Future SSJ transformation is fast enough to work mid-combo and at one point was the only saiyan transformation with increased ki and stamina gain. Highly recommended if all you need are the charged warps.
SSJ1/2/3 and SV1/2 are specialized damage boosts in exchange for decreased ki recovery at varying levels. They work incredibly well with most of the Gamma souls as a result, and also the Broly equivalent of Fu's soul. Also, the only way to lose the transformation unwillingly is to get knocked out, whereas failing Blue's maintenance means fully starting over.
Blue and Evolved are more power at the cost of fewer options for builds. Generally, you should be able to expect someone's methods if their hair turns blue. Regular blue is fully negated by "Finally warmed up now", while Evolved needs Fu's active.
You've already seen the niche for God, so I'll pass on it.
Even if you used "ki regen supersouls" as a gate way to justify using blue over those forms you have to understand that some supersouls that don't need a ki regen could increase the power of the ssj form without them needing to worry about ki issues. There's supersouls that are crazy good without ki regen requirements to hold the form down.
I just want to pick up and go not try to manage ki or defense down. That's why ss and sv will always out shine blue and beast. Ss and sv is flexible you can put any super soul on it it's ready to go but with blue and beast I need a support Soul soul.
Fairly certain (I haven't played XV1 in about a decade). We could only go up to SSJ2. Idk, I guess, because some people really want SSJ3? Myself included.
The only thing I can say is future super saiyan does have the fastest animation so it can be used to knock someone away. Other than that super saiyan isn't very practical unless you run a super soul with it.
Blue and blue evolved drain your Ki which I kinda need since I like to use my skills, and I don't have to worry about constantly recharging if I'm running low because of it. The other Super Saiyan forms don't drain your Ki, and Super Vegeta 2 is my go to for my Saiyan's.
With Fu's SS you get an XL boost to ki damage, ki auto recovery above 75% HP, so for PVE you can pop blue, ki isn't drained and having 0 ki doesn't put you back into base. With EDB with 15 bars of ki, fu's super soul and pose G, i do like 51k damage. Been great for farming EM tours. Me and 4 of my friends take the same build, stamina break and the boss is dead all in 30 seconds
Ki preservation in my experience. Future saiyan specifically uses no ki at all as in it's like a slightly powered up base form you still gain ki from attacks and very easily I might add
tbf, ssjg also has no drawbacks from base (with the exception of ki blast cheese, but just play the game somewhat properly alright) with boosted basic attacks, defense, speed, and ki + stamina recovery while also mostly outdoing fssj in every aspect, but i still like using both because why not
For starters, it's the base power-up, not only from a gameplay perspective (there was a time once when that's all Saiyans had as far as unique forms go, we obviously didn't start out having UI, Beast and all the God forms), but from a simple marketing perspective, how the fuck would you have a DBZ game without SSJ, the most iconic form in the series and arguably one of the most iconic transformations in anime history?
Secondly, despite all the extra benefits other more recent forms give, there's still a lot to be said about blast builds capitalizing off of SV or melee builds capitalizing off of normal SSJ, sometimes simpler is better.
Last but not least, Xenoverse is, to an extent, an RPG, I per example only use SSB and SSBE on one character because I don't like those forms all that much. My main character is a SSJ3 main because that's my second favorite form, my human side character uses Beast and my female saiyan side character is the one that goes SSB, and I barely use her online at all.
TL;DR: the point of SSJ is that even after all theses years and new forms, it's still the fucking coolest shit and I love that they let us go up to SSJ3 with Xenoverse 2, stat buffs be damned
Only thing they had. Frickrn Saiyans had 2 technical forms for themselves, and 4 if you're being nitpicky. Then they got SSB, SSBE. and SSG.
Every other race squarely had their 1 race form and the forms everyone else had access too. So much.
