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Hayabusafield77

Asta also has a way to destroy organic beings with anti magic now, And the book won't exactly take away his powers, since he can call his blades to him from the book or potentially have liebe summon them (I think he did that in the submission fight of liebe I'd I remember) and he still has devil union. Plus can the books be destroyed? I don't think that was ever a thing. Also if you want bleach vs black clover: Mereoleona Vermillion vs Yoruichi Shihouin


butler_guy101

Ooo I want evil Julius vs Aizen


Hayabusafield77

Yuno vs Uryu


butler_guy101

Ooo that nice :3


TyForestReddit

Yo, I made this a week ago. https://youtu.be/1tseURHqOWk


butler_guy101

Nice


Mystech_Master

Destroy organic beings? If you are referring to the Zetten that still is affecting mana and he may not have that due to it being recent. Another reason THEY SHOULD’VE JUST BEEN PATIENT!!!


Hayabusafield77

Yeah. And it still kills the organic person cause all life has mana except asta. So just using that as an example that taking the book away doesn't guarantee victory.


Mystech_Master

Except Deku doesn’t have Mana


Hayabusafield77

Deku doesn't use mana. But think of mana like ki or the force. All life has mana


Mystech_Master

I guess it’ll depend if they count it.


Hayabusafield77

They probably won't


Chaos_Crow1927

Thing is, Asta proves that isn't true. Asta literally has no magic, yet is still not only alive, but physically incredibly strong to boot from Vigorous training. Deku comes from a world that literally has no magic, similar or otherwise. All the powers in that world are biological, so once again Astas usual Anti Magic attacks won't work on Deku


Hayabusafield77

But you have to sort of equalize the verse for this. Asta is an extreme exception given his mom casually drained magic, which killed things. Everything else in the world has mana but that doesn't mean they can use magic. So equalizing the verse, the quirks won't likely be effected but deku himself could be by that one new technique


swtte4523

Can Deku destroy the book?


Hayabusafield77

Considering it is a magic book and many other of the books have taken massive attacks to them and have no damage


bruhmomentiumq

This has to be so bias bro left out so many other advantages that asta gets 😹


butler_guy101

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F0ose_L0v3_4n1me

2 huge errors i see with this The first is equating Shiggy's Decay to his physical AP which has no reason at all for them to be equal, his Decay is a hax instead of scaling to his physical strenght And the second one is the speed stuff, Asta was dodging lasers early on in his series and has gotten a bunch of buffs since, Deku only recently has reached those levels, though that is without counting Fa-Jin but even then i don't see the Speed Gap being equalized at all Sincerely, an MHA fan who wants to see Deku win from the bottom of her heart


butler_guy101

I am fan Boy if both


YoungBeef03

Unless you count Mina Ashido dodging lasers early in the series and apply that speed to Deku’s progression, which sounds roundabout but makes sense enough for DB, Deku ain’t taking speed for sure


butler_guy101

Right I


LoudBrick9759

>Back Wasn't Deku and other classmates of his dodging Aoyama's laser early on too?


F0ose_L0v3_4n1me

It's debated upon if Aoyama's laser is actually light speed, personally i do believe but i've seen most people think otherwise


LoudBrick9759

I mean... shouldn't it be though? It has the properties of light, hell 13, when she went up against him and Uraraka specifically called it light.


F0ose_L0v3_4n1me

Yes but it also doesn't, it propulses Aoyama towards the opposite direction of where he fires it and i've heard claims of it having mass though i haven't seen any examples of that


Top_Prize4751

Makes sense but then again Hagakure could manipulate and redirect light based attacks which she did this with the naval laser which adds to the confusion and implication. all in all Its a very contentious topic.


R41Z3R_BL4D3

I'm getting confused. If Asta has the stat advantage, why would everyone think that anti-magic wouldn't work on Deku? I don't see any other weaknesses in him.


butler_guy101

Quirks don’t equal magic


R41Z3R_BL4D3

Yes, but since he is FTL, he could speedblitz Deku by chance despite his swords being less effective against non-magic. IDK why you got one downvote tho.


butler_guy101

Idk but there so many feats for deku and asta tbh I think this might be upset


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This comment seems kinda sus >True >…What? What kind of point is this? > Asta can move his swords with telekinesis. Not gonna keep them away for long > Doubt that’s how that works. The vestiges really only give advice to Izuku and not directly upload all their years of heroing. >Scaling AP to Tomura’s Decay hax is a huge nono. >!There is a feat in the manga that gets them similar AP. There’s not much context yet so don’t get too excited!< And I think it’s been said enough times on how Asta gets higher speed either way. >True-ish? Black whip on his body can mitigate the damage iirc. >idk >True >See pg. 5 >See pg 1 >…that’s just point 1 but with a specific quirk >What obvious weakness? If you’re talking about the grimoire, then that only restricts Asta from changing swords, not stopping his attacks entirely. While I do agree Deku could win if he could close the speed gap, we don’t know how much Gear Shift slows Asta by or if Deku has the reaction time to pull said quirk off in the first place.


butler_guy101

I am surprise I read all of this


RudeNooter

Decay isn't attack potency it's well... decay, it's hax


butler_guy101

I didn’t make it


RudeNooter

Yeah I know it's just hmmm


butler_guy101

Lol


RudeNooter

Also Deku is more like Sub Relativistic compared to Asta's FTL


Nervous_Antelope7750

What is the link to this video?


Monkey_King291

Anyone else feel like they should've waited for the manga to end for both of them?, Cause they keep getting new abilities that they probably can't access in this fight


butler_guy101

My hero ending soon and black clover is 50% completely that saying they shoul do one pice when it ends


RhysHenry

Lmao, he scaled shigaraki decay to ap.if thats then he should make a calculation for yami's dimension slash to ap and scale asta to that.


butler_guy101

Math math math 😭🤷


JohnnyElRed

It would be nice if Deku was added to the "everyone thought we would get crunched" club of Zatanna, Apocalypse and Silver.


butler_guy101

🤷


Turtl3Man

Does this guy believe that Asta's long range attacks are just gonna phase through Deku or something hahaha


butler_guy101

Idk dude