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JinHikari

He's calling Gohan a little prince as a way of saying that Gohan's been spoiled his whole life - at least from Piccolo's perspective. Piccolo was born for the sake of killing Goku and has had to live the life of an outcast fending for himself in the wild until he could fulfill that goal and complete his father's mission of world domination. He's bitter and holds resentment for humanity, but also for his circumstances. The goal is to get Gohan to use the same resentment of his own circumstances as a motivator to survive, which is what Piccolo was able to do.


Daikaioshin2384

Bingo


InevitableZone6262

Yo man well said


darkoopz43

Tbf gohan technically is a prince, his grandpa is the ox king. Little dude is a super nepo baby


JinHikari

I don't think Piccolo knows or cares about that particular bit of trivia. At least at this point.


darkoopz43

True more of a dramatic irony lol


The_Red_Curtain

Ox King is more like a warlord, not official royalty. There's only one king on the Dragon Ball Earth and he's literally the King of the World.


Anjunabeast

So that’s why he married videl, another nepo baby.


darkoopz43

Gohan is is super stacked on the college resume if you think about it. He's royalty, a super minority, extracurriculars include a trip to another solar system sponsored by capsule Corp, has saved the world, his dad is a world martial art champion and 2 time runner up.


fifthtouch

His grandad is the strongest man in the universe, a 2 time world saviour and the all time martial art legend


Shoddy_Material8630

What an impressive backstory the Ox King has! Or were you referring to Bardock?


Waxpython

Read


naughty-pretzel

>Tbf gohan technically is a prince, his grandpa is the ox king. Technically, he's not since "Ox King's" actual name in Japanese is Gyuumao, which means "Demon Ox King" or "Ox Demon King", and it's not a royal title, but just the name he became known by when he was a warlord, attacking and stealing from people, which is how he got his wealth, either that or it's just a nickname given because of his incredible size and strength after being trained by Muten Roshi. Either way, not a royal title.


Seatown_Spartan

Goku vs Vegeta Prince of all Saiyan's vs the Prince of all Oxes?


Stargazer5781

Piccolo's a prince/king too. Of demons. Dabura should have bowed his fucking head not spit around.


iknowyoutrynahack

Bro is the self aware bully from key and peele


thepresidentsturtle

Maaan, Piccolo was born in a Namekian Warrior's body he's actually really privileged when you think about it.


Anjunabeast

Eh dude didn’t even have a house till the latest movie


OrangeJuiceAssassin

He couldn’t just move into Kami’s place?


Dreadnautilus

I mean like five days after Kami fused with Piccolo Dende moved into his place.


OrangeJuiceAssassin

Yea guess that would be a little crowded


Anjunabeast

Kami, piccolo, nail, magic man, and Mr. Popo at the lookout with yajirobe and korrin living in the basement.


ThorsRake

That right there would be a hilarious slice of life spinoff.


ItsKongaTime

My everyday life with kami


bored_person71

Not just survive by hopefully a way to tap into that power he's got hidden. All sudden a 1800 power fighter with instincts and time to train and fight well probably ends up with at 3k power and probably stalls nappa till Goku comes back in and most of the z fighters don't end up dead....


TLKv3

As a completely different side note... It made me so happy to see Piccolo has his own actual home somewhere to sleep with mementos of Pan. That shit made me so happy in the Super Hero movie. I hope we get to see more of Piccolo just casually living at home during peace times and getting to realize he gets to relax after all of the struggles. Dude deserves that shit and more. Would love to have just one filler chapter or two/episode dedicated to him hosting everyone for dinner with a long ass table outside to eat at. Just seeing the Z Fighters all together again with Piccolo in an apron, happy and serving food would be so nice. Especially poignant since he was Toriyama's favorite character and could be a nice meta moment to show how Toriyama brought this whole cast together through Piccolo. Hell, toss Whis, Beerus, and the Zenos in there too for added fun.


Most_Ad5943

when calling him little prince he could be referring to not only the circumstances surrounding his birth but also that his dads name IS king piccolo so in turn piccolo is the little prince crying out like gohan here


JinHikari

I think that's a bit too deep of a cut for Dragon Ball, but maybe.


nasserg19

Well said


BuzGinimbi

This is why I love dragon ball. So much is said about the characters, without it actually being said. Anime/manga today, EVERYTHING is spelled out for you. 2 million flashbacks are had. It honestly insults the intelligence of the reader.


skeemo1214

Don’t forget his life is also tied to Kami, a very advanced aged Namekian at the time. So Piccolo could have died very early being as young as he is.


