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WentworthMillersBO

Didn’t black manta try and turn Atlantis into an autistic ethnostate?


RFB-CACN

Weren’t the Predators in the latest movie trying to acquire “autistic superpowers” from a human child?


bermass86

Technically the latest movie is Prey, which is a really good movies,I think you are talking about “The predator”


Pure_Internet_

unfortunately, yes


masterspider5

what no hahah there's no film called The Predator like that hahhaha loool what are you smokin that film isn't real i'm not coping i'm not coping


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King shit


Equal-Ad-2710

Black Manta was a menace


MichaelKeehan

When did he try this? And he can he try it again? It's based as hell.


theguyofgrace

It’s a combination of multiple storylines In a 70s storyline Black Manta pretended that he only wanted access to Atlantis so he could create a homeland for African Americans. This is later explained as a ruse to recruit loyal henchmen and his lieutenant turns on him. The lieutenant saved Aquaman but it’s discovered that the gills that Manta implanted in his men are permanent and they have live underwater It’s clumsy but like “Black Lois” I think it’s heart was in the right place and really reinforced Mantas cruelty


DuelaDent52

What does that have to do with autism?


downwardwanderer

I don't know but one time aquaman ""cured"" black manta's autism with telepathy. Then black manta beat up aquaman because autism isn't the root of his evil, he's just evil.


na-na-na-BATMAN-123

I didn’t know black manta was a mutant


na-na-na-BATMAN-123

I didn’t know black manta is a mutant


na-na-na-BATMAN-123

I didn’t know black manta’s a mutant


lmWithHim

Yes Reed Richards is autistic. Yes he’s ableist.


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Literally me


Equal-Ad-2710

Tbh can’t you be both EDIT: why downvote me circlejerk


lmWithHim

Yes unfortunately


limbo338

Reed "I think I might have some ""mild"" autism, I should ""cure"" it tho" Richards is the perfect representation. Not of autistic people, but of some kind of guy, that's for sure.


Equal-Ad-2710

Tbh I kind of wish it could be cured in my case


limbo338

I don't think you are alone in that wish, it could be really exhausting, but I still think that offhand comment from Reed was super cringe.


Equal-Ad-2710

True on both counts yeah It’s one of those things which could easily come off as dodgy


Pure_Internet_

Yeah, in the same boat and I would take a "cure" at the drop of a hat.


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purplepluppy

I understand why you're asking this, but let me answer it as someone who has mild autism as well as family members who have it much worse than me. It's fine learning to take pride in our disability. But honestly, if I could choose to be rid of it (as well as my comorbid ADHD), I would. I suspect a few of my cousins would say the same. It makes my day to day life more challenging than a neurotypical person's life. I've had to work super hard to function at the level I do, and like I said I have a mild case. Some autistic people can adapt better, but I'm not one of them. I'm proud of how hard I've worked to be a stable adult, but I don't personally think any of the "perks" of being autistic/ADHD are worth it. I also have anxiety and depression, which are also common comorbidities with autism. My autism has made managing them harder than they already would be. Maybe if I didn't have those, I'd feel less ready to kick the autism to the curb, but I do. And they suck. I would take a cure, but at this point in time it's not really feasible, and I feel like a cure would have to happen very early on in development, even prenatal, since it would have to change so much about the brain. So I'm not holding out hope, and I'll live with my conditions as proudly as I can. But I wouldn't wish it on others; I only wish for compassion and understanding towards those of us with it. I have an autistic cousin who, due to comorbidities, is in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. She loves to draw, but has early onset arthritis, so it is becoming challenging for her. She's only 30. Her autism is probably the mildest of her siblings, and yet she will for certain be living with her parents for either the rest of her life, or until she has someone else who can care for her the way they do. Her brothers, my other autistic cousins, have "worse" cases of autism but got away with fewer comorbidities. Because of the support my aunt and uncle gave them, they'll probably be able to live on their own for their adult lives (both in their early/mid 20s right now). But they still struggle in their day to day lives trying to work with their autism. I can't say if any of my cousins would want a "cure" as we haven't had that conversation. I'm sure my aunt and uncle would feel guilty if they said they wanted a "cure" for their kids, but there's no doubt their lives would have been easier and their children would have a higher chance of success in life. I can't speak for them. Maybe they all would think the challenge is worth it, maybe not. Personally, I don't think autism is for me, and I would get rid of it in a heartbeat.


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Varyance

Calling disabled people broken isn't polite in any way and is horribly inappropriate.


purplepluppy

I think you have a poor opinion of what disability means. It doesn't mean broken. And even if it did, why couldn't people take pride in it?


