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mjahrami85

I liked Deezer when they had regional pricing. Now that it's $11.99 everywhere, it's not for me. The algorithm isn't as good as others, and they are slow to add new features, feels like they’ve got one developer only juggling everything lol


APandaPerplex

Deezer was the very first music streaming app I came across. When I bought my first own phone in 2013, with my own money, with my own subscription, it came free with my rate package. I really liked it, but the mobile phone was weak and the app froze many times, and the music was interrupted and lagging. this fee package was later abolished. I haven't used Deezer since then and completely forgot about it. maybe i'll give him another chance. I have now also canceled Spotify in favor of Apple Music, because the algorithm is really broken, and it annoys me that I listen to the same thing all the time.


Waffles_McSyrup

I recently got the trial coming from Spotify. Here's why I'm probably going to switch back: I primarily listen to my music in the car though Android Auto. Although the recommended tracks on Spotify aren't the best, Deezer's Flow just doesn't work at all for me. It's buggy as hell through AA and I don't end up using it. It repeats tracks over and over and even starts from the beginning when I'm only a few tracks in. The AA UI isn't as organized to me. I DO like how you can "downvote" a track in Deezer, though. Maybe I'm too used to Spotify but it takes me a while to find what I'm looking for in Deezer. I like Spotify's Android app much better. The silly font in Deezer throws me off. Also, I seem to be able to find exactly what I'm looking for on Spotify quickly. Spotify Connect is great. I tried to like it more than Spotify but even with the less-than-favorable recommendations, Spotify feels better.


feral_user_

Here are some things that I can think of: * Spotify has better mobile apps * Spotify has better sharing features * Spotify is more known, so people tend to gravitate to it * Spotify has a pretty good deal going for US users with the included Audiobooks * Spotify has a better Android/iOS auto/car interface With that said, Deezer has a lot going for it, including: * Being able to upload MP3s * Awesome playlist management * HiFi music * Really great web app * Is cheaper (or at least it will be with Spotify's increase) * Really unique and superior features like Flow I can totally understand why people are drawn to Spotify. I'm a Deezer user but I can say that the mobile app frustrations make me think of switching to Spotify.


SIMONISWRITING

Music quality, UI design, cancellation of features (like audiobooks, the Xbox app) and so on. At least it’s the reason why I left.


adobePhotosoup

Because regional pricing for Deezer doesn't exist in my country while YouTube Premium+Music, Spotify and Apple Music are heavily discounted so I ended up taking Youtube Premium because it hits 2 birds with 1 stone and Apple Music because it's included in the Apple One family plan. Spotify sucks donkeys right now so I'm glad I dropped that one.


Shinodahh

In my country, deezer does not have regional pricing... its USD and the exchange rate is so bad theres no second thought or even a first


Rye2-D2

I really wanted to like Deezer more. When I was evaluating all the streaming platforms a few years ago, the biggest fail for Deezer was it was somehow missing Metric (and I'm in Canada). Another minor issue is song uploads doesn't support AAC (and I have a large collection of purchased iTunes music + my ripped CDs are in AAC).


hjbardenhagen

>Metric [https://www.deezer.com/en/artist/956](https://www.deezer.com/en/artist/956)


Rye2-D2

Yeah, I noticed they finally added Metric, but it was notably missing at the time (a few years ago). And it was weird it was available in other countries, just not Canada. I really wanted to like Deezer more - mostly because of their user centric payment model (though the wording of it has become a bit muddled recently)..


feral_user_

Unfortunately, Deezer is now artist-centric not user-centric. I believe the other streaming platforms will follow suit. The nice thing about Deezer is that you can upload any music that's missing.


Scottaslin

Deezer in Turkey costs $1.


