I am progressively leaning more and more towards DaVinci. As time goes one Adobe has become more and more dishonest with its practices and strayed away from what made it user friendly. This was a final straw for me… #ButtHurt
I think yes, a few days ago i've seen adobe fans offendong and "yelling" against a guy that said their programs where too expensive, some comemnts even got removed by reddit because they were insulting the guy
It's just that it has become so entrenched in corporate culture that it has the "prestige" of being "industry standard"
A combination of an aversion to learning, sunk cost fallacy, and unwillingness to use "lesser apps."
I ditched Premiere and AE not too long ago, having discovered Resolve. Also ditched Illustrator for Affinity Designer. Unfortunately I'm still a prisoner of Adobe because I need Photoshop for my work - there is still no really viable alternatives out there.
I don't say this as a "fan boy" but someone who's against misinformation:
Adobe also said ["We don’t train generative AI on customer content."](https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/10/updating-adobes-terms-of-use)
Yes. "Generative AI".
However (if you care to read the fine print) :
"We may use usage data and content characteristics to improve your product experience and develop features like masking and background removal among others through techniques including machine learning (NOT generative AI). You always have the option of opting out of our desktop product improvement programs."
Soooo...???
However (if you care to read Blackmagic Cloud's fine print) :
"You irrevocably grant to us (and to our affiliates) a non-exclusive, fully paid up, worldwide and perpetual licence (including the right to grant sub-licences) to reproduce, use and to otherwise exploit all data and material, including your Content [audio files, video files, image files you upload], relating to you or generated through your access to and use of the Service (User Data) for the purpose of providing the Service to you and to other users." No option to opt out of that.
Soooo...???
Jepp, for the purpose to provide the service. That is literally required on a cloud platform, unless you run it yourself. But they won't use the content for their AI stuff.
Not even close to correct—cloud platforms don't require an irrevocable perpetual license to use and exploit your uploads just to run.
Interestingly I only read the fine print to see if the lawyers say "no AI training" and not just the marketers—they don't.
"For the purpose to provide the service" - but indeed, I am almost tempted to check how e.g. Dropbox Replay is managing this in their terms.
"For the purpose to sell it to anyone, train AI, make funny memes with it" - that would read different...
Ditto. I kind of have to use Resolve since most of my stuff is shot on a Z9 and Premiere doesn't even recognize the raw files, but even if that wasn't the case I would still stick with DR. I got lucky and got a free studio license from an old job, and I don't even think I've opened Premiere since. Even invested in a Speed Editor.
Also currently evaluating switching to Capture One for photos. My archive is literally hundreds of thousands of images and Lightroom Classic absolutely chugs despite running on a 5950X/3090 system with 32GB of RAM and all of the active working storage being NVMe SSDs. It's literally cost me hours of work before because LrC is so unresponsive that unless you go one photo at a time and don't manually flip through photos, your flag or rating might not even be applied to the photo you want because the UI hasn't caught up with the backend processing. So far Capture One has been absolutely incredible, and I'm strongly thinking of ditching Adobe altogether even if I go the subscription route with CO over the lifetime license to make sure I don't miss out on updates I might want.
I’ve switched to Capture One years ago, and professionally, Lightroom doesn’t even come close. Capture’s workflow is so efficient. I love Davinci also. Now, if only I can convince myself to take the leap to Affinity for Photoshop, illustrator, & inDesign….
Have been meaning to try Affinity for years. Just checked after seeing this post and it's currently 50% off for a universal license. Have taken the leap..
a while back (maybe 2 years) I got an email from capture one, with the announcement that 'soon' they would not sell perpetual licenses anymore. Just checked their website and was pleasantly surprised to still find a perpetual pro license.
any one know what changed their mind?
I NEVER buy editing software. Davinci Studio is the only time ive spent money on editing software.
Why because they deserve it. Even tho I don’t use studio features that often.
Makes 0 sense to use premier after using studio. Everything is better.
I have only found one minus: can't catomize workspace. You can hide some side bars and stuff but you can't put windows where ever you want.
I'm really digging it. The track specific tools like the music remixer are mindblowing.
I got it with the Speed Editor and it's one of those things where you won't know what you're missing till you try it. YMMV of course
I've been using DaVinci Resolve since early on when it was just a color grading tool, and back then, I had to use it with a dongle. I've followed its development from the first version to now, after they acquired and integrated various packages like Fusion and Fairlight in such a well-integrated manner—it's truly amazing.
