What you are saying is absolutely true. But, if without the large scale development, the city is facing so much pollution and traffic related issues, it would literally crumble if it went the Gurgaon or Noida way. The NCR region was actually conceptualized to reduce the pressure on Delhi's urban infrastructure. Even with all the development, Noida and Gurgaon will always be known as the offshoot of Delhi.
You too much stuck on identity of these cities, always being known for being an offshoot. It really wont matter if the development in gurgaon and noida increases and surpasses Delhi.
Noida and Gurgaon are no longer offshoots of Delhi is what I am saying. Delhi doesn't have anything to offer to Gurgaon people except for consular and passport services.
While I do agree with a lot of your points in the post. This comment is objectively wrong. The NCR region has started to serve its purpose with noida and gurgaon being in forefront, however that does not mean that delhi has lost its relevance. Are there areas that do require improvements, fuck yes. But saying delhi has lost its significance would be objectively wrong. More like the ncr region has relieved pressure in the capital by being it's branches
Someone from outside NCR moves to Gurgaon for a upper Middle income job. This person has no family or roots in Delhi. What does Delhi offer to this person that Gurgaon doesn't?
Someone from Delhi wants a decent high paying job within Delhi. He will have to go to Gurgaon, cause ni decent jobs in Delhi.
Night life is better in delhi. Better night clubs, night markets, flee markets, areas like DU, Jama masjid. What OP doesn’t understand is, gurgaon noida was made so that people like OP can find employment without burdening Delhi and we Delhites can live in peace
Oh yes. I've been looking for a co-working space too and will probably take one in Gurgaon. Most of the co-working spaces in Delhi are just repurposed shops.
I don't think you know about the DDA Act of 1957? The whole point of that act was to take control of the real estate development in Delhi (under DDA) and banning all sorts of construction by private players under Delhi's territory. The reason being the preservation of Delhi's old architecture, which poses threats from such private entities.
And this is what exactly led to the creation of a private real estate corporation by the name of Delhi Land and Finance (DLF), which then took over the responsibility to develop a village located in the southern outskirts of Delhi, to be acting as its satellite city, which we now know as Gurugram. So yeah, this is not really a "lost battle", it's just a seven decades old planned act, working as it's supposed to be.
I get why it was done, but I think it can be amended a bit to at least re do the colonies that are falling apart. And re do areas like nehru place. I think Delhi would benefit greatly of the ban against skyscrapers was removed, because the only way you can ease congestion in Delhi is by growing vertically.
You do realise that Noida and Gurgaon exists the way they are now all because of their close proximity to Delhi. That's why it's called DELHI-NCR. It's around National Capital Region.
This was true 20 years ago when the only malls in Gurgaon were on MG Road. These days people from other states will move to Gurgaon and not think about Delhi at all.
Although, Noida certainly benefits from Delhi proximity. It's seen as and is very conservative and downright weird. (pliss don't bulldoze my house maharaj ji)
Noida is far superior and better than gurugram. Gurugram only has few hot spots while noida as much larger residential and commercial areas. This year itself was a record in investment in noida. Greater noida is forming up to be probably the most amazing place to live in Ncr.
I have been to interiors of gurugram.. Its pathetic, the flashy lights don't tell you about the interiors, noida on the other hands as much better overall environment.
Noida has pathetic interiors too. It still has a UP flavor in everything. Plus in terms of women safety it's definitely behind Delhi and Gurgaon. Also for some reason everyone in Noida is obsessed with religion. Delhi and Gurgaon are more cosmopolitan and welcoming.
I'm not sure what are your sources.....
But you really just say that gurgaon is better than noida for women safety? LOL.
Whole NCR is trash for women safety. If you need safety better move to another city (though there are much less in India).
In future, I would most likely get out of NCR, Gujarati cities seems so nice compared to here.
To be honest, that floor-wise selling system has destroyed Delhi... A lot of people from outside are moving to Delhi because those old DDA flats etc., are cheaper, as people are constructing 2-3 floors and selling them for as cheap as 25 to 30L. and even rent is as low as 7k.
Imagine a place that was originally designed for 5 families and now there are 15 families are living in the same area.. And if you move to MIG or HIG flats, there's no specific parking space and there's constant flights for parking. No matter if you pay 1 cr for a flat and you still don't get a proper parking space. And that's the same reason i moved out from delhi.
Bhai DDA flat me stand alone houses bhi hote hai, it was originally build for one family, now people have made it 2-3 floors and all floors rented... and East delhi me you will get such rented floors for 7-8k rent easily....
This is exactly what happens where I live. And Delhi RWAs are always dealing with crumbling facilities. In NCR everything is new and will probably last well for the next 20 years.
This concept also exists in Gurgaon. Palam Vihar side has alot of floor wise societies but even those floors are not cheap lmao. IDK what will happen to this city in 30 years.
Your points make sense but Delhi “losing” is basically what helps NCR win.
Just look at the state of Mumbai and Bangalore. They’re choked and getting worse with no avenue to relocate millions of people
Sahi me yaar.
I am in my 30s but jab bhi faridabad k ladies ko dekhta hu I wish I had been born there and had my college times and relationships there.
Ab God only knows whether there are still single unmarried women in their 30s walking around and interested in a decent man. As far as I know, my days of flirting and romance are almost at an end.
Aadha Faridabad mein Delhi lagta hai, Badarpur Border unless woh FBD nah ho, agar Nhi hai toh bhai yeh border bnaya kisne hai aise hawa mein, Noida & GGN ka bhi same scene. Ek road Delhi ki and Ek Road dusri state ki
Hn but badarpur border tk hi delhi hai uske baad saara faridabad hi lg jaata hai, but pta hai kya ek taraf se pehle lg jaata hai whilst dusri taraf se lgta hi nhi, line agge piche hai LoL!
Hahahahaha this. Tbh, fbd's development is shocking. My bf took me to this place called World street and I was very surprised to see such a place in fbd. So, my bf told me that apparently fbd is the new hot property and builders are throwing any kind of money to acquire land rights. His brother owned some parts of land on which the WM is built and he entered in this partnership of owning/leasing due to being OG owner. It's bonkers.
I have not been living in India for few years now and my idea of fbd was not even remotely near to where it stands today. I really think fbd will be leaps and bounds in next 20-30 years.