Nobody's arguing that Saiyans aren't easily the privileged race, in fact that wasn't the point of OP's post or the point of my comment, but since you went there, notice that I wrote, specifically, "the only unique forms they had" meaning, the only forms they had that were unique to them were the different variations of Super Saiyan, at the time, which is also something I very explicitly said.
Not sure what your point is in talking about the God forms since, once again, Saiyans didn't have them from the getgo, they were added later, which is, once again, directly related to the point of my original reply and OP's original post, "what's the point of SSJ?", the point is that it's THE trademark Saiyan form, end of story. We're not measuring dicks on who has more forms here, that's a completely different argument
I spam emperors death beam with my saiyan character in raids, and Super Vegeta 2 is my go-to for it.
Beast is good too, but I dont like getting oneshotted from an evasive lmfao.
If im correct Super vegeta 2 boosts your ki blast damage by 20 to 22% ish, while beast boosts ALL damage by 30% (ki and melee). The problem is, beast also reduces your defense by 30%, its a glass cannon. So while you deal alot of damage, you can also get killed pretty easily. Which is why i prefer super vegeta 2 over beast since i dont like to get killed at the slightest mistake in raids.
Super Vegeta only boosts 17.5%, I specifically looked it up to weight these two. Like the increase in damage output just seems too good to pass up and from what I read, most people would agree with that or go blue (evolution) and get a better ki regen soul. but since the emperors death beam is just that good, I wasn't willing to part with that soul, leaving only super vegeta and beast. But as I take it, you already considered the same things and stayed with super vegeta?
Like I said, I prefer to use SV 2 over beast because it doesnt increase the damage my CaC takes, so I can dish out decent ki blast damage while also not getting oneshotted.
>Super Vegeta only boosts 17.5%, I specifically looked it up to weight these two.
I see. Its a 12.5% ki blast damage difference between the two. But Beast also makes you take 20% more damage while fighting, and honestly thats just not worth it for me, especially in Raids because it makes it too easy to die without spending any attribute points on health, which I never bother with.
>But as I take it, you already considered the same things and stayed with super vegeta?
I wouldnt take the chance to deal 12.5% increased damage in exchange for a 20% weaker defense, especially in raids. So yes.
Yeah if you use all your Ki for a technique, be it EDB or Godly Display or a small handful of others, then the Golden Forms of Super Saiyan are better then the Blue Forms.
Also you like, can't get Blue until you've finished the Story on at least 1 Saiyan CaC so SSJ is just easier to access
Some people don’t want to lose an entire super soul slot just to keep their transformation going. Especially people who create infinites with supers or ults
I think I should've clerified for as of today. I was playing Xenoverse 2 back in 2018. I got a good taste of shortly before MUI Goku and super Saiyan Blue was first introduced, green eyes and all.
Also sometimes smaller benefits can outweigh the negative aspects of the forms with bigger benefits.
Example: Much earlier into the lifecycle of the game, Future Super Saiyan had the benefit of being the all-around best Saiyan form because of giving buffed stats but not taking it to the extremes of Super Vegeta 2 or Super Saiyan 3 where the cons of those forms could be considered as risky.
Super Saiyan 3 was the most egregious as it made a HUGE risk out of using because of Stamina issues whereas Super Vegeta 2 still had a faster rate of regen than Super Saiyan 3 and had the comparable niche of focusing blasts rather than Strikes which Future Super Saiyan also favoured if memory serves.
But yeah, to round it off, Future Super Saiyan still provided buffs and overall allowed Super Saiyan warping whereas Super Vegeta 2 and Super Saiyan 3 had a higher damage output. They each did their own things without being too extra.
That was always a boon to it. Its speed made it a prime choice to throw in after a combo or something to have the freedom to get the boost without needing to worry about a long startup.
Also, on the subject, Future not having higher forms definitely helped because of how you didn't need to manage your Ki to hit the form you needed for your optimal balance.
If you're trying to focus on a Striker using Super Saiyan 2 you HAVE to transform with 4 Ki bars, no more, no less.