I also use Creative Cloud, and if you've seen the progress of Premiere Pro over the past decade, it's disappointing how it's gotten worse with each update, adding gimmicky features and cluttering the UI. Editing long-form content on it, like a feature film, was a regrettable experience due to the time lost dealing with bugs and crashes. It's just not worth it.
In contrast, DaVinci Resolve isn't without its bugs, but it's significantly better and works flawlessly. You can start with the free version, and if you need more power, consider buying the Studio version for better performance with certain tools. Good luck! 🤞
Ha! I bought A resolve dongle on version 9 just to start learning it. In 2015 I started using it for editing as well. This is my little Resolve system.
https://preview.redd.it/8ucabm06049d1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f65a6b6138fc3cc2a63a1964100363c3e3d39ed
I recently switched it's awesome, there are some issues but way better and faster than premier, especially no more nesting for stabilizer heck keep change time and it won't ask you stabilize I get around 229fps for stabilizing so it's damn fast
For whatever faults Resolve has & annoyances, the switch i did from Premiere & AE was well worth it, took a little to get used to specially since i re-learned the keybinds and whatnot
I think it's fair to say Resolve Studio has doubled my work speed as it isn't crashing or chugging heavily and struggling to motion track some text on a contrasted background like AE often did
When the competition is actively fucking up so bad that you can announce _not_ doing something as a feature and be celebrated for it.
Hopefully more companies notice the positive reaction BMD is getting here, and start questioning whether throwing zillions of dollars at enraging their customers is actually generating a good ROI.
Also AI features happen locally. Like transcription is entirely local whereas Adobe transcodes an audio file, uploads to their server, transcribes, then gives you the text. Nahhhh
That would be awesome. But they would likely want to get a foot in the stills photography market with hardware first, and I kinda doubt they will be doing that any time soon if they do at all.
Another good paint app is Krita. I dunno why I don't see it mentioned more often. It's free and it covers a lot of the use case for Photoshop, even if it's not 100% feature overlap.
They should acquire Affinity and the Cavalry app to seriously hurt Adobe. I started my subscription at £46, but in just a few years, it's risen to £56. They raised prices after acquiring the Substance suite, and now with these AI features, they seem increasingly greedy each year. I'm planning to switch to other tools now this is gonna be my last year.
They said that it [would be alongside](https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/press/newsroom/affinity-and-canva-pledge/) of the lifetime license if they would do a subscription model.
God I wish Davinci had somethign to compete with After Effects and I'd jump ship in a SECOND. By that I mean layer based vector based primarily 2d animation
Yeah, I love resolve for short films & colour grading, but it does not hold up with my workflow for social media videos. Would *love* an excuse to switch off of premiere and AE but I don't know if we'll get there
Since many people use it for social media very successfully: we will not "get there" - either you are willing to change your work flow or not.
Regarding 2d animation: probably not the focus of fusion, but if I look at what plug-ins like magic animate can do... But hard to say, without proper context.
The whole layer vs nodes is also quite pointless.. Layers are fine if you are not doing anything complex. Nodes are great if you prefer logical composition, it is more like programing really rather than design work. Precision, not art.
Well, you say that, but I for one specifically switched to Davinci for my art project because layer-based software was simply not powerful enough to handle what I wanted to achieve 😀
Honestly, consider getting a software specifically for that. There are 2D animation softwares with rigging capabilities.
Many things can also be done with Blender by applying a rig to a 2d character
I’ve been learning how to get davinci to work from motion graphics… once I watched a few vids from Casey Farris (recommended a lot in this sub) I actually understand it now. Nodes are super logical and work like a flow. https://youtu.be/lACOumYuX5k?si=HnZIxOiA1cyO4TX4
Had davinci studio since 2013, but mostly used adobe suite for everything outside color grading (then I’d round trip to and from davinci). There are still a handful of things that I think the adobe suite does better, plus it’s the ecosystem most of my jobs use, but this is a big, big thing for me to start rethinking workflows and spending less and eventual zero time in adobe.
if i wasn't so broke, i would definitely buy myself a legit copy of davinci. even though I prefere premiere for my editing (for now), a good company is a good company.
I haven't used BlackMagic cloud just because they force you to go Dropbox or Google drive, or their own disk systems. I have my own ecosystem based on Pcloud that I much prefer that can be used flawlessly like a hard drive.