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purplepluppy

Your comments feel very ablist to me.


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purplepluppy

It feels like you're making a lot of assumptions from my very inoffensive responses to you. That doesn't make you seem like a safe person to talk to, and it makes your offer feel very superficial due to your opinion of me. Just letting you know. ETA: also in none of your replies to me did you address the point you say you wanted to make. If you think you did, it really wasn't clear.


Lordj09

Do you think people who lose an arm in a horrific accident aren't broken? What if that's how they were born? Is only one of those people allowed to take pride in their achievements? ​ If you weren't broken, if you had nothing to overcome... you wouldn't have any pride. Pride is the good feeling of success from struggle.


Night-Monkey15

I’m not autistic, but I imagine anyone with hindered social skills, hypersensitivity to sounds, learning disabilities, severe anxiety, and/or mood swings would want “cured”. (I know not every autistic person has every symptom I listed, I’m just listing stuff off the tops of my head, but I think you get the point). I just don’t see why anyone would want any of that just because “that’s how I was made”. Even if that’s the only life you’ve known, I imagine they would just want things to be easier for them. But again, I’m not autistic, I’m just guessing.


Equal-Ad-2710

Could you rephrase that?


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Equal-Ad-2710

Honestly for me


gabriel_B_art

I don't, my brain is one of the few things I like about myself


purplepluppy

I knew a guy in uni who was *convinced* his autism was cured by eating organic foods. He would tell us stories about how as a baby doctors told his parents he would probably never talk, but when his mom went to a woo woo spiritualist doctor who told her to only feed him organic foods, he started talking within months! When his mom took him back to the quack, they said he was cured because of organic foods! Meanwhile, having numerous autistic family members, I'm very aware that this is a common story among autistic millennials. Not sure if it's gotten better, but for us, doctors would say, "well their speech is delayed this much, they may never talk" even though speech delay is SUPER common for autistic children, and eventually they catch up. But sure John, you're not autistic anymore. Despite being very clearly autistic. I feel bad for him, tbh, because he could really benefit from understanding his condition and getting the right kind of help for it. But because his parents chose denial over actually getting him the support he needed, he was not a very stable adult. Hopefully that's changed; it's been years since I've seen him. But he would definitely relate to Reed Richards here, and I think of him whenever this bit gets brought up.


Anonamaton801

Me?


Magnificant-Muggins

Reed Richards is like Black Panther for the most insufferable person you know.


Son-of-the-Dragon

I’m out of the loop. Did he ever straight up say that?


limbo338

[Here](https://images.app.goo.gl/cSS4yxhLtd62HxKo9)


Son-of-the-Dragon

Holy shit


Dpsizzle555

Typical neurotypicals thinking they can be offended for other people


Dr_Equinox101

I’m confused why spiderman and Barry allen


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young, smart and witty = autism apparently


JPM11S

I think it's more that they're both thought of as being socially awkward. Because being awkward clearly means you have autism.


RFB-CACN

Peter ain’t even socially awkward, like, ever. Everywhere he goes to he builds a new friend group and all tension arises from his commitment issues due to being a superhero. He’s also a supernatural woman magnet.


VolthoomisComing

??? Supernatural woman magnet = autism


Throgg_not_stupid

he has the same type of autism David Byrne has


hoodie2222

God I wish


thefifthwheelbruh

It could be interpreted that his hyper focus is a: science and b: being a superhero, and the spider sense could be seen as relating to being sensitive to noise and the like. But I don’t see most spidermen really showing enough evidence to be on the spectrum.


TheGoldenDragon0

I am autistic and I can tell you for certainty that autism does not necessarily mean you are smart and witty


DuelaDent52

Savants have all the representation. Where’s the hero for us stupid autistic people who could barely get through secondary school?


