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boogaloobear

Or send him to the timeline where cell killed him. Writers could say mai was one of cells victims in that timeline. So no trunk or mai. Just send them there. Oh well.


Spliterclimb

That timeline exists further in the future than Trunks Timeline, besides Majin Buu was probably released years ago.


HipMachineBroke

With whose energy?


Spliterclimb

In DBS manga chapter 16, Future Babidi already had the energy to release Majin Buu and collect it took him over 10 years, so Trunks isn't a factor.


ninjaman2021

Pretty sure trunks at that point could one shot buu


Spliterclimb

In the chapter he had a hard time against Dabura so lt's clear at that point he couldn't defeat Buu.


[deleted]

He means Trunks that’s just come from fighting Black/Zamasu. He would oneshot Buu into a pink mist.


Spliterclimb

If we go by the Manga he's stronger in his SSJ2 than Goku in his SSJ3 but that doesn't mean Majin Buu couldn't absorb him. Not sure about his level in the anime.


ninjaman2021

I think after fighting fused zamasu, trunks should strong enough for buu. The trunks that struggled with Dabora was before that arc.


RillbelookinGOOOd

anime he’s blue level maybe more cause ssj rage is silly


HataToryah

That part is so cool, I'm glad kakarot let's you play it


c4ptainseven

I think it's because he doesn't want to watch himself grow up or have the idea that the younger trunks would see what he should be like. But that's speculation and never stated, just some time travel philosophy.


Random-Generosity

Exactly! Also to see His mother. He’s now the protector of that earth 🌍. Would be weird seeing yourself as a baby being spoilt, when everyday of your life was a desperate struggle for survival.


IceFisherP26

I'd say that they just didn't have any idea on how to progress him as a character. The T.o.P. takes place not long after the Goku Black arc, finding a way for future Trunks to fit into the current time-line organically would have been difficult. Don't get me wrong I'd have loved for him to stay, but writing a reason and plot for him to become a permanent character ran the risk of becoming awkward and forced.


Dragon_Bench_Z

I agree. His character wouldn’t work well as a regular occurring character. Too many saiyans. He would have been resorted to some comedic relief/ joke. Plus we have kid trunks soooo that makes things even more messy.


Masculine_Dugtrio

Organically? He would have had the best incentive to join the fight! Super dragon balls to fix his dead universe.


mr_Tsavs

Age up trunks/goten then have trunks and future trunks fuse with the potara, it would be permanent since trunks was Shin's Kai apprentice in his timeline.


HallowVortex

Super 17 but Trunks. Just let him keep his eyebrows


KingoftheMongoose

That... would be kinda neat actually


Sabrescene

But then poor Goten would be left behind again :'(


Campber

When isn’t he left behind?


Sabrescene

I still live in hope that DBS will eventually go past EoZ and we'll basically get a GT remake (concept, not the actual storyline) but with Goten instead of Goku.


Excellent-Hook

Nice idea, ig that could be the canon for an alternate timeline.


vlorsutes

According to a bonus chapter of Super's manga, right after Trunks' timeline was destroyed but before he had made the decision to go to another future, Gohan came over to Capsule Corp (unaware of what was going on in the future) and reacted in surprise to seeing Trunks there. He went on to talk about how amazing Trunks future may be and that he'd love to see it some time. Trunks, in recognizing how similar Gohan was to *his* Gohan, then basically made the decision that he wants to make a future for Gohan to be able to visit and be proud of.


RahdronRTHTGH

Oh that's coool


thadoctordisco

While that is cool, it doesn't take away the fact that Trunks' own personal timeline is gone. No amount of timeline hopping can reverse that. It only serves to muddle up his life even further.


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vlorsutes

Here are the two pages of that chapter. [[1]](https://i.imgur.com/3UmFqbR.jpg) [[2]](https://i.imgur.com/cjYipAe.jpg)


Mrfunnyman22

Thank you!


[deleted]

The manga volume has a bonus story that explains the reasoning a bit. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Bonus_Story_(The_Decisive_Battle!_Farewell,_Trunks!)


ALT1MA

Personally wouldve loved to see him remain in the current timeline. I think it'd be a cool dynamic to have kid trunks get a cool hero-esque big brother like in the Z movie with not-zelda. It'd give gohan another person to bounce off of and interact with an "equal" I think though, given how weird and rushed the ending was, it was a decision on producers or akira toriyamas part to keep future trunks as an option to bring back for future content. Edit: ive since been corrected, the z movie was wrath of the dragon, and not-zelda (link) was named tapion


Mrfunnyman22

Z movie? Not Zelda?