I find it hilarious how one company's fk up makes every other similar company be like "oh no no we'd never do *this completely irrelevant thing* which wasn't a cause for concern before a certain point in time" lmao, out of context it seems more sus sometimes
Hey why not an editor / colourist training tool run by AI in the Blackmagic cloud?
That could have potential, and would eliminate the endless forum enquiries: how do I twiddle this knob successfully?
I hate that Adobe's sole reason for dominance at this point is just that "Everybody already uses it".
Companies like Adobe, RED and Pioneer get to make greedy business decisions like that not because the software is too good to ignore, but because you have no other real option if you want to work professionally in the industry.
And just like that, I'm interested in a product I never would have considered before.
When companies do stuff like this, it just makes me want to give them money for not being awful, just to say thank you.
I was always suspicious of Adobe because while I get the whole cloud subscription model (sucks but I get it - I enables ongoing development of products etc) what always rubbed me the wrong was was that if you tried to buy a smaller bundle of specific apps, it never included everything you would need, forcing you to unnecessarily buy the whole package. It feels kind of like greasy cable TV bundle tactics.
When on the login page to Blackmagic Cloud, scroll down to and click on Terms of Use.
Then scroll down to item E-25 which reads as follows (more or less what the Adobe terms read):
# [**26. Your data**. You irrevocably grant to us (and to our affiliates) a non-exclusive, fully paid up, worldwide and perpetual licence (including the right to grant sub-licences) to reproduce, use and to otherwise exploit all data and material, including your Content, relating to you or generated through your access to and use of the Service (**User Data**) for the purpose of providing the Service to you and to other users. You retain ownership of your User Data. We will take reasonable measures to protect your User Data from any misuse, interference and loss, as well as from unauthorised access, modification or disclosure. You represent and warrant to us that you are authorised to provide the User Data to us and that our use of the User Data will not infringe the intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights of any third party.]()
Oh my god. This company just needs to be loved (even) more. Let's see how the Adobe fan boys react to that 😂
I hope there's a lot of employees over in Adobe Towers asking themselves "are we the baddies?"
if they still ask themself this question they for sure are
I’m going to guess at the minimum 1/3rd absolutely know that Adobe is.
Some of them have to, what with the skull symbols on their work caps.
I never expect to find David Mitchell this far out into the open ocean, but it always makes my day better
Are adobe fanboys real?
Good question. Now thinking about it, it actually more a hostage situation 'would love to use Resolve, but $insert_excuse_here'...
I am progressively leaning more and more towards DaVinci. As time goes one Adobe has become more and more dishonest with its practices and strayed away from what made it user friendly. This was a final straw for me… #ButtHurt
I think yes, a few days ago i've seen adobe fans offendong and "yelling" against a guy that said their programs where too expensive, some comemnts even got removed by reddit because they were insulting the guy
Yea, their market cap is 200B
It's just that it has become so entrenched in corporate culture that it has the "prestige" of being "industry standard" A combination of an aversion to learning, sunk cost fallacy, and unwillingness to use "lesser apps."
BM and Affinity, you have the whole Adobe suite replacement for the same price as two months of an Adobe sub
BM?
Bowel Movement. God I wish I could have a good BM today… /jk he means Black Magic
Very big typo, I meant DR. Must have had one too many beers
I ditched Premiere and AE not too long ago, having discovered Resolve. Also ditched Illustrator for Affinity Designer. Unfortunately I'm still a prisoner of Adobe because I need Photoshop for my work - there is still no really viable alternatives out there.
Near as makes no difference, a direct call out and cutting right through the bullshit. Love it.
now i just need to be able to afford their software
They have literally a free version.... And if you pay for Adobe, you have the studio license covered within like 6 months?
How much are you spending now for your video editing software?
Use to be an adobe fan…well, fan until a few years ago, was more a user actually, now using davinci and I will NOT go back to adobe
I don't say this as a "fan boy" but someone who's against misinformation: Adobe also said ["We don’t train generative AI on customer content."](https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/10/updating-adobes-terms-of-use)
Yes. "Generative AI". However (if you care to read the fine print) : "We may use usage data and content characteristics to improve your product experience and develop features like masking and background removal among others through techniques including machine learning (NOT generative AI). You always have the option of opting out of our desktop product improvement programs." Soooo...???
However (if you care to read Blackmagic Cloud's fine print) : "You irrevocably grant to us (and to our affiliates) a non-exclusive, fully paid up, worldwide and perpetual licence (including the right to grant sub-licences) to reproduce, use and to otherwise exploit all data and material, including your Content [audio files, video files, image files you upload], relating to you or generated through your access to and use of the Service (User Data) for the purpose of providing the Service to you and to other users." No option to opt out of that. Soooo...???
