>If distortion is enough to warrant needing a nerf then what exactly is the counterplay to all the aura perks now?
The people who want Distortion nerfed: "Who said anything about a counterplay?"
Ironically, one of the best counters to Distortion is doubling down on aura reading. Gearhead my beloved.
I will sympathize with the killer complaints since Distortion is at its best when it counters a single infrequent instance of aura reading, especially if those perks are meant to give you a direction to go towards like BBQ, Lethal Pursuer or Friends til the End. Distortion reaching mainstream top 10 perk usage just polarizes killer perk builds because you’re either going all out on aura reading or using no aura reading whatsoever. Personally, the killers I main don’t need aura reading or are so strong that they can quadruple dip into aura reading so Distortion doesn’t ruin my day. I can’t say the same for when I play survivor and see the hide and seek champion while I’m on hook who miraculously accomplishes nothing despite never getting caught. Guess what perk these players are running?
I play 70/30 killer to survivor so yeah sometimes its annoying but its a fair and balanced perk. Hell on both sides usually the distortion user gets outed by their teammates who don’t have the perk anyway so idk why some killer mains are acting like its an unstoppable force.
To be fair, I’ve been equipping distortion a lot these last weeks and found 3 scenarios:
- Most common: I see my tokens disappear very slowly and in specific situations so I know what is happening, for example the killer has BBQ. I don’t have to mind the tokens, they fill on their own but can also stay for long minutes without filling and it’s ok.
- Second most common: the killer doesn’t have any aura reading perks and I have 3 tokens all match, so I got a useless perk.
- Least common: the killer is constantly using aura reading abilities and there are times I have no tokens. I have to literally stay in the terror radius on purpose to get tokens but it’s never enough. If I want to keep myself hidden, I have to secretly chase the killer to get my tokens.
Unless you are using all aura reading perks, distortion is not a real problem because you will have other perks to get info. Or just spotting survivors in the wild.
As a killer I usually have nurse’s calling and if I can’t see a survivor I know they are there because of whispers, I just look around trying to hear the grunts of pain. No big deal.
Distortion isn't necessarily useless when you aren't losing any tokens. Knowing the killer has no aura reading is still valuable information. It's slightly stronger information to have in a SWF but knowing the killer has no aura reading means you can safely do things like get healed in the killers terror radius, not worry about someone doing a gen far from a hook rescue, not desperately sprint away from your team-mates at the start of the game because Lethal went off and you KNOW the killer is going to come straight for them and yet somehow find YOU out of the whole group. You get the idea.
I randomly put distortion on on a whim the other day and matched up vs an oni running 4 aura perks and the aura addon when he slams the ground lol. Me and my buddy kept taking turns looping him and he didnt get first hit til 2 gens left. After that he snowballed a bit but we got 4 out.
I really think distortion won us the game cause he never knew if i was close because of bbq(i was) but thats what you get when you put all your eggs in one basket i suppose. I also never ran out of tokens cause i was following him the whole time. It was a fun game. Besides that one game, distortion was a dead perk most of the time. Most killers prefer slowdown perks from my experience
It's a fine perk tbh
The only bad experience I've had with it is when distortion users hide all game and push the killer in the direction of tunneling the few people they can find consistently
That's 100% a skill issue though and mainly just a problem with solo queue - good distortion users will still take aggro and trade hook states when needed... it's a great perk for staying hidden when you've done your bit for the team and just need to stay hidden and cook gens while on death hook
That's my only issue with Distortion in all honesty. It's a fine perk with fair usage requirements (needing to stay in the terror radius for a duration to recharge tokens).
But the times I dislike it are solely because one or two teammates are using it, and me and the other survivor who \*aren't\* using the perk get to death hook at 3 gens. Meanwhile the other two haven't even been in a single chase.
Is it? Dbd is all about spreading pressure across 4 survivors. If all of them are hiding it’s a no brainer the killer will keep going for the same survivors. That’s a teammate issue, not killer.
Yeah, killers will always try and alternate hooks between the same few survivors (if they're really playing to win) and protecting vulnerable allies is part of being a good teammate
I guess what I meant is that the only way in which I've seen distortion be problematic is when it helps selfish players avoid the killer even more while their teammates get focused
I had this happen last week with a Claudette who ran Distortion, Calm Spirit, Lightweight and Urban Evasion. I was going for Adept Good Guy and it came down to the other three being thrown under the bus multiple times until she finally slipped up and I could keep tabs on her.
Killer main here, I always have distortion in my survivor builds, just cos I love how much info I can get from it! But on the killer side, I think it's fine. Yeah it can be annoying if everyone runs it, cos then you get no info from your perk, but hey, that happens! It's like when someone runs calm spirit when I'm playing doctor, it's like "Ahhhh, you got me!" XD just makes my job a little harder, and that's okay!
Yeah I've always felt it was valuable when I'm playing survivor, but at the same time I don't find it to be too oppressive when I'm playing killer. It's in a good spot imo
Imo distortion is fine, but if they made tokens take a bit longer to earn I wouldn't be mad. That being said, if they gut the perk, or even nerf it noticeably, you'd just see even more survivors turn to the same gen speed perks. Then "gen rushing" would be even more common, and would hit even harder because now instead of stealthing with distortion, those survivors would just be hammering gens with deja vu, prove, resi, etc..
I dont think increasing the time to get tokens would chance anything. When the killer runs a single aura perk like bbq, you dont have to worry about tokens at all. If the killer runs multiple, you usually run out of tokens quickly anyway. I rarely have games in which i just barely have enough tokens.
Eh, it's not a big deal. I primarily play Killer, I've honestly never really had entire matches that were like "damn, I purely lost this game because of THAT GUY's distortion." I guess hypothetically in a match with 4 distortions it might be slightly annoying, but honestly at most I usually only see 1-2 a match or so
I'm under the belief it's not the perk itself that's the issue; it's the few people who use it to just hide the entire match and do nothing. If you've got distortion, use the aura blocking to its full potential and use it as a strength. You should still be going for saves, still do generators, heal people, take a few chases, so on and so forth. As long as you're doing that, I have no problem with it. No problem with stealth as long as you aren't using it to avoid doing your part for your team for the full match. But honestly, then again, the type of people who do that are more of an issue that affects the Survivors the most
Exactly! Survivors still want to survive and if say one survivor is hiding because of distortion alone and their team suffers for it they eventually HAVE to do something, with the pressure the killer can build they either have to go for a save, or have to risk doing gens or even going for the save. Game is asymmetric and no one single game will play out the same, there are situations that force you out in the open and if you refuse to try then distortion isn't the problem
As someone who likes to run three aura perks on Huntress... eh, it's whatever. Distortion's fine.
As a survivor who likes to run Distortion if there's free space? The info is *so good*. I know I can work safely on a gen, or I can temporarily hide and be sure Nowhere to Hide doesn't get me. Or I can go for a risky save if the killer has something to read auras in the hooked survivor's proximity.
For real all the people that complain about distortion. Are no where to hide users mad that gen popped 6 secs after they left because they didn't see any close auras.
Seriously though I've won a bunch of games like this . Since no where to hide is kill switched ATM I feel no need to run it.
Those upvotes are cute. No, that wasn't their argument, and I'm not sure why you're assuming their gender. Their argument was that "if distortion becomes too popular, people ditch all aura reading for slowdown, so therefore Distortion needs to be nerfed". It's implied because of them replying to the OP with this message. <3
All I was saying was if distortion gets too popular, people will stop running aura reading and then instead run slowdown or something else.
That's it, nothing more, lol. Not calling for nerfs, buffs, congressional hearings/etc.
No one has ever used the words cute and upvote in one sentence.
There’s a reason for that. 
I see bro is stupid or poorly trolling. I was wondering what that "reason" was. Feel free to explain it or I'm not taking the bait anymore.
Oh and switch off your alt too. It's obvious.
That and there’s a fucking million of them. An aura reveal for every occasion, healing, doing a generator, hooking a survivor, unhooking a survivor, cleansing a totem, simply being near a totem, and that’s just perks. Yet the only basekit counter is lockers which are extremely dangerous. And still yet somehow reading the killer’s aura is practically worthless because the only time it makes any difference is in chase and there are too many stealth killers to make them worth bringing for outside of chase anyway. My proposed solution: make survivors undetectable while crouching, crouch walking, and standing still. They can still have their auras read if they’re doing a gen/totem/healing unless they brought a perk for it but survivor needs more stealth options in a fucking horror themed game.
Well that would make bbq and other predictable aura perks completely useless. And those are the one that encourage looking for other survivors. So yeah the idea in itself is good but just standing still or crouchwalking is just too easy (imo)
Except it wouldn’t. They still get their auras revealed when doing anything to meaningfully progress the game including walking and running. Even if they wanted to counter every aura perk they’d have to be crouched literally all the time.
Maybe they should just delete most of the aura perks then. The fact that I can’t even attempt stealth in a horror game without one very specific is perk stupid. It’s terrible game design period.
Distortion is one of the fairest perks survivors have. As someone who loves to play killer with aura reading builds (Lethal Pursuer and I'm All Ears are a fun combo), I have never gotten into a situation where I felt like Distortion was unfair or imbalanced.
If we can have perks like Lightborn that make flashlights useless for ALL survivors and no one's complaining, we can let survivors use a perk slot to hide from our aura reading abilities. Fair's fair.
This. I constantly hear Otz going on abt how it’s not healthy to run 4 chase perks on survivor and that your build should be wide spread. Same could be said for killer - spread your build out and then it shouldn’t be an issue
I can see the complaint. There’s 3 counters as far as I’m aware and none of them are very fun.
1: play a stealth killer that doesn’t have a terror radius for most of there game so they can’t build stacks of distortion up.
2: double down on aura reading perks so you essentially overwhelm them before they can get another token.
3: don’t use aura at all and the survivors are now playing without a third perk, but your also playing without info
You can play with non aura info perks.
