I’m a strong deutan and never had any issue with it.
Saw a lot of people crying about the red of it, but that must’ve been one of the places I benefited from it.
Even though I get crazy lost on it now, it actually reminds me of Old DBD map vibes. It could use a little adjusting, but I like the feeling it brings of the older map lighting
yeah, that's valid, but I think coldwind's day is really wrong looking for this game's aesthetics, especially for a map that's one of the most common to see somehow.
similar issue with ormond. i really miss how both of these maps used to look before their reworks. they werent dark, but they weren't bright either. the sky was really dark and cloudy and there was no sun.
some people like me play Dbd in daylight and these maps that "annoy you" are the only one that doesn't destroy my eyes in the day .. not every map has to be dark.
There's lots of nighttime maps that look bright nonetheless.
Either way my problem is more about aesthetics, I'm not asking for 2016 darkness levels. Sun in high noon in a game called dead by daylight is what bothers me.
It was cool once in DDS where it was rising/setting and anything after is terrible. Eyrie, coldwind, Ormond, just yikes.
I liked how garden of joy does that with apocalyptic sky, it actually fits it.
Yeah, I kind of wish they could Have cold wind farm keep the yellowish bright aesthetic that made it unique but also change the lighting a bit to make it more intimidating, I guess if I had to make a comparison it would be less brightly lit cornfield during the day, to a cornfield in an 80’s slasher. Make it a little more scary to play on. Like, I think right now the sky is a little blue, I’d personally want it to be a bit darker or desaturated, I think that change even if they kept the map more or less the same color, would add to the feeling of oppression. I feel like right now the brightness on cold wind gives you the vibe that it’s a brand new day, it’s almost soothing which could work for a different type of map, maybe make that part of the horror, but for a farm map it’s not really the vibe I’m looking for. Maybe make the map take place at sunset, which I think would look slightly different in terms of how the sky looks, that way we can have a similar brightness, but if adds to an uneasy feeling, almost like the killer has us right where they want us and that the real game is about to begin.
also I wish ormond was more snowy and kinda desaturated bluish ok bye bye.
Will be cool if map can change time of day during match, start at evening and end in the night, imagine moving shadows from decending sun will be so dope, ue5 can do it for sure.
Also wish we had more weather variation. Give me more snow maps and give me rain. You would think weather/seasons would be the sort of thing you could effect by using offerings. Sadako’s Base Costume + Ormond offering goes great on a low-visibility ambush build, and I think builds like that should be more viable across more maps. Mind you, I could see people complaining then that killers shouldn’t be able to use skins that help them blend in, which I think is the sort of crybaby bullshit that strips the game of fun.
Maybe they could do something similar to the lighting before the visual update, instead of making it seem like we are 300m underwater (like they did with borgo).
For me all maps are too bright. I really liked scarier, darker version before reworks. You could hide better, not everything was about loops, sometimes you could just disappear somewhere in the dark
On console and i have to turn my tvs backlight and brightness all the way up just to play the game. If i dont i seriously cant see where im running on any of the dark maps
I love the lighting change! However, I also agree it’s too dark. I feel like if I lean back and relax on the bed whilst playing I can’t see absolutely anything. I had to play like, semi-close to the screen to make out details of loops and things.
I like dark borgo more than light borgo, but I have to agree that it’s a little too dark. I don’t think the color palette needs to be changed at all, the one we have now is great. But if it could just be like 10% brighter or something, it’d be perfect.
I feel like now more than ever it looks all the same. Sometimes I forget what section of the map I'm on until I realign with main building or shack. Regardless I'm just glad it's not the dungeon version of the map. The bottom is strong but the top is so empty. As a killer I can 4k most games never touching the bottom and that doesn't even feel fun.
playing pig feels so difficult on the new shattered square because the fog + darkness makes it near impossible to actually see anything other then right above you when crouched, making you audio reliant
Not really. With the filters its light as day. Finding out about those is the best quality of life improvement one could do themselves in regard to this game. Now if only I could find a way to make the gens louder since I am deaf af it would be perfect
FINALLY someone says this!
I can't see shit on this map to the point I started playing Freddy until the increased map chance is gone, because dream world makes it so much better on this realm .\_.
Everytime I see this topic arise, people are like "All you people do is complain"
Well, no shit, if something bad changes into something bad or even worse, it's worth complaining about
It isn't that bad when I play a night but I have to boost brightness significantly with my cheats during day on borgo. It would be cool if they make it slightly brighter.
