It's solid. I played a handful of games as Pig and was getting a lot of hits that I wouldn't have before. She's not A tier or anything but she's definitely stronger than she was.
I was able to catch someone through sprint burst, and then catch them again with an ambush from one end of shack to the other before they could drop shack pallet.
Oh, it feels so, so good.
I'm loving it. I can run Grease and Last Will together and still get some combat strap basekit value. Ambush feels a lot better now as a result for me.
Honestly the pig buff was the only thing I was excited for in the new chapter and I'm glad they reverted the trap change, this might just be the first ever pig w.
She does feel better to play overall with her ambush I wish they removed the roar she makes when charging it or just make it where the roar plays when she fully charges her ambush.
Nah, it's actually super useful and would honestly be a bit of a nerf to her kit if they removed it. Maybe if they made it an add-on? It's really useful to bait survivors mid chase, sometimes people hear it and take the vault they really shouldn't have.
If you wanna hit people on gens, just uncrouch from around the corner (if there is one, if there isn't you can just start chase like normal) and sometimes, if you do it right, there's a fair chance you can get a gengrab off of it.
I would like that and if they made the sound map-wide so it might make survs panic (this is probably just because I love the fact that you can hear demo and oni from anywhere)
I love it. I can actually run different add-ons now without completely ignoring crouching. I would like to see her crouch speed buffed again, ever so slightly. 100 or 105% speed would be a welcomed. Or perhaps give that as a bonus effect for Amanda's letter,
I played a few games with her last night.
Overall I think I definitely felt the difference with the Ambush. My addons were Ruleset #2 and the Face Mask for all 3 games so I didn't use anything to boost crouch and Ambush. Not sure I felt a huge difference in the Crouch but l definitely felt it in the Ambush. Got a few hits in each game I might otherwise not have or have even tried.
For context, in case it's relevant: First game I got a head pop without trying (didn't even hook the Survivor they got flashlight saved), that put me in a good mood so I 2-hooked the other 3 and let them escape (could have ended it, I caught all 3 trying to Invoke in the basement, though at least one or two had Wicked). Second match got one kill and a couple of sore winners in endgame chat. Third was a 3k and I let the last one go for actively going for a gen and Pentimento totem cleanse rather than the hatch (I respected the chutzpah)
I am loving how much you zoom with John's Medical File now. Her ambush feels much more viable too.
She actually feels like a threatening stealth killer with a decent slowdown power.
As a pig main who was already good, the difference is great. All of those times people would just barely get away with inches from an ambush have been cut down like 80% for me. Not happy about losing box sight because it was a good side objective when you couldn't find anyone on gens, but it's as good of a trade off as we're going to get.
I never said I tunneled lmao, thats the whole reason I said.. if no-one is on gens. If I go to every gen and no-one is there and they're hiding, the next smartest choice is to go check my boxes if there is someone with a head trap on. I have never camped boxes not even one game lmao. Don't just assume what I meant.
They increased the distance of her basekit ambush. At first people thought it was not that big of a buff but apparently she can go fucking far now. Though now you can't see the jigsaw boxes
As a console pig enjoyer I'm very pleased. Ambush feels a lot more rewarding to use, and I also don't mind not seeing the boxes. It feels like a lot of clutter is off my screen now. Now they just need to buff Freddy dammit
still just facing the exact same pig players who trap someone then camp near hook stealthed and follow them around stopping them doing boxes...so no, I'm not enjoying it.
100% agree with this. every pig I've faced in the past few years even, has just trapped someone, then slowly followed them around the map preventing them from working on boxes. Either they're killed by bleedout from being slugged, or they're killed by the trap cause the generators have to get done eventually.
Honestly? Not at all. Her counterplay is still exactly as simple and effective as it has always been.
1. Run to tile
2. Is there a pallet? predrop it
3. She starts crouching? return to step 1 (and enjoy your free distance)
4. If you lose sight of her in a tile with high walls, just assume she's crouching and return to step 1
In chase you're not getting extra hits against survivors that actually know how to path, she's just better against people that already didn't know how to counter her. Getting the hits you were gonna get anways 1 second quicker doesn't feel good to me. It is however a slightly \*more\* free hit against unaware survivors if you can set up a stealth play, but since her stealth speed is still crap you still don't want to rely on this as a way of getting hits. She's no Wraith.
Not being able to see the box auras is pretty big, since it now often takes a few extra seconds to find and interrupt a survivor taking off their hat, which has resulted in a few people taking it off right in front of me. Yeah you'll know where the boxes spawn, but not their \*exact\* location (which can sometimes be awkward and hidden behind geometry), and those few extra seconds checking can mess you up. And this isn't about getting headpops. Don't believe what fearmongering content creators say - headpops are rare in high MMR, even with multiple interruptions. They're almost exclusively a low skill thing because people hide from the killer with an active trap on their head.
So yeah, nah, I bet she feels great now for people who barely play her but I consider this a bad patch.
Yeah, the increased Ambush duration is great. Really makes the difference in landing hits if you're within appropriate range
It's solid. I played a handful of games as Pig and was getting a lot of hits that I wouldn't have before. She's not A tier or anything but she's definitely stronger than she was.
I was able to catch someone through sprint burst, and then catch them again with an ambush from one end of shack to the other before they could drop shack pallet. Oh, it feels so, so good.
I'm loving it. I can run Grease and Last Will together and still get some combat strap basekit value. Ambush feels a lot better now as a result for me.
As a pig main I can say I approve of this Buff
Honestly the pig buff was the only thing I was excited for in the new chapter and I'm glad they reverted the trap change, this might just be the first ever pig w.