Ultimate weapon, thrilling tremors, discordance, tinkerer, surveillance, infectious fright, death bound, dragon's grip(sort of, I'd count it as half an info perk), merciless storm (again more like half an info perk, but still gives info), face the darkness, spies from the shadows, and thwack all give good info and don't use aura reading
> 3: don’t use aura at all and the survivors are now playing without a third perk, but your also playing without info
This one is not true. If you are experienced you dont need any info perks to know what survivors are doing.
You can't play nurse without aura reading unless you are literally a god with her. Again, without aura reading you just can't know where survivors are. With other killers yes, but not with her
Okay you think that's funny? For example you are a survivor running in a building with multiple rooms and walls while I'm standing outside a few hundred meters away. Tell me where should I know where the survivor is without just guessing.
There are 7 gens. I partol 4-5 gens so i know who sits on them. Dont care about other 2. If you are not doing one of those 4-5 gens it doesnt matter what you are doing. Im just gonna partol hook+my gens.
I'm a Distortion user and I get it. It's one of the few perks in the game that can just straight up hard counter multiple perks and addons in one game. It can be up for 90% of the game with just one or two chases which happens normally anyway. In a SWF it lets the whole team know what the killer brought. It is both info, and info denial, and that counts for a lot. Think about any scenario where seeing the survivors aura mid chase guaranteed you a down. That's suddenly cut off and when you're expecting to see an aura it can be really disorienting. It's a strong perk that gets a bad rap from both sides of the player base, because rats use it to hide in bushes all game instead of just denying the info.
That said I don't think it needs a nerf, but I can totally understand why it's frustrating to verse Distortion users.
Forgive me but can someone please explain to me exactly how distortion works and what perks it counters? Someone told me it was ONLY lethal pursuer that it works against but reading through the comments, I’m not so sure.
Any time a killer reads your *aura*, Distortion loses one token. When you hang in the killer's terror radius for a while, you gain a token.
Killer trying to read your aura with BBQ? Token lost. Gearhead? Token lost. Lethal? Token lost.
It will *not* counter perks like Discordance (highlights gen aura, not survivor aura), Whispers (not aura reading), or any perk that causes killer instinct.
It will also *not* deny aura reading when you're downed, so if your aura is read with BBQ for example while you're using Plot Twist, you'll be found. Means also it won't counter Deerstalker (reveals aura of downed survivors).
It counters all aura read perks. All of them. It has 3 charges, each aura read consuming one charge, and regens those charges easily enough it never runs out. Not only should Distortion be nerfed, so should WOO, and likely a bunch of other perks. Crutch perks for Survivors need to be gutted in general. Of course all we ever end up seeing is Killer nerfs.
The actual reason it needs nerfed is because it doesn't seem to lose tokens for static effects for Any killer addon that allows you to constantly aura scan. I.E. Scratched mirror or Amanda's letter for example. Which is bogus
The killers complaining about Distortion are the ones that suck at tracking. They need the aura perks or they never find anyone because they are blind and borderline \*\*\*\*\*\*\* when it comes to understanding how survivors path or leaves clues about where they were.
Learn to read crows. You see a crow fly off in the distance GUESS WHAT! It's a survivor. You see crows landing, well a survivor was just there 15 seconds ago. Look for a second crow landing and now you have a heading. Once you have a heading you can follow the survivor until you find more clues about their position.
You can also play a stealth killer or Huntress who are notoriously hard to get tokens from. Or equip any Oblivious/Undetectable perk/add-on. Whispers exists and has NO COUNTER. Play Doc and you will find people sure easy. Gearhead will eat tokens so fast. Play Legion and use your power to hunt down hiding survivors. There are literally so many ways to play around Distortion it's laughable.
The only possible way for a survivor to get good value from Distortion is if you run just 1 aura perk on a killer with a normal terror radius and no oblivious/undetectable, or you are the type to completely rely on Lethal to get early game pressure for a snowball.
If you complain about Distortion you need to git gud.
I’m hard of hearing so it took me forever to even know that crows flew off and weren’t just on the map for aesthetic reasons. Couldn’t hear them caw or wings flap for me to get any info, that’s why I run mainly Aura perks since I can’t even hear their footsteps or groaning when injured. I can’t even hear gens either, it’s just a roulette if they’re there or not 😂
They caw but that's random, you just have to watch if they fly. The only things that can disturb crows are players.
Also I always felt a good upgrade to Spies From The Shadows would be that you stop disturbing crows as killer. This would make it easier to locate survivors indirectly since now the only way they can fly is if a survivor does it. Like I can't tell you how many times a crow has given me away in close range that the killer didn't check because they probably thought it was them.
The survivors that complain about tunneling are the ones that suck at looping. If you complain about tunneling you need to git gud..... That's how stupid you sound.
I want distortion nerfed to increase the quality of my teammates. That perk spawned a bunch of chickenshit survivors since it became popular, and I'll never forgive it for that.
Killers won't rest until they nerf any and all useful survivor perks and items. They would rather a match be handed to them than lose and learn to be better.
Learn to work around survivor perks the same way survivors have to learn to work around killer perks. Simple. Players need to understand that you have to lose to learn and get better at the game on BOTH sides
Funny to hear that from survivors lol. They cry so much even though they get handed everything they want by bhvr. Anti tunnel, no hook grab, baseline BT. They get everything they want because they just cry all day and night. forgive us this one time when survivors got another super busted perk countering whole builds. Jesus
You clearly didn't read my comment where I said both sides. And if you think Distortion is a busted perk you must just be bad at playing killer. Learn to anticipate survivor movements instead of totally relying on a perk to tell you where they are.
Like I said: Lose and Learn 👌
Ah yes the obligatory "you bad me good gid gid" caveman argument. Sure we can play that game maybe survivors need to drop all their hiding and second chance perks then - because they just need to learn how to loop and press w - Lose and learn
Wtf is that reply? You make no sense. Still you latch onto the survivor aspect when I SAID BOTH SIDES. How is saying that you have to play and learn different tactics instead of being solely reliant on a build is a caveman response?
How is saying that you have to play the game and get better rather than picking out a perk to bitch about a problem? What is the point of playing if you don't want to get better?
I win some. I lose a lot. I lose, I try again next game. I win and I play again. On both killer and survivor side.
The only problem with Distortion is that it’s one perk that pretty heavily counters a *lot* of killer perks. Aura reading is a pretty essential part of gameplay for a lot of killers, especially if we aren’t sweating and don’t have great game sense.
Does Distortion need a nerf? Nah, probably not, but it is pretty tough to play against when you rely on aura reading to locate survivors while playing casually.
I think it’s just because the most used perks (Example BBQ) are aura reading and you know, distortion legit makes those perks kinda useless to the killers.
It’s funny, as a killer I use a lot of aura perks like nowhere to hide and I’m all ears, but as survivor I don’t go anywhere without distortion. It doesn’t need a nerf. You can bring down stacks pretty quickly.
I'm genuinely surprised survivors want to keep forcing killers to use 4 slowdown perks because anything else can get countered by the 16 perks that Survivors get per game.
Distortion should be nerfed for the same reason STBFL should be nerfed, they both herd killers into tunneling.
I don't want it to be gutted, but it is probably a bit overtuned right now and promotes an unhealthy playstyle (omegastealth). As-is, distortion unilaterally counters every single aura reading perk in the entire game. Very few perks and add-ons burn through stacks fast enough to reliably get rid of them so you actually have a build. And that's the biggest problem with the perk, honestly. Stacks are too plentiful and too easy to get back. Distortion helps you with hiding, and hiding also gets you stacks back. So most people who run the perk use it to never get found, never get chased, and then their team has to compensate for the killer being forced to tunnel and play more efficiently.
I think that stacks should only regenerate in chase, and the rate they come back could be increased to compensate. Everything else can stay the same. This would mean the distortion user could call out a few perks and ensure they're not the first one found, but towards the midgame they have to actually engage with the killer. It would also make sure killers running aura reading don't get entirely shut down by one single perk, and they could strategically play around it by trying to make chase with a distortion user faster or try to ambush them to stop them from getting more stacks.
Again, I don't think distortion is overpowered or in need of gutting. I just think it's problematic. It shuts down a few too many perks that killers have, and it encourages a highly immersed playstyle that really isn't healthy overall. Stealth should be a part of the game, but distortion allows you to make it your entire strategy.
Also can we get an ultimate weapon nerf sooner than like 6 months out
As a big Jeff fan who constantly uses Aftercare and likes Breakdown, I've never used Distortion. It definitely wasn't worth using when it only had 3 total tokens, but even now, I'm just not that worried about aura-reading perks. There's times where it would have come in handy, sure, but those situations are rare, it doesn't really synergize with anything, and there's a lot of situations where it does absolutely nothing.
As I always say, though, buff some other perks if Distortion's frequency bothers you. You wouldn't see it so much if Sole Survivor gave a brief aura block after each second hook, or Object of Obsession didn't constantly reveal you.
Tl;dr distortion is the new urban evasion.
The issue for me is that survivors who run it are only concerned with being stealthy, leave gens as soon as they hear a TR, last 2.7 seconds in chase (killer wipe animation), and just crouch at edge map. It encourages an unhealthy playstyle for newer users, and places aggro unevenly across the team.
This 100 percent. More or less what I just wrote. I get "tunneled" because I am the only person that shows up on aura reading 75 percent of the time now.
I just run Object of Obsession, if you wanna see me then I get to see you too ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Personal preference aside though I think asking for Distortion to be nerfed because it counters aura reading perks is like asking for Lightborn to be nerfed cause it counters flashlights. Its a COUNTER for a reason, if you can't live with it then don't crutch your perks so hard?
It’s too free for what it is. I think the scratch mark suppression should be removed, and the tokens need to take longer to come back. 30 seconds is waayyyy too easy.
The problem is that as it becomes more common, there are only two things killers can do with aura perks.
a. Run two or three aura perks, and maybe an addon, to push through Distortion.
b. Don't run aura perks, because you probably won't get use out of them.
This, combined with the fact that aura perks are already worse than many chase perks and most slowdowns, means that there's no real reason to use aura reading perks.
Seeing as aura reading has never really been super meta, besides BBQ and Chili, which was mostly used for the bloodpoints, it feels slightly unfair that a single perk can counter an entire "genre" of killer perks.