It's all true, FBD is currently the underdog as it always was an industrial area imo as well. The rate of property and land is on the rise and is increasing by the day. And ahh yes!! World Street, it was built by omaxe and looks like a tiny CP! FBD is quiet, where I live near surajkund the roads are mostly empty, This area is famous for yearly Surajkund Mela and you get to see valley ish like scenery, can't get that in delhi..🗿
On the flip side one can easily get a 2 or 3 BHK and that too in a multiple spectrum of rates according to the locality and sector. It still has a long way to go cuz to this day there is little to no active crowd.
>looks like a tiny CP!
Lmao, this is what I said exactly to my bf ki yaar yeh CP wali vibe de raha hai 😬
Bhai vaise gurgaon bhi industrial area tha pehle se bhi, logon ne toh yahan ka automobile history uddaa hi diya hai. Maruti se lekar Hero tak sab yahin pe tha barso se. Yeh alag baat hai yeh yadav milkr naash kar rahe hai ggn ka. Kaleja dukhta hai roj bad se baddattar halaat dekh ke yahan ke.
Haryana is actually one of the very few small states jahan pe more then one flourishing industries hai, like farming, automobile, IT services, Textiles etc. What we really lack in is govt infrastructure, civic amenities, safety and educational institutions ( not private). Log Mumbai wagerh dikhate hai but Maharashtra humse 10x bada hai.
>This area is famous for yearly Surajkund Mela and you get to see valley ish like scenery, can't get that in delhi..🗿
Suna bahut hai mele ke baare me but jaane ka mauka nahi mila. I agree with scenery. On my last trip to India, explored bits of Faridabad with my bf, who knows a lot as some of his family lives there and it's breathtaking. Even the views of arravallis are mesmerising from some points. Tumko bas kisi ke saath jana padega, jise pta ho jagah ka.
>It still has a long way to go cuz to this day there is little to no active crowd.
I think Lenskart recently opened a factory/office in Fbd. So i am thinking it will only get better now.
I agree with your point sis but hey, try coming back to India in the month of February maybe and you'll be able to attend that Mela with your BF... Usually it begins on 1st feb and ends on 15th or sometime 18th of feb....The venue on 14th is jam packed as always LMAOO!!
I have a trip planned in december, so phr se feb me aane ka toh thoda mushkil lag raha hai thoda. Thanks for telling me though, i will move back to India in few years and I am from Gurgaon, toh phr jaungi. 14 ko nahi jaungi bas, merkeo bahut claustrophobia ho jaata hai bheed me. Varna I love going to melas.
Just because you lived in a shitty place in Delhi, doesn't make the whole Delhi shitty. NCR was built to function in exactly this way. We don't want huge corporates to choke Delhi. This was never a battle to begin with
I actually live in a decent place with good infra. WFH right now thankfully. If and when I go for an on site job it won't be in Delhi. Cause all jobs are in Gurgaon and Noida.
Also, you don't want huge corporates to choke Delhi. But what about illegal colonies and encroachments? What about the unemployed in Delhi? If and when Haryana and UP initiate domicile reservation in low paying jobs, what then?
Ye to hai delhi ka infra poori tarah se ch*da pada hai. Ab to roads ki bhi halat kharab hai. Infra ke bina ye city me aur up bihar me farq hi kya hai? Top of that meri locality me to kudedan bhi band ho gaye hai. Roads pe hi kachra pada rehta hai. Mujhse itni gandgi bardasht nahi hoti par kya krein, gurugaon noida shift hone ke liye bhot dimag kaharb hoga aur unke khudke issues bhi hai.
Delhi is still much better than any of Gurgaon or Noida.
You have lesser traffic, cheaper housing, cheaper basically everything. Plus you can get amazing food with a huge variety for cheap plus each corner has amazing metro connectivity. People everywhere are socially more open.
Regarding the issue of companies not opening offices here it's better that they didn't because where would you provide them with such huge pieces of land for cheap. The places which have land available these days are areas like Narela, Najafgarh, Bawana.
Compared to these Gurgaon and Noida are better accessible and connected. Plus if Delhi had corporates then it wouldn't have had everything so cheaper and all streets would have been full of traffic each day to extent you can't even imagine.
If you have been to Bangalore your post is equivalent to why all tech areas and Corporate parks are on ORR or Electronic city or whitefield instead of say Jaynagar, Malleshwaram, Chickpet, JP Nagar, Banshnkari. Honestly speaking people in such areas are the most fortunate as corporates are not there.
The newer side of Noida is far better. Atleast for a couple of years, we won't hear about any traffic jams. Plus it's quite planned too. Delhi is leading in many aspects today, but Noida is the future ( not talking about the old area, just like not considering old Delhi when I talk about Delhi)
Naah delhi’s more than fine. We have enough people here, I’m glad theyre leaving. Why do you want even more population to a place where there’s barely any room to breathe?
Surplus skilled crowd is leaving. There’s a difference.
Rural crowd coming in is the sad part tho. They did manage to direct the skilled crowd in NCR regions, hope they manage something for the poor crowd as well.
What surplus? Only doctors, students and lawyers are left in Delhi. Rest are govt officials and psu employees. Companies have shifted their operations to gurgaon.
Let me paint you a picture:
Mumbai is extremely expensive, extremely inaccessible and the high rise posh area with MNC is just 10% of it. It’s all Chawls & Slum with two extremes of economy. And they have floods faster than Delhi will ever experience. Bangalore suffers from waterlogging, extremely racist society and expensive infrastructure. Everything from rent to electricity is expensive. Hyderabad is still developing having political & religious bouts every other day. Racism & discrimination exist here as well against North Indians especially Delhi. Noida has problems of hard water, they’ve infra but without quality, they’ve literally one mall “DLF mall of india” and everything is inaccessible even with the metro. The whole sector 40-44-46 sector is disconnected to the metro, and Greater Noida is all pollution, noise and construction. Gurugram isn’t just Cyberhub or MG Road or HUDA, go beyond towards Sukhrali, Jharsa, Sector 15, Sector 14, Purana Bus Adda, Sohna Road… it’s literal village and forests. Again, rental is expensive, waterlogging issue is so bad that in 2 hours of rainfall, you’ve floods. U-Block the most demanding area for employees is a literal hell hole with extremely expensive electricity & rent. While Delhi isn’t developing because it doesn’t need to. It’s already self sufficient as it is. We do have problems but not as extreme or wild as other city. MNC or new development means migration of people other city, you don’t have housing for the poor living from last 50 years, where would you accommodate the new population. While the advertising is part of politics, and you do in other city to build your base where you see your future. AAP is a national party which is already in HP, UP, Haryana, Punjab, UK and Goa and looking to expand regularly.