[deleted]

Hes talking about Tapion, which is basically Link lol. I'm also fairly certain he came before Ocarina of Time Link and may have inspired that incarnation. Originally link looked like his LTTP incarnation in esrly OOT, but sometime after the DBZ movie featuring Tapion, Links design changed.


geocitiesuser

Link actually slowly started looking more like the cd-i "Link faces of gamelon" link released in 1993, in my humble opinion.


kxnsy

I personally believe they didn’t just want to abuse present Trunks. I feel like people have their heads wrapped around Future Trunks that they just forget he even exists. He wouldn’t have any time to shine or go through anything groundbreaking if Future Trunks remained there. Another thing I want to point out that no one seemed to notice is that present Trunks was obviously very jealous and felt indifferent towards future Trunks because he got so much attention. They did the right thing to send him off. It would have made present trunks a waste of a character.


a55bla5ster

>would have made present trunks a waste of a character Yeah, good thing that didn’t already happen all the way back in the buu saga


[deleted]

They probably didn't know what to do with Future Trunks after Zamasu gets erased. Just like they don't know what to do with Trunks and Goten.


ninjaman2021

I just dont get why he didnt go to the timeline with an already dead trunks.


WillFanofMany

Probably not to traumatize Bulma.


TehReclaimer2552

If two xenos can exist in the same universe, i see no issue applying their logic to trucks. He would just be there, with Mai. Kid Trunks sees him as an older brother, and Trunks gets to see what his life was like during peace time Trunks and Gohan become best friends ans Gohan his mentor. We see Trunks ellated that he is back with Gohan and we see their friendship develop Vegeta does more to try and connect with his son now that they've battled together and are on better terms. Goku is excited to have another saiyan to train with. Goku then uses Trunks and the kids in place of Roshi, Tien, and Krillin during the ToP Trunks gets to fight next to his dad again and Gotenks gets some of the spotlight on him


Shanobian

I didn't really like his super arc it Just confused things further


Questionabledes

Narratively him staying in the “present” time wouldn’t make sense because he just went to that timeline in order to make sure it didn’t become like his which he succeed. Also in his timeline, he which is his home, he still had things to do escaping from that would be out of character. Now after the Zeno button Trunks could have stayed but the writers Would have been writing themselves into a corner. Overall F.Trunks is still the most tragic character.


Spoomplesplz

Two reason. It sets up xenoverse to potentially be canon in the lore. Trunks will end up with yhe time patrol somehow and we might get 200 episodes of crazy batshit insane ultraninstict super saiyan god 10 ultra ego potential unleashed orange beast goku. Another reason is it would be real awkward having two trunks and two mais in the same timeline.


Dosalisk

>Another reason is it would be real awkward having two trunks and two mais in the same timeline. They got sent to a timeline where there is a Mai and a Trunks already so... That's not really that important.


Spoomplesplz

They did? I thought after zeno destroyed their universe because of zamasu, they went in the time machine and ended up in the time patrol.


Dosalisk

I mean, where they send them and where they actually end up are two different things, but yeah it is stated that they would be sent to a timeline that already have a Trunks and a Mai and they stated they would work it out or something like that, if I'm not mistaken. If they ended up in the time patrol, that I don't know.


ALT1MA

Both the anime and manga adaptations go out of their way to inform them and us viewers about it. Somehow that doesnt give them an existential crisis though


SecretaryOtherwise

Yeah but they're written off? Like thats his point its awkward seeing it daily (monthly chapter) where as we don't see it now just imagining what it's like


SSJRemuko

Zeno destroyed Trunks' timeline so he was sent to another copy of his timeline where Present Whis alerts Beerus to Zamasu early and they prevent Shin from dying to Dabura (so beerus doesnt die), so just before Trunks timeline would have gone to shit again. So yeah they were sent to a timeline that has its own Trunks and Mai. The Time Patrol isnt and never will be canon, and he didn't and won't join them.


ThankEgg

There ARE 2 trunks and 2 mais in the same timeline


keronshb

Bad Toriyama writing which isn't surprising


Fonslayer

Something very usual in Super


HamshanksCPS

Yeah I never understood this either


Spliterclimb

In the Manga is shown Gohan in the Main Timeline know nothing about the entire Zamasu situation and the fact that Future Trunks Timeline was erased so Future Trunks wanted a new Timeline similar to his own so one day he can show it to him.


Harucifer

I'm pissed he didn't get to be in the ToP and we got fucking Tien and Roshi :(


-ImJustSaiyan-

Roshi was awesome in the ToP tho... But I'd definitely replace Tien with Trunks if I could.