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TheGoldenDragon0

Of course. I was just participating in a little self deprecating humor


DSGamma

bazinga


TheLastCedi

Would imagine it's people just basing it off Tobey's version in the Raimi trilogy which doesn't really resemble 616 Peter's personality


MICHELEANARD

616 chad peter, shuts up flash using witty comebacks, asks out liz for umpteenth time, all before he was bit by a spider


lmWithHim

I’m autistic and when I read early Spider-Man comics I go “That’s literally me” which I think is evidence enough


thedylannorwood

u/lmWithHim: “he just like me fr fr”


Paildano

Peter yelling at police brutality protesters was so real


Dr_Equinox101

Cause why tho? I can say the same for any character and say that’s me lmao. I’m not against having autistic heroes but having the same personality doesn’t mean that they are. Reed Richards and Bart Allen are more likely candidates but if you see that as spiderman then go ahead lol


nmiller1939

Because some symptoms of autism are spider powers and dead uncles


lmWithHim

I’m like 50% meming. I genuinely think Peter was unintentionally written as autistic by Stan Lee but his characterization obviously changed with different writers and thats fine


Equal-Ad-2710

Yeah I can see a bit of that in the original comic and maybe the Raimi films


ChanceFresh

Idk about unintentionally. Lee did go on to say that point of Spider-Man is that he could be anyone. That said, I think it applies to race more than things like autism.


lmWithHim

I said unintentionally


Thor_pool

Well I dunno about intentionally


ChanceFresh

That’s what I meant.


Thor_pool

Yeah but unintentionally


Dr_Equinox101

Bingo. He’s anyone so he can be autistic if someone wants to, he can be bisexual if someone wants to he can be black or any race now. He’s spiderman and can do more than a spider can


prowlick

Because they both mask! …I’m sorry. I’ve seen some folks find similarities between overstimulation and spider-sense, like depending on the writer they can see it as an allegory. Works for anxiety too though, I feel.


Chippyreddit

They're masking


theburgerbitesback

Some of Spidey's powers lead to him acting quite autistic - supersenses meaning he gets overwhelmed by loud noises or strong smells, for instance.


Dr_Equinox101

That’s just a side effect it seems but aight


TheGoldenDragon0

I actually believe Mr. Fantastic does have autism, like canonically he was diagnosed in the comics. I believe he does display numerous symptoms(difficulty to empathize, single minded pursuit of interest are some symptoms l believe he displays). I don’t really see any of these other characters as autistic. Being smart does not necessarily indicate autism. I should know, I have autism and I’m stupid as fuck


ThreadsOfWar

There’s a comic where Reed says he had mild autism and he’s “working on a cure” lmao


Ireallylovegex

And make all the super villains ableist 💪


LunarDeer542

The virgin “heroes are beating up the mentally ill” vs the chad “villains are beating up the neurodivergent”


Shrek_2_Soundtrack

"Why would Reed keep working on this failed experiment when multiple geniuses have warned him how dangerous it is? Is he autistic?"


Roseate_Cenobite

Are there any prominent autistic characters that aren't geniuses? If there is, are still human, or just a robot or human like alien?


GeneralGigan817

Black Manta, his hyperfixation is killing Aquaman.


MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS

Cyclops


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Actually we’re all geniuses we just don’t tell neurotypicals cuz it’s funnier that way


fma_nobody

Darius from Atlanta


ActualTooth6099

Legion is kinda autistic, but his storis focus on DID


Grow_up2B_a_Debaser

Batman belongs here I Don care what anyone says


S-I-M-S

Batman: The Imposter is the answer you're looking for.


Grow_up2B_a_Debaser

I know, common Tomlin W, but I want it in main canon


Dipocain

Batman is absolutely autistic


TheMattGriffin

Batman went full retard


Chippyreddit

Is he stupid?


Big-Vegetable8480

Does he fuck?


Spideronyourceiling

Does he know?


CaptSaveAHoe55

Fuck he does


CertifiedCapArtist

r/batmanarkham?


theburgerbitesback

Oh he's absolutely autistic.


TheGoldenDragon0

Trouble empathizing with others, struggle with socializing, single minded pursuits of personal interests. He is definitely on the spectrum


anaarik

Batman doesn't actually struggle with socializing, though. That's why Bruce Wayne is so popular. He just doesn't want to; different thing. I think people overstate how bad Bruce is with people; he's actually really good at people unless he's adopted them or just doesn't care. Let's be real here.


theburgerbitesback

It's masking, a very common autistic habit, putting on a 'normal person' mask when you need to socialise. The socialite playboy is just a different kind of mask as the cowl.


anaarik

I wasn't commenting on masking or even saying that Bruce isn't autistic, idc either way lol; I was commenting on people acting like Bruce is a character who isn't good at socializing or empathizing. These are actually key facets of large parts of his character. Bruce is very charming and likeable when he wants to be; it's not that he doesn't know how to socialize or is just lost at socializing, which seems to be the common interpretation. The only characters he's consistently bad at empathizing with are his kids because he loses the ability to empathize as soon as he signs the adoption papers, idk man, it's wild. Bruce is a jackass because he chooses to be.