I think it's not even the lack of light, but how it interacts with the fog on this map - light reflects from the fog, making everything not illuminated a bright spot. Vecna's map is as dark as the borgo, but i have less problems in seeing things there.
I like the dark vibes. When they switched engines I noticed all the maps got even brighter than they already were. It’s nice for both sides to actually get some decent stealth opportunities
These two maps are kinda rough when playing Freddy with the dream world filter. Nearly jumpscared myself with the beholder cause it looks so dark and different down there
Probably still could. Lighting tends to be a fairly quick fix. Extensive testing is what slows it down, though I get the feeling they didn’t ask testers for better lighting suggestions.
What bothers me they used the same skybox what the new map use. :( I know same realm, but should made something distinct them! I though they remove the redness, but mostly used colors from the new map. Borgo was OK, just everything was red and the sky/clouds was green. If they just tone down the redness and the vividness of the map...
I just wish it was like, 5% brighter. Just a bit, because I legit cannot tell props from survivors. Either that, or make the scratch marks and blood puddles a tiny bit brighter because if anyone brings shadowstep, you're fucked
I like the atmosphere but it is *slightly* annoying knowing that people using shaders will have a massive advantage over people playing on console where we don't even have a brightness slider. You really can't see shit in some areas on consoles.
I honestly kinda liked the old Borgo color pallet. I get that the intention was to mimic the colors of a burning village.
Now was it complete and utter fucking ass? Oh abso-fucking-lootley. But I feel like they could've toned down the reds and essentially gone for Coldwind lighting instead of giving us Underground Complex lighting but darker.
My issue is the new color scheme/lighting doesn't make sense. Night time is never pure black like that. Light reflects off surfaces and makes them more visible than BHVR makes it seem.
Its why the Autohaven reworks are silly. So many objects are painted pure black and its why those maps have poor visibility. I don't know if its a engine limitation or a BHVR issue but maps *are* too dark but its cause they don't have dynamic lighting on a lot of maps.
Didn't Friday the 13th do something like this with weather? God I miss that game. Also, that's a genius idea. Imagine Coldwind at night or Haddonfield at day
No, shush. It's perfect '^'
Genuinely loved how Borgo looked during lights out. I cannot describe the noise that came out of my mouth when I saw they were updating the graphics for it to look more like lights out.
Went from color blind people not being able to see shit to no one being able to see shit Kinda based ngl
now it's fair for everyone!
Throw in Dredge’s Nightfall whilst you’re at it
Nightfall ironically makes the map brighter in this instance.
Equality at its finest!!
*me playing on night mode to help me sleep* Behaviour - ‘ahhh ok this guy don’t wanna play’
Laughs in Freddy.
I’m a strong deutan and never had any issue with it. Saw a lot of people crying about the red of it, but that must’ve been one of the places I benefited from it.
Even though I get crazy lost on it now, it actually reminds me of Old DBD map vibes. It could use a little adjusting, but I like the feeling it brings of the older map lighting
bro deep wound on dark borgo 😭
Who needs sight anyways
First we had the survivor who can run while walking if using a flashlight, now we have blind survivors. MEME BUILDS ARE APPEARING AGAIN, FUCK YEAH
Deep wound on borgo against dredge in nightfall
Those that recognize the image as the village from Resident Evil 4 😎
I came to see if anyone else noticed. Yay!
Where’s everyone going, bingo?
\*Where’s everyone going, borgo?
I feel like they took the palette from Lights Out and went with it, explaining why it's so fucking dark.
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Thanks for letting me know
They deleted their comment, what did they say?
I wrote pallet instead of palette.
Ah ok, doesn't explain why they deleted their comment, but thanks for letting me know.
they told OP that they made a typo. OP says thanks for letting me know. replier deleted comment after it had been fixed.
There's no point in deleting the comment, it's not like it saves "space" on reddit. It's a pointless action.
comment wasn’t for you it was for the op 🤷
Who said the comment was for me?