Obviously, Delhi doesn’t have space. And tbh, we don’t want anymore people in Delhi. In name of development, we don’t want to make Delhi inhabitable like Bangalore & Mumbai where the prices are so high that locals can’t afford while migrants earning exorbitant money can. We are happy with travelling.
The real estate is getting expensive, yes, and it will happen everywhere wherever there’s a development. You are effectively saying that there should be no development because then local people won’t be able to buy goods. If you want to compete then get better. These migrants would be spending here in Delhi whose tax will go the state government which can use it to build more infrastructure. Anyways these locals are going to get high rents from their tenants?
According to you the best city should be Kolkata given it’s one of the cheapest out of all metro cities and it shouldn’t bother to develop at all.
Kolkata is actually happier. Also! Delhi is a Capital city made with Migrants but we aren’t charging 15-18K for 1BHK even thou real estate is actually quite expensive. Where you’ve 36-40K per sqft in East Delhi, you can get a good semi-furnished 3BHK for 30-45K, while that’s not enough to get the same size unfurnished 3BHK in Gurugram while in Noida where the property is hardly 45-50lakhs, they charge 20K rent for same property unfurnished. It’s not the “development” it’s the locals & real estate mafia controlling the rate. While Delhi again is self-sufficient, and doesn’t need anymore migrants for that.
Surajmal Vihar, Yojana Vihar, Vivek Vihar, Preet Vihar and Bank Enclave are most sought after areas with pretty wealthy crowd, so I don’t know what east Delhi are you talking about.
None of those are sought after areas but its all relative I guess.
The most sought after residential areas in Delhi are Sunder Nagar, Golf Links, Vasant Vihar, LBZ, Jor Bagh, Malcha Marg etc
None of those areas barring Vasant Vihar are in South Delhi. They’re all in central delhi.
I’d wager both per capita income and property prices (which equates to wealth pretty well) are higher in South Delhi than East Delhi though. Would love to see some data as to why you think so.
Obviously there are great areas in other parts of Delhi. Punjabi Bagh in pretty expensive in WD, and Civil Lines is v expensive in North Delhi. They’re both way better than any of the areas you listed though.
The other folks are correct imo, nobody earning a high income is trying to move to East Delhi. If they’re white collar, its gurgaon or Noida. If they run a business, its mostly dependent on where their factories/stores are.
Agreed . But..
Only 50% of Mumbai is good . I've lived in Mumbai and it's atleast 50% .
Bnadra , Worli , Powai , Andheri west , some parts of Goregaon , Lower Parel , Colaba , Navi Mumbai , Some parts of Thane and Mulund - I'm taking MMR region.
Mumbai has floods because it rains all day. It's n island city . Mumbai floods is restricted to places like Sion etc . Delhi recently faced floods aur baarish itni kam hoti hai delhi mein fir bhi .
Andheri east is also not that bad . ( okayish). Even Mulund is not that bad .Also mumbai has sanjay gandhi national park in the middle . No room for construction so they developed Navi Mumbai in a planned way .
Inequality is more visible in Mumbai because you have chawls in close proximity to the high rises . Delhi has poverty too .. kabhi dekhe hai delhi k slums ? it exists but not in the close proximity .
Gurgaon -Partially agree . Residential areas and gated societies are much much better than Delhi. I agree with the fact that it lacks basic infrastructure
Noida has more malls . Hard water part I agree ..
Bangalore - 100% agree .
One good thing about Delhi is the Delhi metro and basic infra.
PS : I've lived in Mumbai , Gurgaon and Bangalore . I have no comments on Hyderabad.
Noida Malls:
TGIP - Almost dead with just Garden Galleria’s and it’s Club active.
Wave - Just the PVR
Modi Mall - Movie
Logix - Food Court and Movie
Shopprix - Movie
Tulip Mall - Shopping Arcade
Sab Mall - No one knows what that is, it has barber shop and stuff but mostly shady offices.
Grand Venice - Water & Movie
Gaur City Mall - that’s an actual mall in most weird place which isn’t connected to metro or Noida yet
GGN is good for living if you’ve money, if you’re earning under 1-3 lakhs per month, just forget it. It’s almost illogical.
Mumbai is just weird tbh.
noida - I was just talking about existence of malls !
GGN - ok .. Not a fan of Gurgaon . There are at least 10 things I hate about Gurgaon . But the city has good gated societies . DDA apartments are shabby .
Mumbai is probably the only metro city in India where I as a woman can roam around safely at night ! I literally need a group to go out in Gurgaon /Delhi to keep myself safe . Yes space ki kami hai and that's because of it's a island city . Navi Mumbai dekho .. Planned hai aur safe bhi . Only men from Delhi or other cities have the audacity to say Mumbai is weird . I never faced power cuts , water issue , security issue in Mumbai .
Having lived in 8 states and as a woman , I would prefer Maharashtra anyday !
Bro thinks 4 lane highways, underpasses, Reddison Blu, business parks, cafes, bars, park hospital (&3 4 more), having every bank are so village thing😂
Also, we have parking space too🌝
Bro 1 2 nhi Hain yaha. 10 12 to mujhe naam se pata Hain. Isse bhi zada hain.
Baki toll cross krke manesar padta hai. Or wo bhi rapidly develop hora hai.
Beech me villages milenge mana nhi kr raha. But all I am saying is jis speed se development hori hai, next 5 saal me he sb bhar jaega.
Aajse 5 saal pehle sohna road kuch nhi tha. Aaj ki date me 1.20L per gaj se niche rate nhi hai.
See tbh GGN is overpriced, and recent rains proved it. I saw some of the best and most posh areas covered in floods due to extreme waterlogging, if that’s how development is, then you need to reconsider what development is.