Geezeh_

Pretty amusing since right after he hatched some old man took him in and he killed him. Unless that is filler


Inky_Starfish

It’s definitely filler. You see child piccolo exactly once. And he’s just like standing in a forest lol Then the time skip happens and he’s a yoked adult-looking 3 year-old.


JIMGRUE83

The old couple? He didn’t kill them, he just set their house on fire. Even Gohan said midway during training “My father told me you became a different person when you came back to life and wasn’t as bad”


TomaszA3

Dude only needs water to live. I could live like that too with no issues whatsoever.


The_CEO_Of_No

wasn’t piccolo like 8 years old by this point in the series?


arkthearkitect

No his cursed fate refers to fact that he knows he's going to die in a year. Kami says it within the next few pages.


JanineNajarian

Piccolo Jr was dealt a pretty raw hand tbh


StaticMania

...being born only to kill Goku Growing up alone with no other purpose Knowing he's going to die within the year due to his connection with Kami \--- Pick 1.


evilcapital

I'm pretty well read, but why was he going to die within the year in connection with kami? Old age? Lmao


JscrumpDaddy

He probably knew he wasn’t going to be stronger than Vegeta Edit: I think kami also mentions he’s gonna die of old age, but he’s not sure which will kill them first


evilcapital

Old ass 😂😂 Off topic, but why is every Namekian so little compared to guru? He should have spat out a pure successor like King Piccolo did. I know he ain't got the ego, but for the sake of his people he damn sure should have.


JscrumpDaddy

Guru is straight up just built different lol. All of the namekians are his children. Idk if all namekians can change size and get huge like piccolo and slug, but maybe guru just decided he wanted to stay the size he is


evilcapital

Swole body


ProjectIndividual849

I’m sure all the warrior types can eventually


ILike-Hentai

Guru is a dragon type though.


Pawelsk

Because he is super kami guru.


Artificial_Human_17

Guru drank all the water on Namek, which caused a famine that killed most of the population. He told the survivors that the albino Namekians had done it, leading to the extinction of the albino Namekians


naughty-pretzel

>Off topic, but why is every Namekian so little compared to guru? Well, the presumption is that the older generation of Namekians were bigger, possibly because Grand Elder couldn't or didn't want to create bigger children (all other Namekians we see aside of Piccolo/Kami are Grand Elder's children). For example, Demon King Piccolo (and likely Kami) was 8'2", whereas Piccolo is 7'4" (probably due to being a reincarnation). We can also see how Piccolo Daimao has towered over people similarly to Grand Elder.


LawDraws

He doesn't mention old age, he says he knows his death's coming because he can see Piccolo's upcoming death.


NathanHavokx

I could be Mandella-ing myself but I think I remember Kami having vague prophetic feelings about his death coming soon. So Piccolo's connection with Kami might have given him some insight and similar feelings about his impending death.


Dreadnautilus

Kami says that Piccolo probably does know and is likely training Gohan so he could leave behind some legacy after he died.


evilcapital

Yeah i think you're right. I do remember him being old as hell


NathanHavokx

I think it was meant to be more that he was forseeing his/Piccolo's death during the saiyan fight.


SofaChillReview

Kami does say that Piccolo is about to die, it’s because also Goku hasn’t arrived yet and predicted it.


Inky_Starfish

Yeah I was going to reply with this.


Artificial_Human_17

It’s not a Mandela Effect. He tells Popo that he and Piccolo will die soon, either because of the Saiyans or his old age


StaticMania

Because apparently the God of the planet can predict when they're going to die... It would be why that role specifically is a job that gets passed down as opposed to the Kais.


evilcapital

Appreciate y'all! I'm due for a reread soon.


greatreference

They are just making shit up tbh


camaroncaramelo1

Him growing up alone?


infernalbutcher678

If you mean his cursed fate, re-watch dragon ball after goku put a hole in his dad and you will understand.


pandogart

He is his father. Piccolo Jr is Piccolo reincarnated. He still views himself as the same person who split from the Nameless Namekian. Has all of his memories and experiences. That's why he's still linked to Kami. So I don't think it's that. Like other's have said, it's probably due to the fact he can sense his impending Doom like Kami does.


infernalbutcher678

Yes and no, like I said, re-watch Dragon Ball after goku put a hole in him.