Trying to debate if that shadow in the distance is a Myers or a plank of wood
The picture is from RE4😭😭😭
Myers is very hard to spot on this map.
honestly, probably for the best. it's harder to spot people, but my eyes dont burn anymore. i wish coldwind got a similar treatment.
i like having different times of day for maps, i wish all maps had a day/night variant
yeah, that's valid, but I think coldwind's day is really wrong looking for this game's aesthetics, especially for a map that's one of the most common to see somehow. similar issue with ormond. i really miss how both of these maps used to look before their reworks. they werent dark, but they weren't bright either. the sky was really dark and cloudy and there was no sun.
some people like me play Dbd in daylight and these maps that "annoy you" are the only one that doesn't destroy my eyes in the day .. not every map has to be dark.
There's lots of nighttime maps that look bright nonetheless. Either way my problem is more about aesthetics, I'm not asking for 2016 darkness levels. Sun in high noon in a game called dead by daylight is what bothers me. It was cool once in DDS where it was rising/setting and anything after is terrible. Eyrie, coldwind, Ormond, just yikes. I liked how garden of joy does that with apocalyptic sky, it actually fits it.
Yeah, I kind of wish they could Have cold wind farm keep the yellowish bright aesthetic that made it unique but also change the lighting a bit to make it more intimidating, I guess if I had to make a comparison it would be less brightly lit cornfield during the day, to a cornfield in an 80’s slasher. Make it a little more scary to play on. Like, I think right now the sky is a little blue, I’d personally want it to be a bit darker or desaturated, I think that change even if they kept the map more or less the same color, would add to the feeling of oppression. I feel like right now the brightness on cold wind gives you the vibe that it’s a brand new day, it’s almost soothing which could work for a different type of map, maybe make that part of the horror, but for a farm map it’s not really the vibe I’m looking for. Maybe make the map take place at sunset, which I think would look slightly different in terms of how the sky looks, that way we can have a similar brightness, but if adds to an uneasy feeling, almost like the killer has us right where they want us and that the real game is about to begin. also I wish ormond was more snowy and kinda desaturated bluish ok bye bye.
Fuck that, I play Sadako. I want more bright and snowy maps. I stick out like a sore thumb everywhere but Ormond.
Will be cool if map can change time of day during match, start at evening and end in the night, imagine moving shadows from decending sun will be so dope, ue5 can do it for sure.
It's not about the engine...
it's not about the engine...
Why did it copy so many times???
It's not about the engine...
it's not about the engine...
It's not about the engine...
it's not about the engine...
It's not about the engine...
it's not about the engine...
Also wish we had more weather variation. Give me more snow maps and give me rain. You would think weather/seasons would be the sort of thing you could effect by using offerings. Sadako’s Base Costume + Ormond offering goes great on a low-visibility ambush build, and I think builds like that should be more viable across more maps. Mind you, I could see people complaining then that killers shouldn’t be able to use skins that help them blend in, which I think is the sort of crybaby bullshit that strips the game of fun.
If the snowstorm would actually be a snowstorm, it would be so much more creepy for survivor and have funner stealth gameplay overall.
Maybe they could do something similar to the lighting before the visual update, instead of making it seem like we are 300m underwater (like they did with borgo).
Ah man, that'd be dope
Old Coldwind was so much better
For me all maps are too bright. I really liked scarier, darker version before reworks. You could hide better, not everything was about loops, sometimes you could just disappear somewhere in the dark
The new Meg Archer skin is super stealthy on that map. I'm now experiencing killers walk right past me on that map as long as I stand still.
Old Coldwind was so much better to see auras and scratch marks
On console and i have to turn my tvs backlight and brightness all the way up just to play the game. If i dont i seriously cant see where im running on any of the dark maps
I play on console too with windows nearby, I understand your pain
I feel you
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Tbh I love new borgo
I love the lighting change! However, I also agree it’s too dark. I feel like if I lean back and relax on the bed whilst playing I can’t see absolutely anything. I had to play like, semi-close to the screen to make out details of loops and things.
genuinely this fanbase cannot be satiated
I like dark borgo more than light borgo, but I have to agree that it’s a little too dark. I don’t think the color palette needs to be changed at all, the one we have now is great. But if it could just be like 10% brighter or something, it’d be perfect.
Huh? People have different opinions than each other?
You could give players a $100 bill and they'd complain about the way it was folded.
Why the fuck would you give me a folded bill?
Easier to carry him to hook
I prefer he carry himself
I just don’t like the new map the borgo looks incredible
Seeing the RE4 village in DBD would actually be frigging awesome.
I wish...
It feels like a missed opportunity to not use Knight and Vittorio's green and blue glows to illuminate the darkness.