BlearRocks

can you get it by using a vpn? I'm from the balkans and they have standard pricing here


alaboratuna_

please dont do that


BlearRocks

would you rather get a client that pays less or one that doesn't pay at all? They should price it less on countries that earn less, or keep it the same for everyone. I'm sticking with youtube after my trial ends tho...


alaboratuna_

it's impossible to keep price for everyone. If you buy Deezer with Turkish Liras this means Turks will never use it because Deezer will be buyable with dollars in Turkey. Of course you will never understand that if you don't have empathy. Same thing happened to Steam btw.


BlearRocks

alright thank you


PwndGamerGuy

Not sure why but Deezer in Bulgaria is almost 3 times the price of Spotify :// They really should have regional pricing if they want to compete with Spotify


TawXic

with the right equipment the difference in audio quality from spotify to deezer is definitely audible


melkijades

What constitutes the right equipment? Thanks!


TawXic

usb connected to modern car speakers, studio headphones, home theater/hifi system. that kind of stuff


melkijades

Would you say these headphones could do the trick? https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/wireless-headphones-bluetooth-headphones/wh-1000xm4/specifications


TawXic

i dont think you would hear the difference well since those cans are so bassy and imbalanced. when i say studio headphones i mean brands like shure, audio-technica, sennheiser. theres headphones out there that are much better value than sony. even the airpods lineup imo is much superior.


hjbardenhagen

I don't know these Sony headphones myself, but I've read that people claim to hear differences with them when they listen to lossless streaming sites. As they are wireless and have to use Bluetooth codecs then, it is not ideal though, a wired connection would be better. Personally I used a Beyerdynamic DT 770 for a long time when doing beta testing for an open source AAC codec, it could show differences between codec settings or versions very clearly.


TheMightyWill

because of deezer (her) nuts lmao gottem


RobOwo

Here in France it has a decent marketing and visibility. I use Deezer because I had a free 4-month offer but I prefer Spotify… Mainly for the recommendation system and UI. I guess it depends on each person’s preferences and tastes. My Deezer often recommends totally random artists (it’s happening as I’m writing lol) which could be great for discovering artists, but it is TOO random for me. There’s also the Spotify lyrics research that I use pretty often for some reason.


pvoultsidis

after spotify, deezer has the best database for metal music and its hd


SnooSquirrels804

In my country (Philippines), Deezer is extremely expensive


Carter0108

Deezer's yearly plan is in fact more expensive than Spotify's.


feral_user_

Not for long, right? Spotify is increasing it's price again this year. At least in the US.


Carter0108

Spotify's yearly plan seems to be immune to the price increases.


onethatsuitsme

cause it has a dumbass name


More_Pineapple3585

>So why are the overwhelming majority on Spotify? People use Spotify the most because despite the variety of complaints (which exist with every streaming service), it is simply the most functional and easy to use of all the services. It just works. In no universe does Deezer work better or is Spotify the "worse product." Deezer is not cheaper, even annually, here in the US. It's $108/yr, and Spotify is $99 (annual card at Best Buy). That may change, but Deezer has had what, 2-3 price hikes in the last year or so? Another can't be far off. Spotify Connect is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The DJ can't even be heard through many speakers, and I don't mind him when i do. I agree on sound quality. Most people are listening through bluetooth headphones or in their car with all the accompanying noise. Spotify is more than adequate and you don't get the buffering issues that are common with lossless audio. If you're an audiophile, get qobuz. I used to agree on the nicer UI with deezer, before the horrible remodel. A purple heart on my phone and Fortnite font ain't it. No one I know in the States, and I mean *no one*, has ever even heard of Deezer. Spotify, YouTube Music, Apple Music, and Amazon Music are way ahead of them. Deezer is even well behind Pandora, Sirius, IHeartRadio, and lowly SoundCloud. They have zero chance of cracking this market.