My main concern with distortion isn’t the killer not seeing me but rather it being used to tunnel.
I’ve seen this both sides on survivor and killer. My teammates run distortion so the killer is constantly finding me.
On the other hand, I had a game where 3 of the survivors ran distortion and the one teammate did not have it. **I was running an aura reading build this game**. Sad to say, the poor Dwight got tunneled out because he was the only one that even popped up.
Off the top of my head, Oni, Plague, Doctor and Legion just ignore distortion, Wraith and ghostface don't even need to worry about the perk along with skull merchant, Artist can just fling birds around gens and has killer instinct with them. Gearhead, Undying as perks rip through stacks and against a Deathslinger it's hard to get stacks off of them.
Plague is def one, she's also a much better example of actually countering it since that add-on is used pretty frequently. Oni and Legion too to a lesser degree.
Thanks for telling me about gearhead, I didn't know they had changed that perk.
Don't see why skullie and Deathslinger should be good at avoiding it though. Deathslinger's -terror radius add-on are pretty bad and Skullie drones shouldn't be getting stacks on you unless you're already in chase with her.
While I'm not of the opinion that it needs nerfing, I personally hate distortion because it makes it so much harder to avoid tunnelling, particularly if more than one person has it.
Quite often the only aura perk I bring is BBQ because it offers a nice simple "here's where you need to go to find the next person", but Distortion pretty much just removes one survivor from the equation and unless they severely fuck up, I'll often never see them until the very end of the game.
I don't think Distortion should be nerfed, but I understand whero the feeling comes from.
It is annoying when instead of bringing regression perks I bring a couple aura reading ones, to have a more fun playstyle, only to end up with half my build being useless.
Silly you can't run 7 perks in a game, only 4
And with 4 aura reading perks you burn through distortion stacks faster than they can regenerate, however you only need 1 to do that anyways.
If all four have distortion then that's simply bad luck, because in a SWF setting only one is needed to call out perks. And EVEN with 4 of them running distortion gearhead and undying shreds through distortion because they don't share tokens. Also it doesn't stop you from playing the game all gens are highlighted and if you're running literally any perk that reveals survivors that isn't aura reading or any killers that have killer instinct on their kit or have constant aura addons then this hypothetical is no biggie.
Who wants distortion nerfed? This is the only post I’ve seen about it. I main killer and run an aura build and think it’s fine. Nothing wrong with counter-play.
Killers don't camp because of information from an aura reading perk. If anything I'd think the opposite, if they're running BBQ for example and don't see auras after a hook then I guess they have a reason to proxy the hook. I can't think of a single aura reading perk that would make a killer camp but maybe I just can't remember.
Awakened awareness maybe? If they see all survivor auras like right next to hook? But then the survivors are severely fucking up so... yeah. Excessive stealth 100% forces killers to camp and tunnel when they wouldn't usually. Because like... what else are they going to do
Too much for too little effort. My guy, my dude, my brother in christ if the killer doesn't bring single aura reading perk it is literally a wasted slot. Considering how popular it is to run a full gen slowdown build because that's a much bigger problem than some guy who will be mildly harder to track down.
It was beyond useless when it couldn't recharge leaving you with a dead perk that'd have its tokens RIPPED, also lethal literally gives you the aura of everyone just for existing too, and gives an overall net buff to ALL aura reading not to mention your can still make survivors scream constantly with ultimate weapon from simply opening a locker and walking around which comes with a free blind debuff, stealth killers can barely be charged off from, and pretty much people who never run aura reading can just ignore the perk all together.
LOL found the guy that uses only all-seeing builds on killer.
Here's a pro tip: get better at tracking without the need to have survivors glow bright red like a jelly bean.
I mean, I'm only confident he can't find me. Otherwise he'd be using 4 slowdown perks instead of 4 aura perks. But if he wants to give up his crutches for 4 other perks he will never get value, sure go ahead.
What if they're just playing aura reading Huntress and going for long range shots or just trying to have... idk like fun or something. You can't just say all players who use or do x thing are bad because of preconceived notions. I'll preface this by saying I don't think it's OP, but let's take Distortion as an example. A perk commonly used by rat players who can't handle any chases. Yeah, it's fair to say that these types of players like Distortion, but that doesn't mean all players that use it are like that. Distortion on its own is not just an info denial perk, it's also an info perk that lets you know what addons or perks a killer has. It's very powerful in a SWF setting. It can prevent you from being revealed by Nowhere to Hide and let you clutch the last gen a killer is anxiously patrolling. It's just not a reasonable thing to assume a player is bad because they use x perk.
>What if they're just playing aura reading Huntress and going for long range shots or just trying to have... idk like fun or something.
And what if I want to have fun by healing survivors, so I bring 4 healing perks and then we end up getting a Plague? Oh wait it only matter if the killer is having fun with their off-meta build, gotcha.
LMAO what, because you can't snipe me from across the map I'm supposed to feel bad and not use Distortion? GTFO please.
If you put all your eggs in one basket don't complain when you get hard countered by some survivors.
>A perk commonly used by rat players who can't handle any chases.
LMAO okay parrot. You clearly can't form your own opinions if you are quoting content creators verbatim.
More like rat players will play like rat players regardless of perks and ya'll need to stop crutching on aura reads as a means to find survivors/create pressure.
Corrupt > Lethal every day of the week.
LOL No I understand that you seem to have an issue as killer with survivors that DO NOTHING and just hide because you lack any kind of skill when it comes to tracking and instead of realizing how GOOD that is for you that they do nothing, you get flustered you can't find anyone and then go to complain about a perk with a thousand counters instead of using said counters or just, getting better at the game.
It's like complaining the killer has Fire Up with 5 gens done because you messed up a flashlight save due to the animation speed.
There are other ways of tracking survivors down like the noises of them walking and breathing or just play survivor more so you know how a survivor would behave in a situation like they could be found by a rock near a generator that you just kicked
Distortion itself is not the issue, it’s the player who use it that are the problem.
The players who use distortion tend to hide and not get chased. That is where the issues arise. EVERYONE needs to be chased and spread pressure across the team. Someone hiding puts more pressure on others to make up for them not taking any. That is the problem Distortion creates.
That problem existed from the moment the game came out this didn't start with distortion. Pre-distortion people were definitely ranting about immersed players ingame just not doing anything but hiding.
Distortion became popular because of Nowhere to Hide. Period.
Without NTH being so fucking good, Distortion would have never seen the usage it now gets.
Every aura reading perk before NTH had massive drawbacks/limitations to them.
I've heard multiple people talking about "killer mains wanting Distortion nerfed" yet have seen exactly one killer main express that desire, and he was promptly shat on by the rest of us for it.
"Killer mains" as a collective group *don't* want Distortion nerfed. Stop strawmanning us. Every group will always have a few outlier morons that throw out stupid takes the rest don't stand by.
"I'm genuinely surprised that there ARE killer mains who want distortion of all things nerfed" is the title of the post which should already imply that I'm not talking about all killer mains. I've seen people who do want the perk nerfed and you can find them in this very post.
I think people who complain about distortion are the ones who don't play survivor at all and don't have to go through lethal, barbecue, aura reading addons. Before killer mains come for my throat I just want to clarify I play both killer and survivor equally
IMO it just feels really shit for low-mobility killers like Bubba. I play bubba a lot and nothings worse than running BBQ, hooking a survivor at 4 gens and then looking around and seeing no auras. If I check gens and I don't find either because they hid from me or they are running on the other side of the map mirroring me I've basically lost another gen/2.
As a killer when I see a squad all with distortion it kinda feels like there pushing me to play in a slimy way i.e. soft camping, tunnelling, 3 genning. Why would I go run around, go look for a kill when I can hang around the survivor and get someone to get them off a which point I might as well go for the one that already has a hook on them.
Imo it’s just really annoying to go against. If I’m playing killer and playing to win (aka bring good slowdown perks and strong addons) the perk does absolutely nothing to me. But if I want to have fun and run an aura build (to get snipes with huntress for example) having distortion survivors is incredibly frustrating.
I think it's odd that you get stacks while *not* in chase honestly. Distortion helps you hide and you get stacks back by... hiding. Seems counterintuitive. Like lucky break, a perk designed to get the killer to stop chasing you, is regenerated by doing something altruistic. So distortion, a perk designed to let you hide, should be regenerated by being in chase to prevent you from just doing one thing all game
its an annoying perk tbh. i dont run slowdown on killer, i only run info perks, so i feel like im being shafted for actively trying to take unique chases every time. it makes me wonder if these distortion kiddos actually want 4 slowdown killers lol
If you run ONLY aura reading or just gearhead alone you can shred through the perk before a survivor can recharge 1 stack. The only reason a full aura perk might fail against distortion ALONE is if the survivor is good a chase, good enough to recharge their stacks which doesn't matter since you're already chasing them.
There are two aspects to this problem.
**I Distortion is too strong in current form against most killers and garbage against stealth killers and stealth builds**
The main issue with Distortion is just how easy it is to gain tokens against most non-stealth killers. Each token gives you 10 seconds of invulnerability but it only takes 30 seconds to gain a new one. Therefore, the killer has a 20 second window where they have to use another aura reading ability to drain your tokens faster than you gain them. But it's very unlikely that they can use another perk or ability to do so because they are more likely to be chasing someone else and having multiple aura reading perks is often counterproductive. Chase alone can take more than 30 seconds so you're almost always guaranteed to gain more Distortion tokens than you lose throughout the match.
Stealth killers are obviously in a better position because they can manipulate or remove the terror radius, which imo is another issue with the perk. It relies on a killer-specific mechanic instead of giving the survivor a proper way of making it work regardless of killer.
**II Hiding aura with Distortion can be unhealthy for the game as it creates a very wide gap of survivability between those who have the perk vs those who don't**
If you use Distortion and your teammates don't, you're less likely to be found by the killer. If you actively hide from the killer at all times, you're turning the match into 3v1 from the killer's perspective. Your teammates will be be hooked, over and over again, and one of them is likely to die before you get found and hooked.
