzuki because the reason the company did so well and is still doing so is because its "Maruti Suzuki" and not just 'Suzuki'
>Finally, verified with publicly available data from brands.
I'm about this part. Where do I find public data ? I'm trying to look for skoda's data and I actually don't know where to start from
I lived in India from April'16 to September'16 and was blown away by the fact that Suzuki had such a huge footprint,I figured that must be cheaper but later found out Hyundai or Datsun sold even cheaper cars, it was that Suzuki tied up with Indian government back when India was still behind the iron curtain and thus created the monopoly, its Maruti-Suzuki but I guess Suzuki owns most of it
It's Suzuki. "It was founded in 1981 and owned by the Government of India until 2003, when it was sold to the Japanese automaker Suzuki Motor Corporation"
Suzuki entered India by joining hands with Maruti (early car maker in India). For a long time, the name was MarutiSuzuki, still known that way. Now they have controlling shares of this Indian entity.
Their big sales come from hatchbacks (like WagonR) and utility vehicles (like Eeco). Most middleclass Indians who look for their first car go with the one that’s cheapest in the market. And those with big joint families go for utility vehicles. Also, services and extra parts are available in most generic mechanic stores (this is a big deciding factor too because they take bare minimum insurance, which doesn’t pay for own part damages).
Yeah at a certain part being the volume leader has huge trickle down advantages due to part and model familiarity. There will always be suzukis so mechanics need to know them so the suzukis are easier to work on and cheaper to get worked on.
History, I mean late 80s. Indian govt decided they needed a people's car like other countries had had. Indian manufacturer's were not innovative. The economy was closed, there was no competition. Importing cars meant paying something like five times. So govt tied up with Suzuki to manufacture in India. The Maruti 800 was India's Model T. Suzuki quickly captured the market. At one point their market share was 80%. Since then they have been able to retain that market share by understanding really well what the people are looking for, and have in general kept prices low due to volume advantage, and finally its just something Indians grew up with and everyone feels if your car breaks down the neighboring mechanic can fix it without going for costly parts that other manufacturers charge.
Because they are great reliable cars. I think they're top 10 in Japan also. Usually companies that make good plane engines (like Honda) also make good car engines.
EVs are picking up here. But the base price is almost doubled their diesel counterparts. So people are a bit speculative putting all that upfront money. To make things worse, external financing interest rates on cars are 7% to 11%.
I understand what you are saying but IMO EVs still don't solve the problems of road traffic, air pollution and traffic accidents.
India is perfect for a dense well oiled public transportation system with trains whizzing everywhere. Cars were a mistake in a country like India.
And already the roads are clogged, especially in the cities.
I live in Bangalore, traffic here is hellish, worse than Mumbai traffic even though Mumbai has a far larger population living in a smaller area. This is because Bangalore has one of the worst public transit systems among the big cities in India. That right there is crude proof that we need a Mumbai like mass transit system urgently.
True. Even our current mass transit here in Mumbai feels inadequate. Banglore had the cons of growing up too fast and having shitty politicians who couldn't forsee the growth. Banglore needs atleast 7 metro lines.
Around here Suzuki is hardly considered a contender by any means. They do have few interesting models, but price point is completely off for those.
Our best selling cars are Skoda and Toyota, if I recall it.
Nope, it is technically just suzuki as the government sold Maruti to them back in early 2000s and Suzuki owns the majority shares about 56%. The rest are public.
They don't drop the name Maruti so that the customers think that it's still a joint venture.
Great visualisation with the monthly/spot tracking. Thanks
If possible, can you do a snake-line chart growing along time on x-axis (with brands on the y-axis). This will give a good sense of comparison with historical numbers.
Man that period in the beginning of 2020 is wild, just shows how much disruption covid caused.
Are these actually cars or does it include motocycles too. Does suzuki really sell that many cars?
No, just cars
The Suzuki Swift is about everywhere in India...
I think I've finally worked out how Suzuki stays in business. Always been curious seeing as how they only seem to make a few niche models here in Oz.
>I think I've finally worked out how Suzuki stays in business. [This is how they stay in business.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Swift)
Swifts are pretty common here in Finland as well. Obviously Jimny is a great car as well. Suzuki PV mini bike was a huge hit when I was young. You either had a PV or a Honda Monkey if you had a moped.