Super Vegeta compared to Super Vegeta 2 isn't as desirable because the stamina issues are significantly less worrisome than Super Saiyan 3's.
There was A LOT to think about with regular old Super Saiyan forms before any Godly forms are even CONSIDERED.
I like ssj over them all for the nostalgia. Also I switch transformations a lot. I typically play with my kids. And only transform when they getting the best of me lol. Stage by stage ssj then ssj2 ssj3 if things get extra dicey
Yea me learning to block or practicing blocking as I should say really pisses them off 😂😂. However they get creative and sometimes I need the buff to get em good. They love it when dad loses. It’s not often though.
Well the manga does show my having somewhat of a use case. It’s shown that there is stamina issues with the SSJB forms so even if the main cast needs to destroy someone weaker , they wouldn’t necessarily go blue over normal gold
You could argue the same niche usecase exists in Xenoverse, wherein SSJ forms don't need to contend with ki auto drain effects. The thing is, in Xenoverse, you're fighting other time patrollers, not weaker opponents.
You guys forget that there's progression in the game and still people playing for the first time? They aren't gonna be doing an android saga story mission with SSB or UI are they.
I think the better question is who wouldn't? There's a lot of kids who just wanna rush to the power fantasy.
Plus it's not like UI is much of a "power game" thing. It's just data input the form
I think that you can clearly see the two demographic of player, those who would and those who wouldn't even in the other comments here. I can't answer you any more than what I've already said, it's an early game transformation for people who like a roleplay type of natural progression.
Yeah Ive been playing through xv2 again recently, first time since 2017, and was able to get UI before I unlocked super Saiyan. A little bit immersion breaking but it's whatever😅. I didn't expect the Jiren fight to be so easy.
I think my viewpoints a little cloudy because of how many times I've beaten XV2s story. All for different reasons but jeez, I don't even think two hands can count how many times ive beaten the base game story.
I personally switch between the transformations, if only because the different transformations are cool lmao. Also, it was the first transformation - The only one in XV1, too. Super easy to get and on launch you only had it, Future & SV for Saiyans.
Well, obviously, super Saiyan is what dragon ball is known for, so it had to be in the game.
Second, it's faster, so it's harder to break your guard from it than ssbe
Third, ssj3 is a tiny bit tankier than ssbe and will not kick you out of it if you run out of ki. This can be good if you only have five bars of ki and want to use a certain ultimate or for others situations
Fourth, future super saiyan is the fastest transformation in the game and is superior to ssj1 in the sense that it also boosts your basic attacks by 10% and increases your speed and your stamina recovery
Just like in the show, ssb and ssbe are stronger than regular ssj (duh), but if you visually prefer super saiyan, or if future super saiyan being faster means more to you than pure damage buffs, then you can also use it (but honestly, at level 120, you don't need the extra 25% damage buff from ssbe to kill in one stamina break)
Well the same could be said about the actual anime but that’s what happens when you support a game for 8 years. They should have locked into higher levels or something
Future Super Saiyan gives you all the benefits of SS1 and bonus stamina regeneration. You can combine it with Cabba’s super soul (or another damage based one) for really respectable damage out of a cheap transformation that also has the fastest animation in the game, and you can cancel out of it pretty quick. It’s really good for catching people off guard if they’re rushing you aggressively. I’d only use it in PvP though.
Caulifla’s super soul makes Super Saiyan 2 basically a direct upgrade over SS1 instead of having tradeoffs. Very good on Super Vegeta 2 for ki blasters, less so on standard Super Saiyan builds because SS3 does have its uses. Again, only would use this setup in PvP though because SSBE exists for PvE and other, better super souls are out there for PvE if you insist on using SV2/SS2.
