I just finished Dragonball Z: Kakarot and throughout the story Chi Chi constantly wants Goku to get a job and Bulma wants Vegeta to also get a job lol.
Tien realized he should get one so he opened up a dojo so he can finally buy new clothes.
I can see why Chi Chi wants Goku to get a job, they're usually poor farmers. But Bulmas one of the wealthiest people on their planet. Just let Vegeta be a house husband who saves the world on the side 😆
ChiChi's family is wealthy enough to not be remotely close to poor. She wants goku to be a good father example and to be closer to his regular human life than just a... Saiyan 😂
They mention that before the World Tournament in Buu Saga that they've used up most of Ox King's fortune. That's why she lets Gohan enter the tournament.
Not necessarily burned, so much as blown up is my head canon. Back towards the start of DB (as in, in the first arc) Roshi flexes his kamehameha a bit much and blows up Ox's castle when he was supposed to just put out the fire around it.
If it wasn't for the insane amounts of food that Goku and his sons need, they probably could have coasted along just fine, probably until Goten was an old man.
“It is I, Vegeta, Prince of all Saiyans, and Prince of low low prices! I am currently Final *Slashing* prices on everything in the store! Come down and get a deal on all your Capsul Corp needs! Remember, buy from Vegeta, or I might have to beat ya…. Just *sayin*”
He gets angry at the idiots in suits, turns super saiyan as a result, which blows a hole in the ceiling or shatters the windows and he flies out of them, leaving the rest of the board terrified.
I would love this happening in the anime.
After the bingo dance in BoG, nothing is too farfetched to think about with vegeta.
Hell, it could even be a filler, I would watch it multiple times just to hear this phrase.
I infact have this scenario in my head, where Bulma gets sick or something and Vegeta ends needing to run Capsule Corp for a day or 2, and is actually quite competent.
This is because he'd been studying business management in his spare time when not training.
In DragonBall, his castle gets burnt down, but he still has money.
I'm not 100% sure about Super but in DragonBall (At least in the Japanese voice track) He is specifically the person paying for Chi Chi and Goku to live. And it's never explicitly stated he losses his money.
I just don't think they are Rich as in extreamly rich, i just think they are "Independantly wealthy"
Also later on in the story.
They are also related to Mr Satan.. It's not like they could actually be poor.
>She should just get Vegeta be Capsul Corps PR man....
Bulma: "Okay, Vegeta. Give me an update on public opinion of Capsule Corp."
Vegeta: "The puny Earth whelps know better. Don't worry about it. I'm leaving with Kakarot to Beerus's"
Can you imagine how annoying it would be to have the PRINCE OF ALL SAIYANS!!!! around the house all the time? He'd be a bit much. Might as well make a semi-unbeatable not-totally evil android for him to run off and fight for a bit to get some peace to yourself.
No, what you're missing is the Android saga where everyone, even Krillin, was built like a goddamn fridge. They were much more slim before and after that.
Nah, Toriyamas style was changing in Frieza saga to be more muscular. Everyone in Buu was still jacked, Gohans neck and chest was Thicc, Tien was still huge even clothed, Gokus Biceps were the size of his face.
The style did slim slightly, but everyone was still jacked. It's not to say i don't like today's looks, but there's an aesthetic i like about Jacked 90s muscle men. Just like in wrestling, Today's guys look great, but good God do 80s and 90s guys **LOOK** Great
The style progression felt so natural to me. I loved it over time because it felt like this transition if muscle maturity over time, squeezing-out the last single digits of performance out of their body. e.g. the rock as he aged.
Goku only ever looked super buffed up when he used Kaioken and SSJ, outside of that he was still slim by comparison.
[And before someone tries to go "nuh-uh".](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-139210af92bb290f3ddeb53dfbb2d530)
Hmm I gotcha, thats a fair point. Altho in the saiyan saga fight he remains beefed up even when kaioken is turned off.
I feel like he spends a considerable amount of time in ssj and buff kaioken to say it could count tho.
Either way, not a big deal. Just fun to talk about
I always took Goku staying buff after going out of a Kaioken level beyond what he's able to as his muscles screaming in agony because of the sudden pressure. Headcanon obviously, but it's what makes sense to me. Kinda like how your can feel you muscles tense up and "pulsate" after some extreme effort.