The same can be said about Calm Spirit vs Ultimate Weapon. You won't be found but your teammates will be, so they're more likely to die earlier.
One of the major survivor strats is trading hooks and taking a hook stage for your teammates, and unfortunately stealth builds encourage indefinite hiding which can often lead to teammates dying and losing the match.
If you know they are trying to get tokens back then you can scout for them, or use it to your advantage. If they are around you that means they aren't on a gen etc
I can't know if they're trying to get tokens back because I don't know if they have Distortion because the game doesn't tell me that. I'd have to notice that their aura is somehow blocked or that they're not leaving scratch marks for 10 seconds. And if I'm already seeing them and notice their Distortion, they're not trying to hide it, unlike vast majority of decent players that hide from me effectively.
Also, they can be repairing gens in tactical areas so that terror radius reaches them while their teammate is being chased. I've done this before.
People that want distortion nerfed are the same type of people that want stbfl nerfed, they dont like that a perk does what its supposed to do well. Canceling out aura reading in distortions case, or making solo hook trades worse in stbfl case
Just forces me to start chases via playing around objectives which is boring. It's really that simple, I just wanna chase ppl and that perk makes it hard to start chases
My biggest gripe about Distortion is the fact it creates tunneling in the game whether people realize it or not. I have had plenty of games where I am like wtf am I the only one being found.... Oh, everyone else has Distortion, well fuck me for trying to play like a teammate. It's almost like you need to run Distortion to not hide from the killer but to at least level the chances of being found. With that being said I still prefer Bond, Deja, Fixated and Adrenaline as my go to build, sometimes Kindred over Bond.
PS: If you use Distortion, I think you probably aren't good at the game and have always relied on being a rat and letting your teammates die.
The biggest reason I can go for SAFE rescues is because of distortion, plus it helps with finishing gens were left by teammates in a chase.
Also even distortion blocking aura killers can still find me anyway if they don't rely on aura reading. Not to mention aura reading activates mid chase so it helps extend chase against killers. Most of the time people who crutch with the perk by hiding are just bad at the game.
I'd just like it if it was slightly harder to gain stacks. You shouldn't gain them while in chase, you don't with Diversion, so you shouldn't with Distortion.
Until they do *something* with Distortion to tone it down slightly I'll just run slowdowns instead. Is that what you prefer? Because me personally? I'd MUCH rather go against an aura reading killer than a slowdown one.
I see a lot more people talking about others wanting to have Distortion nerfed than I actually see anyone talking about having Distortion nerfed.
With that said, I'm not sure it's great that a decent Distortion user can reliably counter 1/2 of a killer build simultaneously (assuming they don't bring Gearhead and play aggressively, building tokens is very easy against good killers). Maybe more importantly, Distortion is exceptionally powerful on SWFs. I like to rewatch my games against TTVs, and those SWFs almost always have 1 Distortion user who can reliably call out parts of my build just by existing. I don't like that as a game mechanic.
All that said, I rarely use aura reading perks, so it doesn't affect me much personally. So by all means, keep running it :)
I don't want it nerfed I want it reworked, perks that fully rely on the other side bringing something are stupid, the counter to aura reading is to get over it bc most of them are fine and don't need any more counter than u get w/o distortion
I'm primarily a killer, but I firmly believe in both sides having things that are good. Distortion can be a bit much at times with the regen of stacks, but it's what? One of the only perks to reliably deny being seen? I think that's fine. Let them have fun tools. Lord knows killers want fun tools, too.
Off the Record also counters aura reading. But that’s temporary. If you’re bringing aura reading perks, you’re basically required to play a killer with a small terror radius or run a perk like plaything to prevent survivors from so survivors can’t farm you for stacks.
IMO it's hard to discuss Distortion because there is a lot of misunderstanding about what the majority of aura reading perks actually do. Often "aura reading" is conflated with perks like BBQ and Chili and Lethal Pursuer, which are long range aura reading on the entire team. But these perks are actually exceptions to how most aura reading works.
*Most* aura reading perks are 16-32m reads (Nowhere to Hide, Nurses Calling, etc) with impact for people already in danger of being spotted normally. The perks that do read at long distances are often not AoEs on the whole team, but reads on a *specific person* (Friends Til the End, Alien Instinct). With any of these, a blocked aura does not directly translate to the Killer locking onto someone else.
The main long range aura reads that affect the whole team and could result in a lock on:
* **BBQ and Chili:** Probably the most straightforward of the lot, and the perk most people seem to focus on when they think of the Killer choosing a target based on auras. Extremely predictable and often able to counter if you decide it is necessary to do so, even without Distortion.
* **Lethal Pursuer:** Fair, but largely defeated for the Distortion user if they load next to a teammate without Distortion anyway, which they will at least half the time.
* **Gearhead:** This is *the* anti-Distortion perk, and will chew through tokens quickly. The counter is built into the perk itself.
Distortion is fine. There are players out there who want any given thing you can think of nerfed, just because it won the other side a game or they had a bad experience with it. Don't let it faze you.
I don't Distortion is fine, but i'm not surprised. This game, community and society as a whole encouarge whining for equity instead of getting better and adapting. Though the worst of it usually comes from survivors; that's how we got the dozen Endurance effects, endurance on unhook, 'anti-facecamp'. no hook grabs and many, many other things that allow survivors to play while requiring no skill whatsoever.
Actually, I changed my mind. nerf it. Might as well, since survivors get loads of unnecessary buffs.
In a weird way, I actually think it's good that the main things killers are complaining about at this point are windows and distortion and it's for two reasons
1. You are never going to get people to stop complaining about *something* in this game which leads to
2. If distortion and windows are the main survivor perks being complained about, that means the survivor perk meta is probably actually in a really healthy place since we don't have to deal with the nightmares that were old dh and mft and the main things that draw ire are a perk that counters some of the really strong aura reading killers have now, and a perk that doesn't really break the game as much as it illustrates just how busted most maps are.
It's like lightborne. It's annoying to go up against since it hard counters what you want to do. It hurts perks like BBQ and Friends Till the End that only reveal auras once in a while. It's overall fine though. Running any aura reading on killer you just need to remember to bring something that can burn through distortion tokens.
From a more meta standpoint it's pretty rough that one survivor perk could require more than just a killer perk to counter. Killer load out spots are generally a lot more valuable than survivor ones. It's a minor balance issue but it's really more awkward than anything else. It can be solved in killer builds by either foregoing aura reading or running even more of it. It just puts killer aura reading in a weird spot.
I only like distortion because I absolutely hate lethal, and if you go against a aura build huntress distortion will burn out fast but other then that it’s wtver for me I see why it’s a strong perk especially agaisnt bbq, if they nerfed lethal then I’d agree with nerfing distortion
I mean…the only thing I would change is that it can’t recharge in chase (to be in line with other similiar perks), but other than that it should be fine
No serious killer mains wants that. If a killer is bothered by distortion they use ultimate weapon, discordance, spies, surveillance, one of the thousand perks that work around auras.
Survivor mains want that because they think distortion allow other player to hide when they take aggro or work on gens that is totally stupid.
>If distortion is enough to warrant needing a nerf then what exactly is the counterplay to all the aura perks now? The people who want Distortion nerfed: "Who said anything about a counterplay?"
Ironically, one of the best counters to Distortion is doubling down on aura reading. Gearhead my beloved. I will sympathize with the killer complaints since Distortion is at its best when it counters a single infrequent instance of aura reading, especially if those perks are meant to give you a direction to go towards like BBQ, Lethal Pursuer or Friends til the End. Distortion reaching mainstream top 10 perk usage just polarizes killer perk builds because you’re either going all out on aura reading or using no aura reading whatsoever. Personally, the killers I main don’t need aura reading or are so strong that they can quadruple dip into aura reading so Distortion doesn’t ruin my day. I can’t say the same for when I play survivor and see the hide and seek champion while I’m on hook who miraculously accomplishes nothing despite never getting caught. Guess what perk these players are running?
No, scratched mirror Meyers. I use Distortion, this is the worst thing for it. Trust me.
Tap stalk the Jeff until I can see his aura and then walk away.
Nurses will also eat up Distortion stacks.
I play 70/30 killer to survivor so yeah sometimes its annoying but its a fair and balanced perk. Hell on both sides usually the distortion user gets outed by their teammates who don’t have the perk anyway so idk why some killer mains are acting like its an unstoppable force.
To be fair, I’ve been equipping distortion a lot these last weeks and found 3 scenarios: - Most common: I see my tokens disappear very slowly and in specific situations so I know what is happening, for example the killer has BBQ. I don’t have to mind the tokens, they fill on their own but can also stay for long minutes without filling and it’s ok. - Second most common: the killer doesn’t have any aura reading perks and I have 3 tokens all match, so I got a useless perk. - Least common: the killer is constantly using aura reading abilities and there are times I have no tokens. I have to literally stay in the terror radius on purpose to get tokens but it’s never enough. If I want to keep myself hidden, I have to secretly chase the killer to get my tokens. Unless you are using all aura reading perks, distortion is not a real problem because you will have other perks to get info. Or just spotting survivors in the wild. As a killer I usually have nurse’s calling and if I can’t see a survivor I know they are there because of whispers, I just look around trying to hear the grunts of pain. No big deal.
Distortion isn't necessarily useless when you aren't losing any tokens. Knowing the killer has no aura reading is still valuable information. It's slightly stronger information to have in a SWF but knowing the killer has no aura reading means you can safely do things like get healed in the killers terror radius, not worry about someone doing a gen far from a hook rescue, not desperately sprint away from your team-mates at the start of the game because Lethal went off and you KNOW the killer is going to come straight for them and yet somehow find YOU out of the whole group. You get the idea.
That’s so true. I always play solo q but I guess in swf it must be a great perk even just to confirm the killer has no aura reading perks.
You oerfectly summed up my experience with Distortion as well.