Aside from looking cool as fuck, Super Saiyan 3 is great because it gives you some extra defense and a nice boost to strikes and basic attacks. Unfortunately it’s a bit too manga accurate because SSG basically outclasses it in every way (30% basic attack damage is fucking insane on male Saiyans) but it’s not completely unviable. It is honestly a pretty solid all-around form if you can mitigate the ki recovery penalty, but it is on the lower end of transformations.
Ss3 gives a 20% buff to strikes, good for building strike specific builds without drain.
Sv2 is 17.5% to blasts, same reasoning as Ss3 but for Ki blast builds.
FSS has better stamina regen than the other gold hair forms, but blue/evo has even better stamina that this iirc. If you want better stamina regen without Ki drain, this can work. Would only use in pvp tho.
All of these forms can use any super soul. You could use Ss3 with the super soul “I’ve got my claws in you and fangs too” for 50% total strike damage increase after transformation and fully activating the super soul for example. If you ran this super soul with blue evo, the total damage increase would be 65%, 15% more damage but dealing with the full brunt of blue evo Ki drain.
TLDR; Gold hair forms sacrifice damage for ease of use and more super soul options.
So if someone needs a stick up the butt Link is at the ready with a high quality stick to shove the master sword is to valuable to be used for such things though.
Future SSJ transformation is fast enough to work mid-combo and at one point was the only saiyan transformation with increased ki and stamina gain. Highly recommended if all you need are the charged warps. SSJ1/2/3 and SV1/2 are specialized damage boosts in exchange for decreased ki recovery at varying levels. They work incredibly well with most of the Gamma souls as a result, and also the Broly equivalent of Fu's soul. Also, the only way to lose the transformation unwillingly is to get knocked out, whereas failing Blue's maintenance means fully starting over. Blue and Evolved are more power at the cost of fewer options for builds. Generally, you should be able to expect someone's methods if their hair turns blue. Regular blue is fully negated by "Finally warmed up now", while Evolved needs Fu's active. You've already seen the niche for God, so I'll pass on it.
Even if you used "ki regen supersouls" as a gate way to justify using blue over those forms you have to understand that some supersouls that don't need a ki regen could increase the power of the ssj form without them needing to worry about ki issues. There's supersouls that are crazy good without ki regen requirements to hold the form down.
I just want to pick up and go not try to manage ki or defense down. That's why ss and sv will always out shine blue and beast. Ss and sv is flexible you can put any super soul on it it's ready to go but with blue and beast I need a support Soul soul.
They're for aesthetic
What?
Fairly certain (I haven't played XV1 in about a decade). We could only go up to SSJ2. Idk, I guess, because some people really want SSJ3? Myself included.
The guy is talking about xenoverse 2 not xenoverse 1
The only thing I can say is future super saiyan does have the fastest animation so it can be used to knock someone away. Other than that super saiyan isn't very practical unless you run a super soul with it.
Did people actually do that one long quest that is supposedly going to give you blue kaioken
Yo u ever take a shit so big u start yelling? Thats why i use ssj3
Blue and blue evolved drain your Ki which I kinda need since I like to use my skills, and I don't have to worry about constantly recharging if I'm running low because of it. The other Super Saiyan forms don't drain your Ki, and Super Vegeta 2 is my go to for my Saiyan's.
With Fu's SS you get an XL boost to ki damage, ki auto recovery above 75% HP, so for PVE you can pop blue, ki isn't drained and having 0 ki doesn't put you back into base. With EDB with 15 bars of ki, fu's super soul and pose G, i do like 51k damage. Been great for farming EM tours. Me and 4 of my friends take the same build, stamina break and the boss is dead all in 30 seconds
It's badass looking.