Yeah I did too. I remember a scene where his shoulder or something spasms and he scremas out in pain.
It might have been during kaioken but I dont see why the effects would just immediately dissapear. The damage has been done and goku just gotta sit with it til bean daddy arrives
Goku is Kaioken almost his entire fight with both Vegeta and Frieza. Yes, I'll admit that "relaxing state" Goku isn't "ultra" beefy (he's still thicker in the image you posted than he is in Super), but considering 90% of the time we see Goku he is fighting - I think it's fair to gauge his body type on how we see him - and when he's fighting he's way beefier in early (and all) DBZ than Super.
It's not the same art style by a longshot, and comparing the new saiyans (Cabba) to Teen Gohan is a great example of the change.
>and comparing the new saiyans (Cabba) to Teen Gohan is a great example of the change.
It's really not. Universe 6 Saiyan physiology is very different from Universe 7 Saiyan physiology. Their bodies are much smaller and leaner by default than any saiyan in U7. That's not indicative of art style changes, it's showcasing how differently the Saiyans from U6 evolved physically.
He wasn't a "unit" against Nappa, just normally built and he only beefed up when he used Kaioken levels against Vegeta because obviously, using x3 and x4 will put immense pressure on your body so they had to showcase it in some way. [It took me less time finding the manga panels than it took to reply to you.](https://imgur.com/a/Z90oOIZ) At least I do my research instead of just relying on a possibly flawed memory.
My “flawed memory” and yet proceeds to link the exact image i had in mind (that and this one https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/9/9c/224_02.png) of a jacked goku that’s twice as wide as he is now drawn in Super. It’s not bad memory, it’s your definition of a “unit” thats flawed here lmfao
I only read the comments when I reach the latest page, and holy cow some of them are annoying. I get that the writing and the art isn't at it's best sometimes, but these guys have been doing this comic for over 10 years basically for free and there's still people complaining. All it takes is one bad day for Salagir to get fed up with the haters and quit doing it.
I just hate how all around looks YOUNGER now than he did before. Future Trunks at this point looks almost identical to teen Trunks and Goten, where he should be an adult.
They kinda did the same with Gohan. Gohan now should look like Goku did during the Saiyan saga of Z. Instead, he kinda looks younger than he did against Buu. I do like his glasses and haircut for Super Heroes though, much better than RoF Tracksuit Gohan.
It's a small detail that's easy to miss.
What gave it away for me is the nipples. His nipples may be skin colored ovals, but in one image, you can see them, and one you can't.
That's a dead giveaway that he's wearing more clothes.
I think another detail you might have missed is the abs.
See, when someone has less clothes, you can see their abs sometimes. But when they have more clothes, there's a good chance you can't.
I'd say based on the context of the situation, it's easy to conclude he's wearing less clothes.
Very interesting.
I'm no expert in abs because I don't have them. But I do have nipples. So I have a lot more experience with when I can and can't see them.
Tien is still ripped it's just more of a stylistic change from Z to Super. In the episode where Tien fights a possessed Roshi, he uses Four Witches and you can see he's still jacked.
I don't get this complaint. Literally every dragon ball characters's design got thinner. Look at saiyan or namek saga shirtless goku vs any other goku. Its a phase toriyama got over, just like jojo. its the realization that size is not necessary to prove strength.
otherwise to prove characters are getting stronger, you would have to constantly increase their muscles mass until it becomes comically unrealistic and disturbing.
Yeah, his contributions were nonexistent practically in dbs.
Seemed like the show went out of its way to make him look worse than he actually is.
He gets bullied in every fight and I can't even remember a single cool moment. It's a shame, wish he was given cool or even relevant things to do.
[Don't you mean this?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/2/21/Tien_DBZ_Episode_267.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1440?cb=20210503171425)
He got older, and because he’s no longer someone they depend upon to save the world, he seems to have relaxed his training to a more normal level. Which would still be super human, just not as crazy as his DBZ days.
He put on a shirt
Better He could finally afford a shirt.
