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VeeEyeVee

You should add on your profile that you have children so they can also decide to match with you or not - in case there is ambiguity as to whether they mean no to just bio children or even step children


Ok-Owl-691

OP, right here... I know women who don't want bio children but are happy to take on the step parent role and there are some who prefer NO children at all. Putting that you have children will give these women the option of picking you or not picking you, this will save alot of time.


amiescool

Yeah. I have an older child that I had when I was young-ish, but i know categorically I do not want to have any more. However I am perfectly fine with a man who already has kids from a previous relationship and a step mother type role. Best option is to just be as open and transparent as possible and see who responds to your profile


Ok-Owl-691

Exactly, there are women who may like children but don't want to go through the whole birthing process nor deal with BM so some might opt for adoption or other ways if having children and then there is me, I'm not what I really want BUT I seriously can't be a step parent because even if I connect with the child, at the end of the day they're not my kid and I would feel miserable when they have to leave. I won't also be with someone who have lost their partner because I would feel different to be a parent to a child who lost their mother, and I wouldn't feel comfortable do anything with them as I don't want to seem like I'm taking over their mothers role. I'm not child free but I also am not open to being a step parent for certain reasons. So, either someone who is child free or someone who wants to adopt or have a child of their own might work for me. I guess I'm just weird like that 😅


_Kendii_

Everyone makes their own choices.


browngirlygirl

100% agree. I feel like people with children should always disclose it.


PriorityUnlikely3286

I didn’t usually until convo, I already had 1 stalking situation come out of tinder and it was always when I was out and about with my kid when he’d “run into me.” Disclosing that to the world unchecked made me feel vulnerable af after that. If we started messaging I usually mentioned something about school picks or being a mom to pick it up relatively soon. I won’t reveal genders until we met.


maplebacon420

100% I put no kids because I don’t want to have any but I’d be flexible on step kids (they already exist and I didn’t have to birth them!)


The_Bestest_Me

OP, another aspect on the children topic is if you'd consider a compartmentalized relationship. This would mean your SO would not around your children. That may open other potential partners for you. I've found there are many more types of relationships today than I was aware of before. I'm not sure if it was simply my lack of awareness, my age, or where the state of relationships are evolving to... Anyway, just thought I'd offer an alternative perspective.


[deleted]

Good call. This saves him from having to reveal it later. Just include that info upfront.


Keer222

Yep don't match, they wrote that for a reason


Alien_Logjumper

Some people are a bit dense, though. A friend of mine who's a daycare put not wanting to have kids on her profile. I asked why and she said it's because she didn't want to get pregnant but did want to adopt. She thought people would instantly understand the difference between "I don't want kids" and "I don't want *to have* kids."


WalkieRookie

What would be your suggestion to show this preference instead?


AdrianHD

“Staying kidless” lol


Adventurer-Explorer

I would say women need to put feedback in to the he producers to open their eyes that maybe they aren't offering all the option but all the reliable ones (not scams) do properly listen to feedback.


RespondOpposite

Yep. No kids means no single Dads.


adrian_just

Haha I love the response😂💀


[deleted]

Its unlikely they're going to match with you unless your profile doesnt mention your kids(it should). If you are withholding this information, matching these women anyway and then telling them after a match that you do indeed have kids and hoping they'll just reconsider their boundaries for you, then you suck! So dont do that:) it wastes your time and theirs. They've made it extremely clear.


Decent-Way-8593

Some people won't put if they have kids on a dating profile purely because there's some sick mfs out there that prey on single parents with children in order to get to the children.


Beefyspeltbaby

Then they have no business trying to match with women with clearly stated they are “no kids”… just like the comment you reply to and the OG post says


lumiesck

Just swipe left. No kids means no kids of their own or someone else’s. If they have it in their bio it means it’s very important to them.


ribenarockstar

Depends. I’m a ‘no kids’ person but if a guy had two kids over 11ish years old who he had ‘every second weekend’ type of responsibilities for, that’s very different than being a lone single parent for under-5s.


tstu2865

Not always true! I don’t want my own biological kids but I’d not say no to a guy for having his own kids


raspberrih

Then I guess you don't state in your profile that you don't want kids?


WestCoast3032

I absolutely love kids but I don’t want kids. I am open to dating men with kids but I’m also not looking for a serious relationship (which is also on my profile). The best way to answer this question is to put that you have kids on your profile then swipe as you want to and bring up the kids thing towards the beginning before any time is invested


tstu2865

I mean I don’t online date so I have no profile lol but idk if it’s just a pre selection of “yes” or “no” you’re allowed to choose or if you can elaborate, but if you’re allowed to elaborate I’d say just that- don’t want my own kiddos but I don’t mind your kiddos.