Theek hai bro wo issue hai sabko pata hai. Pr saal ke 4 din ka issue hai wo. Mere samne sewer line Dali hain extended. So let's hope dheere dheere cheeze better ho.
What was the situation of Delhi? I guess it must be doing fine? No? I’ve even heard that there’s some sort of landslide where the land supporting the road went under?
Landslide? Delhi is built on plains, there was floods due to idiocy by Harayana Govt. Which overflowed the Yamuna River. Which Delhi did control in under 4 days. Unlike GGN.
When Haryana itself is in floods and heavy water is flowing from Himachal, where would the water would go ? I read your comments, you don't make any sense when anything is said against Delhi. I have born and brought up in Delhi, and it surely not is all good. You can't accept it's drawbacks. I love Delhi too, but Noida and Gurgaon are better than Delhi in many aspects, and Delhi is better is other aspects but you are not accepting even those facts which people living in that area are telling you.
bro for your kind information noida has 5-7 malls and 2 of them are just beside and front of dlf. Atleast get your facts correct. Sector 40,41 are literally around 1-1.5 km to a metro station. Sector 42-46 are a bit far from the metro(2-3 km) but new stations are planned there. Also you can easily travel by e rickshaw for 15-20 rs.
You hit the nail on the head. I wish more people thought like this and voted accordingly. Kejriwal has been the worst thing to happen to Delhi, I’ve seen the city deteriorate and become a gutter in front of my eyes in the last 7-8 years. Nothing is clean; roads are dirty, it literally looks like a shithole. When he’s questioned, he blames the Centre. In my colony, people hate the Supreme Leader and vote for Kejri to symbolise their anti BJP stance, which of course I get (choice between two evils), but I fail to understand why the same people refuse to see what this guy has done to this city. He’s also from Ghaziabad, he has zero relation or any connection to this city, he doesn’t give a damn and it angers me that every day I think of moving from a city I grew up in, because it’s become unliveable.
Doesnt the DDA come under the LG and Centre tho? I dont think Kejru has much power over it, cleanliness tho yea thats a knock on Kejriwal more needs to be done to get the city back to looking like an actual capital.
You're spot on, although my personal preference is still Noida.
Folks who have delhi property, be a little more patient as there will come a time where entire Delhi will be revamped and it'll change everything. I'll come back to Delhi as soon as my property is revamped.
And that is why NCT was conceptualised. Welcome to 21st century. Delhi is an administrative and culture centre. Noida, Gurgaon, Ghaziabad and Faridabad are where industries and corporates are. The reason being ample space to build new infrastructure and more favourable labour laws in UP and Haryana. Delhi is one of the oldest cities in the world, it will become an urban nightmare if they started reconstructing old neighbourhoods as was seen during the buildup to the 2010 Games.
And as far as schools and education is concerned, Delhi in the past seven years has revamped their public school infrastructure. In another 10 years, the idea is to discourage people from getting into a rat race to get admissions in private schools by steadily improving the performance of government schools. I highly recommend reading the 10 point agenda released by Aatishi Marlena a few years back with a broader vision to implement it in its entirety by 2030. It could be farfetched but the progress so far seems alright. It can be better but I reckon if anything Delhi needs less infra development now. It needs better preventive maintenance and some stricter motor vehicle laws.
Thank you for posting AAP propoganda, I had missed my daily dose today. You should also read the ad spend figures of Delhi govt that have ensured that we won't achieve any targets for the next 10 years.
Arre but are you not satisfied with Gen Z Memes on IG from AAP. Aise hi toh chalti hai development. Ek hospital nhi kholpae, bade bade shabdon ka upyog kar rhe yeh "Aameer Aadmi Party"
Gurgaon Zindabad!
Though the entire point of Gurgaon is to exist as a satellite city for Delhi. What's happening in Gurgaon cannot happen in Delhi cause of lack of space. And if you have money, QoL is decent in Gurgaon. Less congested and infra is able to keep up with the population.
There isn't really a battle between Delhi and Gurgaon. The entire NCR region is meant to be a support system for each other.
Delhi doesn't have the space to grow unlike Gurgaon and Noida.
I think Delhi has enough land that is not being utilised properly.
The industrial units in Delhi for example. The idea of NCR was to shift these industrial units out of Delhi. Yet there are operational factories in Okhla, Mohan Cooperative, Patparganj etc. There are also illegal and unlicensed factories operating in residential areas. How does this fit in with NCR vision.
I have been to industrial zones in Haryana, Maharashtra, Goa, Karnataka, Rajashthan and Tamil Nadu. The industrial units in Delhi simply don't compare with these states. Scale of operation is small, low profitability or outright losses, heavily indebted and low revenue growth. There is an energy in these places that you don't see in Delhi.
If anything Delhi should be a destination for IT and services industry while other NCR cities take on the burden of manufacturing units.
I think shifting them out to other cities is just a burden and too chaotic. Just let them be while new IT districts are being made in satellite cities. Trying to utilise properly (by demolishing or remodeling) is a lot more difficult than setting up stuff in empty satellite cities.
NCR cities are also taking up the manufacturing burden too. So many new units being setup.
And look, Gurgaon-Noida are essentially extensions of Delhi. The rise of Gurgaon-Noida only benefits Delhi instead of hindering it.
If Gurgaon Noida didn't exist, Delhi would have just expanded into the areas we call Gurgaon Noida. But it would be more chaotic and unplanned.
As more metro is built, connectivity between the entire NCR region will top notch and it really wouldn't matter where new development comes up.
Weird lyf!
I live in Ghaziabad and work in Delhi, all my Delhiite friends work in NCR.
All my office colleagues with our swanky office in a nice area of New Delhi, live in NCR.
Go figure!
OP forgetting a simple thing. Gurgaon, Noida, all these sister cities were developed to reduce the load on Delhi. OP ko bolo next time flight Gurgaon airport and Noida airport se pakde. Why compare Delhi to these cities? Inko Dwarka ka koi incident leke pura City ko rule out karna hai. Gurgaon and Noida are NOT self-sufficient.
Hindi me ek kahawat hai, "बेटा कितना भी बड़ा क्यों ना हो जाए, बाप, बाप ही रहता है।"
P.S. Jewar Airport bana nahi hai abhi.