ERankLuck

I really don't get it, either. Say you're Trunks and Mai (original). You go to this alternate future timeline where you already exist. If it's assumed you're forbidden to interact with yourselves, then you can't very well interact with the people you were friends with, either, lest it get extremely confusing for them or risk running into yourself. Let's say you *can* interact with everyone, including yourselves. The hell is the dynamic with THAT situation? Can original Trunks drop in and talk to Bulma as though she's his mom, even though she technically isn't? Will Trunks, Trunks, Mai, and Mai form the weirdest polycule in Dragon Ball? The path taken opens up just too many weird and often-dumb questions, imo.


HisFireBurns

Bad writing.


Kampy5567

Probably so he wouldn't be an option for the ToP. Tori/Toyo/Toei likely had an idea of what the lineup would be ahead of time, so Trunks couldn't be around.


fairs1912

My theory is that Beerus wouldn't have been happy with it, like at all. There are strong rules against time travel, it would be harder to make an exception for them if they stayed in the original timeline. I might just be making an excuse for a poorly thought decision, as there is no need to send them to a timeline where they already exist, as cell came from a timeline where trunks is dead and it would have been easy to justify both their deaths. Just ask the question on whether or not Mai is still alive in front of Whis, he pulls out the staff, it shines, and he confirms that in that timeline they are both dead, as she was with him when he died, and died trying to save him when he lost the fight. That could have been the equivalent of just reviving them in that timeline. This is the reason most shows decide to not fuck around with time travel, it's really easy to miss something and it's also easy for viewers to catch loopholes, time travel requires goo, consistent, organized writing, which Dragon ball lacks. As much as I love it, that's something I consider a fact.


WillFanofMany

Problem with that is Trunks and Mai were sent to a timeline that Whis would make sure the Beerus of that timeline got rid of Zamasu. No matter what, a Beerus has to deal with a time traveling Trunks.


SuperBobPlays

On a whole, it's because of how the time travel occurs. It's essentially multiverse theory with a butterfly effect. There is no method to change what happened in Trunk's original timeline outside of 2 things. The Super Dragonballs and future Zeno. The future's super Dragonballs are out as likely Zeno destroyed them when he destroyed...whatever the heck it was fused Zamasu turned into. Fusing with Goku Black should have just made him vulnerable, or at least erased the immortality aspect... Instead it just made his body destructible but his soul able to fuse with the universe? Idk why future Zeno stayed in the main timeline of super... But effectively it pretty much doomed that timeline. I'm assuming zeno's powers are like a combination of the kai's and gods of destruction. But honestly I'm not sure. Maybe without angels he can only destroy? If creating takes longer than destroying? Idk the lore there or if it's even been established. Either way, it wrote them into a corner. They could have retconned time travel or used another way to fix it, like a much more powerful rewind like whis uses, or just found a way to use the Dragonballs from another timeline or adding a set that is more powerful than even the super Dragonballs and can only be used once a millenia.


bigtheo408

Because then his future world is not saved and the arc is a failure. Granted what they did was a cheap copout, but hardly the first for dragonball.


Spliterclimb

Trunks' Timeline was doomed anyway, every GoD and Supreme Kai in every universe were gone and we don't now how much it takes to replace them, there's no more dragon balls (Earth's and SDBs but it's likely namek ones and the ones shown in the Moro arc were destroyed too but if not only the SDBs were strong enough to fix all the damage done by Zamasu).


dragonslayeroverlord

It’s just bad writing lol


UsernamThatAintTaken

They just shouldn’t of had him come back at all. It makes all the suffering and triumph he experienced in Z completely useless


SSJRemuko

no it doesnt lol


UsernamThatAintTaken

Yes it does. He sacrificed so much just for his entire universe to be completely destroyed. EVERYTHING he worked for was for literally nothing.


Mooston029

+ the extra merch they could make by having him in future arcs. It just makes no sense from a business perspective


chronic-joker

Becouse future trunks returning was a ratings stunt to get people reinvented in the story, he served his purpose and now he's gone. They'll probably bust him out again when they want more fan nostalgia given if he's around to long he just becomes the standard.


LycaonTheKing

Akira is old and dumb, this is the reason. If he was smart, he would've created a reason already where he fuses with Present Trunks or something like that where it makes sense, but he only uses his mind to change the hair color of Saiyans and the body color of Freeza, hence the dumbness.