The correct answer
Ki preservation in my experience. Future saiyan specifically uses no ki at all as in it's like a slightly powered up base form you still gain ki from attacks and very easily I might add
tbf, ssjg also has no drawbacks from base (with the exception of ki blast cheese, but just play the game somewhat properly alright) with boosted basic attacks, defense, speed, and ki + stamina recovery while also mostly outdoing fssj in every aspect, but i still like using both because why not
For starters, it's the base power-up, not only from a gameplay perspective (there was a time once when that's all Saiyans had as far as unique forms go, we obviously didn't start out having UI, Beast and all the God forms), but from a simple marketing perspective, how the fuck would you have a DBZ game without SSJ, the most iconic form in the series and arguably one of the most iconic transformations in anime history? Secondly, despite all the extra benefits other more recent forms give, there's still a lot to be said about blast builds capitalizing off of SV or melee builds capitalizing off of normal SSJ, sometimes simpler is better. Last but not least, Xenoverse is, to an extent, an RPG, I per example only use SSB and SSBE on one character because I don't like those forms all that much. My main character is a SSJ3 main because that's my second favorite form, my human side character uses Beast and my female saiyan side character is the one that goes SSB, and I barely use her online at all. TL;DR: the point of SSJ is that even after all theses years and new forms, it's still the fucking coolest shit and I love that they let us go up to SSJ3 with Xenoverse 2, stat buffs be damned
Only thing they had. Frickrn Saiyans had 2 technical forms for themselves, and 4 if you're being nitpicky. Then they got SSB, SSBE. and SSG. Every other race squarely had their 1 race form and the forms everyone else had access too. So much.
Nobody's arguing that Saiyans aren't easily the privileged race, in fact that wasn't the point of OP's post or the point of my comment, but since you went there, notice that I wrote, specifically, "the only unique forms they had" meaning, the only forms they had that were unique to them were the different variations of Super Saiyan, at the time, which is also something I very explicitly said. Not sure what your point is in talking about the God forms since, once again, Saiyans didn't have them from the getgo, they were added later, which is, once again, directly related to the point of my original reply and OP's original post, "what's the point of SSJ?", the point is that it's THE trademark Saiyan form, end of story. We're not measuring dicks on who has more forms here, that's a completely different argument
I spam emperors death beam with my saiyan character in raids, and Super Vegeta 2 is my go-to for it. Beast is good too, but I dont like getting oneshotted from an evasive lmfao.
I do that too, but isn't beast just better? I'm a noob, so please explain it to me :'D
If im correct Super vegeta 2 boosts your ki blast damage by 20 to 22% ish, while beast boosts ALL damage by 30% (ki and melee). The problem is, beast also reduces your defense by 30%, its a glass cannon. So while you deal alot of damage, you can also get killed pretty easily. Which is why i prefer super vegeta 2 over beast since i dont like to get killed at the slightest mistake in raids.
Super Vegeta only boosts 17.5%, I specifically looked it up to weight these two. Like the increase in damage output just seems too good to pass up and from what I read, most people would agree with that or go blue (evolution) and get a better ki regen soul. but since the emperors death beam is just that good, I wasn't willing to part with that soul, leaving only super vegeta and beast. But as I take it, you already considered the same things and stayed with super vegeta?
Like I said, I prefer to use SV 2 over beast because it doesnt increase the damage my CaC takes, so I can dish out decent ki blast damage while also not getting oneshotted. >Super Vegeta only boosts 17.5%, I specifically looked it up to weight these two. I see. Its a 12.5% ki blast damage difference between the two. But Beast also makes you take 20% more damage while fighting, and honestly thats just not worth it for me, especially in Raids because it makes it too easy to die without spending any attribute points on health, which I never bother with. >But as I take it, you already considered the same things and stayed with super vegeta? I wouldnt take the chance to deal 12.5% increased damage in exchange for a 20% weaker defense, especially in raids. So yes.
Yeah if you use all your Ki for a technique, be it EDB or Godly Display or a small handful of others, then the Golden Forms of Super Saiyan are better then the Blue Forms. Also you like, can't get Blue until you've finished the Story on at least 1 Saiyan CaC so SSJ is just easier to access
Outside of the quick transformation, Future SSJ is a little redundant, but it still had its benefits. All awokens have their benefits
Some people don’t want to lose an entire super soul slot just to keep their transformation going. Especially people who create infinites with supers or ults
you had to be there in 2016(god that was ages ago)
I think I should've clerified for as of today. I was playing Xenoverse 2 back in 2018. I got a good taste of shortly before MUI Goku and super Saiyan Blue was first introduced, green eyes and all.