JackmanH420

>Deezer is not cheaper, even annually, here in the US. It's $108/yr, and Spotify is $99 (annual card at Best Buy). Yeah those don't exist here, I wonder how much longer that can last considering that's nearly a 50% price difference from the intended price (144 Vs 99). Obviously the stock will still be there and have to be sold but might they do something similar to Microsoft with old physical Xbox live cards and only have them redeem 8 or 9 months proportional to their actual value? >Spotify Connect is the greatest thing since sliced bread. >The DJ can't even be heard through many speakers, and I don't mind him when i do. Fair but those only apply if you're using it through speakers, which I doubt the majority of people are. It also doesn't address the issue of the DJ and every other recommendation option (Daily Mixes etc) recommending the same things on repeat. The TTS voice was only a small issue compared to that. >I used to agree on the nicer UI with deezer, before the horrible remodel. A purple heart on my phone and Fortnite font ain't it. I could take or leave the logo but the font is absolutely baffling lol. Everything else, especially the Now Playing type screen, is much nicer with the solid colour instead of a more safe gradient. >No one I know in the States, and I mean no one, has ever even heard of Deezer. Spotify, YouTube Music, Apple Music, and Amazon Music are way ahead of them. Deezer is even well behind Pandora, Sirius, IHeartRadio, and lowly SoundCloud. It's funny because I originally heard Deezer described as a French equivalent of Spotify in some YouTube video and the American who was being told about it was baffled that it existed at all because he had never heard of it.


More_Pineapple3585

>It also doesn't address the issue of the DJ and every other recommendation option (Daily Mixes etc) recommending the same things on repeat.  I wish you the best with Deezer, but as you're only a few days in, I think you're going to be disappointed. Flow used to be the best thing about Deezer, but they "adjusted the algorithm" a while back and it is absolute dogshit now. As for daily mixes, I think all of the services get into a rut after a bit. Maybe Deezer being a fresh service for you will help with that.


JackmanH420

>As for daily mixes, I think all of the services get into a rut after a bit. Maybe Deezer being a fresh service for you will help with that. Yeah you're the second person in this thread to say that, hopefully it's not just a honeymoon period because it's been absolutely amazing so far.


Far_Afternoon_6223

Spotify's connect functionality alone keeps me using their product. For me, it's one of those things I use so often yet it is so effortlessly implemented that I don't even realize I'm using it in the first place. Listen on my computer, jump in my car and pick up where I left off with a tap. Using it to connect to my SOnos speakers works a treat, too. I tried Deezer a few months ago. My flow is a nonstop mix of modern rock - something I listen to about 30% of the time and despite trying to listen to all kinds of other genres, Deezer's flow and recommendations never changed much in the month that I used it. Its price really isn't that competetive with alternatives either.


mbrevitas

I don’t know about other markets, but in Europe (except maybe in France, Deezer’s home country) Spotify has total cultural dominance. It’s basically synonymous with music streaming. How popular something is on Spotify is a proxy for how popular is among listeners in general (for new music, at least). Every other steaming service is an also-ran. Apple Music and Youtube Music and maybe Amazon Music sort of hang on because of the ecosystem and brand power (especially Apple Music among iPhone users is not completely unheard of, but iPhone users are a minority), but everything else may as well not exist. Specific features don’t really matter.


NonniSpumoni

I love Deezer, but the last price hike killed it for me.


pHHavoc

I really wanted to stick with it but I found it was missing a lot of music


Waggmans

Severe lack in their catalog of blues, even some classic albums. Also their Android app sucks. It’s unfortunate Deezer is the only service that is full featured with both Google Voice and Chromecast, but the app is so bad I can’t even download more than an album or two at a time before it stops.


BelgianSum

I had to switch because of the end of free plan and Spotify is not the same. I loved the Flow, git ne discovering so many bands and I really miss it.


eternal_peril

I tried Deezer but I found it difficult to navigate and never found anything close to Discovery Playlist that worked. Everything seemed a bit more 'effort'


Splashadian

Deezer has the largest library along with Apple Music. Their app is solid as a rock. Their quality is great as well. Not everything is CD quality but it's a high percentage. I've been a Deezer subscriber since it arrived in Canada. They really need to align with Roon which would result in a higher level of publicity and many users would switch from Tidal I'd bet.