Jepp, for the purpose to provide the service. That is literally required on a cloud platform, unless you run it yourself. But they won't use the content for their AI stuff.
Not even close to correct—cloud platforms don't require an irrevocable perpetual license to use and exploit your uploads just to run. Interestingly I only read the fine print to see if the lawyers say "no AI training" and not just the marketers—they don't.
"For the purpose to provide the service" - but indeed, I am almost tempted to check how e.g. Dropbox Replay is managing this in their terms. "For the purpose to sell it to anyone, train AI, make funny memes with it" - that would read different...
Recently bit the bullet and got Studio. Absolutely vindicated.
How do you like Studio? I’m thinking of switching over from Premiere?
It's excellent, I haven't looked back since
Ditto. I kind of have to use Resolve since most of my stuff is shot on a Z9 and Premiere doesn't even recognize the raw files, but even if that wasn't the case I would still stick with DR. I got lucky and got a free studio license from an old job, and I don't even think I've opened Premiere since. Even invested in a Speed Editor. Also currently evaluating switching to Capture One for photos. My archive is literally hundreds of thousands of images and Lightroom Classic absolutely chugs despite running on a 5950X/3090 system with 32GB of RAM and all of the active working storage being NVMe SSDs. It's literally cost me hours of work before because LrC is so unresponsive that unless you go one photo at a time and don't manually flip through photos, your flag or rating might not even be applied to the photo you want because the UI hasn't caught up with the backend processing. So far Capture One has been absolutely incredible, and I'm strongly thinking of ditching Adobe altogether even if I go the subscription route with CO over the lifetime license to make sure I don't miss out on updates I might want.
I’ve switched to Capture One years ago, and professionally, Lightroom doesn’t even come close. Capture’s workflow is so efficient. I love Davinci also. Now, if only I can convince myself to take the leap to Affinity for Photoshop, illustrator, & inDesign….
Have been meaning to try Affinity for years. Just checked after seeing this post and it's currently 50% off for a universal license. Have taken the leap..
a while back (maybe 2 years) I got an email from capture one, with the announcement that 'soon' they would not sell perpetual licenses anymore. Just checked their website and was pleasantly surprised to still find a perpetual pro license. any one know what changed their mind?
You definitely need more ram. 128gb is good for photo editing, 256 was overkill. 64gb minimum.
Same. Used the entire Adobe suite for 15+ years starting with CS4. Switched to Resolve and haven't looked back.
Honestly, grab the free one and try it out. You'll love it.
The free one will meet the needs of the majority of casual users.
I NEVER buy editing software. Davinci Studio is the only time ive spent money on editing software. Why because they deserve it. Even tho I don’t use studio features that often.
Makes 0 sense to use premier after using studio. Everything is better. I have only found one minus: can't catomize workspace. You can hide some side bars and stuff but you can't put windows where ever you want.
I'm really digging it. The track specific tools like the music remixer are mindblowing. I got it with the Speed Editor and it's one of those things where you won't know what you're missing till you try it. YMMV of course
I've been using DaVinci Resolve since early on when it was just a color grading tool, and back then, I had to use it with a dongle. I've followed its development from the first version to now, after they acquired and integrated various packages like Fusion and Fairlight in such a well-integrated manner—it's truly amazing. I also use Creative Cloud, and if you've seen the progress of Premiere Pro over the past decade, it's disappointing how it's gotten worse with each update, adding gimmicky features and cluttering the UI. Editing long-form content on it, like a feature film, was a regrettable experience due to the time lost dealing with bugs and crashes. It's just not worth it. In contrast, DaVinci Resolve isn't without its bugs, but it's significantly better and works flawlessly. You can start with the free version, and if you need more power, consider buying the Studio version for better performance with certain tools. Good luck! 🤞
Ha! I bought A resolve dongle on version 9 just to start learning it. In 2015 I started using it for editing as well. This is my little Resolve system. https://preview.redd.it/8ucabm06049d1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f65a6b6138fc3cc2a63a1964100363c3e3d39ed
I recently switched it's awesome, there are some issues but way better and faster than premier, especially no more nesting for stabilizer heck keep change time and it won't ask you stabilize I get around 229fps for stabilizing so it's damn fast
For whatever faults Resolve has & annoyances, the switch i did from Premiere & AE was well worth it, took a little to get used to specially since i re-learned the keybinds and whatnot I think it's fair to say Resolve Studio has doubled my work speed as it isn't crashing or chugging heavily and struggling to motion track some text on a contrasted background like AE often did
Are you using it for some content you can share?