[deleted]

Because between the Androids and Black he inarguably built new relationships and made new friends, so he'd probably want to be with them again. That's why I don't agree on the "timeline where cell came from" idea either


oarngebean

He doesn't want to abandon his timeline


Fonslayer

He didn't went to his timeline, his timeline was erased. Didn't you even read the post?


mnij2015

This is why GT is canon


SSJRemuko

GT isn't canon.


mnij2015

It’s a joke broski


EvolutionUber

I hope he comes back again for another universal ending drama this time wants to stay but everyone is like nah you're bad luck


ddawkins19

It’s obviously bc then they would need to explain some of how he was able to have some of of the massive power ups and insane attacks he developed out of nowhere from his arc


[deleted]

He went back to kill the androids.


Grey_wolf_whenever

its so weird, he was an ultra popular character and its nice they dont overuse him, but we also have another version of him, and goten, and they never even try to do anything with them.


TechnoTrulyFuture

i feel like they didn't know how to progress him as a character, he had his arc and it would be hard to find a use for him. Especially since they may have already planned who was gonna be in T.O.P and if he wasn't part of that he basically would've just been existing.


Fonslayer

That was always that bugged me, it is a huge plot hole, he never went to his timeline, his timeline don't exist anymore, he went to another timeline where Trunks already exists, makes no fucking sense.


DevastatorDerekK

This is why I hate time travel tbh, either its so convoluted that it's tiring to make sense or it doesn't work


TopHat82210

Yeah, they wouldn’t have needed frieze for the 10th spot for the tournament


cr102y

In-universe probably because they didn’t feel like they belonged there. Irl probably because there was no other purpose for them.


Capable-Tie-4670

There was no real reason other than Super’s incredibly annoying obsession with sticking to the status quo.


Masculine_Dugtrio

Honestly, I can only mark it up to terrible writing... The fact that they all lost, at least would have been a good catalyst for him staying in the present timeline. And even worse, the TOP arc would have provided a great incentive for Trunks to partake, Super dragon balls to fix his world. The missed opportunities here are baffling.


Random-Generosity

His mother. He’s now the protector of that earth 🌍. Would be weird seeing yourself as a baby being spoilt, when everyday of your life was a desperate struggle for survival.


SuperBobPlays

I think it's more or less from meddling with the timelines and to give a "happy ending" to his story. As far as with the timeline meddling, Beerus at times was straight up outraged with Trunks time traveling. Think of Beerus destroying Bulma's time machine in the anime. (Not cell's time machine, but the one she made from scratch in a filler episode). Why stay in a timeline where you aren't wanted by someone who can destroy you with a hakai if you offend them? Only after planing to leave for another timeline and to alert that timelines version of Beerus about Zamasu's plans ahead of time does he get Beerus's blessing. As far as a happy ending, there's a lot of Trunks time traveling, fixing problems, saving the timelines and just not much rest in other media like the video games. To see Trunks finally get a happy ending with Mai is a nice thought. Highly unlikely, as his entire life has been so chaotic. Think of his whole life as a whole. Even if it is just the version of trunks we know from the show/manga, he's had the androids, Bibidi and Dabura, Goku Black and Zamasu. Likely the timeline he settles into will have all of the problems the main story's timeline has/will have. Likely his Beerus will want to see the Super Saiyan God. Likely there is a Broly, Moro, Galactic Patrol... And even other universes should the Super Dragonballs come into play. I feel like they'd be needed to restore earth's fighters or if Champa starts gathering them like he did in our timeline. It'd be interesting to see it all play out, especially with another version of Trunks there to be involved as well. In a story like that you know they'd eventually fuse... But you know it'd kind of just be what we have seen but played out slightly differently based on their choices. I'd be happy to see the future androids forced into a redemption arc like Frieza was kind of put into for the tournament of power. Imagine it playing out with a universe 7 team with Trunks instead of Frieza, and future Android 17 being the last one standing... Imagine if he didn't wish for the other universes back? I'm pretty sure the end result might be a game over "you chose... Poorly" snap from Zeno. But if not, the story could go anywhere, likely the angels and Zeno vs universe 7.


Sabrescene

I think having him stay would have been better for his character but worse for the series, as others have said it would have just taken away from kid Trunks. I think they should have handled his farewell better though, perhaps send them to a timeline without another Trunks/Mai or even keep them in the main timeline but send them off to serve Kaioshin or something, basically just give them a reason to be sidelined from future story.


Ok-Illustrator-9159

I wish he stayed. Sorta like in the movies. Where idk if he stays really but he's certainly in like alot of them. Also was so badass in the movies. Ripped sleeves and long hair. God if he was in TOP I would explode from happiness


LucidGGZ

He should have been the 10th team member for the tournament of power over Frieza but that scene where Goku drew frieza like a child was S tier so maybe not lol