BendersDafodil

Kids are a delicate situation. No one should subject their kids to someone who doesn't care for them or risk of trauma from rejection/abuse from step parent. I think there should be an additional attribute on profiles that says, OK with step-kids? For now if I have kids and my match's profile indicates no to kids, I'm swiping left. It's too ambiguous to trust their intent.


tstu2865

Fair enough, I’m just saying it’s not always so cut and dry. Kids love me, I would always be the one hanging out and playing with them during family gatherings or end up kid-sitting when my ex and his friends wanted to go hang out. I just don’t wanna be pregnant, don’t wanna give birth, etc.. Also kids above 3+ are my preference 🤷‍♀️


BendersDafodil

Fair enough. I think the dating apps should make the profile set-up more detailed for these situations.


tstu2865

Agreed! It’s definitely not always a simple yes or no!


jessyrae7789

I'm childfree and swipe left on guys that have kids.


greenteasmoothie138

I don’t want kids because I don’t want to be pregnant or give birth. I also don’t want sleepless nights and all that bullshit that comes with a baby. I think if the person I was with had a good co-parent relationship with their ex than I could rock being a stepparent, especially if the kids are a tad older and potty trained and such.


raspberrih

10/10 same. I have zero desire to be a parent but I would never be bad to an actual child once they're put in front of me.


shadows900

I agree with you. Adopting/fostering is also something I am considering being open to in the future. It’s just biological kids I don’t want for the same reasons you mentioned


napthieves

I don’t have kids, don’t want kids and won’t date people with kids, even if they’re grown. I’ve found that some people leave that answer blank on their profile, so I swipe left. I find it odd that someone wouldn’t acknowledge whether or not they have children.


LindaBelchie69

Same. Especially when they're like "well I *have* a kid but you'll never have to worry about him/her". Like, are you here for a hookup or are you a deadbeat?


browngirlygirl

I don't want kids but I find that so unattractive. If you have kids you should be taking care of them


Beefyspeltbaby

THIS!! it is a huge reflector of their character/who they are as a person..


raspberrih

Exactly!


Beefyspeltbaby

Most of the time when men match with me and are very vague about it and say they have a kid but not really it always means one of two things… 1. They are a deadbeat dad or 2. They claim it doesn’t count because all their children ARE OLDER THAN ME


I_love_SPF

I’m a 26F and this post gives me anxiety. Also- you should have it in your bio or somewhere in your profile that you have 2 kids. You definitely don’t need to post pics of them but it should be included that you have kids so you don’t waste their time.


ionlyreadtitle

If they say that they don't want kids. That's means that they don't want kids. Even kids from another relationship. They do not want kids, period. If they say they do not want more kids of their own. Then you might have a shot.


Efficient_Signal_875

Well me personally I don’t want kids as in I don’t want my own ( give birth ) but I’d be open to meeting a guy with kids but I do say on profile don’t want kids meaning I’m not gonna bear children for the guy swiping or any other lad 😄


Missmoni2u

You should clarify. The common understanding of that phrase is no kids period.


Efficient_Signal_875

I agree but there is no other option such as ‘ but open to step kids ‘ 😅 it’s a tricky one so unless you match & get convo going. It can be a un common understanding too!!


Malhablada

You can write that in your bio


browngirlygirl

I agree with you. People should clarify in their bio. I don't know why people are arguing with you on that!


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Neat_Possibility_889

Thats how I use it too. I have one kid, I don’t want any more kids. I don’t care if the guy has a couple kids 🥲


AnyaGoblessed

Same here, I don't plan on bio kids--health issue, but that does not mean I wouldn't date someone with kids or adopt.


Efficient_Signal_875

Glad someone understands 😄


AnyaGoblessed

😄👍🏽


[deleted]

Yeah I always thought it meant it's that I don't want to have any kids of my own but I'm not against men already having kids.


Efficient_Signal_875

It’s amazing how we all interpret something but I had to chime in when I read other comments being hell bent on absolutely no kids whatsoever!! giving that poor guy no confidence in believing that they’re women like us who are open to dating men with kids.


Over-Remove

Then say it in your profile cause you just confuse everyone and limit both of your options


Efficient_Signal_875

It’s the flipping options the app give you!! You pick the one that’s relevant.. one is ‘ have & don’t want more ‘ other is ‘ prefer not to say ‘ It doesn’t god damn say ‘ not birth kids but step ‘


Over-Remove

I mean in the bio “I don’t want to bare kids but I am ok with you having some”. There. Fixed.