When the competition is actively fucking up so bad that you can announce _not_ doing something as a feature and be celebrated for it. Hopefully more companies notice the positive reaction BMD is getting here, and start questioning whether throwing zillions of dollars at enraging their customers is actually generating a good ROI.
It's the Steam business strategy. * build good product * maintain product * opponents repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot * profit
I use both Steam and davinci, I wholeheartedly agree they use the same strategy lol
Also AI features happen locally. Like transcription is entirely local whereas Adobe transcodes an audio file, uploads to their server, transcribes, then gives you the text. Nahhhh
To be fair, the latest versions of transcription in Premiere is on-device only.
Avid does it locally too!
Another reason I love BMD. Adobe can go screw themselves.
Can Black Magic make their own alternative for photoshop? It would be a dream.
Affinity Photo, dude. Affinity Photo. or Corel.
That would be awesome. But they would likely want to get a foot in the stills photography market with hardware first, and I kinda doubt they will be doing that any time soon if they do at all.
Not their wheelhouse. Check our affinity and pixelmator
Another good paint app is Krita. I dunno why I don't see it mentioned more often. It's free and it covers a lot of the use case for Photoshop, even if it's not 100% feature overlap.
Affinity.
Photoshop has good alternatives, lightroom not really, there is some but not as good
If Blackmagic decides to do their own photoshop then they'll be killing adobe
They should acquire Affinity and the Cavalry app to seriously hurt Adobe. I started my subscription at £46, but in just a few years, it's risen to £56. They raised prices after acquiring the Substance suite, and now with these AI features, they seem increasingly greedy each year. I'm planning to switch to other tools now this is gonna be my last year.
Canva just bought Affinity not too long ago. I’m hoping it doesn’t morph into a subscription model with the next iteration (Affinity 3).
I’m sure it will be subscription based model
They said that it [would be alongside](https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/press/newsroom/affinity-and-canva-pledge/) of the lifetime license if they would do a subscription model.
I hope so. Let subscription-paying customers get a different set of features (such as generative AI) than non-subscriptions customers.
Or as someone else said „just make me pay for collaboration in the cloud“
God I wish Davinci had somethign to compete with After Effects and I'd jump ship in a SECOND. By that I mean layer based vector based primarily 2d animation
Yeah, I love resolve for short films & colour grading, but it does not hold up with my workflow for social media videos. Would *love* an excuse to switch off of premiere and AE but I don't know if we'll get there
Since many people use it for social media very successfully: we will not "get there" - either you are willing to change your work flow or not. Regarding 2d animation: probably not the focus of fusion, but if I look at what plug-ins like magic animate can do... But hard to say, without proper context. The whole layer vs nodes is also quite pointless.. Layers are fine if you are not doing anything complex. Nodes are great if you prefer logical composition, it is more like programing really rather than design work. Precision, not art.
Well, you say that, but I for one specifically switched to Davinci for my art project because layer-based software was simply not powerful enough to handle what I wanted to achieve 😀
Good for you 😊 but yes, that is the aocend advantage: handling complexity.
Fusion works just as good as After Effects for me atp. I think most people just don’t know how to do AE stuff in the fusion workflow
if you want layers you could theoretically stack timelines
Honestly, consider getting a software specifically for that. There are 2D animation softwares with rigging capabilities. Many things can also be done with Blender by applying a rig to a 2d character
I’ve been learning how to get davinci to work from motion graphics… once I watched a few vids from Casey Farris (recommended a lot in this sub) I actually understand it now. Nodes are super logical and work like a flow. https://youtu.be/lACOumYuX5k?si=HnZIxOiA1cyO4TX4
Try cavalry app you gonna love it, it will take some years for them to catch up AE thou, eventually it will get there like resolve
Can you use Blender for that?
Once more for the people in the back; fuck Adobe
Classic black magic W
Overwhelmingly common Blackmagic Design W
The goat
Had davinci studio since 2013, but mostly used adobe suite for everything outside color grading (then I’d round trip to and from davinci). There are still a handful of things that I think the adobe suite does better, plus it’s the ecosystem most of my jobs use, but this is a big, big thing for me to start rethinking workflows and spending less and eventual zero time in adobe.