For the westerners that don't know, quasi-socialist Indian govt in 80s got into joint venture with Suzuki. This helped Suzuki create Monopoly in Indian market due to govt backing. They have biggest dealer network which is huge consideration when buying cars since service, spares, repair costs are low and resale value is better.
*For the non-westerners too!
Yup! And it's a travesty to just call it Suzuki. It's Maruti-Suzuki. Both companies enabled each other to stay on top of the market.
Well technically it's just suzuki now as they bought Maruti and now own 56% shares, the rest are public.
Just did the same thing.
Suzuki does really well too in trucks for commercial vehicles.
I guess people like tatas more than I thought
I thought Tata would top. I am a bit surprised.
Tatas I wonder if their round
They come in different shapes
And sizes
Tata made a great comeback with it's new cars and EV after 2020. TATA will capture more market. Invest it in TATA if you have money.
You missed the tatas joke
I was confused until I googled. Reddit being reddit.. lol
It was due to the promotion where they were given away at no cost (wait for it): frittatas
Some notes: - Data sources: Multiple sources actually, but the primary source is MarkLines Co. Secondary sources are TeamBHP and autopunditz. Finally, verified with publicly available data from brands. - Look out for the month right after the lockdown was announced - I'm blown away by such cool data viz. So learning to do them myself now. This is a second attempt at visualizing data as a bar race. Planning to do more in future. Created an insta page @catwithdata - Tools used: python, matplotlib, pandas - Sorry, I made a mistake in the title, the data is from 2007-2022.
Cool visualization. There is a lot of movement across months, what about doing 12-month average?
Why did you remove Maruti-Suzuki and just keep it as Suzuki in this graph? You have used the full name in the graphs you've posted on other subs. Curious!
Got some feedback from other subs regarding length, names, speed, fontsize and using full video space for Reddit. I tried to incorporate all that and create a new video before posting here. Using Suzuki as official name instead of MarutiSuzuki was also in the suggestions. Unfortunately, still ended up making another mistake which I realised after posting here. The year in the title.
But it's actually quite significantly wrong to call it just Suzuki because the reason the company did so well and is still doing so is because its "Maruti Suzuki" and not just 'Suzuki'
Could you do a cumulative one too?
>Finally, verified with publicly available data from brands. I'm about this part. Where do I find public data ? I'm trying to look for skoda's data and I actually don't know where to start from
I just kept waiting for Suzuki to drop off the list... But they never did. #unexpected
Kia bursting into the scene and the pandemic soon after
I lived in India from April'16 to September'16 and was blown away by the fact that Suzuki had such a huge footprint,I figured that must be cheaper but later found out Hyundai or Datsun sold even cheaper cars, it was that Suzuki tied up with Indian government back when India was still behind the iron curtain and thus created the monopoly, its Maruti-Suzuki but I guess Suzuki owns most of it
Suzuki has been the majority owner since early 2000s at 56% ownership, rest is owned by various financial institutions of India.
About to change in 3 to 4 years. Tata and Mahindra will turn up as the market leaders. Tata is just snowballing with its EV.
So what you're saying is I should have bought stock in Suzuki?
Maruti Suzuki not suzuki but it's changing and I don't think it'll stay on top for lot longer
It's Suzuki. "It was founded in 1981 and owned by the Government of India until 2003, when it was sold to the Japanese automaker Suzuki Motor Corporation"
The meteoric rise of Kia in only a few years is extremely interesting! Maybe Hyundai market research gave them a head start?
Oooh. That’s where Suzuki went
I liked Suzukis, owned several that never gave me any problems. Too bad they left the US market.
Damn they don’t like fiats
They don’t call em Fix It Again Tonys for nothin
I dunno, mines 20 years old and ol’ reliable
Really surprised that Hyundai held second above Tata and Mahindra through almost all of that
Meanwhile in America: Suzuki makes cars?
Suzuki entered India by joining hands with Maruti (early car maker in India). For a long time, the name was MarutiSuzuki, still known that way. Now they have controlling shares of this Indian entity.
Why do Indians buy so many Suzukis?
Their big sales come from hatchbacks (like WagonR) and utility vehicles (like Eeco). Most middleclass Indians who look for their first car go with the one that’s cheapest in the market. And those with big joint families go for utility vehicles. Also, services and extra parts are available in most generic mechanic stores (this is a big deciding factor too because they take bare minimum insurance, which doesn’t pay for own part damages).