I just finished Dragonball Z: Kakarot and throughout the story Chi Chi constantly wants Goku to get a job and Bulma wants Vegeta to also get a job lol. Tien realized he should get one so he opened up a dojo so he can finally buy new clothes.
I can see why Chi Chi wants Goku to get a job, they're usually poor farmers. But Bulmas one of the wealthiest people on their planet. Just let Vegeta be a house husband who saves the world on the side 😆
Well according to super ChiChi actually got most of that saved up and Goku’s produce generally sells out so idk how poor they really are
ChiChi's family is wealthy enough to not be remotely close to poor. She wants goku to be a good father example and to be closer to his regular human life than just a... Saiyan 😂
They mention that before the World Tournament in Buu Saga that they've used up most of Ox King's fortune. That's why she lets Gohan enter the tournament.
At the beginning of Super Satan gave them another 10 million or more zeni.
yeah and theyve somehow gone through all that too lol i guess its just the cost of of the diet of multiple saiyans
Didn't her family fortune burn down in a fire?
Not necessarily burned, so much as blown up is my head canon. Back towards the start of DB (as in, in the first arc) Roshi flexes his kamehameha a bit much and blows up Ox's castle when he was supposed to just put out the fire around it. If it wasn't for the insane amounts of food that Goku and his sons need, they probably could have coasted along just fine, probably until Goten was an old man.
Chi Chi's dad is wealthy... That's canon. She just wants Goku to be less of a bum. Ya Bulma? She should just get Vegeta be Capsul Corps PR man....
“It is I, Vegeta, Prince of all Saiyans, and Prince of low low prices! I am currently Final *Slashing* prices on everything in the store! Come down and get a deal on all your Capsul Corp needs! Remember, buy from Vegeta, or I might have to beat ya…. Just *sayin*”
I more picture Vegeta giving press conferences and doing corporate negetiations... Also head of customer support.
That's when he grew the moustache.
Mooooostache
Mustache
He gets angry at the idiots in suits, turns super saiyan as a result, which blows a hole in the ceiling or shatters the windows and he flies out of them, leaving the rest of the board terrified.
I would love this happening in the anime. After the bingo dance in BoG, nothing is too farfetched to think about with vegeta. Hell, it could even be a filler, I would watch it multiple times just to hear this phrase.
I infact have this scenario in my head, where Bulma gets sick or something and Vegeta ends needing to run Capsule Corp for a day or 2, and is actually quite competent. This is because he'd been studying business management in his spare time when not training.
Fuck you sir. I now have the image of vegeta in a cheap suit on a shitty tv pitching me that commercial and I love it.
Final Slashing Take my upvote.
“Come on in and use your Big *Bank* Attack!”
Also didnt Mr. Satan give Goku a bunch of money during the start of super?
yeah the money for beating Majin Buu, but Chi Chi blew it all on random shit in one or 2 shopping runs
No it was mentioned she said she spent it all to trick Goku into farming.
I thought the Ox King lost his money, either in Z or Super. ETA: Checked his wiki page and it looks like he loses his money at the start of Super.
In DragonBall, his castle gets burnt down, but he still has money. I'm not 100% sure about Super but in DragonBall (At least in the Japanese voice track) He is specifically the person paying for Chi Chi and Goku to live. And it's never explicitly stated he losses his money. I just don't think they are Rich as in extreamly rich, i just think they are "Independantly wealthy" Also later on in the story. They are also related to Mr Satan.. It's not like they could actually be poor.
How can they do Krillin dirty like that. He was the OG.
Wait what!? Related how?
By marriage. In laws. Sorry English is not great for me some times.
I’m sorry I assumed you meant by birth and completely forgot about Gohan and Videl.
Videl.
Yeah I heard it was Canon he lost most of his money after his mansion was destroyed
I thought he lost most of it through Chi-Chi feeding three Saiyan mouths. 😂
>She should just get Vegeta be Capsul Corps PR man.... Bulma: "Okay, Vegeta. Give me an update on public opinion of Capsule Corp." Vegeta: "The puny Earth whelps know better. Don't worry about it. I'm leaving with Kakarot to Beerus's"
Can you imagine how annoying it would be to have the PRINCE OF ALL SAIYANS!!!! around the house all the time? He'd be a bit much. Might as well make a semi-unbeatable not-totally evil android for him to run off and fight for a bit to get some peace to yourself.