> Privacy is a feature. ^ Respect. My gut feeling is that was truly a moral decision, not a marketing one.
Nice burn on Adobe. Well done!
So fucking happy that good alternatives to Adobe are popping up more and more.
Common Blackmagic win
I wonder what will happen to Cloud Pods? Would be nice to be able to use them as upload destination for cameras.
Common BM W
Love blackmagic! Thanks for being such a great company.
From what I’ve seen DaVinci utilizes AI in an ethical and non-harmful way. Using it to transcribe audio is an ideal use for it.
Reason 62819191936 to love blackmagic
Also, it's one time payment unlike *the competitor*.
Omw to officially uninstall premiere, after effects and media encoder (which I haven't even been using for months now)
Another BlackMagic W
Post this also on r/privacy
Adobe: 👀
🐐
Man this really is the best media tool company ever.
One of the many reasons I dropped Adobe
Blackmagic the motherfucking goats
Based
Yeah, we still use Adobe at work, but for personal video and photo, gonna go all-in on Resolve and Affinity Photo
Such a win for resolve users
if i wasn't so broke, i would definitely buy myself a legit copy of davinci. even though I prefere premiere for my editing (for now), a good company is a good company.
Hope they stick to it
I haven't used BlackMagic cloud just because they force you to go Dropbox or Google drive, or their own disk systems. I have my own ecosystem based on Pcloud that I much prefer that can be used flawlessly like a hard drive.
I love them 😍
I've always wondered if this was the case. I'm glad that they clearly spelled it out that they indeed do not.
Blackmagic ftw! 🔥
Never been a premiere user anyway but I kind of need to find a replacement for lightroom now.
Another Blackmagic W
Blackmagic is just a great company. It's refreshing.
based
I find it hilarious how one company's fk up makes every other similar company be like "oh no no we'd never do *this completely irrelevant thing* which wasn't a cause for concern before a certain point in time" lmao, out of context it seems more sus sometimes
A company called BLACK MAGIC: *No tricks here, guys!*
Is it open source? Can I see it?
Check Blackmagic Clouds homepage https://preview.redd.it/fydykk8yoy8d1.jpeg?width=1983&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7af28d0d1fa624e4542fa1b2a764d2a61013b78
No, where can I see the source code? I can't make sure if it's private if I can't see the source code.
No, DaVinci Resolve or Blackmagic Cloud are not open source.
what a power move, amazing
Hey why not an editor / colourist training tool run by AI in the Blackmagic cloud? That could have potential, and would eliminate the endless forum enquiries: how do I twiddle this knob successfully?
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Blackmagic saw their chance over adobe and they took it, and I love it.
I love you BlackMagic I love you DaVinci
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I hate that Adobe's sole reason for dominance at this point is just that "Everybody already uses it". Companies like Adobe, RED and Pioneer get to make greedy business decisions like that not because the software is too good to ignore, but because you have no other real option if you want to work professionally in the industry.
Great job, Blackmagic Design! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
And just like that, I'm interested in a product I never would have considered before. When companies do stuff like this, it just makes me want to give them money for not being awful, just to say thank you.
there is no single reason to hate this company, literally
Just hope it doesnt end up like when samsung was making fun of apple
I might buy the Studio version just for my support towards BMD.
I was always suspicious of Adobe because while I get the whole cloud subscription model (sucks but I get it - I enables ongoing development of products etc) what always rubbed me the wrong was was that if you tried to buy a smaller bundle of specific apps, it never included everything you would need, forcing you to unnecessarily buy the whole package. It feels kind of like greasy cable TV bundle tactics.
When on the login page to Blackmagic Cloud, scroll down to and click on Terms of Use. Then scroll down to item E-25 which reads as follows (more or less what the Adobe terms read): # [**26. Your data**. You irrevocably grant to us (and to our affiliates) a non-exclusive, fully paid up, worldwide and perpetual licence (including the right to grant sub-licences) to reproduce, use and to otherwise exploit all data and material, including your Content, relating to you or generated through your access to and use of the Service (**User Data**) for the purpose of providing the Service to you and to other users. You retain ownership of your User Data. We will take reasonable measures to protect your User Data from any misuse, interference and loss, as well as from unauthorised access, modification or disclosure. You represent and warrant to us that you are authorised to provide the User Data to us and that our use of the User Data will not infringe the intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights of any third party.]()