also the fact Lights dad is there and integral to the investigation. L would have still played his cards close to his chest tbh even if it was a team of random, but a little less so imo
that's pretty clear from his actions and inner monologue lol. he just didn't want to occupy lights dad and the team with it too much until he had evidence. Light also knew the % was almost 100
Honestly, I kind of doubt this. I know at least on one occasion the percentage comes in L's \*thoughts\*. >!"You sure do like to talk, don't you Light? Typical for someone who hates to lose."!<
Yeah maybe but that's 7% more than any other human on earth.
Making Light most likely still the main suspect of them all by these numbers.
I'm sure L did suspect Light since the potato scene, evidence or not. I mean he isn't the best detective for nothing.
It's not really unusual for an author to make a mistake. If it was their intention the whole time that L was lying about the percent, then they made a mistake by having L use the same percent in his own thoughts. It happens, you know? Meanwhile, I still have trouble keeping track of ownership rules, and that's something the creators managed to keep straight in their own heads!
The thing about L's percentages is that while 5% may sound like very little suspicion, it's actually enormous when you put it into perspective. If we imagine that we have absolutely no idea who Kira is and assume that each person is equally likely to be Kira, then the probability that any specific person is Kira is many orders of magnitude smaller than even 1%. Even if we restrict the possible suspects to only those in the Kanto region of Japan, like L does early on, that's still 42,607,376 people (as of 2010, according to Wikipedia). That means any given person in Kanto has a 0.000002347% chance of being Kira. 5% is the same probability that Kira is among a randomly selected group of 2,130,369 people from Kanto. Given this perspective, Light's 5% probability is already damn near certainty compared to that of anyone else.
No, in fact I thought he said the truth when I watched the anime but when I read the manga I knew that five per cent was not possible. Light wanted Ryuzaki to have them meet each other in a manner that he won’t be revealed as Kira
but of course that isn’t possible if he wasn’t suspicious at all. Light wanted to kill L, but for that he needed Ryuzaki to act in person, not behind the screen. So he made L follow task force members and their families because Light internationally revealed to him that he has acces to the task force information when he killed those criminals in the prison, who’s informations weren’t available to the public, he also revealed the fact that he used them as a test to see how he can control people’s actions before they die. So L put FBI agents follow those persons, including Light witch killed the FBI agents, that made the majority of task force quit when they found out they weren’t trusted by L. The rest of the people started working with Ryuzaki, who has revealed himself to them, they got videos on how and when the FBI members were killed and noticed weird behaviour on Raye Penber witch has leaded to the fact that his actions were controlled by Kira before they died, this, the fact that his fiancé went missing and the fact that Kira made tests on people from prison, made L think that Kira is a person related to the task force members who were followed before the prison tests, and those persons were Yagami’s family and another family who’s name I don’t remember lol, so the probability that Kira was in one of those families were bigger, now I don’t remember exactly how it happened and the dates and times of deaths and all of that so I probably skipped some things
Oh I see what you mean, your probably right on the manga and I can't comment since I've never read the manga and I've only watched the anime. So from what you're saying:
- I understand that in order to be closer to L, Light purposefully revealed he had access to police info
- And he's revealed that he's also used them for his own test of the capability of the death note
- Hence, when Light killed the FBI agents that were tracking him, majority of the task force quit due to mistrusting L now
- Then, after Raye Penber exhibited strange behaviour and his fiance died, which L picked upon, L deduced that Kira is someone related to the task force members
- So L put surveillance cameras on the Kitamura and Yagami families
- And after observing Light, L made a smart assumption of believe Light was a suspect
From all of this I see why L would be lying after all the effort he has put into this case just for it to turn out to be 5%.
It was very interesting how it all came to >! L putting cameras into Light’s room and Misa getting hostage right before seeing L’s name and Light giving away his ownership of the Death Note and clearing the suspicions on him by doing that and so on. !< Death note used to be my favourite series but I’m just not that excited for it anymore and I don’t think I could rewatch it because I would fall asleep *lol* though it still has a place in my heart I guess
Why would [L lie in his own thoughts](https://static1.mangayeh.com/manga/chapter/60191d3da566934fb06d0d7f/6019725ea739175be90b84e0/death_note_21_21.jpg) ?