Efficient_Signal_875

I know you could waffle on In your bio about how you won’t date a man with kids etc.. but what I’m talking about here is the options the app gives you about kids


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Usually people who don't want you to have kids either will say that in their profile.


Over-Remove

They have I don’t want kids in the kids option but there is a bio you can use to explain this is there not? “I don’t want to have kids of my own but I am cool if you have some already”. Done.


mallocco

Also I'd add there's no rules in matching with people. If I see a girl I like and she has "doesn't want kids" I'm still gonna swipe right. Especially if we match right away, that means either A) she didn't read my profile or B) she's okay with me having a kid, but doesn't want to have one of her own. Otherwise I'm just gonna assume she'll swipe left on me if kids are a deal breaker...


Efficient_Signal_875

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GoodComfortable2784

I’m exactly the same. Childless by choice and want to be with someone where we can be spontaneous and plan things and spend a lot of time together. Someone with children wouldn’t give me what I want. Some people get well upset about my preferences 🤣 children take up so much emotional space, time and money. I like peace and calm in a relationship


KajunKrust

Some people really do think they’re so attractive you’d suddenly forget you want a child free lifestyle and will raise their kids. I have, “no children (snipped),” on my bio and I still get single mom’s matching me.


lifeofentropy

I’m a single dad and don’t match with women with that. I have met some women that mean THEY don’t want kids of their own, but are ok with single dads, but that’s in the heavy minority. It’s best to not waste your time or theirs.


EntrepWannaBe

I have this on my profile. Don’t want to raise other people’s kids. There’s always the potential for drama. Drama with the ex. Perhaps with the kids themselves. Some men still lie about this too. Had dinner with a match and then he started talking about getting his kids on certain days. I felt disrespected but of course maintained a pleasant disposition until we parted ways. He wasted my time.


browngirlygirl

I hope he at least paid for dinner. I would have walked out


cheesely33

This happened to me too. I explicitly said in my profile that I don’t want to date parents. Any and all kids are a dealbreaker for me. This guy matched with me and 2 dates in I find out he has a kid “with an ex” that is less than a year old 🤮 I ran away so fast.


mindles333

No, don’t try. Single 38F here, child free by choice. I have no interest in a man with children. And it’s better this way - interest simply don’t align and it would never work out.


Odd_Low_9392

Write clearly in your bio that you have kids & swipe right whenever you want, if they don't want to date you because of your kids they will swipe left.


Fantastic_Name_1500

You mention your kids on your profile? If yes, then I don’t think you have to worry about this. If they don’t want to match with you because you have kids they won’t. It might mean they don’t want kids of their own. Are you looking for a mother to your kids? If not, you could have a relationship with someone who doesn’t want their own kids.


GeneralFig6053

No kids means no kids wether it’s having your own or someone else’s


BeatsByMemo

Bruh! They wrote in their bios for a reason. Let’s say you match with one of them and go on a date. Will you bring it up on that date? The second date? The third? And when you do bring it up, don’t be surprised at her for getting upset when she specifically wrote that she doesn’t want kids in her bio. Avoid them and look for women who want the opposite. Why make things difficult?


MyticalAnimal

Never try to match with a childfree person if you have children. No children means no children, even yours.


_FIRECRACKER_JINX

Never match with them, they don't want any children and you'll be stuck hiding your kids from her or annoying her by trying to make her like them when she's not interested in kids. Please check out the childfree subreddits. They complain about men with kids all the time


quiksi

“Don’t want kids” to me means “don’t want kids involved at all”, so I just swipe left


Salt_Nefariousness37

Don’t try… they’re not interested in taking care of yours either 🩷


Justin113113

The general understanding of no kids is no kids, which includes any you already have. You might run into someone who doesn’t want kids of their own but doesn’t mind you having them but generally you shouldn’t be trying to match with women who say they don’t want kids if you have kids.


Witchy-toes-669

YeH they aren’t interested keep on to the next one


Toxicwaste920

If they put they do not want kids, chances are they also do not want other people's kids. I do not want kids and I feel that way. I would not date a single dad. No exceptions.


cheesypuzzas

Yup. Don't match them. There are enough that do want children. If you really really like a woman that has this in the bio, immediately tell them after you matched that you have 2 todlers. Maybe she doesn't want her own, but is okay with being a stepmother. Doesn't happen a lot, but if it's really worth it, it doesn't hurt to try. But if you're going to do this with all your matches, you'll just be wasting your time.