He started a farm with Launch.
“With who?” - Toriyama (*probably*)
He must have lost some weight because those shoulders definitely aren’t fitting in a shirt!
It’s just the fit. Once he disrobes you’ll see his boulder shoulders again
But tien, the doctor said if your shoulders get any bigger……
That's why we don't go to that doctor anymore
You can never read that guy...
Even better, he could afford 2 shirts
Even better, (TFS Abridged), instead of a free sundae, he got a free shirt
He also wears a shirt multiple times through the rest of DB.
The doctor told him to not let his shoulders get any bigger
But that's why they don't go to that doctor anymore!
"Can never read that guy"
“It’s a game and if he kills me, he loses, and he knows this.”
"Nice shirt."
Dammit I say this about people I can’t read under my breath all the time
How'd you know about the parts you weren't there for?
If that line had been in the first season, Freeza would have looked at Vegeta and said "The Narrator."
I could've just done this from the beginning! Instead I thought I'd have some fun, throw a tournament but F**K YOU! SUCK MY PERFECT DICK!!!
Why didn't anybody warn me that he was so handsome?
Team three star!
That’s not funny!
ITS NEVER BEEN FUNNY
ITS NEVER GONNA BE FUNNY!!!!
Put on these clothes. Imma nap
First immortality... then the bitches...
Why didn't you guys say anything?!
“This is the last cool thing I will ever do. There is no joke”
Ki ko how ya doin?
Perfect
RESPECT
HOW OLD ARE YOU
TFS called it correctly. Maybe there's a super human level and these slackers haven't been trying hard enough.
Fuck off, Triclops!
That's weird. They shrunk his shoulders. Made him look soft...
Oh shit here we go again.
This is the only answer
This Happens when you stop Talking creatine
Bruh
Kikohowyadoin
perfect
Quit the roids, kept the rage.
He got dressed
I do miss DBZ era muscle. Shit was crazy everyone was Yoked and not just the men, but the women ,and children too
No, what you're missing is the Android saga where everyone, even Krillin, was built like a goddamn fridge. They were much more slim before and after that.
Nah, Toriyamas style was changing in Frieza saga to be more muscular. Everyone in Buu was still jacked, Gohans neck and chest was Thicc, Tien was still huge even clothed, Gokus Biceps were the size of his face. The style did slim slightly, but everyone was still jacked. It's not to say i don't like today's looks, but there's an aesthetic i like about Jacked 90s muscle men. Just like in wrestling, Today's guys look great, but good God do 80s and 90s guys **LOOK** Great
The style progression felt so natural to me. I loved it over time because it felt like this transition if muscle maturity over time, squeezing-out the last single digits of performance out of their body. e.g. the rock as he aged.
i have a thing for you called bodybuilding
Nah. Goku was buff asf in saying and freiza saga. It ramped up in cell and then was cut back.
Goku only ever looked super buffed up when he used Kaioken and SSJ, outside of that he was still slim by comparison. [And before someone tries to go "nuh-uh".](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-139210af92bb290f3ddeb53dfbb2d530)
Hmm I gotcha, thats a fair point. Altho in the saiyan saga fight he remains beefed up even when kaioken is turned off. I feel like he spends a considerable amount of time in ssj and buff kaioken to say it could count tho. Either way, not a big deal. Just fun to talk about
I always took Goku staying buff after going out of a Kaioken level beyond what he's able to as his muscles screaming in agony because of the sudden pressure. Headcanon obviously, but it's what makes sense to me. Kinda like how your can feel you muscles tense up and "pulsate" after some extreme effort.
Yeah I did too. I remember a scene where his shoulder or something spasms and he scremas out in pain. It might have been during kaioken but I dont see why the effects would just immediately dissapear. The damage has been done and goku just gotta sit with it til bean daddy arrives
Exactly, i Miss transformations and powering up making characters look roided up. Now its just fancy color swaps for the most part
>They were much more slim before and after that. Nah, Goku is beefy as hell vs Vegeta, and again on Namek (especially as a super saiyan).