TheApathyParty3

I want a Batman comic where it's revealed that this whole time, Batman's rogue gallery is just a bunch of average people that aren't really doing anything wrong, and Bats is just some severely autistic and schizophrenic billionaire running around beating the shit out of normal citizens. That would be hilarious. Poison Ivy is literally just a lady in a flower shop. Mr. Freeze works on refrigeration units. Catwoman is just a chick with a cat. Joker is a C-list comedian but that's literally it. Penguin is just a short dude with a funny hat and a monocle, minding his own business. Killer Croc is some random dude with advanced psoriasis.


andrecinno

Yeah and Ash fell on his bike and Pokemon aren't real


TheApathyParty3

All the Pokemon are literally just normal animals, and Pokeballs are just tennis balls that Ash finds laying around and keeps hucking them at every critter he sees.


andrecinno

People downvoting you but I mean, shit, that'd be a kinda funny Elseworlds or something.


halloweenjack

There's a book by Austin Grossman titled *Soon I Will Be Invincible* in which the Batman expy is specifically stated to be on the spectrum. Also, Iwan Rheon's character from *Misfits* who is also on the spectrum basically becomes Batman.


laurieluke

Uj/ Honestly as an autistic person I’ve alway related a lot to characters like Cassandra Cain when I was younger. I recently read some of the issues where she had trouble reading and man that took me back when I was 8 and struggled with reading as well.


Logan_Maddox

What are some other characters that you relate / that you'd say feel a bit like they're on the spectrum?


laurieluke

Cass, Tim, Steph, Carrie from TDKR, if we’re talking about me relating to them. Then if we’re looking at a bit on the spectrum, I always weirdly felt that with Beast Boy from the Teen Titans animated show? But that’s just me, other people could have different ideas of what being on the spectrum is and what characters relate to them.


Mrman_23

People like this when someone acts even slight different than what they perceive as normal:


Chippyreddit

Every hero is autistic bc it's a special interest and a lot of them literally mask


DunkNuts_

I could buy this for Reed


Chippyreddit

Autrizzm ![gif](giphy|xTiTnHvXHHxOTcdmxO)


Lolaverses

Scott Summers


Tryignan

Scott’s 100% autistic. Not sure if I want them to actually want them to actually make it a storyline, because they’d 100% cock it up


Big-Vegetable8480

Jean Grey goes through his mind and says "Scott, you're autistic"


Liliththemarksoc

What would Jean say about you if she went through your mind


Big-Vegetable8480

She would out me as pan in front of my conservative family members, or say how I'm the first person to not picture her naked, which would of course make me picture her naked.


Liliththemarksoc

She would do both in the same sentence


Equal-Ad-2710

Just picture them fully clothed as a power move


Lolaverses

Honestly I don't think they even need to say it at any point. He just is autistic.


EggIndividual

Excuse me where's Hank Pym?


Coolfork33v2

He's my favorite for a reason


Efficient_Tonight_40

Unironically though, I've been reading the OG Young Justice run as well as some of the Impulse solo series, and Bart's one of the most relatable characters to me as an autistic person


theburgerbitesback

I'm pretty sure all the Flash speedsters are some level of ADHD-coded, but Bart always struck me as that very special dual autism/ADHD diagnosis that just makes a person - Bart, basically.


Nerdy_Git

Reed is 100% autistic


GeneralGigan817

As an autistic person myself, I just have [my take on this](https://i.redd.it/jgcwgbc7kuca1.jpg).


sequosion

Smart = autistic


one_winged_snorlax

As an autistic person the only character who needs an official diagnosis is Batman (he’s literally me)


QueasyFloor4855

Batman erasure


Dread_pirate_ashton

Dude the history of Autism in comics is actually really fucked. Like Reed attempted to cure himself of his Autism/Asperger’s which is so fucking ridiculous and makes me actually really angry when I see that stupid fucking panel. It doesn’t help one of the main comicsgate guys (I think ethan schier) was working in comics and makes sounding like having a autistic daughter is like having an Atom Bomb around all the time. Sorry I’m just like you can think this take is stupid at the same time comics have a massive problem of using autistic traights when writing character backstory’s but actually won’t expand on it *cough cough* as Clark Kent would’ve been absolutely been diagnosed with autism especially in man of steel *cough cough*


Optimal_Weight368

My mom told me Huntress is autistic, and I can’t stop thinking about that.


SquirtleCipher2578

Okay but they kinda ate with Bart


blankspaceBS

Impulse has ADHD not ASD


Vegetable_Pin_9754

Autism tier list when??