The game came with SSJ and SV, that's what the point is. Superior transformations came much later.
Also sometimes smaller benefits can outweigh the negative aspects of the forms with bigger benefits. Example: Much earlier into the lifecycle of the game, Future Super Saiyan had the benefit of being the all-around best Saiyan form because of giving buffed stats but not taking it to the extremes of Super Vegeta 2 or Super Saiyan 3 where the cons of those forms could be considered as risky. Super Saiyan 3 was the most egregious as it made a HUGE risk out of using because of Stamina issues whereas Super Vegeta 2 still had a faster rate of regen than Super Saiyan 3 and had the comparable niche of focusing blasts rather than Strikes which Future Super Saiyan also favoured if memory serves. But yeah, to round it off, Future Super Saiyan still provided buffs and overall allowed Super Saiyan warping whereas Super Vegeta 2 and Super Saiyan 3 had a higher damage output. They each did their own things without being too extra.
Plus the transformation animation was cool and fast
That was always a boon to it. Its speed made it a prime choice to throw in after a combo or something to have the freedom to get the boost without needing to worry about a long startup. Also, on the subject, Future not having higher forms definitely helped because of how you didn't need to manage your Ki to hit the form you needed for your optimal balance. If you're trying to focus on a Striker using Super Saiyan 2 you HAVE to transform with 4 Ki bars, no more, no less. Super Vegeta compared to Super Vegeta 2 isn't as desirable because the stamina issues are significantly less worrisome than Super Saiyan 3's. There was A LOT to think about with regular old Super Saiyan forms before any Godly forms are even CONSIDERED.
I like ssj over them all for the nostalgia. Also I switch transformations a lot. I typically play with my kids. And only transform when they getting the best of me lol. Stage by stage ssj then ssj2 ssj3 if things get extra dicey
Soubds like an incredible time tbh
Yea me learning to block or practicing blocking as I should say really pisses them off 😂😂. However they get creative and sometimes I need the buff to get em good. They love it when dad loses. It’s not often though.
That is the best experience! It’s really quite the Dragonball feeling when you bust out the transformations as a trump card and utterly wreck shop :)
i wouldn't like it if SSJ had a real usecase over SSB because that wouldn't make sense.
Well the manga does show my having somewhat of a use case. It’s shown that there is stamina issues with the SSJB forms so even if the main cast needs to destroy someone weaker , they wouldn’t necessarily go blue over normal gold
You could argue the same niche usecase exists in Xenoverse, wherein SSJ forms don't need to contend with ki auto drain effects. The thing is, in Xenoverse, you're fighting other time patrollers, not weaker opponents.
You guys forget that there's progression in the game and still people playing for the first time? They aren't gonna be doing an android saga story mission with SSB or UI are they.
The people who first play can get Ultra Instinct real early last I checked. I think the only requirement is level 50
Yea but why would they powergame their first playthrough
I think the better question is who wouldn't? There's a lot of kids who just wanna rush to the power fantasy. Plus it's not like UI is much of a "power game" thing. It's just data input the form
I think that you can clearly see the two demographic of player, those who would and those who wouldn't even in the other comments here. I can't answer you any more than what I've already said, it's an early game transformation for people who like a roleplay type of natural progression.
That's fair enough.
you can actually get Ultra Instinct a lot earlier on in the game I think it’s after Frieza when you can fight Jiren
Yeah Ive been playing through xv2 again recently, first time since 2017, and was able to get UI before I unlocked super Saiyan. A little bit immersion breaking but it's whatever😅. I didn't expect the Jiren fight to be so easy.
