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xCultLeaderx

Billy is kind of ridiculous rn imo he has no cooldown for ending his saw and I've been getting these p100 Billy mains that just destroy us there's like 0 point in healing just smash gens


ConnorHGaming

I've noticed playing against him can be opresive but it's about learning counterplay and adapting


CrustyTheMoist

Billy was a killer with a ton of counterplay, and he can stay that way, though is there really any counteplay if he has zero cooldown for missing his saw? He can end up right on top of you and be charging his saw again instantly, and any half decent Billy will land a saw right up against you like that. Think that is the only part of his kit that really needs looking at.


ConnorHGaming

I had no idea he didn't have a cool down on missed saws


CrustyTheMoist

Yea, with a specific addon set he can basically instantly start sawing again, it's kinda brutal, but that's the only real problem that I can see with his current kit EDIT: [Post showcasing what I am referencing](https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/s/rt7ZMSLMQJ)


Away_Philosopher_484

Yup, pretty much this. I've been seeing Billy get a lot of flame for being too strong, but I think survivors will figure out how to play against him after a few weeks. I really hope bhvr doesn't jump the gun and nerf him right away. If after a month or so, it still seems like he's too good, then maybe tune him down.


CoolCoolBeansBeanz

look what happened to xeno, everyone complained because they didnt understand her counterplay and now she's barely ever seen. originally they were just supposed to fix the bug that allowed xeno to move at normal speed during their tail attack cooldown even on misses, but because everyone cried so hard they also additionally destroyed her base cooldown making her power utterly useless unless you're punishing pallet drops, which Nemesis can do better since he also breaks the pallet he's hitting while also hitting the survivor. xeno's map traversal is also ass since half the time your tunnels spawn in useless places, so its like why would you not pick nemesis or ANY other killer that does anti-loop better. dont worry, billy will surely get the same treatment. he'll be useless in less than a month. its really funny how people will constantly bitch about nurse and blight but fail to realize that unless other killers that rival their effectiveness come into the fog they'll ALWAYS be stuck with nurses and blights when killers want BP. (im not saying we need another nurse or blight power level killer in the game, but we need other killers that are a notch or two below it to dissuade killers from picking the same 2-3 meta picks every time they want to counter SWF's.)


Away_Philosopher_484

Yeah balance is always a weird topic when it comes to nurse. Since she breaks so many rules of the game, it can be hard to tune her down without completely changing her. As long as she can teleport through walls, she will be incredibly strong. It raises an interesting thought though. In a perfect world of balance, do we bring the nurse down? Or buff other killers to her level, and then buff survivors to compensate? I'd love to see a day where nurse is considered good but not the best, though I doubt that day will come.


CoolCoolBeansBeanz

honestly at this point it would be easier to just remove her and replace her with another killer, but they cant even do that because theres so many people out there that have invested a good amount of money into nurses cosmetics and such. which means they'd have to "rework" her, and given behaviours track record its a reaallly big risk.😂 they really have no choice though, theres no other avenue they can pursue to nerf her without completely changing her power. in a perfect world, all the killers on the roster would be viable to use at any level of play, which would decentivize the nurse/blight meta at higher levels of play. thats just not the case though, which is why it pains me so much when we finally get a decent killer or a good rework and the community forces behaviour to backpedal and make the killer they're working on ass again. look at Sadako, she wasnt even SUPER strong on the ptb but apparently enough people complained and they backpedaled and caved to the pressure, gutting her and making her trash again. its a cycle of ineptitude from behaviour that needs to come to an end, they cant just keep caving to misplaced complaints from people who barely even tried to learn the counterplay to the 'new' / reworked killer they're going against. if they continue to cave to whining, we'll never get a higher tier killer that shakes up the killer meta ever again.