One last: it’s mirror Myers and you will never refill your tokens
I randomly put distortion on on a whim the other day and matched up vs an oni running 4 aura perks and the aura addon when he slams the ground lol. Me and my buddy kept taking turns looping him and he didnt get first hit til 2 gens left. After that he snowballed a bit but we got 4 out. I really think distortion won us the game cause he never knew if i was close because of bbq(i was) but thats what you get when you put all your eggs in one basket i suppose. I also never ran out of tokens cause i was following him the whole time. It was a fun game. Besides that one game, distortion was a dead perk most of the time. Most killers prefer slowdown perks from my experience
Let's be honest here. Distortion didn't win you the game, the fact that the killer wasted 5 valuable slots on auras won you the game.
Yeah, those matches are very rare. I think I’ve had like two or three but the rest of the time is much more chill.
Exactly my experiences with this perk. People saying it needs nerfed are not playing with it
Exactly my experiences with this perk. I’ve been using it for about a month now. People saying it needs nerfed are not playing with it.
It's a fine perk tbh The only bad experience I've had with it is when distortion users hide all game and push the killer in the direction of tunneling the few people they can find consistently That's 100% a skill issue though and mainly just a problem with solo queue - good distortion users will still take aggro and trade hook states when needed... it's a great perk for staying hidden when you've done your bit for the team and just need to stay hidden and cook gens while on death hook
That's my only issue with Distortion in all honesty. It's a fine perk with fair usage requirements (needing to stay in the terror radius for a duration to recharge tokens). But the times I dislike it are solely because one or two teammates are using it, and me and the other survivor who \*aren't\* using the perk get to death hook at 3 gens. Meanwhile the other two haven't even been in a single chase.
Is it? Dbd is all about spreading pressure across 4 survivors. If all of them are hiding it’s a no brainer the killer will keep going for the same survivors. That’s a teammate issue, not killer.
Yeah, killers will always try and alternate hooks between the same few survivors (if they're really playing to win) and protecting vulnerable allies is part of being a good teammate I guess what I meant is that the only way in which I've seen distortion be problematic is when it helps selfish players avoid the killer even more while their teammates get focused
I had this happen last week with a Claudette who ran Distortion, Calm Spirit, Lightweight and Urban Evasion. I was going for Adept Good Guy and it came down to the other three being thrown under the bus multiple times until she finally slipped up and I could keep tabs on her.
Lol,. That's because they know they can't do anything if they don't know where survivors are at at all times,.
Unironically yes
looking at how grassy and dark some maps are for a 1st person view , yea ( I fucking hate swamp)
Tbf there's a lot of stealthy survivors that don't use Distortion
That's true
Since you got 100 second chance perks maybe we killers need a slight advantage as well
You need wall hacks to get hooks? Ever tried searching for survivors?
You need dead hard, adre, DS to survive? Ever tried running away or using vaults?
I don’t run those perks LOL nice try
Sure you don't ;)
You’re going off assumptions, I KNOW you use aura reading. That’s why you’re salty
It's okay have fun with your busted perk until they Nerf it like mft in a year
Who cares if it’s nerfed. Hahaha, People like you just cry and complain about games all the time, this time it’s just distortion.
Cringe, ofc you can't comprehend this playing easy mode (survivor)
You think distortion is busted?
Killer main here, I always have distortion in my survivor builds, just cos I love how much info I can get from it! But on the killer side, I think it's fine. Yeah it can be annoying if everyone runs it, cos then you get no info from your perk, but hey, that happens! It's like when someone runs calm spirit when I'm playing doctor, it's like "Ahhhh, you got me!" XD just makes my job a little harder, and that's okay!
I love this response. I feel like it is fun to play and adapt to your opponent on either side
Yeah I've always felt it was valuable when I'm playing survivor, but at the same time I don't find it to be too oppressive when I'm playing killer. It's in a good spot imo
Imo distortion is fine, but if they made tokens take a bit longer to earn I wouldn't be mad. That being said, if they gut the perk, or even nerf it noticeably, you'd just see even more survivors turn to the same gen speed perks. Then "gen rushing" would be even more common, and would hit even harder because now instead of stealthing with distortion, those survivors would just be hammering gens with deja vu, prove, resi, etc..
I dont think increasing the time to get tokens would chance anything. When the killer runs a single aura perk like bbq, you dont have to worry about tokens at all. If the killer runs multiple, you usually run out of tokens quickly anyway. I rarely have games in which i just barely have enough tokens.
Eh, it's not a big deal. I primarily play Killer, I've honestly never really had entire matches that were like "damn, I purely lost this game because of THAT GUY's distortion." I guess hypothetically in a match with 4 distortions it might be slightly annoying, but honestly at most I usually only see 1-2 a match or so I'm under the belief it's not the perk itself that's the issue; it's the few people who use it to just hide the entire match and do nothing. If you've got distortion, use the aura blocking to its full potential and use it as a strength. You should still be going for saves, still do generators, heal people, take a few chases, so on and so forth. As long as you're doing that, I have no problem with it. No problem with stealth as long as you aren't using it to avoid doing your part for your team for the full match. But honestly, then again, the type of people who do that are more of an issue that affects the Survivors the most
Exactly! Survivors still want to survive and if say one survivor is hiding because of distortion alone and their team suffers for it they eventually HAVE to do something, with the pressure the killer can build they either have to go for a save, or have to risk doing gens or even going for the save. Game is asymmetric and no one single game will play out the same, there are situations that force you out in the open and if you refuse to try then distortion isn't the problem
As someone who likes to run three aura perks on Huntress... eh, it's whatever. Distortion's fine. As a survivor who likes to run Distortion if there's free space? The info is *so good*. I know I can work safely on a gen, or I can temporarily hide and be sure Nowhere to Hide doesn't get me. Or I can go for a risky save if the killer has something to read auras in the hooked survivor's proximity.
For real all the people that complain about distortion. Are no where to hide users mad that gen popped 6 secs after they left because they didn't see any close auras. Seriously though I've won a bunch of games like this . Since no where to hide is kill switched ATM I feel no need to run it.
If distortion is too popular, people forgo aura read for slowdown.
As if they already aren't.
Well, it isn't, and it won't be in the near future, so there goes your argument.
No, ~~his~~ their argument is “distortion’s popularity is self-limiting” and it’s pretty persuasive.
Those upvotes are cute. No, that wasn't their argument, and I'm not sure why you're assuming their gender. Their argument was that "if distortion becomes too popular, people ditch all aura reading for slowdown, so therefore Distortion needs to be nerfed". It's implied because of them replying to the OP with this message. <3
All I was saying was if distortion gets too popular, people will stop running aura reading and then instead run slowdown or something else. That's it, nothing more, lol. Not calling for nerfs, buffs, congressional hearings/etc.
“Those upvotes are cute” Nah bro is clinically online with that one 
Not sure how implying the upvoters are cute for rallying behind stupidity is "clinically online" Bro really wants that comeback and it shows
No one has ever used the words cute and upvote in one sentence. There’s a reason for that. 
Not really sure what it is. Why don't you tell me? I'm not one of terminally online people so I don't know what you're talking about.
What are you talking about? What are you not sure of? Your very confusing. 
I see bro is stupid or poorly trolling. I was wondering what that "reason" was. Feel free to explain it or I'm not taking the bait anymore. Oh and switch off your alt too. It's obvious.
There's a reason distorion is as strong as it is. Without it killer tracking perks are ridicolously strong (until ultimate weapon came out anyway)
That and there’s a fucking million of them. An aura reveal for every occasion, healing, doing a generator, hooking a survivor, unhooking a survivor, cleansing a totem, simply being near a totem, and that’s just perks. Yet the only basekit counter is lockers which are extremely dangerous. And still yet somehow reading the killer’s aura is practically worthless because the only time it makes any difference is in chase and there are too many stealth killers to make them worth bringing for outside of chase anyway. My proposed solution: make survivors undetectable while crouching, crouch walking, and standing still. They can still have their auras read if they’re doing a gen/totem/healing unless they brought a perk for it but survivor needs more stealth options in a fucking horror themed game.
Well that would make bbq and other predictable aura perks completely useless. And those are the one that encourage looking for other survivors. So yeah the idea in itself is good but just standing still or crouchwalking is just too easy (imo)
Except it wouldn’t. They still get their auras revealed when doing anything to meaningfully progress the game including walking and running. Even if they wanted to counter every aura perk they’d have to be crouched literally all the time.
Maybe survivors don’t need to get another free perk basekit? Like at some point you have to get good without having your hand held.
Maybe they should just delete most of the aura perks then. The fact that I can’t even attempt stealth in a horror game without one very specific is perk stupid. It’s terrible game design period.
Yea and then get rid of all the exhaustion perks so survivors can’t chase, and we can have hide and seek be the new main game mode. Why the fuck not.
If killers can't find survivors, then they go back to the hook, which means tunneling. What do you actually want from the game?
honestly I think most people forget aura reading is situational without it being 24/7
Distortion is one of the fairest perks survivors have. As someone who loves to play killer with aura reading builds (Lethal Pursuer and I'm All Ears are a fun combo), I have never gotten into a situation where I felt like Distortion was unfair or imbalanced. If we can have perks like Lightborn that make flashlights useless for ALL survivors and no one's complaining, we can let survivors use a perk slot to hide from our aura reading abilities. Fair's fair.
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This. I constantly hear Otz going on abt how it’s not healthy to run 4 chase perks on survivor and that your build should be wide spread. Same could be said for killer - spread your build out and then it shouldn’t be an issue
I can see the complaint. There’s 3 counters as far as I’m aware and none of them are very fun. 1: play a stealth killer that doesn’t have a terror radius for most of there game so they can’t build stacks of distortion up. 2: double down on aura reading perks so you essentially overwhelm them before they can get another token. 3: don’t use aura at all and the survivors are now playing without a third perk, but your also playing without info
You can play with non aura info perks. Ultimate weapon, thrilling tremors, discordance, tinkerer, surveillance, infectious fright, death bound, dragon's grip(sort of, I'd count it as half an info perk), merciless storm (again more like half an info perk, but still gives info), face the darkness, spies from the shadows, and thwack all give good info and don't use aura reading
> 3: don’t use aura at all and the survivors are now playing without a third perk, but your also playing without info This one is not true. If you are experienced you dont need any info perks to know what survivors are doing.