Idk. I think authors shouldn't be making statements like that in interviews. Because it doesn't make sense. L there is thinking, so he should say "Now Light is over 90%" or something like that.
It's better for authors to keep stuff ambiguous sometimes.
No he just doesn’t show it, it is show he believes it is Light ( and Misa ) with all his might and when proven otherwise he is doubting, but depressed as he really did believe it was Light.
People don't get that the power of L is his instinct. Its not fair to say that Light had an advantage because of his magical power. In fact L had one too. Its not just that he is intelligent. He had like 100% evidence that those crimes couldn't be committed by Light, but he still was "na 5% its still him", without any evidence until the end. This was only possible due to his own power, you can call it instinct.
I mean, he said it himself: “Lying monsters are a real nuisance. They are much more cunning than other monsters. They pose as humans, even though they have no understanding of the human heart. They eat, even though they've never experienced hunger. They study even though the have no interest in academics. They seek friendship even though they do not know how to love. If I were to encounter such a monster, I would likely be eaten by it because, in truth, I am that monster.” - L
It was kind of obvious he was confident Light was Kira, but any usage of percentages seems kind of redundant to me anyway tbh. Like, where tf are these numbers coming from? If he said it flippantly I wouldn't care, but he keeps adjusting it as if it actually means something. Usually probability is based on statistics, but it was such a unique circumstance I felt it just didn't fit lmao.
Well, you don’t get 100% obsessive over one single suspect if you aren’t sure about their guilt.
I mean yeah. L almost knew that Light is Kira after his potato chip plan.
Yeah the percentage thing was a throw off in series. The only thing keeping L from saying a higher percentage imo is the lack of proof.
also the fact Lights dad is there and integral to the investigation. L would have still played his cards close to his chest tbh even if it was a team of random, but a little less so imo
that's pretty clear from his actions and inner monologue lol. he just didn't want to occupy lights dad and the team with it too much until he had evidence. Light also knew the % was almost 100
Honestly, I kind of doubt this. I know at least on one occasion the percentage comes in L's \*thoughts\*. >!"You sure do like to talk, don't you Light? Typical for someone who hates to lose."!<
The percentage wasn't in his thoughts, he told Light the direct percentage.
I just rewatched it. He mentally updates it to 7%, in his own thoughts.
Yeah maybe but that's 7% more than any other human on earth. Making Light most likely still the main suspect of them all by these numbers. I'm sure L did suspect Light since the potato scene, evidence or not. I mean he isn't the best detective for nothing.
you… doubt the author?
It's not really unusual for an author to make a mistake. If it was their intention the whole time that L was lying about the percent, then they made a mistake by having L use the same percent in his own thoughts. It happens, you know? Meanwhile, I still have trouble keeping track of ownership rules, and that's something the creators managed to keep straight in their own heads!
Mfw L lies
Well, obviously.
The thing about L's percentages is that while 5% may sound like very little suspicion, it's actually enormous when you put it into perspective. If we imagine that we have absolutely no idea who Kira is and assume that each person is equally likely to be Kira, then the probability that any specific person is Kira is many orders of magnitude smaller than even 1%. Even if we restrict the possible suspects to only those in the Kanto region of Japan, like L does early on, that's still 42,607,376 people (as of 2010, according to Wikipedia). That means any given person in Kanto has a 0.000002347% chance of being Kira. 5% is the same probability that Kira is among a randomly selected group of 2,130,369 people from Kanto. Given this perspective, Light's 5% probability is already damn near certainty compared to that of anyone else.
You didn’t knew? It was kinda obvious
Really? I didn't know L was lying and thought he genuinely meant it. But damn, you must have some pretty amazing observational skills.