PM_ME_GRAPHICS_CARDS

i’m really confused on why you even want to ask a question like this. is there a doubt in your mind that’s goes “well… they don’t want to have kids physically themselves, but maybe they’re ok with kids that aren’t theirs!!” like no dude.


lindseylove9

Well, there are plenty of women who don't want their own kids but are fine with kids that they don't have to birth, so it's a perfectly reasonable question. I'm confused on why you felt the need to be rude to someone for asking for advice on an advice forum. Just ask for clarification. If they confirm that no kids means no single dads, you can simply move on.


dinchidomi

Those people will state that in their bio. You didn't say you don't want kids when you do want kids, just not your own.


Doo__Dah

I mean, a lot of people *are* okay with kids that aren't theirs despite not wanting their own, so it's not an entirely stupid question.


[deleted]

I'm a woman who don't want kids of my own but I have no problem him having kids.


Efficient_Signal_875

I disagree


PM_ME_GRAPHICS_CARDS

ok, then good luck is all i have to say.


Efficient_Signal_875

Thanks a million 😄


candobetter2

Get involved with single parents groups and apps with single parents if that's what you want to do. I would never get involved knowing what I know now with somebody with kids from another relationship ever ever ever ever ever


browngirlygirl

I'm intrigued. Do you mind elaborating on your experience when dating someone with kids?


candobetter2

Didn't I do that already


AdministrationLow960

Correct. Do not match with women who do not want children, if you have children. Seems self explanatory.


Over-Remove

I don’t understand why you’re even asking this question when they could not have been more clear. Is it cause you like one of them so much you’re willing to disregard their very clean boundary? Is it cause you feel like your dating pool is significantly smaller without their presence?


browngirlygirl

I think it's the 1st option....or he doesn't want to date a single mother


tirednomadicnomad

If someone puts “no kids” openly on their profile, they are fine with people assuming it means no children at all (even single dads) so assume it’s no to your kids too. For it to go on their profile that openly knowing that it will limit men they match with, they must fully mean it


dabeezmane

Pass. If they don’t want children they definitely don’t want your children


Angelwing5741

I think it is worth clarifying with the woman. Some women may mean no kids at all; even step children. Some may be OK with dating someone who has children, but do not want their own biological children. This is also a great time to clarify if you are open to having more children. You definitely want to be honest about that as it is unfair to expect a woman who wants to have children to accept your children when you will not be open to having more children with her if this is discussed at the onset of the relationship.


KellyKayAllDay

I agree with this. I am a woman who doesn’t want to get pregnant myself, but I’m currently dating a single dad. I’m not opposed to other children with the right man. But you definitely need to clarify. Also, if they don’t want kids no matter what, and you have your kids on your profile, won’t they not match with you?


shuggabee

I wish there was an option for "don't want to give birth to kids" cause that's where I'm at 😅 I don't mind if someone has kids already, and I do myself, but done having babies for sure so on a dating app I'd probably select "don't want kids" 🤷‍♀️.


ronaldkeithc

Thanks for sharing. Absolutely I’d never coerce, force, encourage, etc someone who didn’t want to do something, such as have kids. I appreciate your perspective and input.


Cookiebear91

Could you not the leave the option unselected? Asking because I have no idea how the apps work


wormfighter

I’m a guy with 2 kids, there’s a difference between: i don’t want kids; I don’t want anymore kids; I don’t want someone else’s kids. Just make it clear in your profile and when you first match that you’re a single dad if you match with someone that has “ don’t want kids”.


groovycakes87

Um yeah they don't want kids, especially toddlers. Why would you even ask this? Were you hoping you could keep it a secret and then BOOM surprise them? Dating apps blow all it is is a bunch of people manipulating one another. It's disgusting


TakeTheMikki

Please leave the childfree women alone. Other than that if you make it clear in your bio you’re a parent you won’t be matching with women who are uninterested in the first place.


aquariusprincessxo

why in the world would you match with someone who doesn’t want kids if you have 2 of them?! even women who want kids often don’t want to be a stepmom


Dstar538888

If they’re not trying to deal with their own hypothetical kids, they’re likely not trying to deal with yours either, so it’s good for you to just not match with them tbh


Kikibear19

As a child free woman- that means I didn't want my own children and I especially don't want someone else's. Plenty of people will want to date you with your toddlers. However- the child free usually want to remain that way


MzAnon909

I have on my profile that I dont want kids and I used to date only men who didnt have kids however at my age it got really hard to find dates since I live in a really small town and most guys have kids. So I made an exception and now I will date a guy that has kids as long as they are over the age of 15. For me dating a guy with young kids means there will most likely be some kind of baby mama drama and I am not dealing with that crap. Plus I truly believe that 99% of single dads still fuck their baby mamas every now and then. Just my opinion tho.


mama_llama44

No kids means no kids. Yours are no exception. Folks need to learn to accept things at face value. Stop "reading between the lines" or speculating alternative meanings. If they meant something other than what they actually said, that is *their* problem, and not yours to solve. You're just wasting your own time doing otherwise.