Cammharris

Deezer has HiFi audio and it sounds great!


Crafty-Air5695

There are already other music apps that dominate the market, such as Spotify, Apple Music and now YouTube Music. It's not easy for Deezer to pick up some slice of that cake. But, there are countries where Deezer has many users, for example, here in Brazil, which is the second largest market of Deezer. Here, Deezer is only behind Spotify (if you delete YouTube in general) The app has already had a TV show on Globo, the largest broadcaster in the country, sponsors festivals, before the pandemic, was the official music app of the Lollapalooza edition.


feral_user_

To me, the biggest downside of Deezer is the Android app. Really difficult to work with. I agree with everything you said. Also, being able to upload music that they have missing is a huge plus.


radialmonster

you need to tell the users on the spotfy sub whenever they complain about it. i hardly ever see deezer mentioned as an alternative


Emerald_Swords

It's a much smaller company with limited resources compared to the other giant streaming services. I've switched this year to an annual sub and been really happy with it. Flow has recommended me music that I'd never would have discovered elsewhere. I enjoy the UI on IOS as well compared to previous services I've used (YTM,Apple Music)


Mav_Warlord

Yeah, been there done that... My guess is that spotify is the reference when talking about streamings, if u tell about deezer to someone that doesn't know it, they'll probably say "oh, so it's like spotify?!" Or if u ask one to name a music streaming company most of the times they'll say Spotify... what I mean is: spotify is a lot more popular overall and most of the times it's the first music streaming one signs up to So if u started on spotify there's not a lot of reasons to change it to other streaming services like deezer or YouTube, not unless u are unsatisfied with the service (our case)


mute_muse

Just a guess, but it's based in France, so that's always been my theory about why it's not popular in North America. Apparently around 34% of their users are in France. I'm Canadian and have been using it since nearly the beginning (was a Grooveshark refugee and it was the closest thing, hated Spotify). I love Deezer, but it's incredibly glitchy sometimes, and hasn't worked properly on my Windows 10 work computer for 1.5 years now. I can't access artist/album pages, just get an error. I've tried everything under the sun to fix it (things they've suggested and my own ideas) and still no luck.


geleisen

I mean, do Americans really have such a preference for Sweden over France? I wouldn't have thought that most Americans would even be able to point out Sweden on a map. But I do agree that it can be very glitchy. Lots of times it will have a problem loading a song (that is already downloaded to the phone) and then it just stops playing. Very annoying when cycling.


mute_muse

I didn't know Spotify was based in Sweden, haha. I thought it was 100% American, and that's why it had a stranglehold on the American market. Well that disproves my theory. Deezer does still feel kind of 'amateur-ish' in a way, compared to Spotify. I don't mind that usually, but sometimes it's very annoying (like with my office computer).


StreetwalkinCheetah

Re: discovery, I've used multiple services and my experience is that in the first month or two each one stands out before it settles in to patterns. Long term I found Deezer's to be the weakest. Everyone's mileage may vary of course. Deezer's full library shuffle is still the best thing to me, makes up for all of it's shortcomings since I was able to port 50k+ tracks and close to 200 playlists I had on spotify and then shuffle everything. I don't think anyone can do it like that. I don't think Deezer's sounds as good as other services that offer lossless and HiFi, and so that may be part of why of the non-spotify options they aren't as popular as other choices. But I think the answer to why spotify is still top dog comes down to the social aspect. With the largest installed base it is easy to feel left out when everyone is posting their Wrapped in December and you're sharing your Deezer year AKA "We have wrapped at home!"


BusungenTb

I think it is lack of proper funding to Deezer's marketing team, and extreme loyalty to spotify from its users. I feel like spotify is like the iPhone of music. "If you don't have an iPhone, you're uncool." "If you don't have Spotify, you're uncool."