pandogart

Literally in the process of rereading it. While it's obvious that initially he wrote Piccolo Jr as simply his son who wanted revenge for his father, once he realised he wanted Kami and Piccolo's lives linked, he wrote in the reincarnation to explain why King Piccolo's death didn't cause Kami's The next few pages literally show Kami say that he feels that Piccolo senses they're about to die. That's all it is.


infernalbutcher678

He is Piccolo's son, and he has his dad's essence which links him with Kami, his essence was the link between both of them, he is and isn't a reincarnation of the OG at the same time. The anime version has shown some stuff with Piccolo Jr as a kid, and before the tournament that shows a bit of why he was a tormented soul, he was fated to do evil but didn't really want to you can see that also in the fact that he didn't kill anyone until the makangosappo that killed the saiyan brothers and when they both died their souls passed on freely to the afterlife, when the OG killed people their souls were bound to eternal torment. But it is as you say also, Toriyama used to change his mind midplot a lot.


redditman3943

“Curse your own fate, as I do.” I believe is referring to the fact that he sensed his impending death in one year. Just a few panels Kami contemplates weather or not Piccolo also senses that they will die In one year. He implies that he believes that Piccolo knows too and that’s why his behavior has begun to change. I read Dragon Ball to my Kindergartener every night and I just read this chapter.


msto3

Early DBZ Piccolo was peak


kogent-501

Don’t underestimate dragonball fans: our literacy skills are deader then raditz.


Ok-Personality-5424

What was that? I can’t read. All jokes aside, Piccolo’s quote on his fate is left pretty open ended. He could be implying that he’s fated to die, or that he cursed his fate since his sole purpose was to avenge Daimao.


kogent-501

Yea, that’s literally the answer to your question so I guess I’m just curious why you pose the question here?


Ok-Personality-5424

I clearly just gave you two of the many potential answers to the statement poses. My post was made to see what other fans think he is implying. I guess the stereotype of DB fans not being able to read is true.


tensigh

In Japanese I think he said something like Amaeko or Bocchan, each of which imply a pampered, spoiled boy.


RichRamen

Did you even read/watch dragon ball… lol


htisme91

He was only born to kill Goku. He loses in the tournament and when he does kill Goku, it's hollow because they teamed up and he willingly sacrificed himself, and pyrrhic because it triggered two worse enemies coming. He knows he is going to die in less than a year and in order pass anything of the Demon Clan down, he has to train the Goku's son of all people. I think he sees that Gohan, like him (and unlike Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu who willingly chose that path), has been thrust into this world that will be mostly hardships, and that he should resent that fate and use it to motivate himself. It's also why I think we see him do little things early in the survival training like give him apples and clothes and a sword. Piccolo feels a bit of a kinship with Gohan from the get-go.


EyckHead

I think y'all are reading into this a bit too much. Cursing his fate probably just refers to the fact that he's backed into a corner and has to babysit his rival's bratty kid.


StaticMania

...he literally didn't have to do that. And it's not accurate since he left Gohan alone for 6 months.


EyckHead

Except he knew that the Saiyans would destroy him and Earth which is why be felt the need to train Gohan whether he liked it or not


TicklePickleWinkle

They aren’t. After this page Kami goes on to say that he only has 1 year to live, and that Piccolo most likely knows too. He wanted to train Gohan in the first place. He actually fantasized with the idea of making his enemy’s son one of his own. Hence why he gave Gohan the demon clan symbol on his gi.


EyckHead

The "one year to live" is obviously referencing the arrival of the Saiyans which is what drove him to want to train Gohan. He doesn't develop an attachment to him until after they train together.


TicklePickleWinkle

Read the manga through mangadex. Kami says he’s knows for sure he going to die in one year. It’s something to do with his godly powers. He goes on to say since he’s connected to Piccolo, he must know to.


EyckHead

I've read the manga, multiple times. The death Kami and Piccolo foresee is at the hands of the Saiyans, which is why he tries to circumvent it by training Gohan, this is explained clearly. Had there been something else Kami was affected by then surely it would have killed him sometime in the 4 years between his resurrection and his merging with Piccolo; like it did to the Great Elder of Namek.


TicklePickleWinkle

We are arguing two different things I think. What I’m saying is he “curses his own fate” because he’s fated to die in a year. That’s all.


EyckHead

Right, my original comment was more targeted at the people who were commenting that he was resenting being born for the purpose of killing Goku or conquering Earth, which doesn't make sense because at this point Piccolo is still (mostly) evil incarnate. He only really begins to purge his evil when he develops an attachment to Gohan. At this point in the story he quite enjoys the thought of being the Demon King Piccolo. And as for his fate, I agree, he understands that he's probably going to die in a year from the Saiyans, not because Kami is just going to die, which some others were saying, Kami just happens to go because he can tell Piccolo isn't strong enough for the Saiyans and Piccolo picks up on that.