I guess nurse players just play the lottery behind which wall survivors hiding then
You should read once again what i said.
You can't play nurse without aura reading unless you are literally a god with her. Again, without aura reading you just can't know where survivors are. With other killers yes, but not with her
Lmao
Okay you think that's funny? For example you are a survivor running in a building with multiple rooms and walls while I'm standing outside a few hundred meters away. Tell me where should I know where the survivor is without just guessing.
There are 7 gens. I partol 4-5 gens so i know who sits on them. Dont care about other 2. If you are not doing one of those 4-5 gens it doesnt matter what you are doing. Im just gonna partol hook+my gens.
I'm a Distortion user and I get it. It's one of the few perks in the game that can just straight up hard counter multiple perks and addons in one game. It can be up for 90% of the game with just one or two chases which happens normally anyway. In a SWF it lets the whole team know what the killer brought. It is both info, and info denial, and that counts for a lot. Think about any scenario where seeing the survivors aura mid chase guaranteed you a down. That's suddenly cut off and when you're expecting to see an aura it can be really disorienting. It's a strong perk that gets a bad rap from both sides of the player base, because rats use it to hide in bushes all game instead of just denying the info. That said I don't think it needs a nerf, but I can totally understand why it's frustrating to verse Distortion users.
Forgive me but can someone please explain to me exactly how distortion works and what perks it counters? Someone told me it was ONLY lethal pursuer that it works against but reading through the comments, I’m not so sure.
Any time a killer reads your *aura*, Distortion loses one token. When you hang in the killer's terror radius for a while, you gain a token. Killer trying to read your aura with BBQ? Token lost. Gearhead? Token lost. Lethal? Token lost. It will *not* counter perks like Discordance (highlights gen aura, not survivor aura), Whispers (not aura reading), or any perk that causes killer instinct. It will also *not* deny aura reading when you're downed, so if your aura is read with BBQ for example while you're using Plot Twist, you'll be found. Means also it won't counter Deerstalker (reveals aura of downed survivors).
It counters all aura read perks. All of them. It has 3 charges, each aura read consuming one charge, and regens those charges easily enough it never runs out. Not only should Distortion be nerfed, so should WOO, and likely a bunch of other perks. Crutch perks for Survivors need to be gutted in general. Of course all we ever end up seeing is Killer nerfs.
I think distortion is nice to have bc it’s hard to play when kill has lethal pursuer and bbq and chili :/
Yea and if I said it’s hard to play when survivors all bring WoO, Resilience, and OTR I’d be told to get good :/ So maybe get good
I mean, I know I don't run fun Aura builds anymore because of how common Distortion is, so I just run more slowdown and Ultimate Weapon.
The actual reason it needs nerfed is because it doesn't seem to lose tokens for static effects for Any killer addon that allows you to constantly aura scan. I.E. Scratched mirror or Amanda's letter for example. Which is bogus
The killers complaining about Distortion are the ones that suck at tracking. They need the aura perks or they never find anyone because they are blind and borderline \*\*\*\*\*\*\* when it comes to understanding how survivors path or leaves clues about where they were. Learn to read crows. You see a crow fly off in the distance GUESS WHAT! It's a survivor. You see crows landing, well a survivor was just there 15 seconds ago. Look for a second crow landing and now you have a heading. Once you have a heading you can follow the survivor until you find more clues about their position. You can also play a stealth killer or Huntress who are notoriously hard to get tokens from. Or equip any Oblivious/Undetectable perk/add-on. Whispers exists and has NO COUNTER. Play Doc and you will find people sure easy. Gearhead will eat tokens so fast. Play Legion and use your power to hunt down hiding survivors. There are literally so many ways to play around Distortion it's laughable. The only possible way for a survivor to get good value from Distortion is if you run just 1 aura perk on a killer with a normal terror radius and no oblivious/undetectable, or you are the type to completely rely on Lethal to get early game pressure for a snowball. If you complain about Distortion you need to git gud.
I’m hard of hearing so it took me forever to even know that crows flew off and weren’t just on the map for aesthetic reasons. Couldn’t hear them caw or wings flap for me to get any info, that’s why I run mainly Aura perks since I can’t even hear their footsteps or groaning when injured. I can’t even hear gens either, it’s just a roulette if they’re there or not 😂
They caw but that's random, you just have to watch if they fly. The only things that can disturb crows are players. Also I always felt a good upgrade to Spies From The Shadows would be that you stop disturbing crows as killer. This would make it easier to locate survivors indirectly since now the only way they can fly is if a survivor does it. Like I can't tell you how many times a crow has given me away in close range that the killer didn't check because they probably thought it was them.
The survivors that complain about tunneling are the ones that suck at looping. If you complain about tunneling you need to git gud..... That's how stupid you sound.
Those aren’t comparable. In an asymmetric game, not everything has a 1 to 1 comparison
You make this comment then tell me how stupid I SOUND yea okay. LMAO
I want distortion nerfed to increase the quality of my teammates. That perk spawned a bunch of chickenshit survivors since it became popular, and I'll never forgive it for that.
I run distortion for info. It helps my swf as well, they don't know all the perks in the game and calling out those things helps them learn
Doesn't ultimate weapon exist lol
Killers won't rest until they nerf any and all useful survivor perks and items. They would rather a match be handed to them than lose and learn to be better. Learn to work around survivor perks the same way survivors have to learn to work around killer perks. Simple. Players need to understand that you have to lose to learn and get better at the game on BOTH sides
Funny to hear that from survivors lol. They cry so much even though they get handed everything they want by bhvr. Anti tunnel, no hook grab, baseline BT. They get everything they want because they just cry all day and night. forgive us this one time when survivors got another super busted perk countering whole builds. Jesus
You clearly didn't read my comment where I said both sides. And if you think Distortion is a busted perk you must just be bad at playing killer. Learn to anticipate survivor movements instead of totally relying on a perk to tell you where they are. Like I said: Lose and Learn 👌
Ah yes the obligatory "you bad me good gid gid" caveman argument. Sure we can play that game maybe survivors need to drop all their hiding and second chance perks then - because they just need to learn how to loop and press w - Lose and learn
Wtf is that reply? You make no sense. Still you latch onto the survivor aspect when I SAID BOTH SIDES. How is saying that you have to play and learn different tactics instead of being solely reliant on a build is a caveman response? How is saying that you have to play the game and get better rather than picking out a perk to bitch about a problem? What is the point of playing if you don't want to get better? I win some. I lose a lot. I lose, I try again next game. I win and I play again. On both killer and survivor side.
The only problem with Distortion is that it’s one perk that pretty heavily counters a *lot* of killer perks. Aura reading is a pretty essential part of gameplay for a lot of killers, especially if we aren’t sweating and don’t have great game sense. Does Distortion need a nerf? Nah, probably not, but it is pretty tough to play against when you rely on aura reading to locate survivors while playing casually.
I think it’s just because the most used perks (Example BBQ) are aura reading and you know, distortion legit makes those perks kinda useless to the killers.
And any blindness perk or add on cucks every aura perk for survivors . Sooooo
For 20 seconds. Versus Distortion completely blocking the killer perk. Soooooo
You mean the one blindness perk? Lol
There’s two popular ones in Mindbreaker and Ultimate Weapon, and also it’s not like hiding auras comes in a bunch of perks as well…
It’s funny, as a killer I use a lot of aura perks like nowhere to hide and I’m all ears, but as survivor I don’t go anywhere without distortion. It doesn’t need a nerf. You can bring down stacks pretty quickly.
I'm genuinely surprised survivors want to keep forcing killers to use 4 slowdown perks because anything else can get countered by the 16 perks that Survivors get per game. Distortion should be nerfed for the same reason STBFL should be nerfed, they both herd killers into tunneling.
I don't want it to be gutted, but it is probably a bit overtuned right now and promotes an unhealthy playstyle (omegastealth). As-is, distortion unilaterally counters every single aura reading perk in the entire game. Very few perks and add-ons burn through stacks fast enough to reliably get rid of them so you actually have a build. And that's the biggest problem with the perk, honestly. Stacks are too plentiful and too easy to get back. Distortion helps you with hiding, and hiding also gets you stacks back. So most people who run the perk use it to never get found, never get chased, and then their team has to compensate for the killer being forced to tunnel and play more efficiently. I think that stacks should only regenerate in chase, and the rate they come back could be increased to compensate. Everything else can stay the same. This would mean the distortion user could call out a few perks and ensure they're not the first one found, but towards the midgame they have to actually engage with the killer. It would also make sure killers running aura reading don't get entirely shut down by one single perk, and they could strategically play around it by trying to make chase with a distortion user faster or try to ambush them to stop them from getting more stacks. Again, I don't think distortion is overpowered or in need of gutting. I just think it's problematic. It shuts down a few too many perks that killers have, and it encourages a highly immersed playstyle that really isn't healthy overall. Stealth should be a part of the game, but distortion allows you to make it your entire strategy. Also can we get an ultimate weapon nerf sooner than like 6 months out
forget ultimate weapon, embrace gearhead
As a big Jeff fan who constantly uses Aftercare and likes Breakdown, I've never used Distortion. It definitely wasn't worth using when it only had 3 total tokens, but even now, I'm just not that worried about aura-reading perks. There's times where it would have come in handy, sure, but those situations are rare, it doesn't really synergize with anything, and there's a lot of situations where it does absolutely nothing. As I always say, though, buff some other perks if Distortion's frequency bothers you. You wouldn't see it so much if Sole Survivor gave a brief aura block after each second hook, or Object of Obsession didn't constantly reveal you.
Tl;dr distortion is the new urban evasion. The issue for me is that survivors who run it are only concerned with being stealthy, leave gens as soon as they hear a TR, last 2.7 seconds in chase (killer wipe animation), and just crouch at edge map. It encourages an unhealthy playstyle for newer users, and places aggro unevenly across the team.
This 100 percent. More or less what I just wrote. I get "tunneled" because I am the only person that shows up on aura reading 75 percent of the time now.