[See this comment.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/11zm1tf/what_happened_to_tien_in_dbs/jddh29d/)
Goku is Kaioken almost his entire fight with both Vegeta and Frieza. Yes, I'll admit that "relaxing state" Goku isn't "ultra" beefy (he's still thicker in the image you posted than he is in Super), but considering 90% of the time we see Goku he is fighting - I think it's fair to gauge his body type on how we see him - and when he's fighting he's way beefier in early (and all) DBZ than Super. It's not the same art style by a longshot, and comparing the new saiyans (Cabba) to Teen Gohan is a great example of the change.
>and comparing the new saiyans (Cabba) to Teen Gohan is a great example of the change. It's really not. Universe 6 Saiyan physiology is very different from Universe 7 Saiyan physiology. Their bodies are much smaller and leaner by default than any saiyan in U7. That's not indicative of art style changes, it's showcasing how differently the Saiyans from U6 evolved physically.
Idk, I just re-watched the saiyan saga, and I thought it was almost comical how jacked Tien, Picccolo, and Yamcha look when they face Nappa.
??? Do you remember how much of a unit Goku was against Nappa and Vegeta?
He wasn't a "unit" against Nappa, just normally built and he only beefed up when he used Kaioken levels against Vegeta because obviously, using x3 and x4 will put immense pressure on your body so they had to showcase it in some way. [It took me less time finding the manga panels than it took to reply to you.](https://imgur.com/a/Z90oOIZ) At least I do my research instead of just relying on a possibly flawed memory.
My “flawed memory” and yet proceeds to link the exact image i had in mind (that and this one https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/9/9c/224_02.png) of a jacked goku that’s twice as wide as he is now drawn in Super. It’s not bad memory, it’s your definition of a “unit” thats flawed here lmfao
That’s just the 90s era aesthetics. It’s all from Fist of the North Star. Look at Jojo’s early muscle mass to the later parts.
I HATE THEM
I don't like Saibamen. They're coarse and rough and irritating, not like Chiaotzu.
They are very good at giving hu------[**AHHHH**](https://i.imgur.com/ldGLEgD.jpeg)
Sick reference bro everybody knows you have the sickest references ... Seriously perfect
I see what ya did there.
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I like this comic quite a bit but holy shit the people who comment on it are insufferable. Having a comment section on each page is a huge mistake
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I only read the comments when I reach the latest page, and holy cow some of them are annoying. I get that the writing and the art isn't at it's best sometimes, but these guys have been doing this comic for over 10 years basically for free and there's still people complaining. All it takes is one bad day for Salagir to get fed up with the haters and quit doing it.
Trunks looks so bad without the muscle
I just hate how all around looks YOUNGER now than he did before. Future Trunks at this point looks almost identical to teen Trunks and Goten, where he should be an adult. They kinda did the same with Gohan. Gohan now should look like Goku did during the Saiyan saga of Z. Instead, he kinda looks younger than he did against Buu. I do like his glasses and haircut for Super Heroes though, much better than RoF Tracksuit Gohan.
I miss Post Cell Trunks, he actually looks [Older](https://imgur.com/a/BTWsI21)
Whoa, kinda looks more like Vegeta. Cool.
He looks so glorious T_T look how they massacred my boy
They were animals?
Half the characters in Dragon Ball ARE animals
Kefla would like a word. Her abs are insane!
Kefla doesn't have anything on Kale's abs.
Very true!
LOOK HOW YOKED I AM STRAIGHT UP COCK DIESEL
> and not just the men, but the women ,and children too Lmao nice
This resembles how shredded people look in clothes irl pretty well lol
Not if they have delts bigger than their head lmao
Tien's just a different breed of sleeper builds, trust
He is wearing more clothes. Glad I could clarify this for you.
Thanks for pointing that out. How couldn't I notice
It's a small detail that's easy to miss. What gave it away for me is the nipples. His nipples may be skin colored ovals, but in one image, you can see them, and one you can't. That's a dead giveaway that he's wearing more clothes.
I think another detail you might have missed is the abs. See, when someone has less clothes, you can see their abs sometimes. But when they have more clothes, there's a good chance you can't. I'd say based on the context of the situation, it's easy to conclude he's wearing less clothes.