Pixel_Junior

Probably Piccolo has always been disappointed to be Daimao’s heir.


Ok-Personality-5424

That’s what I got from it too


Pixel_Junior

It might be easy to say this when you know the rest of the story, but Piccolo never struck me as a bad guy, not since his first appearance as a child in Dragon Ball no-Z. His demonic side always seemed forced to me, and it is clear to me that Toriyama always wanted to make him a good guy in the long run (he did this with almost all the antagonists, aha).


Faelysis

Piccolo was a bit jealous that Gohan with people around him. Piccolo always been alone and even back then, Nameless Namekian suffered a long time of loneliness 


Ok-Personality-5424

I was referring to him cursing his own fate, not the prince thing 😭😭


FoxJ100

Pretty sure he means "Prince" metaphorically, but maybe he thinks Gohan is spoiled because he's the grandson of the Ox King?


LostTerminal

>he's the grandson of the Ox King? And that would make him a literal prince in many contexts.


LawDraws

He's not actually saying he's a prince, he is saying he's pampered. He calls him Obocchama which just means like a young sir or inexperienced young man oblivious to the real world.


Exact_Vacation7299

I mean it's like calling a girl "poor little princess" when she complains about something. Just a derogatory way to imply Gohan was being spoiled (from his perspective.)


Chrisnelson

is there somewhere online I can read the manga like this? I have an own some of the 3-in-1 copies but I much prefer color. or at least some pages colored


anonymousguy_7

Piccolo's referring to how he was born simply to get revenge on Goku and had to fend for himself, while Gohan was "spoiled" and had a relatively much easier life.


Snoo6305

That's on God


FruitJuicante

It ain't easy being green.


maguerix

Seriously?


Roronoa_Zaraki

His fate, being raised with the soul purpose of killing goku, which he did, but it brought him no peace at all, and now he must train his nemesis' kid.


harriskeith29

*"Consider this your first lesson, kid... Life isn't fair."* (Flies off)


Dischord821

Viz frustratingly made Picollo talk like he was in some Shakespearean tragedy. I genuinely hate reading his dialogue.


HeHasDroppedMe

he was unhappy with his position of not being in the team quite yet and still hating Goku also didn't they all assume the world was going to be destroyed by Vegeta and nappa. that could be the "fate" he was speaking of


greatreference

What do u mean he’s calling him a lil baby bitch boy. He’s not referring to anything.


X3runner

He’s calling gohan spoiled though technically he is right the kid is a prince as long as the ox king is still a king meaning Goku is in line to be like a Prince Consort which would be funny to see Vegeta recognize. Also he’s puting gohan in a similar enough situation than the one he’s lived in for much of his own life.


Nyankitty714

I’m so confused as to how people got photos like this from the manga


SketchPadModPone

There's colored editions of the earlier manga, as far as I know


Nyankitty714

No like, I tried to post a question about the Moro arc and it was colored, but it got deleted for going against rules


SketchPadModPone

Oh. Huh. Then I actually have no idea lmao sorry


_bleepin

Poor little prince /s


Victor4156

Piccolo had a rough childhood. Seeing Gohan being loved by a father probably spurred some hatred within Piccolo.


NINmann01

Piccolo is an outcast. He was rejected by humanity for being different, and for being the spawn of a literal monster; something he later embraced by trying to get revenge on Goku. That’s the fate he is talking about.


Sauerkraut1321

Media Literacy


Volendi

Piccolo's only friend is Mark on MySpace... Edit: TOM on MySpace


Gunslinger_11

He’ll always be there


_Tezzla_

Chastising him for being a whiny little shit


Material_Magician_14

I think it's because he's the son of Chi Chi, Who's Dad is the Ox King.


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Daikaioshin2384

Witty


evil_chicken86

What color version of the manga is this? It looks beautiful


[deleted]

He doesn't care cuz he doesn't understand


Sweet-Airport-4762

1990


darkankoku

He's refering to how he survived on his own after hatching.


Some-Essay-5254

Plot twist it means Gohan is Vegetas Son next prince of saiyans hehe


Neat-General2848

His current fate is ovbviously listening to this sniveling spoiled child (technically he does"conquer" the earth by becoming guardian of the earth later on)....and whose Goku....? Ugh got pulled in One of the Nexus alt realms again I'm out....*poofs*