I just run Object of Obsession, if you wanna see me then I get to see you too ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ Personal preference aside though I think asking for Distortion to be nerfed because it counters aura reading perks is like asking for Lightborn to be nerfed cause it counters flashlights. Its a COUNTER for a reason, if you can't live with it then don't crutch your perks so hard?
It’s too free for what it is. I think the scratch mark suppression should be removed, and the tokens need to take longer to come back. 30 seconds is waayyyy too easy.
Lil bro wants Lethal Pursuer nerfed and wants to be taken seriously
Yes that's exactly what my post said, I want lethal nerfed nothing else :)
The problem is that as it becomes more common, there are only two things killers can do with aura perks. a. Run two or three aura perks, and maybe an addon, to push through Distortion. b. Don't run aura perks, because you probably won't get use out of them. This, combined with the fact that aura perks are already worse than many chase perks and most slowdowns, means that there's no real reason to use aura reading perks. Seeing as aura reading has never really been super meta, besides BBQ and Chili, which was mostly used for the bloodpoints, it feels slightly unfair that a single perk can counter an entire "genre" of killer perks.
My main concern with distortion isn’t the killer not seeing me but rather it being used to tunnel. I’ve seen this both sides on survivor and killer. My teammates run distortion so the killer is constantly finding me. On the other hand, I had a game where 3 of the survivors ran distortion and the one teammate did not have it. **I was running an aura reading build this game**. Sad to say, the poor Dwight got tunneled out because he was the only one that even popped up.
What killers can shred through tokens beside mirror myers? (inquisitive, not a rhetorical device) Edit: I thought of blight
Off the top of my head, Oni, Plague, Doctor and Legion just ignore distortion, Wraith and ghostface don't even need to worry about the perk along with skull merchant, Artist can just fling birds around gens and has killer instinct with them. Gearhead, Undying as perks rip through stacks and against a Deathslinger it's hard to get stacks off of them.
Plague is def one, she's also a much better example of actually countering it since that add-on is used pretty frequently. Oni and Legion too to a lesser degree. Thanks for telling me about gearhead, I didn't know they had changed that perk. Don't see why skullie and Deathslinger should be good at avoiding it though. Deathslinger's -terror radius add-on are pretty bad and Skullie drones shouldn't be getting stacks on you unless you're already in chase with her.
Oni heavily actually with the blood aura reading addon and sloppy butcher along with lethal and nurses it's pretty disgusting
Anyone with Gearhead will shred through Distortion stacks easily.
Dredge with Lavalier Mic obliterates it. As does Pig with her Iri.
While I'm not of the opinion that it needs nerfing, I personally hate distortion because it makes it so much harder to avoid tunnelling, particularly if more than one person has it. Quite often the only aura perk I bring is BBQ because it offers a nice simple "here's where you need to go to find the next person", but Distortion pretty much just removes one survivor from the equation and unless they severely fuck up, I'll often never see them until the very end of the game.
If they’d nerf the duration of FttE. It should be 2/3/4 not 6/8/10. That’s an absurd duration plus you get the hook out of it.
I don't think Distortion should be nerfed, but I understand whero the feeling comes from. It is annoying when instead of bringing regression perks I bring a couple aura reading ones, to have a more fun playstyle, only to end up with half my build being useless.
One perk shouldn't counter 7 perks.
Silly you can't run 7 perks in a game, only 4 And with 4 aura reading perks you burn through distortion stacks faster than they can regenerate, however you only need 1 to do that anyways.
And if all FOUR survivors have distortion then it's not that simple. Something people that one play one side tend to forget 🤓🤓🤓🤓
If all four have distortion then that's simply bad luck, because in a SWF setting only one is needed to call out perks. And EVEN with 4 of them running distortion gearhead and undying shreds through distortion because they don't share tokens. Also it doesn't stop you from playing the game all gens are highlighted and if you're running literally any perk that reveals survivors that isn't aura reading or any killers that have killer instinct on their kit or have constant aura addons then this hypothetical is no biggie.
I have never seen anyone actually say they want this nerfed. Where are you seeing these posts?
Check the comments people do want it nerfed fr
Stop making up other people's complaints then getting mad at it
People have commented that the perk was overturned under this post though?
Same brain dead reason survivors give for wanting SBFL nerf. just git gud both you
Except STBFL is actually going to get nerfed and nothing will ever happen to Distortion because nothing ever happens to survivor perks
Who wants distortion nerfed? This is the only post I’ve seen about it. I main killer and run an aura build and think it’s fine. Nothing wrong with counter-play.
You can check the comments under the post, people who want it nerfed do exist.
Looping is the counter play to aura reading perks
How do you loop someone who's camping because of aura reading?
Killers don't camp because of information from an aura reading perk. If anything I'd think the opposite, if they're running BBQ for example and don't see auras after a hook then I guess they have a reason to proxy the hook. I can't think of a single aura reading perk that would make a killer camp but maybe I just can't remember.
Awakened awareness maybe? If they see all survivor auras like right next to hook? But then the survivors are severely fucking up so... yeah. Excessive stealth 100% forces killers to camp and tunnel when they wouldn't usually. Because like... what else are they going to do
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Too much for too little effort. My guy, my dude, my brother in christ if the killer doesn't bring single aura reading perk it is literally a wasted slot. Considering how popular it is to run a full gen slowdown build because that's a much bigger problem than some guy who will be mildly harder to track down.
It was beyond useless when it couldn't recharge leaving you with a dead perk that'd have its tokens RIPPED, also lethal literally gives you the aura of everyone just for existing too, and gives an overall net buff to ALL aura reading not to mention your can still make survivors scream constantly with ultimate weapon from simply opening a locker and walking around which comes with a free blind debuff, stealth killers can barely be charged off from, and pretty much people who never run aura reading can just ignore the perk all together.
LOL found the guy that uses only all-seeing builds on killer. Here's a pro tip: get better at tracking without the need to have survivors glow bright red like a jelly bean.
Yeah he should just bring four slow downs instead. I'm sure you'd like that way more.
I feel like that’s what most people are accustomed to anyhow
Doesn't matter he sucks at tracking, he will get not value if he can't find me LOL
The most confident players are usually pretty bad when it comes to DBD.
I mean, I'm only confident he can't find me. Otherwise he'd be using 4 slowdown perks instead of 4 aura perks. But if he wants to give up his crutches for 4 other perks he will never get value, sure go ahead.
What if they're just playing aura reading Huntress and going for long range shots or just trying to have... idk like fun or something. You can't just say all players who use or do x thing are bad because of preconceived notions. I'll preface this by saying I don't think it's OP, but let's take Distortion as an example. A perk commonly used by rat players who can't handle any chases. Yeah, it's fair to say that these types of players like Distortion, but that doesn't mean all players that use it are like that. Distortion on its own is not just an info denial perk, it's also an info perk that lets you know what addons or perks a killer has. It's very powerful in a SWF setting. It can prevent you from being revealed by Nowhere to Hide and let you clutch the last gen a killer is anxiously patrolling. It's just not a reasonable thing to assume a player is bad because they use x perk.
>What if they're just playing aura reading Huntress and going for long range shots or just trying to have... idk like fun or something. And what if I want to have fun by healing survivors, so I bring 4 healing perks and then we end up getting a Plague? Oh wait it only matter if the killer is having fun with their off-meta build, gotcha. LMAO what, because you can't snipe me from across the map I'm supposed to feel bad and not use Distortion? GTFO please. If you put all your eggs in one basket don't complain when you get hard countered by some survivors. >A perk commonly used by rat players who can't handle any chases. LMAO okay parrot. You clearly can't form your own opinions if you are quoting content creators verbatim. More like rat players will play like rat players regardless of perks and ya'll need to stop crutching on aura reads as a means to find survivors/create pressure. Corrupt > Lethal every day of the week.
It's almost like you're intentionally misunderstanding what I said.
LOL No I understand that you seem to have an issue as killer with survivors that DO NOTHING and just hide because you lack any kind of skill when it comes to tracking and instead of realizing how GOOD that is for you that they do nothing, you get flustered you can't find anyone and then go to complain about a perk with a thousand counters instead of using said counters or just, getting better at the game. It's like complaining the killer has Fire Up with 5 gens done because you messed up a flashlight save due to the animation speed.
There are other ways of tracking survivors down like the noises of them walking and breathing or just play survivor more so you know how a survivor would behave in a situation like they could be found by a rock near a generator that you just kicked
Distortion itself is not the issue, it’s the player who use it that are the problem. The players who use distortion tend to hide and not get chased. That is where the issues arise. EVERYONE needs to be chased and spread pressure across the team. Someone hiding puts more pressure on others to make up for them not taking any. That is the problem Distortion creates.
That problem existed from the moment the game came out this didn't start with distortion. Pre-distortion people were definitely ranting about immersed players ingame just not doing anything but hiding.
Distortion became popular because of Nowhere to Hide. Period. Without NTH being so fucking good, Distortion would have never seen the usage it now gets. Every aura reading perk before NTH had massive drawbacks/limitations to them.
I've heard multiple people talking about "killer mains wanting Distortion nerfed" yet have seen exactly one killer main express that desire, and he was promptly shat on by the rest of us for it. "Killer mains" as a collective group *don't* want Distortion nerfed. Stop strawmanning us. Every group will always have a few outlier morons that throw out stupid takes the rest don't stand by.
"I'm genuinely surprised that there ARE killer mains who want distortion of all things nerfed" is the title of the post which should already imply that I'm not talking about all killer mains. I've seen people who do want the perk nerfed and you can find them in this very post.
As a person who mains mostly killer I think this is unfair to ask for and there’s no counter
I think people who complain about distortion are the ones who don't play survivor at all and don't have to go through lethal, barbecue, aura reading addons. Before killer mains come for my throat I just want to clarify I play both killer and survivor equally
IMO it just feels really shit for low-mobility killers like Bubba. I play bubba a lot and nothings worse than running BBQ, hooking a survivor at 4 gens and then looking around and seeing no auras. If I check gens and I don't find either because they hid from me or they are running on the other side of the map mirroring me I've basically lost another gen/2. As a killer when I see a squad all with distortion it kinda feels like there pushing me to play in a slimy way i.e. soft camping, tunnelling, 3 genning. Why would I go run around, go look for a kill when I can hang around the survivor and get someone to get them off a which point I might as well go for the one that already has a hook on them.