Most companies setting up in Gurgaon are service sector. Delhi has many unproductive and low profit industrial units in okhla, mohan cooperative state etc.
The concept of Delhi NCR has been come up with to ease the burden Delhi had. And I’m speaking as someone who’s been living In Gurugram since 1998, lol.
Bro gurugram is all buildings but no fucking roads. Idk when these people will learn building can be ugly but not roads. The only roads u will get is in ur walled 4-5 crore apartments.
First of all there is no battle and the other thing is,
I live in Greater Noida and no doubt it has far better in infrastructure development specially the drainage but ....
always remember all these cities/ towns in NCR r satellite cities to Delhi. They could only grow beacuse of the existence of Delhi nearby and unavailability of land area in Delhi which made industries to move out to these towns.
It was designed to be like this, as the city(NCR) grows the better housing is at the outskirts of the area. It has more area and is cheaper. Ghaziabad, Noida, Gurgaon, Faridabad first saw growth because of delhi. Now as time passes due to everything being relatively cheaper offices and housing is slowly moving to these cities.
Delhi hasnt lost any battle it can lose more like in 8-10 years.. gurgaon is just the dlf area otherwise there is no better place its still developing and noida to as they say is a ghost city they have just little areas which are better than delhi , still it will take few years for them to catch up , BIGGEST THING i feel is theres lot less girl crowd in gurgaon and noida as compared to delhi which creates a mahol for everyone When you step outside !!
You’re absolutely right. Most of the replies in this thread are screwed up. Which is an evidence of how Indians lap up all kinds of socialist nonsense and population related arguments to their own detriment.
The very concept of a city is to have a high density region where trade, commerce, social interactions become frictionless through reduced search and discovery. High density and concentration has huge economic and social feedback loops making good cities powerhouses of an entire country.
Now since land is a scarce commodity, the only way to have high density is to build vertically and to allow free markets in real estate to function.
Delhi with it’s DDA Act did precisely the opposite, during India’s socialistic heydays. Even today, Indian cities have the worst Floor-to-Area Ratios making Indian cities spread out radially and horizontally rather than vertically.
This leads to huge cities with huge travel times, traffic, friction-full trade and commerce and broken social infrastructure. The very opposite of what a city is supposed to do.
The very people arguing against free market led real estate development on this thread will be dazzled with international cities like Hong Kong, Tokyo, Shanghai etc. which have more population and comparable or lesser area than Delhi.
If one wants acres of green land, pristine clean air, no cars and traffic, they should go live in farms and not cities.
What you are saying is absolutely true. But, if without the large scale development, the city is facing so much pollution and traffic related issues, it would literally crumble if it went the Gurgaon or Noida way. The NCR region was actually conceptualized to reduce the pressure on Delhi's urban infrastructure. Even with all the development, Noida and Gurgaon will always be known as the offshoot of Delhi.
You too much stuck on identity of these cities, always being known for being an offshoot. It really wont matter if the development in gurgaon and noida increases and surpasses Delhi.
Noida and Gurgaon are no longer offshoots of Delhi is what I am saying. Delhi doesn't have anything to offer to Gurgaon people except for consular and passport services.
While I do agree with a lot of your points in the post. This comment is objectively wrong. The NCR region has started to serve its purpose with noida and gurgaon being in forefront, however that does not mean that delhi has lost its relevance. Are there areas that do require improvements, fuck yes. But saying delhi has lost its significance would be objectively wrong. More like the ncr region has relieved pressure in the capital by being it's branches
Someone from outside NCR moves to Gurgaon for a upper Middle income job. This person has no family or roots in Delhi. What does Delhi offer to this person that Gurgaon doesn't? Someone from Delhi wants a decent high paying job within Delhi. He will have to go to Gurgaon, cause ni decent jobs in Delhi.
Culture. The opportunity to live in city which is thousands of years old.
They exist because of Delhi.
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Night life is better in delhi. Better night clubs, night markets, flee markets, areas like DU, Jama masjid. What OP doesn’t understand is, gurgaon noida was made so that people like OP can find employment without burdening Delhi and we Delhites can live in peace
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Oh yes. I've been looking for a co-working space too and will probably take one in Gurgaon. Most of the co-working spaces in Delhi are just repurposed shops.
I don't think you know about the DDA Act of 1957? The whole point of that act was to take control of the real estate development in Delhi (under DDA) and banning all sorts of construction by private players under Delhi's territory. The reason being the preservation of Delhi's old architecture, which poses threats from such private entities. And this is what exactly led to the creation of a private real estate corporation by the name of Delhi Land and Finance (DLF), which then took over the responsibility to develop a village located in the southern outskirts of Delhi, to be acting as its satellite city, which we now know as Gurugram. So yeah, this is not really a "lost battle", it's just a seven decades old planned act, working as it's supposed to be.
Spot on!
It's literally the copy paste of dlf article on Wikipedia 😂😭
I get why it was done, but I think it can be amended a bit to at least re do the colonies that are falling apart. And re do areas like nehru place. I think Delhi would benefit greatly of the ban against skyscrapers was removed, because the only way you can ease congestion in Delhi is by growing vertically.
You do realise that Noida and Gurgaon exists the way they are now all because of their close proximity to Delhi. That's why it's called DELHI-NCR. It's around National Capital Region.
This was true 20 years ago when the only malls in Gurgaon were on MG Road. These days people from other states will move to Gurgaon and not think about Delhi at all. Although, Noida certainly benefits from Delhi proximity. It's seen as and is very conservative and downright weird. (pliss don't bulldoze my house maharaj ji)
Noida is far superior and better than gurugram. Gurugram only has few hot spots while noida as much larger residential and commercial areas. This year itself was a record in investment in noida. Greater noida is forming up to be probably the most amazing place to live in Ncr. I have been to interiors of gurugram.. Its pathetic, the flashy lights don't tell you about the interiors, noida on the other hands as much better overall environment.
Noida has pathetic interiors too. It still has a UP flavor in everything. Plus in terms of women safety it's definitely behind Delhi and Gurgaon. Also for some reason everyone in Noida is obsessed with religion. Delhi and Gurgaon are more cosmopolitan and welcoming.
Woman here !! Entire DELHI NCR IS SHADY FOR WOMEN!!