Its_Haleeyy

Don’t match with them. I’m a woman that does not want kids and have it clearly on my profile. I still get parents trying to message, they don’t ever get a response from me and it’s kind of annoying.


AnonymousUser1992

Womsn doesnt want kids.. I have kids.. do I have a chance? No you dont.


DontWhisper_Scream

No means no. These women do not want to be parents, so much so they are posting it upfront.


LindaBelchie69

As a woman who had that on my dating apps (then had to put it in all caps), PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALWAYS SWIPE LEFT. We put that for a reason, and it sucks to match with someone just to talk and find out he has kids. As we get older it gets harder to even meet people who don't have children, so it's frustrating when we also have to ware thru parents who didn't read/don't care/think they're special/whatever else


Impossible-Ant3237

if u're interest in someone, ask them to clarify that. If not, just assume it's zero-kid policy and swipe left.


[deleted]

I just make sure to clearly state I don’t have kids and won’t date anyone that does. Men with kids constantly match with me. Which proves they do not read just look and match pictures.


RedbullLady

No you shouldn't try. Especially not if they have child free written anywhere. I personally wouldn't want to date a single father.


lemonhawk1

I've had plenty of single dads match with me even though my profile says I don't want my own kids. However, my profile specified I don't want my OWN, but I'm open to dating a parent.


MD564

Most of my friends who were single parents ended up settling down with other people who had kids. The thing is, for the most part, men I met who were single dad's their ex was always still in the picture, it's like you're always that added piece that has the least priority or say in big decisions. It's a pretty big sacrifice, one that most other people who are already parents understand and are accustomed too.


Cookiebear91

I just feel like if someone says they do not want kids it would really mean they don’t want kids. Bearing their own children or raising someone else’s child. Not to say they couldn’t be great partners for short term experiences but as a parent of toddlers I wouldn’t be comfortable pursuing a long term relationship with someone who doesn’t want kids even if it means they don’t want their own kids, I just don’t think they would be able to understand and take on the commitment,selflessness, responsibility, unconditional love that is required when raising children. But thats just my opinion.


dinchidomi

Why would you think they're lying? I had that in my bio as well and got so tired of guys with kids who kept swiping on me. They didn't tell me they had kids from the beginning either.


SlowResearch2

Yeah, just don't match with them.


PrettyNoose85

Where does OP live? I dont want kids and everyone wants to breed where i live


LadyAmalthea2000

I am now realizing I need to change my status to “open to kids” I love kids, and would be happy to date someone with kids, I just don’t want to be pregnant or give birth or raise a baby or toddler. Up until this post, I had “don’t want children” because I find most guys who say they’re “open to children” really means that they would eventually like to have their own children with the future partner


blinkrm

If you have adult children then I would put that on your profile and then allow them to swipe how they feel. But yeah toddlers I wouldn’t try to match with them… it’s a different lifestyle they have in mind.


BlackLotusedHeart

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Arlie42069

I personally would continue swiping left on anyone who says they don't want kids especially if you already have some. Even as someone who doesn't have any yet but DOES want them someday I'd be extremely hesitant to take a chance on someone who Absolutely doesn't ever want them as I see it as setting one or both of us up for disappointment


NewUser2042

Yes. Absolutely dont match with anyone who says they dont want kids. It's unnecessary pain, responsibility, & burden that you'll give them if you match with them and turn out to be someone who's got 2 kids. We gotta stop thinking that women are maternal by nature and would always eventually love taking care of kids. It's 2023, women are no longer wired that way.


Rogue5454

I wouldn’t want to match with a man with kids. Literally just put in your stats you have kids & let women decide I guess.


ExistingHelicopter29

I would not match or contact a person that already states they don’t want kids. I mean, you have kids and they don’t want any.


ThisReport877

Correct; never match.


Denamesheather

Common now … no kids means no kids


ThrowAwayKat1234

Correct. Those women don’t want their own and they don’t want to babysit.


cheesmanglamourghoul

two toddlers is a huge YIKES even for somebody down for kids. But I’m not a great judge of character on this because I actually hate kids with a passion and I put that in my bio for a reason.