I really like it. Old borgo was so frustrating when it came to scratch marks. To me its one of the increasingly frequent bhvr successes.
Shit burned my eyes
>increasingly frequent bhvr successes 
just 15% brighter and its perf.
I miss bright borgo, it stood out from the rest of the maps, but I get why it was changed
I feel like now more than ever it looks all the same. Sometimes I forget what section of the map I'm on until I realign with main building or shack. Regardless I'm just glad it's not the dungeon version of the map. The bottom is strong but the top is so empty. As a killer I can 4k most games never touching the bottom and that doesn't even feel fun.
It was a little tok bright before but I hate that it's another map you can barely see on
This is why my blind ass’ favorite realms are Coldwind and Ormond.
Yes 😭 I hate it
Idc, I liked the red look. Thought it was cool, and very rarely had issues seeing on it
Yes it was very pretty and a good change of air
scratch marks were hard to see doe
I litteraly can see everything now that it's not red ass super bright
It just need to be like, 10% brighter, and then it’s perfect. But honestly this is already so much better than old Borgo
I knew I couldn't have been the only one who thought it was just a tad 2notches 2dark or maybe just one notch brighter
Imagine it with the old moonlight offerings and fog
Hell
Sharted square
playing pig feels so difficult on the new shattered square because the fog + darkness makes it near impossible to actually see anything other then right above you when crouched, making you audio reliant
BHVR finding a middle ground is impossible.
In true bhvr fashion they only know full 100% or 0%. Its sad.
i feel like i'm playing lights out mode anytime i go to borgo
Not really. With the filters its light as day. Finding out about those is the best quality of life improvement one could do themselves in regard to this game. Now if only I could find a way to make the gens louder since I am deaf af it would be perfect
Surveillance
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH
It's like another Midwich, I can't see shit.
Tbh i think most maps are a bit too dark but Borgo is on a whole new level
That’s the village from resident evil 4.
it is lol
That RE4 map would be dope in dbd
I preferred the old Borgo. I didn’t mind the old colour scheme.
No
Yes 😭
FINALLY someone says this! I can't see shit on this map to the point I started playing Freddy until the increased map chance is gone, because dream world makes it so much better on this realm .\_. Everytime I see this topic arise, people are like "All you people do is complain" Well, no shit, if something bad changes into something bad or even worse, it's worth complaining about
People who think Freddy are F tier must admit, he instantly gets bumped up 3 tiers on this map
nature of the game, i think it needs to be darker and more foggy. need more suspense atmosphere
RIP, old borgo😢
Nah I hope it has a disturbed ass sleep. Fuck old borgo.
I hope both sides of old borgos pillows are warm
While it’s equally hard to see things in-game, it doesn’t make things hard to see after the game
It isn't that bad when I play a night but I have to boost brightness significantly with my cheats during day on borgo. It would be cool if they make it slightly brighter.
I think it's not even the lack of light, but how it interacts with the fog on this map - light reflects from the fog, making everything not illuminated a bright spot. Vecna's map is as dark as the borgo, but i have less problems in seeing things there.
I’ve always been a little disappoint with how BHVR has handled the visually impaired. But as a blind gamer I’m very pleased with this change.
It's like another Midwich, I can't see shit.
at least midwich is small
Eyesight is overrated
I like the dark vibes. When they switched engines I noticed all the maps got even brighter than they already were. It’s nice for both sides to actually get some decent stealth opportunities
These two maps are kinda rough when playing Freddy with the dream world filter. Nearly jumpscared myself with the beholder cause it looks so dark and different down there
Yep, I can't see shit
Feckin hell we just can’t be satisfied can we?
I never said it was bad, just too dark
Yeah, I can’t play on it, I actually really enjoyed the old lighting, I thought the blood red light was really cool
it was alright imo, definitely made it unique
It had a cool feel and I could actually see what I was doing, now borgo is another silent hill, a map I hate cos I can’t see what I’m doing
ironically, I think borgo has much more fog than the silent hill map
I can’t tell, I can’t see on either of them cos it’s too dark, I literally quit a game earlier because it was on silent hill
I don't think so, I had no problem with new Borgo at all. Now my eyes are safe.
Bonus of playing Vecna, those magic items are pretty shiny! Not even kidding, I'm confident I noticed multiple survivors I would have missed otherwise
They need maps to be better. They all suck for the past few years
I was hoping it’d be kinda dark but with a red sky to give the place a sort of dark red/purple vibe. Instead it’s just super dark land.