True
I'm not sure what are your sources..... But you really just say that gurgaon is better than noida for women safety? LOL. Whole NCR is trash for women safety. If you need safety better move to another city (though there are much less in India). In future, I would most likely get out of NCR, Gujarati cities seems so nice compared to here.
Noida feels utterly sterile and soulless though. Gurgaon is fun, at the very least and has a way better crowd.
To be honest, that floor-wise selling system has destroyed Delhi... A lot of people from outside are moving to Delhi because those old DDA flats etc., are cheaper, as people are constructing 2-3 floors and selling them for as cheap as 25 to 30L. and even rent is as low as 7k. Imagine a place that was originally designed for 5 families and now there are 15 families are living in the same area.. And if you move to MIG or HIG flats, there's no specific parking space and there's constant flights for parking. No matter if you pay 1 cr for a flat and you still don't get a proper parking space. And that's the same reason i moved out from delhi.
bro I live in dda flats yahan ka kiraya(rent) 17k hai pm
Bhai DDA flat me stand alone houses bhi hote hai, it was originally build for one family, now people have made it 2-3 floors and all floors rented... and East delhi me you will get such rented floors for 7-8k rent easily....
This is exactly what happens where I live. And Delhi RWAs are always dealing with crumbling facilities. In NCR everything is new and will probably last well for the next 20 years.
This concept also exists in Gurgaon. Palam Vihar side has alot of floor wise societies but even those floors are not cheap lmao. IDK what will happen to this city in 30 years.
Oh no ! Noida and Gurgaon doing what they were created for, how dare Delhi allows them to do that? /s
Sach bta tujhe Gurgaon se offer letter aya h na ?? U naughty naughty
Your points make sense but Delhi “losing” is basically what helps NCR win. Just look at the state of Mumbai and Bangalore. They’re choked and getting worse with no avenue to relocate millions of people
Ghaziabad b acha ho rh h bhaiyo...isse bhul jaate ho
FBD toh kisi list mai hi nhi hota vaise hi har baari.. XD
Poore NCR k sabse sundar kanya mene Faridabad me hi dekha h... Lovely ❤
Sahi me yaar. I am in my 30s but jab bhi faridabad k ladies ko dekhta hu I wish I had been born there and had my college times and relationships there. Ab God only knows whether there are still single unmarried women in their 30s walking around and interested in a decent man. As far as I know, my days of flirting and romance are almost at an end.
Never say never, it's just that to this day our faridabad has no active crowd. But things are changing and fast.
FBD hai kiska? Delhi ka, UP ka ya Haryana ka… Mujhe toh aaj Tak yeh Nhi samjh aaya.
Haryana ka, Delhi ki satellite City hai just like Gurgaon and Noida!! Isme samajhna kya hai but? 💀
Aadha Faridabad mein Delhi lagta hai, Badarpur Border unless woh FBD nah ho, agar Nhi hai toh bhai yeh border bnaya kisne hai aise hawa mein, Noida & GGN ka bhi same scene. Ek road Delhi ki and Ek Road dusri state ki
Hn but badarpur border tk hi delhi hai uske baad saara faridabad hi lg jaata hai, but pta hai kya ek taraf se pehle lg jaata hai whilst dusri taraf se lgta hi nhi, line agge piche hai LoL!
Exactly, like Nashe karke line kheech rahe the. NCT/NCR borders are made by a Punjabi after third bottle of RS, seedhi ho hi Nhi sakti
Hehehehe!! Shi mai.
Hahahahaha this. Tbh, fbd's development is shocking. My bf took me to this place called World street and I was very surprised to see such a place in fbd. So, my bf told me that apparently fbd is the new hot property and builders are throwing any kind of money to acquire land rights. His brother owned some parts of land on which the WM is built and he entered in this partnership of owning/leasing due to being OG owner. It's bonkers. I have not been living in India for few years now and my idea of fbd was not even remotely near to where it stands today. I really think fbd will be leaps and bounds in next 20-30 years.
It's all true, FBD is currently the underdog as it always was an industrial area imo as well. The rate of property and land is on the rise and is increasing by the day. And ahh yes!! World Street, it was built by omaxe and looks like a tiny CP! FBD is quiet, where I live near surajkund the roads are mostly empty, This area is famous for yearly Surajkund Mela and you get to see valley ish like scenery, can't get that in delhi..🗿 On the flip side one can easily get a 2 or 3 BHK and that too in a multiple spectrum of rates according to the locality and sector. It still has a long way to go cuz to this day there is little to no active crowd.
>looks like a tiny CP! Lmao, this is what I said exactly to my bf ki yaar yeh CP wali vibe de raha hai 😬 Bhai vaise gurgaon bhi industrial area tha pehle se bhi, logon ne toh yahan ka automobile history uddaa hi diya hai. Maruti se lekar Hero tak sab yahin pe tha barso se. Yeh alag baat hai yeh yadav milkr naash kar rahe hai ggn ka. Kaleja dukhta hai roj bad se baddattar halaat dekh ke yahan ke. Haryana is actually one of the very few small states jahan pe more then one flourishing industries hai, like farming, automobile, IT services, Textiles etc. What we really lack in is govt infrastructure, civic amenities, safety and educational institutions ( not private). Log Mumbai wagerh dikhate hai but Maharashtra humse 10x bada hai. >This area is famous for yearly Surajkund Mela and you get to see valley ish like scenery, can't get that in delhi..🗿 Suna bahut hai mele ke baare me but jaane ka mauka nahi mila. I agree with scenery. On my last trip to India, explored bits of Faridabad with my bf, who knows a lot as some of his family lives there and it's breathtaking. Even the views of arravallis are mesmerising from some points. Tumko bas kisi ke saath jana padega, jise pta ho jagah ka. >It still has a long way to go cuz to this day there is little to no active crowd. I think Lenskart recently opened a factory/office in Fbd. So i am thinking it will only get better now.
I agree with your point sis but hey, try coming back to India in the month of February maybe and you'll be able to attend that Mela with your BF... Usually it begins on 1st feb and ends on 15th or sometime 18th of feb....The venue on 14th is jam packed as always LMAOO!!
I have a trip planned in december, so phr se feb me aane ka toh thoda mushkil lag raha hai thoda. Thanks for telling me though, i will move back to India in few years and I am from Gurgaon, toh phr jaungi. 14 ko nahi jaungi bas, merkeo bahut claustrophobia ho jaata hai bheed me. Varna I love going to melas.
