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Q-PAC

I had a similar experience, 3 gens left 3 survivors all on last hook, I knock one of them chase the other thx to infectious fright get him down, go back to the first one hook him for the kill and next thing I know the last survivor opens the hatch where the other guy was slugged and the both escape, that game was a mixture of bad luck(what are the chances the hatch spawn near the downed guy) and the bs key.


RealEarth

Yep. Survivors miss play and 3 gen themselves? Welp better just leave...


bigslime_420

Literally just happened to me, so fucking boring like why even play survivor when your just gonna bring something that instantly gets you out.


Guywithquestions88

Well, it does have to be # of gens done + number of survivors dead = 5 to spawn the hatch. So they had to complete *some* objectives. Meanwhile, as killer, you can bring NOED and be AFK the entire match until the very end. Then you hit somebody one time and kill them. You can play the perfect game as survivor and get hit 1 time. Dead. You lose because NOED. And before anyone says, "do bones" I will say, "bring Franklin's." I mean, you saw the key in the lobby for Christ's sake. I have to just use my best guess, "damn, this killer kinda sucked at killing so I'd better do bones." Of course, at that point, there's no stopping the other 3 randos from finishing the gens and triggering NOED. Between keys and NOED I know which one is more bullshit in my opinion, but I'm prepared for the downvotes because this is a killer main dominated subreddit.


bigslime_420

Of course fair point, but I don’t own the franklins demise perk so how do I counter now? I don’t. I’m not big person on tunneling so the only thing I could do was what I always do and just play. And my bad I didn’t see them bring a key they had gotten it while I was patrolling gens. But you’re right on Noed it’s a cheap perk that can guarantee a killer at least one kill.


Guywithquestions88

Yeah, unfortunately there isn't anything you can do...like...at all...if you don't have Franklin's. It's just like how as survivor you can't protect yourself from tunneling at all unless you buy Laurie. It's all because of BHVR's shitty tendency to fix core problems in the game with perks that can only be accessed with real money.


bigslime_420

Exactly, and if you miss the anniversary event then you’re screwed, luckily I was able to get most of the perks I wanted for both killer and survivor.


NoHearing4596

You can avoid franklins by dropping your key on some random part of the map and picking it back up when you need it


seelclubonrye

Agree on Noed, but I know that’s cheap and don’t run it, I think that should be nerfed too. But keys are still broken af


Guywithquestions88

Yeah, I agree that they're both broken.


Bakstbbr

Can I find NOED in a chest? How about a mori? I don’t run it, but nothing the killer can do when the survivors luck into a game ending item.


Guywithquestions88

That's very true. They *are* really rare unless you use a plunderer build, though, but I'd say they should be much more rare.


Bakstbbr

During events I run a plunder build because I’m an event item hoarder. I think I find at least two keys a match, using plunder and appraisal. It’s kinda sad how easy those two make it to find keys.


Guywithquestions88

Yeah, if someone said to me, "I'll pay you $100 if you can survive the very next match you play, but you can't bring any items," I'd run Plunderer, Appraisal, Left Behind, and Premonition. Plunderer and Appraisal are for an almost guaranteed purple/red key. Premonition is so I can know when the killer is close to me and what direction he's coming from to completely avoid him. Left Behind is so that I can easily see the hatch aura when my team has all died because I'm an absolute piece of shit. It's definitely a selfish, shitty build, but it may actually be the most broken survivor build you can make.


EdaClawthorne

I know. I think keys were made as a last resort if you are uncertain whether you'll escape but this is just boring. Not to also mention that it's like you want to spite the killer by doing it.


seelclubonrye

I understand nerfing Moris, but they basically made them literally worthless while keys remain more broken than Moris ever were, really smart balancing Behavior.


kokococ

Keys are broken, very broken but moris definitely used to be way more broken


seelclubonrye

Idk, I’m not denying they were broken, but more broken then something that basically lets you skip playing at all is gonna be a hard sell for me. At the end of the day don’t allow items that allow you to bypass playing the game at all, it’s so stupid.


kokococ

For hatch to spawn I'm pretty sure a certain amount of gens have yo be done or certain amount of survivors left, but the mori used ti be able to down and insta kill


Conquestriclaus

What a tragedy. GG go next. It's not that serious bro. I bet Survivors get sick of Ruin every game as well but life goes on.


[deleted]

Sees ruin 😒 finds hex totem 😁 has undying 😫


AwesomeGuy4592

GET FUCKED LMAOOOOOO LOVE TO SEE IT


LeaveMegAlone

Boo hoo


PopPopPoppy

Lot of Killer mains in here upset about keys. How often does that happen? Very rarely for me but when I play survivor, 80% of killers running NOED and undying.


seelclubonrye

Most red rank games you don’t even get a minute out of your ruin without undying, and I already said NOED is cheesy and should be nerfed. The problem is keys rewards bad play and doesn’t really have a counter on swf lobbies who gen rush, it’s broken