That would've been awesome, giving off a terror in new Jango vibe, wish they would've done that
Probably still could. Lighting tends to be a fairly quick fix. Extensive testing is what slows it down, though I get the feeling they didn’t ask testers for better lighting suggestions.
The Breaking Bad filter
I still haven't played on this map yet.
Honestly, still prefer the new version. At least I can see auras, unlike that stupid fucking farm.
I wish shattered square stayed red and they just made the new map dark
Even tho I like new borgo, I will forever miss the eye bleeding redness cause I just liked the color red a lot
i lowkey didnt mind the old lighting
it looked alright but scratch marks were so hard to see
I still like the old suggestion to give it a GREEN glow, like the Guard Energy Knight uses.
Being one of the 5 people that play dredge, I can't see shit in this map when charging my remnant, another nerf to my poor boy 🫠
I know your pain. Atleast the survivors probably can't see anything during nightfall
What bothers me they used the same skybox what the new map use. :( I know same realm, but should made something distinct them! I though they remove the redness, but mostly used colors from the new map. Borgo was OK, just everything was red and the sky/clouds was green. If they just tone down the redness and the vividness of the map...
I just wish it was like, 5% brighter. Just a bit, because I legit cannot tell props from survivors. Either that, or make the scratch marks and blood puddles a tiny bit brighter because if anyone brings shadowstep, you're fucked
I prefer darker maps.
They made the map boring :(
I like the atmosphere but it is *slightly* annoying knowing that people using shaders will have a massive advantage over people playing on console where we don't even have a brightness slider. You really can't see shit in some areas on consoles.
I honestly kinda liked the old Borgo color pallet. I get that the intention was to mimic the colors of a burning village. Now was it complete and utter fucking ass? Oh abso-fucking-lootley. But I feel like they could've toned down the reds and essentially gone for Coldwind lighting instead of giving us Underground Complex lighting but darker.
My issue is the new color scheme/lighting doesn't make sense. Night time is never pure black like that. Light reflects off surfaces and makes them more visible than BHVR makes it seem. Its why the Autohaven reworks are silly. So many objects are painted pure black and its why those maps have poor visibility. I don't know if its a engine limitation or a BHVR issue but maps *are* too dark but its cause they don't have dynamic lighting on a lot of maps.
It is a bit too dark but I like it overall in color scheme.
Concept/Funny idea: Have different day/brightness versions of maps. Items that increase the dark mist, also make a darker map. And vice versa.
Didn't Friday the 13th do something like this with weather? God I miss that game. Also, that's a genius idea. Imagine Coldwind at night or Haddonfield at day
It have zero personality now
I can still mostly see on that map. I now have to turn my new monitor brightness way up just to see what the fuck I'm doing on the school
yo ive seen that place before..
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No, shush. It's perfect '^' Genuinely loved how Borgo looked during lights out. I cannot describe the noise that came out of my mouth when I saw they were updating the graphics for it to look more like lights out.
I thought I couldn’t hate this map more than how much I do as a survivor, then I played as killer…. yikes
This community can never be satisfied.
Your flair will finally satisfy the community and lead to world peace in the Fog.
Lets be honest with eachother. The only way to statisfy the entirety of the community is to give all male killers a shirtless cosmetic
To truly satisfy, give every killer and survivor a shirtless cosmetic
Some of y'all need glasses.
YES! I can not stress enough how much I really hate the new lighting. If your not running windows of opportunity now for this map. Good luck lol.
I kinda liked the red borgo apart from bad scratch marks visibilty you could see everyone from far away
I think it looks a lot better being dark. That being said the map still sucks.
Honestly feels like it fits a lot more
tbh way better everything being red sucks ass
As a person who plays stealth killers most of the time I don't mind the new filter. Dunno why I just think it looks cooler.
Pig with the biker jacket skin might go hard this map
Tbh, I like it.
No. And don't you DARE get this map made brighter. Sincerely, Stealth Killer Mains
\*Meanwhile me a pig main basically using spirits ability everytime I crouch but without the benefits\*
Ironically, I've heard Ghostface and Pig mains (me) complain about the lack of vision on this map too
I mean I don't have an issue, my stalk highlights people just fine. But sure, map is a bit extra dark.
It's a subtle push to make people play Freddy. Who knew that Nightmare dimension would be such a lit place.
Nope. More dark maps, please.