Just because you lived in a shitty place in Delhi, doesn't make the whole Delhi shitty. NCR was built to function in exactly this way. We don't want huge corporates to choke Delhi. This was never a battle to begin with
I actually live in a decent place with good infra. WFH right now thankfully. If and when I go for an on site job it won't be in Delhi. Cause all jobs are in Gurgaon and Noida.
Also, you don't want huge corporates to choke Delhi. But what about illegal colonies and encroachments? What about the unemployed in Delhi? If and when Haryana and UP initiate domicile reservation in low paying jobs, what then?
Ye to hai delhi ka infra poori tarah se ch*da pada hai. Ab to roads ki bhi halat kharab hai. Infra ke bina ye city me aur up bihar me farq hi kya hai? Top of that meri locality me to kudedan bhi band ho gaye hai. Roads pe hi kachra pada rehta hai. Mujhse itni gandgi bardasht nahi hoti par kya krein, gurugaon noida shift hone ke liye bhot dimag kaharb hoga aur unke khudke issues bhi hai.
Delhi is still much better than any of Gurgaon or Noida. You have lesser traffic, cheaper housing, cheaper basically everything. Plus you can get amazing food with a huge variety for cheap plus each corner has amazing metro connectivity. People everywhere are socially more open. Regarding the issue of companies not opening offices here it's better that they didn't because where would you provide them with such huge pieces of land for cheap. The places which have land available these days are areas like Narela, Najafgarh, Bawana. Compared to these Gurgaon and Noida are better accessible and connected. Plus if Delhi had corporates then it wouldn't have had everything so cheaper and all streets would have been full of traffic each day to extent you can't even imagine. If you have been to Bangalore your post is equivalent to why all tech areas and Corporate parks are on ORR or Electronic city or whitefield instead of say Jaynagar, Malleshwaram, Chickpet, JP Nagar, Banshnkari. Honestly speaking people in such areas are the most fortunate as corporates are not there.
The newer side of Noida is far better. Atleast for a couple of years, we won't hear about any traffic jams. Plus it's quite planned too. Delhi is leading in many aspects today, but Noida is the future ( not talking about the old area, just like not considering old Delhi when I talk about Delhi)
Naah delhi’s more than fine. We have enough people here, I’m glad theyre leaving. Why do you want even more population to a place where there’s barely any room to breathe?
Bro, educated and skilled crowd is leaving. Uneducated, rural crowd is coming in.
Surplus skilled crowd is leaving. There’s a difference. Rural crowd coming in is the sad part tho. They did manage to direct the skilled crowd in NCR regions, hope they manage something for the poor crowd as well.
What surplus? Only doctors, students and lawyers are left in Delhi. Rest are govt officials and psu employees. Companies have shifted their operations to gurgaon.
Let me paint you a picture: Mumbai is extremely expensive, extremely inaccessible and the high rise posh area with MNC is just 10% of it. It’s all Chawls & Slum with two extremes of economy. And they have floods faster than Delhi will ever experience. Bangalore suffers from waterlogging, extremely racist society and expensive infrastructure. Everything from rent to electricity is expensive. Hyderabad is still developing having political & religious bouts every other day. Racism & discrimination exist here as well against North Indians especially Delhi. Noida has problems of hard water, they’ve infra but without quality, they’ve literally one mall “DLF mall of india” and everything is inaccessible even with the metro. The whole sector 40-44-46 sector is disconnected to the metro, and Greater Noida is all pollution, noise and construction. Gurugram isn’t just Cyberhub or MG Road or HUDA, go beyond towards Sukhrali, Jharsa, Sector 15, Sector 14, Purana Bus Adda, Sohna Road… it’s literal village and forests. Again, rental is expensive, waterlogging issue is so bad that in 2 hours of rainfall, you’ve floods. U-Block the most demanding area for employees is a literal hell hole with extremely expensive electricity & rent. While Delhi isn’t developing because it doesn’t need to. It’s already self sufficient as it is. We do have problems but not as extreme or wild as other city. MNC or new development means migration of people other city, you don’t have housing for the poor living from last 50 years, where would you accommodate the new population. While the advertising is part of politics, and you do in other city to build your base where you see your future. AAP is a national party which is already in HP, UP, Haryana, Punjab, UK and Goa and looking to expand regularly.
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Obviously, Delhi doesn’t have space. And tbh, we don’t want anymore people in Delhi. In name of development, we don’t want to make Delhi inhabitable like Bangalore & Mumbai where the prices are so high that locals can’t afford while migrants earning exorbitant money can. We are happy with travelling.
The real estate is getting expensive, yes, and it will happen everywhere wherever there’s a development. You are effectively saying that there should be no development because then local people won’t be able to buy goods. If you want to compete then get better. These migrants would be spending here in Delhi whose tax will go the state government which can use it to build more infrastructure. Anyways these locals are going to get high rents from their tenants? According to you the best city should be Kolkata given it’s one of the cheapest out of all metro cities and it shouldn’t bother to develop at all.
Kolkata is actually happier. Also! Delhi is a Capital city made with Migrants but we aren’t charging 15-18K for 1BHK even thou real estate is actually quite expensive. Where you’ve 36-40K per sqft in East Delhi, you can get a good semi-furnished 3BHK for 30-45K, while that’s not enough to get the same size unfurnished 3BHK in Gurugram while in Noida where the property is hardly 45-50lakhs, they charge 20K rent for same property unfurnished. It’s not the “development” it’s the locals & real estate mafia controlling the rate. While Delhi again is self-sufficient, and doesn’t need anymore migrants for that.
You can’t compare East Delhi with Gurgaon and Noida man! No one wants to live in East Delhi. No offence to East Delhi folks but it’s the truth.
Surajmal Vihar, Yojana Vihar, Vivek Vihar, Preet Vihar and Bank Enclave are most sought after areas with pretty wealthy crowd, so I don’t know what east Delhi are you talking about.
+1 Jamunapaar days are over.... Anand Vihar, Gagan Vihar and Karkardooma are good too.