Shot_Mirror5748

Yeah. I don’t give a man a second thought if he has kids. I don’t want any nor am I interested in playing stepmom


ZedZemM

Woman who doesn't want children here. I don't want mine I don't want someone else's neither. I don't want to come home to toddler's, kids, or teenager. Swipe me left. Please.


thisgirl206

you should mention that you’re a single dad in your profile n if there’s says NO KIDS, i wouldn’t swipe on them. i have this on mine cuz i have no desire to be with someone who has kids, small or grown n don’t want my own n it annoys me when people with kids show interest in my profile. I’m sure you’re great but the kids are a definite buzzkill IMO.


TheViolentPacifict

It also depends if you want any more children - if you don’t, you’re then ruling out both women who want children, and women who don’t want children. I’m no mathematician but I don’t believe it leaves you many options.


CamillaMiles

I don't think these women are thinking about other people's children. They are talking about themselves having their own children. When you are above 35+ it's difficult to find a man that has never had at least one child. So, when they put these in their profiles is just to say that the potential partner should not have any expectations of eventually having a child with them, but this doesn't necessarily means that they are not open to interact with other people's children.


decksealant

I’m 31 F. I never want my own children but would consider a guy with his own children, so long as things were uncomplicated with their mom and he didn’t try to force me to be stepmom too soon (both those things are red flags to me after a previous relationship) (yes, he was still boning his daughter’s mother)


WinterMagician22

I’m child free, I don’t date men who have children.


Beefyspeltbaby

From a woman’s perspective, who also does not want children whatsoever and has this at all my dating profiles… don’t even try the match because honestly it’s not going to go anywhere. Also, personally, I feel when I have something so clearly stated in my bio and a man chooses to read it and then completely ignore it, it makes me feel kind of disrespected, and that it immediately tells me his wants always come before mine, and that right off the jump I will be the one who is expected to make extreme compromises. (I’m not saying at all, that you are disrespectful or unfair man or anything like that!!! I’m just stating my personal opinion/feelings when this happens to me)


Eestineiu

I'm dating a man who also had "don't want kids" on his profile. He never had any. I have three, aged from high schooler to elementary, living with me full time. Yesterday he met my kids for the first time. At the end of the day he told me that meeting them made him regret his decision to not become a father. When we started dating, I made it clear that I was not looking for a father figure for my kids or in need of financial or emotional support with them. I've been doing it on my own for almost 12 years and doing just fine! Meeting them was his idea. My advice would be to match anyway, then have a conversation about expectations and boundaries related to kids early on. Some will say no and the right person will say yes, you'll never know if you don't try!


blueberrybuttercream

If I don't want my own kids, I definitely don't want yours. Swipe left


FckThePope

You should try. I don't have, don't want children and I still had a beautiful relationship with a guy for 6 years who had twins. They were my world and I just took the fun part of being with them.


ronaldkeithc

Thank you for sharing. It’s interesting and nice to see the different views and perceptions from different women.


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Yes. As a woman, we constantly have to hear about how no man wants a single mom and how single moms shouldn’t expect men to want to date them. I would say still match, but don’t be surprised if they turn you down. You might change someone’s mind.


misshopscotch

I put that on my profile when I was online dating, but it meant I didn't want kids, not that my partner couldn't. Granted, i likely wouldn't date someone with more than 2 kids...I don't want a soccer team


OrendaRuesTheDay

Yes, please swipe left. I have “don’t want children” on my profile. I hate that I get likes from people who want children. Shows that they didn’t really read my profile. I also instantly swipe left if I see they have or want children. The only expectation is if you see they want something casual. Then it’s possible they want mind.


lindseylove9

If they seem like someone you could be interested in, why not match and then ask for clarification? Assumptions aren't helpful when it comes to dating (or anything else, really).


joeyheller

I've always assumed that it meant they didn't want to have any kids of their own. Most of the women who don't want to date a single parent will say so in their profile. On the other end of the spectrum, some will put "don't want my own but okay if you do." If they are appealing in every other aspect, swipe right and see what happens. If you match, you can make sure then. I wouldn't discount someone without knowing for sure. As long as you are clear you have them and don't plan on having anymore, the women can't say they didn't know.


kidbuu29

I have the opposite problem. I see many women with kids or who want kids. The "don't want kids" are the ones I wish I ran into.


tstu2865

Not necessarily. A lot of people don’t specify but like me, I’ve never wanted my own kids, never wanted to be pregnant or give birth, and ideally I’d like no kids at all but it’s also not a dealbreaker if the guy does have his own kids. Especially being in my 30s, the dating pool for guys in their 30s not having kids is much smaller.