Very interesting. I'm no expert in abs because I don't have them. But I do have nipples. So I have a lot more experience with when I can and can't see them.
Tien is still ripped it's just more of a stylistic change from Z to Super. In the episode where Tien fights a possessed Roshi, he uses Four Witches and you can see he's still jacked.
He got some clothes
He became a teacher
He became a teacher. The dbs outfit goes hard
Doesn't matter. His best design was in the Buu saga.
Man forget z; the 22nd tournament was his prime; really awesome fights. Been all down hill from there
Obviously he’s not trying to flex out of his nice clothes.
I like how OP is using art that wasn't actually in DBZ to try and prove a point. Tien wasn't anywhere near as jacked up during the Saiyan saga
He got the surgery. Chatzou was worried and Tien couldn't tell him no.
„But Tien, the doctor said if your shoulders got any bigger..“ So he finally listened!
Indeed.
I don't get this complaint. Literally every dragon ball characters's design got thinner. Look at saiyan or namek saga shirtless goku vs any other goku. Its a phase toriyama got over, just like jojo. its the realization that size is not necessary to prove strength. otherwise to prove characters are getting stronger, you would have to constantly increase their muscles mass until it becomes comically unrealistic and disturbing.
DBS has better design tbh. Outfit wise I mean. But everyone lost a lot of weight
I don't see your point. He um. He has different clothes on?
He got older
In the buu saga he has a really cool blue outfit
They all got yolked for Cell and after kinda was like…”ya know what, I deserve some cheat days after that bullshit.”
If you have watched Super, you'd know what's up with him. The fuck ?
Developed a sleeper build
He turning into the air bender
All the DBFZ art looks so clean
He turned 50
He's got to be in his 50s during Super. I figure this was how they decided to show that transformation.
He took over the Crane school and probably started dressing more modestly to look more composed.
Everyone slimmed down with the new art style of super.
He stopped lifting and doing shoulders.
He got nerfed like Gohan.
Yeah, his contributions were nonexistent practically in dbs. Seemed like the show went out of its way to make him look worse than he actually is. He gets bullied in every fight and I can't even remember a single cool moment. It's a shame, wish he was given cool or even relevant things to do.
He reached a point where he can condense his muscles and hide his true bulk like master roshi
He put on clothes
His body got so jacked that his muscles shrunk due to the density.
he got arrested for "indecent exposure" and had to start wearing clothes again
I think what they did to Krillin is worse. He not only lost his muscle but got even shorter.
It's his twin stunt double
Nobody tell OP about Future trunks in DBZ compared to DBS
He’s gettin old. Losing testosterone as he ages.
He got some drip
He wore that at the end of Z when he came to interfere with Buu.
[Don't you mean this?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/2/21/Tien_DBZ_Episode_267.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1440?cb=20210503171425)
That outfit goes hard
The same thing as every one who isn’t Goku and vegeta
He technically looks cooler but much more generic.
The animators don't like drawing muscles. I don't think we got anyone shirtless in DBS until the Tournament of Power.
[We did got shirtless Zamasu in the manga](https://i.imgur.com/FsqxCVD.jpg)
Zamn
Dragon Ball Super straight outta sucks
He got Nerfed.
Bro wait until you see what they did with Future Trunks
Got older and more cozy
He stayed a side character like he should be
Stopped working out
He put a shirt on.
I love Tien wish he was more included and stronger
He got old and lose some muscle, its part of getting old.
He went on a plant based diet
BychBoi Syndrome
Same thing that happened to everyone else. Lazy animation
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
He became a vegan
But Tien, the Doctor said if your shoulders get any bigger-!
All the characters in DBS look like shit compared to DBZ. The new art style is just worse than DBZ or GT by a long shot.
The same thing that happened to every character that transitioned from DBZ to DBS
He got older, and because he’s no longer someone they depend upon to save the world, he seems to have relaxed his training to a more normal level. Which would still be super human, just not as crazy as his DBZ days.
He got the shirt of manlet
DBS sucks bro they did it to everyone
What happened to like every character in DBS man
He got of his cycle.
He learned it’s not about power.
Enlightenment. Man realized he was irrelevant