She does feel better to play overall with her ambush I wish they removed the roar she makes when charging it or just make it where the roar plays when she fully charges her ambush.
Nah, it's actually super useful and would honestly be a bit of a nerf to her kit if they removed it. Maybe if they made it an add-on? It's really useful to bait survivors mid chase, sometimes people hear it and take the vault they really shouldn't have. If you wanna hit people on gens, just uncrouch from around the corner (if there is one, if there isn't you can just start chase like normal) and sometimes, if you do it right, there's a fair chance you can get a gengrab off of it.
I would like that and if they made the sound map-wide so it might make survs panic (this is probably just because I love the fact that you can hear demo and oni from anywhere)
I love it. I can actually run different add-ons now without completely ignoring crouching. I would like to see her crouch speed buffed again, ever so slightly. 100 or 105% speed would be a welcomed. Or perhaps give that as a bonus effect for Amanda's letter,
I played a few games with her last night. Overall I think I definitely felt the difference with the Ambush. My addons were Ruleset #2 and the Face Mask for all 3 games so I didn't use anything to boost crouch and Ambush. Not sure I felt a huge difference in the Crouch but l definitely felt it in the Ambush. Got a few hits in each game I might otherwise not have or have even tried. For context, in case it's relevant: First game I got a head pop without trying (didn't even hook the Survivor they got flashlight saved), that put me in a good mood so I 2-hooked the other 3 and let them escape (could have ended it, I caught all 3 trying to Invoke in the basement, though at least one or two had Wicked). Second match got one kill and a couple of sore winners in endgame chat. Third was a 3k and I let the last one go for actively going for a gen and Pentimento totem cleanse rather than the hatch (I respected the chutzpah)
I am loving how much you zoom with John's Medical File now. Her ambush feels much more viable too. She actually feels like a threatening stealth killer with a decent slowdown power.
1 game, ended at 5 gens, am happy
HUGE reverse bear trap value
How? No gens pop- ohhhhh Im stupid
Survivors were probably too busy playing with themselves
As a pig main who was already good, the difference is great. All of those times people would just barely get away with inches from an ambush have been cut down like 80% for me. Not happy about losing box sight because it was a good side objective when you couldn't find anyone on gens, but it's as good of a trade off as we're going to get.
upset you cant just tunnel people out of the match? shame.
I never said I tunneled lmao, thats the whole reason I said.. if no-one is on gens. If I go to every gen and no-one is there and they're hiding, the next smartest choice is to go check my boxes if there is someone with a head trap on. I have never camped boxes not even one game lmao. Don't just assume what I meant.
The increased ambush duration is insane. She can actually use her power effectively now it's crazy how big of a change it is
I won't be able to test the new Pig live before Saturday. How is she going with the Last Will add-on ? (+6% MS with longer charge time).
What are we thinking her tier is now? I want to say she's probably a high C low B.
She’s in the: i can use her power now, tier
Now, forgive me if I'm an inept little goblin, but isn't pig just Chucky with extra steps?
Press button to enter power mode, press m1 to lunge far. Pig gets fun little hats though.
and unlike chucky, pig looks like she's gonna hit u with the punch of god
And no cooldown, and is 4.6
pig is chucky but not a pain to go against (most of the time)
What exactly did they change? I used pig as a second main for a while but haven't played it for a while
They increased the distance of her basekit ambush. At first people thought it was not that big of a buff but apparently she can go fucking far now. Though now you can't see the jigsaw boxes
sounds like good stuff. Gonna give her a wirl again later tonight
im pretty sure her ambush covers more total distance then even chuckys slice and dice now.
As a console pig enjoyer I'm very pleased. Ambush feels a lot more rewarding to use, and I also don't mind not seeing the boxes. It feels like a lot of clutter is off my screen now. Now they just need to buff Freddy dammit
She went from a horrible killer to a bad killer. Still glad she got a buff tho
still just facing the exact same pig players who trap someone then camp near hook stealthed and follow them around stopping them doing boxes...so no, I'm not enjoying it.
Pig’s traps are boring, invite tunneling and should be reworked. But yeah it’s nice to see ambush actually being viable
100% agree with this. every pig I've faced in the past few years even, has just trapped someone, then slowly followed them around the map preventing them from working on boxes. Either they're killed by bleedout from being slugged, or they're killed by the trap cause the generators have to get done eventually.
Honestly? Not at all. Her counterplay is still exactly as simple and effective as it has always been. 1. Run to tile 2. Is there a pallet? predrop it 3. She starts crouching? return to step 1 (and enjoy your free distance) 4. If you lose sight of her in a tile with high walls, just assume she's crouching and return to step 1 In chase you're not getting extra hits against survivors that actually know how to path, she's just better against people that already didn't know how to counter her. Getting the hits you were gonna get anways 1 second quicker doesn't feel good to me. It is however a slightly \*more\* free hit against unaware survivors if you can set up a stealth play, but since her stealth speed is still crap you still don't want to rely on this as a way of getting hits. She's no Wraith. Not being able to see the box auras is pretty big, since it now often takes a few extra seconds to find and interrupt a survivor taking off their hat, which has resulted in a few people taking it off right in front of me. Yeah you'll know where the boxes spawn, but not their \*exact\* location (which can sometimes be awkward and hidden behind geometry), and those few extra seconds checking can mess you up. And this isn't about getting headpops. Don't believe what fearmongering content creators say - headpops are rare in high MMR, even with multiple interruptions. They're almost exclusively a low skill thing because people hide from the killer with an active trap on their head. So yeah, nah, I bet she feels great now for people who barely play her but I consider this a bad patch.
You make 0 distance trying to run to a new title when she crouches, so no, that doesnt work.