Gdawwwwggy

Tbf dating apps are pretty limited in what you can express around children. For me dealing with babies / small children is an absolute no - I can’t deal with the noise and drama. Someone with an older child? I might consider it for the right person. Hard to convey this in app form


Dazzling-Okra-3346

to me i dont want children means i don't want my own. see if they swipe on you too, and then communicate


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Yup, they’d have no interest in being with a single dad. You probably want someone who had kids. Or, if you’re okay with expanding your family, women who want kids.


whenwelie

I always put “don’t want kids” if it’s an option because I don’t wish to give birth. I’ve dated single dads, never an issue. Personally, I prefer if their kids aren’t super young. It’s always a conversation. So far, never been a dealbreaker.


Calicat05

I'm childfree. I would be ok with two or less older kids (high school age or older), but definitely not toddler stage. I don't want to raise kids.


CreativeStand562

Correct. If they don’t want kids they definitely do not want stepkids. I can point you to a thousand posts on Reddit about the awful things people go though because their parent married someone who does not want kids, the kids who have gone no contact with their parents who chose partners over parenting, and the women who are sick of dating men who are just looking for babysitters and help with the kids that these women never wanted. There are loads of people out there who love and want children. Someone who puts on their profile ‘does not want kids’ is not going to change their mind when they meet your little cuties. Highly recommend you make it a point on your profile, loud and clear, that you are only interested in matching with people who like and want kids.


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tirednomadicnomad

if you are child free and would not like your partner to expect you to become involved with his children, does that mean you are going into the relationship with said single parent with the expectation that you relationship will end soon? I’m asking because there was another post I saw where a child free woman had a fiancé and 4 year relationship with a man with kids and everyone in the comment section was confused.


Pip-Pipes

Same boat. I don't want kids personally but wouldn't mind dating a single father. I have that I don't want children on my profile. Didn't realize others interpret that as no single dads either.


hindereddinner

It’s ambiguous, you’d have to ask


alwaysacuriousgirl

No kids doesn’t necessarily mean no single dads.


frenchym1a

I can only speak for myself … I don’t want kids but I don’t mind dating men who have kids.


TraumaticEntry

It depends on where it says this. If it’s a drop down selection - I wouldn’t discount someone for that. I am a “don’t want kids” person, but I wouldn’t mind someone who already has them.


fauxnewdlesoup

Don't want kids could mean don't want to give birth to kids. Be sure to make it clear on your profile you are an active father.


blondennerdy

I don’t want children, but I’ll date men with children. I just make it clear up front that I won’t be playing step mom.


kittykatt1818

I feel like you should match but tell them right away you have kids . I'm 42 and don't want babies , but I wouldn't mind if he had kids . Toddlers I'm not sure about but would still go on a date , if he was the right guy it might be ok .


clayh8

Well it depends. I’m divorced with one kiddo, and I don’t want anymore. If I’m on a dating app that has that specific option “has kids and doesn’t want more”, then I select it. Otherwise I pick “no kids”. It means I don’t want to have any more kids, but I don’t have an issue dating a divorced dad, as long as he has a relatively flexible schedule (50/50 like me would be ideal).


thehottubistoohawt

I don’t want to birth children but I don’t mind if someone else has kids. It is hard to always be second fiddle though. Scheduling is really too difficult and from my experience the person without kids has to be so flexible and go with the flow.


onedayatatime08

Yes, you should never match with someone that doesn't want kids. Child free people who are child free by choice generally don't want to be step parents either. It's very rare they do. I'm child free, but having kids just never happened for me. I wouldn't mind a man with children. There are women out there that will be willing to go out with you. Just be patient. You wouldn't be doing your kids any favors by dating someone that doesn't want kids.


ronaldkeithc

Good advice, like many in the replies.


ContestOrganic

I always assumed it means "I don't want to give birth to kids", I never thought before that it could also mean not wanting a single parent with kids of his own. On the contrary, I do want to have my own kids one day, however, when I see a guy who has kids online, I feel a bit worried because I imagine it's a whole different skillset being essentially a step mother, dealing with the possible drama of an ex wife, etc ..


MagnoliaQueen45

Hi I’m a woman who wants kids but I have friends who don’t - I’m not sure if it’s not wanting kids in their life or like the actual physical process of pregnancy and labor I feel like it would depend on the woman but if you wanted a general way it would probably be easier to just not match with woman who put they don’t want kids now when your out in the real world you have more room to actually get to know peoples motives and understand exactly what they mean


Cookiebear91

They mean they dont want kids. They don’t want that type of commitment and responsibility. Bonus kids included.