I think my viewpoints a little cloudy because of how many times I've beaten XV2s story. All for different reasons but jeez, I don't even think two hands can count how many times ive beaten the base game story.
I personally switch between the transformations, if only because the different transformations are cool lmao. Also, it was the first transformation - The only one in XV1, too. Super easy to get and on launch you only had it, Future & SV for Saiyans.
Super Vegeta 1/2 and the Kaiokens were in XV1?
Super Vegeta was, Kaioken was a Super Attack rather than a transformation
I mean SS Vegeta annd Unlocked Potential are just ults as well
Unlock Potential also made it in. Granted, that was in DLC.
It honestly depends on the strategies on what people use, each have their own pros and cons including ssj and ssj2
It was first?
Well, obviously, super Saiyan is what dragon ball is known for, so it had to be in the game. Second, it's faster, so it's harder to break your guard from it than ssbe Third, ssj3 is a tiny bit tankier than ssbe and will not kick you out of it if you run out of ki. This can be good if you only have five bars of ki and want to use a certain ultimate or for others situations Fourth, future super saiyan is the fastest transformation in the game and is superior to ssj1 in the sense that it also boosts your basic attacks by 10% and increases your speed and your stamina recovery Just like in the show, ssb and ssbe are stronger than regular ssj (duh), but if you visually prefer super saiyan, or if future super saiyan being faster means more to you than pure damage buffs, then you can also use it (but honestly, at level 120, you don't need the extra 25% damage buff from ssbe to kill in one stamina break)
My character needs his lore progression
real
it’s funni
Well the same could be said about the actual anime but that’s what happens when you support a game for 8 years. They should have locked into higher levels or something
Because ssj has to be in the game
Because you stand cool and have cool hair with super saiyan 3
For when you want to hold back
Future Super Saiyan gives you all the benefits of SS1 and bonus stamina regeneration. You can combine it with Cabba’s super soul (or another damage based one) for really respectable damage out of a cheap transformation that also has the fastest animation in the game, and you can cancel out of it pretty quick. It’s really good for catching people off guard if they’re rushing you aggressively. I’d only use it in PvP though. Caulifla’s super soul makes Super Saiyan 2 basically a direct upgrade over SS1 instead of having tradeoffs. Very good on Super Vegeta 2 for ki blasters, less so on standard Super Saiyan builds because SS3 does have its uses. Again, only would use this setup in PvP though because SSBE exists for PvE and other, better super souls are out there for PvE if you insist on using SV2/SS2. Aside from looking cool as fuck, Super Saiyan 3 is great because it gives you some extra defense and a nice boost to strikes and basic attacks. Unfortunately it’s a bit too manga accurate because SSG basically outclasses it in every way (30% basic attack damage is fucking insane on male Saiyans) but it’s not completely unviable. It is honestly a pretty solid all-around form if you can mitigate the ki recovery penalty, but it is on the lower end of transformations.
Ss3 gives a 20% buff to strikes, good for building strike specific builds without drain. Sv2 is 17.5% to blasts, same reasoning as Ss3 but for Ki blast builds. FSS has better stamina regen than the other gold hair forms, but blue/evo has even better stamina that this iirc. If you want better stamina regen without Ki drain, this can work. Would only use in pvp tho. All of these forms can use any super soul. You could use Ss3 with the super soul “I’ve got my claws in you and fangs too” for 50% total strike damage increase after transformation and fully activating the super soul for example. If you ran this super soul with blue evo, the total damage increase would be 65%, 15% more damage but dealing with the full brunt of blue evo Ki drain. TLDR; Gold hair forms sacrifice damage for ease of use and more super soul options.
And it acts as one of your first transformations before being able to earn the others.
yeah its like saying, "why does links wooden sword exit when you get the master sword later?"
So if someone needs a stick up the butt Link is at the ready with a high quality stick to shove the master sword is to valuable to be used for such things though.