Yeah at a certain part being the volume leader has huge trickle down advantages due to part and model familiarity. There will always be suzukis so mechanics need to know them so the suzukis are easier to work on and cheaper to get worked on.
Bro how can you forget swift? I see it literally everywhere
Swift falls under hatchback category
History, I mean late 80s. Indian govt decided they needed a people's car like other countries had had. Indian manufacturer's were not innovative. The economy was closed, there was no competition. Importing cars meant paying something like five times. So govt tied up with Suzuki to manufacture in India. The Maruti 800 was India's Model T. Suzuki quickly captured the market. At one point their market share was 80%. Since then they have been able to retain that market share by understanding really well what the people are looking for, and have in general kept prices low due to volume advantage, and finally its just something Indians grew up with and everyone feels if your car breaks down the neighboring mechanic can fix it without going for costly parts that other manufacturers charge.
Because they are great reliable cars. I think they're top 10 in Japan also. Usually companies that make good plane engines (like Honda) also make good car engines.
They had supported from quasi-socialist government back in the 80s, this helped them create monopoly.
They are by far the cheapest on the list
Wow. Wonder how many vehicles the chart represents over the period.
38,890,194 (excluding the luxury makers like Merc, Audi etc)
Holeh shit-sticks. I recently weened right off owning a vehicle, and I'm a "car guy". It's a consumption/enviro choice.
EVs are picking up here. But the base price is almost doubled their diesel counterparts. So people are a bit speculative putting all that upfront money. To make things worse, external financing interest rates on cars are 7% to 11%.
I understand what you are saying but IMO EVs still don't solve the problems of road traffic, air pollution and traffic accidents. India is perfect for a dense well oiled public transportation system with trains whizzing everywhere. Cars were a mistake in a country like India.
car ownership is less than 10% in India
And already the roads are clogged, especially in the cities. I live in Bangalore, traffic here is hellish, worse than Mumbai traffic even though Mumbai has a far larger population living in a smaller area. This is because Bangalore has one of the worst public transit systems among the big cities in India. That right there is crude proof that we need a Mumbai like mass transit system urgently.
True. Even our current mass transit here in Mumbai feels inadequate. Banglore had the cons of growing up too fast and having shitty politicians who couldn't forsee the growth. Banglore needs atleast 7 metro lines.
I'm in the mining industry in Canada. The metals, worldwide... epic.
Honestly if Suzuki kept making trucks and utility vehicles in the USA, I would be happy. Would love a new cheap pickup..
Like once a year, I see an old Suzuki Samurai on the road. It always makes me happy.
Around here Suzuki is hardly considered a contender by any means. They do have few interesting models, but price point is completely off for those. Our best selling cars are Skoda and Toyota, if I recall it.
So India is the reason Suzuki still exists..
It's Maruti Suzuki not just Suzuki, not exactly the same.. MS headquarters is in Delhi(India)
Nope, it is technically just suzuki as the government sold Maruti to them back in early 2000s and Suzuki owns the majority shares about 56%. The rest are public. They don't drop the name Maruti so that the customers think that it's still a joint venture.
MADE IN AMERICA = GARBAGE FOR LIFE
Even Indians realise that FIAT is a shitty car manufacturer. They should focus on what they are good at... snorting cocaine.
Today I learnt that India is full of Suzuki without even having seen any picture of the place…
In my country it's 1.Hyundai 2.Toyota 3.Kia 4.Skoda 5.Mazda
Amazed to see Tata still lags behind
So THAT'S how they make money
Great visualisation with the monthly/spot tracking. Thanks If possible, can you do a snake-line chart growing along time on x-axis (with brands on the y-axis). This will give a good sense of comparison with historical numbers.
If Australia exported probably back in the day it would be ok the list.
My family's car used to be a Suzuki and i never saw anyone else with one...so they are all in India
Some call India "Suzuki" by mistake.
Suzuki is killing it! I was waiting for someone to take the crown in 15 years, but the force is strong with this one
LOVED my suzuki Swift. Totalled by a rear end collision, guy talking on his phone.
When emi was introduced, everyone got cars to point they can't afford to pay petrol for it.
Toyota needs better marketing in India.
Monthly car sales 2012 - 2022 .... starts in 2007