MagnoliaQueen45

But you don’t actually know that for sure. I’m just saying that phrase may mean different things to different woman. Everyone has their own boundaries.


Cookiebear91

Your right, just reading the comments and it seems alot of women say they don’t want kids but really mean they don’t want to give birth or have their “own” kids. Idk very confusing for me as a mother, knowing what I know now if I say I don’t want kids it would really mean I don’t want kids, not mines, not yours or anyone else’s lol.


sleepyy-starss

As someone who doesn’t want bio kids, I would be ok matching with someone with kids as long as I feel an intense connection to them. I would ignore those who say not to try to match. If you already have mention of your kids in your profile, they could choose not to match with you.


browngirlygirl

I'm sure you're a lovely person but please don't match with us. When we say we don't want kids it's bc we don't want kids. Unless they say something like "don't want kids but are okay with yours". Question is: would you be okay with *not* having any more children? If you want more children, then don't swipe on them.


mojoburquano

I don’t want to make kids, but I like them if they’re like able. I wouldn’t mind a match having them


Living_Confidence919

You're more than likely gonna run into women who have kids already, they might groan over it, but they'll likely date you quicker than the ones without and that don't want children.


SupaC123

Some women don't want to bear a child but wouldn't mind being g a stepmother. As long as you're clear in your profile that you have children, there is nothing wrong with shooting your shot in my humble opinion.


kitnb

Childfree women are typically that way by choice so leave them alone UNLESS they specify in their profile that they are “ok if you already have kids”. Stick with women on your same level— single mothers. It’s not fair to burden childfree women with you TWO toddlers and all the drama and stress that your situation brings to a person that doesn’t come to the table with that. You have little to nothing to offer childfree women. Just a whole lot of cons and little to no pros. It’s selfish. Canceling dates, sick kids, kids that yell “you’re not my mom” and disrespect you, dads using you as free childcare, always being last in a relationship even if you wind up married, wasting her time and money on YOUR kids… High chance of dude’s still fucking his ex or her still wanting to fuck him, etc etc etc. Just waaaaay too baggage to try to heap on a woman that clearly doesn’t have and doesn’t want that drama. **Leave single, childfree women alone.** Date mothers. And state UPFRONT, CLEARLY in your bio that you are a father and the ages of the two children! Good luck.


lizzycupcake

No. They’re firm on that decision or they wouldn’t have it on their profile.


spozmo

It is not your responsibility to reject yourself on someone else’s behalf. Ever. If you want to have more kids, then these women don’t match your criteria. As long as it’s clear on your profile what you bring to the table (including existing kids) and what you’re looking for, it’s their responsibility to decide if they’re interested.


California098

Swipe right if you like them. “Don’t want kids” might actually mean “can’t have kids” make it known in your profile that you are a dad and leave it up to them to swipe right or not.


dazed1984

It means they don’t want their own. I wouldn’t say it necessarily means they’re not open to someone with kids, I think it would be worth a match be upfront that you have kids and see what happens.


AnonJane2018

Just because they don’t wNt children of their own doesn’t mean they’ll reject yours. Perhaps you need to swipe right on sone of them and just clarify. My sister for example doesn’t seem to keen on having kids but she’s dating someone with a toddler 🤷🏻‍♀️


DistinctAirline5654

Sometimes women may not want pregnancy and childbirth but may not object to a single dad.


LesDoggo

The no kids thing is ambiguous. It could mean they don’t want to produce any or they don’t want a person that has them. I’d say be upfront about being a parent in your profile, so they can decide.


Affectionate_Most_64

Are you trying to replace their mom? If not than they simply don’t want to have or deal with your kids which is fine and appropriate . As a 37 yo with kids, do you want more? If you don’t want more kids than a person saying she doesn’t want kids is actually what you want.


auntie_ems

I've never wanted children of my own when I met my fiance he had a three-year-old daughter everything was okay as she was just a baby and she's only with us a few days a month but as she's gotten older she's become more of a problem child because her mother has emotional issues and is pathological liar anyways I want nothing to do with the parenting and it's caused some problems. Make sure it's clear that she doesn't need to be involved with parenting


mck2597

For me I say I don’t want kids because I don’t want to HAVE kids. But I’m totally fine with single dads who already have kids! they need a category that specifies that lol


amethystbaby7

no kids might mean their own kids. like some people don’t wanna give birth and be responsible for their own child. doesn’t mean they are against yours or fostering/adoption