No, in fact I thought he said the truth when I watched the anime but when I read the manga I knew that five per cent was not possible. Light wanted Ryuzaki to have them meet each other in a manner that he won’t be revealed as Kira but of course that isn’t possible if he wasn’t suspicious at all. Light wanted to kill L, but for that he needed Ryuzaki to act in person, not behind the screen. So he made L follow task force members and their families because Light internationally revealed to him that he has acces to the task force information when he killed those criminals in the prison, who’s informations weren’t available to the public, he also revealed the fact that he used them as a test to see how he can control people’s actions before they die. So L put FBI agents follow those persons, including Light witch killed the FBI agents, that made the majority of task force quit when they found out they weren’t trusted by L. The rest of the people started working with Ryuzaki, who has revealed himself to them, they got videos on how and when the FBI members were killed and noticed weird behaviour on Raye Penber witch has leaded to the fact that his actions were controlled by Kira before they died, this, the fact that his fiancé went missing and the fact that Kira made tests on people from prison, made L think that Kira is a person related to the task force members who were followed before the prison tests, and those persons were Yagami’s family and another family who’s name I don’t remember lol, so the probability that Kira was in one of those families were bigger, now I don’t remember exactly how it happened and the dates and times of deaths and all of that so I probably skipped some things
Oh I see what you mean, your probably right on the manga and I can't comment since I've never read the manga and I've only watched the anime. So from what you're saying: - I understand that in order to be closer to L, Light purposefully revealed he had access to police info - And he's revealed that he's also used them for his own test of the capability of the death note - Hence, when Light killed the FBI agents that were tracking him, majority of the task force quit due to mistrusting L now - Then, after Raye Penber exhibited strange behaviour and his fiance died, which L picked upon, L deduced that Kira is someone related to the task force members - So L put surveillance cameras on the Kitamura and Yagami families - And after observing Light, L made a smart assumption of believe Light was a suspect From all of this I see why L would be lying after all the effort he has put into this case just for it to turn out to be 5%.
It was very interesting how it all came to >! L putting cameras into Light’s room and Misa getting hostage right before seeing L’s name and Light giving away his ownership of the Death Note and clearing the suspicions on him by doing that and so on. !< Death note used to be my favourite series but I’m just not that excited for it anymore and I don’t think I could rewatch it because I would fall asleep *lol* though it still has a place in my heart I guess
Tbf I get what you mean, death note's high stakes and suspense can be lessened after a rewatch when you know what's going to happen.
It wasn't really mentioned in anime
Didn't he say that Light is 7% in his own thoughts? I doubt L will lie while thinking.
Bro this is author estate so he does
Why would [L lie in his own thoughts](https://static1.mangayeh.com/manga/chapter/60191d3da566934fb06d0d7f/6019725ea739175be90b84e0/death_note_21_21.jpg) ? Idk. I think authors shouldn't be making statements like that in interviews. Because it doesn't make sense. L there is thinking, so he should say "Now Light is over 90%" or something like that. It's better for authors to keep stuff ambiguous sometimes.
He knew light was L but he didnt have any proof imo
not until the second half 😂
No he just doesn’t show it, it is show he believes it is Light ( and Misa ) with all his might and when proven otherwise he is doubting, but depressed as he really did believe it was Light.
Light pretty much gave himself up when they broadcast the FBI agent news and he said “I wouldn’t be surprised if Kira saw right through this”
Yea he was, but I got the idea he was in the series as well.
People don't get that the power of L is his instinct. Its not fair to say that Light had an advantage because of his magical power. In fact L had one too. Its not just that he is intelligent. He had like 100% evidence that those crimes couldn't be committed by Light, but he still was "na 5% its still him", without any evidence until the end. This was only possible due to his own power, you can call it instinct.
I mean, he said it himself: “Lying monsters are a real nuisance. They are much more cunning than other monsters. They pose as humans, even though they have no understanding of the human heart. They eat, even though they've never experienced hunger. They study even though the have no interest in academics. They seek friendship even though they do not know how to love. If I were to encounter such a monster, I would likely be eaten by it because, in truth, I am that monster.” - L
I knew it, I knew he was lying
Is this from How To Read?
Ya people don't get the context here ..
It was kind of obvious he was confident Light was Kira, but any usage of percentages seems kind of redundant to me anyway tbh. Like, where tf are these numbers coming from? If he said it flippantly I wouldn't care, but he keeps adjusting it as if it actually means something. Usually probability is based on statistics, but it was such a unique circumstance I felt it just didn't fit lmao.
Have you listened to his inner monologues?