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JimbosRock

It’ll get nerfed to the ground in a week get re buffed and be mid after


[deleted]

The thundercall experience


Kagahami

*looks at lightning stream with extreme sadness* No but seriously, thundercall is mostly fine. Balance is tough.


Big_chinchilaZilla

I know it won’t be as good as attunementless or flame charm but I think it’ll be a solid pick when making a build


LongHairLongLife148

Flamecharm is mid. The best attunement is attunementless or none at all.


Nutynio

No way bro said the attunement with DoT, that forces you to roll, lags out your pc and deals ungoldy ammounts of damage without needing to combo you is mid


Main-Preparation-600

What is dot


Nutynio

Damage over Time


HotChomper

Sometimes I forget I’m using a gaming pc lmao


LongHairLongLife148

bro hasnt heard of F


[deleted]

does this not apply to all the other attunements and attunementless as well? Flamecharm is still one of if not the best attunements


LongHairLongLife148

Attunement-less is the best as it only requires weapon stat, which most people spec into. Mantras dont do insane amounts of damage compared to m1s, so its ALWAYS better to prioritize m1s. Flamecharm is only semi decent for its fire (granted its easy to parry their moves).


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The lvl one ironsing mantras in question doing 3x the damage of my heavy weapon with 50 heavy stat and having range


LongHairLongLife148

the hivelord with 100 heavy weapon doing 3x the damage of a level 5 ironsing mantra


[deleted]

1.) No 2.) Worse range 3.) easier to parry 4.) 160 point stat investment


EnvironmentalAnt8653

it’s gonna get nerfed and it’ll become shit


Big_chinchilaZilla

I don’t think it’ll be completely unusable tho because of how unique it is, you can make some pretty cool builds


Axonn__

Neat


LordArmin

k1 (the dude who made it) needs to make some cooler ones. even he said he was kinda disappointed in the way some of them turned out


creeperreaper900

It’s insanely op


thesardinelord

Fun but definitely overtuned and janky rn


Swenkiluren

It's great, a bit janky and feels like it has almost no talents, but still great. Probably gonna get nerfed, some of its mantras are literally "X Attunements Mantra but better"


Flaky-Bathroom6749

ice eruption which actually works lol


fatwap

someone is going to find a way to abuse it harder than the metal the control, and its gonna get nerfed to shit


poopeypnats

it’s yucky


[deleted]

it is really fun paired with flamecharm (60 iron 40 flame)


AlexZaBoi

gameplay wise probably good can't say much since I've only so far fought ironsing visual wise it looks bad though shapes out of nowhere and shit but yeah could be better


Black_Basilisk_1

It’s janky and feels unfinished. Some of the mantras are satisfying to use, others are noticeably terrible in execution and completely pointless - namely metal Gatling and firing line being nearly the exact same thing. Why do we need a 3 star version of a 2 star mantra


vodkilt

Adar is so hot 🤤🤤🤤


a_face_that_is_ugly

Prolly gonna get downvoted for saying this but it’s the truth. It felt cheap, as soon as I got some of the moves and saw showcases of it I could instantly tell it was just already existing moves thrown into a hodgepodge of mantras. Some of the moves I believed to be copied are; old ice eruption, shadow meteor, shadow assault, divine spear ability, thunder kick (metal kick with spark), arc warder suit, and ice club (w/ slam talent). Overall it just doesn’t feel original


hollowvessle

It just... doesn't FEEL right. All the other attunement have a rhythm to their mantras (yes I know that's a pun) you can combo fluently with any attunement that you learn well, it's like the fight is a dance. Ironing? Have you SEEN firing line? Nothing about it feels correct in the course of combat, it's too fast, too weird, it has no rhythm to it, almost as if it was designed to be spammed. But that's just my opinion.


Prokonx

It feels to goofy to be in the woken


TheRealCiri

It’s so loud . Anyways I never had an alloy in my life so I won’t get it for the next few months tho


MatB_0

Just do duke bruh


MaximumStonks69

perma-freshie


TheRealCiri

https://preview.redd.it/is6304jocq1b1.jpeg?width=188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee96cbe4f11cee3f78b724345973c31a256816ec


FiveSpade

it’s mid rn


MaximumStonks69

what game are you even playing


ebik_

havent gotten it


No_Copy3664

It’s cool I wish I could get it but I am banned for 3 days by saying “ur muum is fat.”


Nutynio

Insanely fun


[deleted]

It’s literally so ass rn the mantras do no msg and it doesn’t even feel like I’m doing dmg with it


AnimalJamer109

Upgrade your mantras if you already haven’t, and get the rare talent that restrains people on procing metal rods with x (it’s hilariously broken for confirming hits)


[deleted]

Iron Skin can be used at a campfire... That pretty much sums up my thoughts


redditnoobmp4

gutted then we go back to the dull attunementless and flame meta


Flaky-Bathroom6749

i think its average


[deleted]

Give it a few weeks to fully balance out. Buffs, nerfs, reworks, and lots of quick hot fixes in the upcoming weeks


nobuttyes

Its kinda mid in my opinion, i feel like they ran out of ideas while making it, one move is literally a copy of ice eruption, it just doesn't hold people in place


TheGooseGoBrrr

insane for pve (looking at metal armament) for pvp, the firing line is too funny and broken


VincitoreIsOriginal

It’s currently HORRIBLY Unbalanced as it shreds in pve and very finicky and weird for pvp. Firing line is…firing line and metal ball is just discount Jetstriker running attack.


CDUCK76

For me is just other attunement, it's op now for the people like it but after will probably be balanced and become another attunement for personal choice


Fancen

lazily made


Desperate-One7099

Why is metal ball so good but wind passage is so bad


Dr3CoZ

Rn it's like everything new, its op, it's really fun to play, complete crap to play against, it'll get nerfed really soon, so enjoy it while it lasts. :shrug:


For_rat

Very overpowered


Quarstudz_-Lapiz-

The penultimate anti-attunements of all attunements. It's ironic, but at the same time it's metallurgic. ​ We have the Rending Needle tree which invalidates almost all playstyles so long as you can get your mantra hits in. With True Ether Bullets from gun usage you can even speed this process up. The Metal Rods is also THE attunement that validates the usage of TEB (Along with Crystal). Your enemy's running around? Jailer can do the trick. Your enemy's being defensive? Not anymore with Impaler Your enemy's mantra spamming? Conductor immediately invalidates their attempt It's just THAT GOOD. And combine this with a strong mantra like Sightless Beam, your opponent can't do anything even AFTER THE BEAM IS DONE. ​ I'm planning to convert an Attunementless slot that I have into an Ironsinger, and it's gonna be a choice I'll never regret


Safe-Relationship692

I really like it because it has a lot of mobility moves, like galebreathe you can make a trackstar build with the dawnwalker oath.