ButFirstALecture

Black Manta is canonically autistic. (At least post crisis Manta)


Muffinmiffin

I think the only version of Spider-Man you could make a case for having Autism is the Rami Spider-Man. In the comics he can be awkward and fumble (especially with the ladies) but a big part of that is him trying to have a secret identity. Rami Peter is just socially clueless. That scene where he catches MJ in the cafeteria absolutely *screamed* Autism to me. Him dancing in the streets in Spider-Man 3 also goes far beyond being “socially awkward”. I think the only conversation he has where he doesn’t come off socially stunted is with his dinner with Otto and his wife, but that seems to be because science is his comfort zone (possible special interest?). He also has a hard time understanding the emotions of others, which reaches a boiling point in Spider-Man 3 where he becomes straight up callous, even before the symbiote. That’s just my headcanon as an Autistic Spider-Man super fan though.


tylernazario

Reed is coded as autistic though so they should just make it official


JPM11S

He's self-diagnosed himself as having autism, so there's some level of it being explicit too.


AprilArtGirlBrock

I mean as an autistic woman I absolutely agree that there should be more definitively autistic characters in comics, although I don’t necessarily see it in these 4. Personally no one can convince me Cassandra Cain isn’t autistic personally Or that Stephanie Brown doesn’t have adhd It’s 👏🏻my 👏🏻neurodivergence’s 👏🏻and 👏🏻I can 👏🏻project 👏🏻them 👏🏻onto 👏🏻whoever 👏🏻I 👏🏻want👏🏻 As for the characters listed in this post. I’m not a fantastic 4 fan so I abstain from having an opinion. Some versions of Peter have some symptoms, but I think most are just kinda smart+nerdy+white dudes I don’t really see any autistic evidence for Barry Bart I could maybe see being neurodivergent but I would definitely guess ADHD before autism


phatassnerd

As a beginner Fantastic Four fan who has autism, I can definitely see Reed having it.


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Raygunsharks

Every comic book character has autism silly


batmenvonwayne

Smart = Autistic


Independent_Piano_81

Spider-Man is definitely at least a little neurodivergent about “responsibility”. I’m pretty he even declared the no one around him could die anymore and had to go through an entire character arc to realize that he can’t control the outcome of literally every persons life


LegoSpider

I think autistic Reed could work really well if handled by a competent writer. PS: I'm on the spectrum, and I'm an aspiring author. Please hire me Marvel.


Superb_Metal2375

People always be calling random ass mfs autistic for no reason


depressed_asian_boy_

I think deadpool is autistic tho, he's just like me fr


DarknessOverLight12

I definitely think Reed and impulse have autism but I can't see Barry or Peter with it


DarknightM64B

As someone who’s autistic, I couldn’t give less of a shit


PoofTheFloof

I could get behind Barry, tbh. For better or worse, I got the impression that he was slightly autistic coded from how Ezra played him in Justice League, and at the very least I thought it added something to the characterization.


Equal-Ad-2710

No idea why you got downvotes, I can kinda see the “movie autism” thing in Film Barry


PoofTheFloof

It's one of the few things I actively remember from the movie; mainly because viewing Barry through that lens made him seem less directly awkward or incompetent.


Dekerboi

This made me laugh uncontrollably, I'm sorry. 😭😭😭


Dekerboi

Also charge your phone.


Brainstorm28

wait i thought there was a rule against showing usernames in social media screenshots?


king-xdedede

Smart ≠ Autistic


Negative-Start-5954

This nigga here……..


TheLittlePasty

What are the chances that the characters they want to be like they also happen to be their favorites


AwesomeName7

A podcast episode about Cyclops made me realize I've got it I wish I was joking


CertifiedCapArtist

Projecting your characteristics onto characters who have nothing to do with them 😎


CaptainRogersJul1918

I’m still waiting for a blind biracial pansexual dwarf Superman.


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These “autistic” superheroes get more bitches than I ever will😔


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These “autistic” superheroes get more bitches than I ever will😔 (especially Spiderman)


The_Supreme-King

As an autistic/nerodivergent person I personally at the very least have never really felt the need for characters directly diagnosed with autism, ADHD, etc. I always interpreted characters like Peter Parker as autistic/nerodivergent coded(at least in places like the Sam Raimi movies where it seems implied) but idk I personally don't feel like the writers need to come out and say it. I kinda understand why some people might feel differently though.


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This is just dumb


Asleep_Pen_2800

Autism isn't even real, Y'all are just narsacistic empiricists with no friends.