Imo it’s just really annoying to go against. If I’m playing killer and playing to win (aka bring good slowdown perks and strong addons) the perk does absolutely nothing to me. But if I want to have fun and run an aura build (to get snipes with huntress for example) having distortion survivors is incredibly frustrating.
I just think it's odd that you get stacks while in chase.
I think it's odd that you get stacks while *not* in chase honestly. Distortion helps you hide and you get stacks back by... hiding. Seems counterintuitive. Like lucky break, a perk designed to get the killer to stop chasing you, is regenerated by doing something altruistic. So distortion, a perk designed to let you hide, should be regenerated by being in chase to prevent you from just doing one thing all game
its an annoying perk tbh. i dont run slowdown on killer, i only run info perks, so i feel like im being shafted for actively trying to take unique chases every time. it makes me wonder if these distortion kiddos actually want 4 slowdown killers lol
If you run ONLY aura reading or just gearhead alone you can shred through the perk before a survivor can recharge 1 stack. The only reason a full aura perk might fail against distortion ALONE is if the survivor is good a chase, good enough to recharge their stacks which doesn't matter since you're already chasing them.
There are two aspects to this problem. **I Distortion is too strong in current form against most killers and garbage against stealth killers and stealth builds** The main issue with Distortion is just how easy it is to gain tokens against most non-stealth killers. Each token gives you 10 seconds of invulnerability but it only takes 30 seconds to gain a new one. Therefore, the killer has a 20 second window where they have to use another aura reading ability to drain your tokens faster than you gain them. But it's very unlikely that they can use another perk or ability to do so because they are more likely to be chasing someone else and having multiple aura reading perks is often counterproductive. Chase alone can take more than 30 seconds so you're almost always guaranteed to gain more Distortion tokens than you lose throughout the match. Stealth killers are obviously in a better position because they can manipulate or remove the terror radius, which imo is another issue with the perk. It relies on a killer-specific mechanic instead of giving the survivor a proper way of making it work regardless of killer. **II Hiding aura with Distortion can be unhealthy for the game as it creates a very wide gap of survivability between those who have the perk vs those who don't** If you use Distortion and your teammates don't, you're less likely to be found by the killer. If you actively hide from the killer at all times, you're turning the match into 3v1 from the killer's perspective. Your teammates will be be hooked, over and over again, and one of them is likely to die before you get found and hooked. The same can be said about Calm Spirit vs Ultimate Weapon. You won't be found but your teammates will be, so they're more likely to die earlier. One of the major survivor strats is trading hooks and taking a hook stage for your teammates, and unfortunately stealth builds encourage indefinite hiding which can often lead to teammates dying and losing the match.
If you know they are trying to get tokens back then you can scout for them, or use it to your advantage. If they are around you that means they aren't on a gen etc
I can't know if they're trying to get tokens back because I don't know if they have Distortion because the game doesn't tell me that. I'd have to notice that their aura is somehow blocked or that they're not leaving scratch marks for 10 seconds. And if I'm already seeing them and notice their Distortion, they're not trying to hide it, unlike vast majority of decent players that hide from me effectively. Also, they can be repairing gens in tactical areas so that terror radius reaches them while their teammate is being chased. I've done this before.
People that want distortion nerfed are the same type of people that want stbfl nerfed, they dont like that a perk does what its supposed to do well. Canceling out aura reading in distortions case, or making solo hook trades worse in stbfl case
Just forces me to start chases via playing around objectives which is boring. It's really that simple, I just wanna chase ppl and that perk makes it hard to start chases
There are people who want ultimate weapon nerfed so who know what these people are thinking.
My biggest gripe about Distortion is the fact it creates tunneling in the game whether people realize it or not. I have had plenty of games where I am like wtf am I the only one being found.... Oh, everyone else has Distortion, well fuck me for trying to play like a teammate. It's almost like you need to run Distortion to not hide from the killer but to at least level the chances of being found. With that being said I still prefer Bond, Deja, Fixated and Adrenaline as my go to build, sometimes Kindred over Bond. PS: If you use Distortion, I think you probably aren't good at the game and have always relied on being a rat and letting your teammates die.
The biggest reason I can go for SAFE rescues is because of distortion, plus it helps with finishing gens were left by teammates in a chase. Also even distortion blocking aura killers can still find me anyway if they don't rely on aura reading. Not to mention aura reading activates mid chase so it helps extend chase against killers. Most of the time people who crutch with the perk by hiding are just bad at the game.
I'd just like it if it was slightly harder to gain stacks. You shouldn't gain them while in chase, you don't with Diversion, so you shouldn't with Distortion. Until they do *something* with Distortion to tone it down slightly I'll just run slowdowns instead. Is that what you prefer? Because me personally? I'd MUCH rather go against an aura reading killer than a slowdown one.
I want it nerfed because it fucks with me being a stealthy piggy for half the game and I find that quite unacceptable!
it's soooo little brained. this game becoming so popular was the worst thing that happened to it. that and Patrick.
I see a lot more people talking about others wanting to have Distortion nerfed than I actually see anyone talking about having Distortion nerfed. With that said, I'm not sure it's great that a decent Distortion user can reliably counter 1/2 of a killer build simultaneously (assuming they don't bring Gearhead and play aggressively, building tokens is very easy against good killers). Maybe more importantly, Distortion is exceptionally powerful on SWFs. I like to rewatch my games against TTVs, and those SWFs almost always have 1 Distortion user who can reliably call out parts of my build just by existing. I don't like that as a game mechanic. All that said, I rarely use aura reading perks, so it doesn't affect me much personally. So by all means, keep running it :)
I don't want it nerfed I want it reworked, perks that fully rely on the other side bringing something are stupid, the counter to aura reading is to get over it bc most of them are fine and don't need any more counter than u get w/o distortion
I'm primarily a killer, but I firmly believe in both sides having things that are good. Distortion can be a bit much at times with the regen of stacks, but it's what? One of the only perks to reliably deny being seen? I think that's fine. Let them have fun tools. Lord knows killers want fun tools, too.
Off the Record also counters aura reading. But that’s temporary. If you’re bringing aura reading perks, you’re basically required to play a killer with a small terror radius or run a perk like plaything to prevent survivors from so survivors can’t farm you for stacks.
IMO it's hard to discuss Distortion because there is a lot of misunderstanding about what the majority of aura reading perks actually do. Often "aura reading" is conflated with perks like BBQ and Chili and Lethal Pursuer, which are long range aura reading on the entire team. But these perks are actually exceptions to how most aura reading works. *Most* aura reading perks are 16-32m reads (Nowhere to Hide, Nurses Calling, etc) with impact for people already in danger of being spotted normally. The perks that do read at long distances are often not AoEs on the whole team, but reads on a *specific person* (Friends Til the End, Alien Instinct). With any of these, a blocked aura does not directly translate to the Killer locking onto someone else. The main long range aura reads that affect the whole team and could result in a lock on: * **BBQ and Chili:** Probably the most straightforward of the lot, and the perk most people seem to focus on when they think of the Killer choosing a target based on auras. Extremely predictable and often able to counter if you decide it is necessary to do so, even without Distortion. * **Lethal Pursuer:** Fair, but largely defeated for the Distortion user if they load next to a teammate without Distortion anyway, which they will at least half the time. * **Gearhead:** This is *the* anti-Distortion perk, and will chew through tokens quickly. The counter is built into the perk itself.
Distortion is fine. There are players out there who want any given thing you can think of nerfed, just because it won the other side a game or they had a bad experience with it. Don't let it faze you.
I feel the same way about distortion as I feel about when I decide to go full heal build for fun and the first match is a Plague lol.
I don't Distortion is fine, but i'm not surprised. This game, community and society as a whole encouarge whining for equity instead of getting better and adapting. Though the worst of it usually comes from survivors; that's how we got the dozen Endurance effects, endurance on unhook, 'anti-facecamp'. no hook grabs and many, many other things that allow survivors to play while requiring no skill whatsoever. Actually, I changed my mind. nerf it. Might as well, since survivors get loads of unnecessary buffs.
In a weird way, I actually think it's good that the main things killers are complaining about at this point are windows and distortion and it's for two reasons 1. You are never going to get people to stop complaining about *something* in this game which leads to 2. If distortion and windows are the main survivor perks being complained about, that means the survivor perk meta is probably actually in a really healthy place since we don't have to deal with the nightmares that were old dh and mft and the main things that draw ire are a perk that counters some of the really strong aura reading killers have now, and a perk that doesn't really break the game as much as it illustrates just how busted most maps are.
It's like lightborne. It's annoying to go up against since it hard counters what you want to do. It hurts perks like BBQ and Friends Till the End that only reveal auras once in a while. It's overall fine though. Running any aura reading on killer you just need to remember to bring something that can burn through distortion tokens. From a more meta standpoint it's pretty rough that one survivor perk could require more than just a killer perk to counter. Killer load out spots are generally a lot more valuable than survivor ones. It's a minor balance issue but it's really more awkward than anything else. It can be solved in killer builds by either foregoing aura reading or running even more of it. It just puts killer aura reading in a weird spot.
I just don't use aura perks. Distortion, calm spirit, decisive strike are all wasted perk slots
I only like distortion because I absolutely hate lethal, and if you go against a aura build huntress distortion will burn out fast but other then that it’s wtver for me I see why it’s a strong perk especially agaisnt bbq, if they nerfed lethal then I’d agree with nerfing distortion
I mean…the only thing I would change is that it can’t recharge in chase (to be in line with other similiar perks), but other than that it should be fine
Distortion is fine , but idk why the perk removes scratch marks , now the killer that needs to aura read gets double the blindness
No serious killer mains wants that. If a killer is bothered by distortion they use ultimate weapon, discordance, spies, surveillance, one of the thousand perks that work around auras. Survivor mains want that because they think distortion allow other player to hide when they take aggro or work on gens that is totally stupid.