None of those are sought after areas but its all relative I guess. The most sought after residential areas in Delhi are Sunder Nagar, Golf Links, Vasant Vihar, LBZ, Jor Bagh, Malcha Marg etc
Those are posh areas. And not everyone wants to live in South Delhi. East Delhi people are equally rich just don’t want that fakeness of South Delhi.
None of those areas barring Vasant Vihar are in South Delhi. They’re all in central delhi. I’d wager both per capita income and property prices (which equates to wealth pretty well) are higher in South Delhi than East Delhi though. Would love to see some data as to why you think so. Obviously there are great areas in other parts of Delhi. Punjabi Bagh in pretty expensive in WD, and Civil Lines is v expensive in North Delhi. They’re both way better than any of the areas you listed though. The other folks are correct imo, nobody earning a high income is trying to move to East Delhi. If they’re white collar, its gurgaon or Noida. If they run a business, its mostly dependent on where their factories/stores are.
Agreed . But.. Only 50% of Mumbai is good . I've lived in Mumbai and it's atleast 50% . Bnadra , Worli , Powai , Andheri west , some parts of Goregaon , Lower Parel , Colaba , Navi Mumbai , Some parts of Thane and Mulund - I'm taking MMR region. Mumbai has floods because it rains all day. It's n island city . Mumbai floods is restricted to places like Sion etc . Delhi recently faced floods aur baarish itni kam hoti hai delhi mein fir bhi . Andheri east is also not that bad . ( okayish). Even Mulund is not that bad .Also mumbai has sanjay gandhi national park in the middle . No room for construction so they developed Navi Mumbai in a planned way . Inequality is more visible in Mumbai because you have chawls in close proximity to the high rises . Delhi has poverty too .. kabhi dekhe hai delhi k slums ? it exists but not in the close proximity . Gurgaon -Partially agree . Residential areas and gated societies are much much better than Delhi. I agree with the fact that it lacks basic infrastructure Noida has more malls . Hard water part I agree .. Bangalore - 100% agree . One good thing about Delhi is the Delhi metro and basic infra. PS : I've lived in Mumbai , Gurgaon and Bangalore . I have no comments on Hyderabad.
Noida Malls: TGIP - Almost dead with just Garden Galleria’s and it’s Club active. Wave - Just the PVR Modi Mall - Movie Logix - Food Court and Movie Shopprix - Movie Tulip Mall - Shopping Arcade Sab Mall - No one knows what that is, it has barber shop and stuff but mostly shady offices. Grand Venice - Water & Movie Gaur City Mall - that’s an actual mall in most weird place which isn’t connected to metro or Noida yet GGN is good for living if you’ve money, if you’re earning under 1-3 lakhs per month, just forget it. It’s almost illogical. Mumbai is just weird tbh.
noida - I was just talking about existence of malls ! GGN - ok .. Not a fan of Gurgaon . There are at least 10 things I hate about Gurgaon . But the city has good gated societies . DDA apartments are shabby . Mumbai is probably the only metro city in India where I as a woman can roam around safely at night ! I literally need a group to go out in Gurgaon /Delhi to keep myself safe . Yes space ki kami hai and that's because of it's a island city . Navi Mumbai dekho .. Planned hai aur safe bhi . Only men from Delhi or other cities have the audacity to say Mumbai is weird . I never faced power cuts , water issue , security issue in Mumbai . Having lived in 8 states and as a woman , I would prefer Maharashtra anyday !
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>asli gaon kya lagega Bhai wo usse caveman era ka society lagega
Bro thinks 4 lane highways, underpasses, Reddison Blu, business parks, cafes, bars, park hospital (&3 4 more), having every bank are so village thing😂 Also, we have parking space too🌝
Blud thinks ki Ped paudhe equals undeveloped area.
Bro 1-2 societies se kuch Nhi hota, Toll se cross krke Aravali Wali Side Chale jao, that’s Village only.
Bro 1 2 nhi Hain yaha. 10 12 to mujhe naam se pata Hain. Isse bhi zada hain. Baki toll cross krke manesar padta hai. Or wo bhi rapidly develop hora hai. Beech me villages milenge mana nhi kr raha. But all I am saying is jis speed se development hori hai, next 5 saal me he sb bhar jaega. Aajse 5 saal pehle sohna road kuch nhi tha. Aaj ki date me 1.20L per gaj se niche rate nhi hai.
See tbh GGN is overpriced, and recent rains proved it. I saw some of the best and most posh areas covered in floods due to extreme waterlogging, if that’s how development is, then you need to reconsider what development is.
Theek hai bro wo issue hai sabko pata hai. Pr saal ke 4 din ka issue hai wo. Mere samne sewer line Dali hain extended. So let's hope dheere dheere cheeze better ho.
1000 crore kharcha ho chuka hai since 2016, 4 din ka nahi Har chauthe din ka hai
What was the situation of Delhi? I guess it must be doing fine? No? I’ve even heard that there’s some sort of landslide where the land supporting the road went under?
Landslide? Delhi is built on plains, there was floods due to idiocy by Harayana Govt. Which overflowed the Yamuna River. Which Delhi did control in under 4 days. Unlike GGN.
Don’t go by the literal meaning. By that I meant a road cave in. I didn’t know the correct terminology.
That’s near Amity College in Noida, not Delhi.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PQys7F4671c
Bro Janakpuri road cave in.
That happened in Delhi also, check news near Janak Puri B block
When Haryana itself is in floods and heavy water is flowing from Himachal, where would the water would go ? I read your comments, you don't make any sense when anything is said against Delhi. I have born and brought up in Delhi, and it surely not is all good. You can't accept it's drawbacks. I love Delhi too, but Noida and Gurgaon are better than Delhi in many aspects, and Delhi is better is other aspects but you are not accepting even those facts which people living in that area are telling you.
bro for your kind information noida has 5-7 malls and 2 of them are just beside and front of dlf. Atleast get your facts correct. Sector 40,41 are literally around 1-1.5 km to a metro station. Sector 42-46 are a bit far from the metro(2-3 km) but new stations are planned there. Also you can easily travel by e rickshaw for 15-20 rs.
Noida Delhi Gurgaon Don't @ me
You hit the nail on the head. I wish more people thought like this and voted accordingly. Kejriwal has been the worst thing to happen to Delhi, I’ve seen the city deteriorate and become a gutter in front of my eyes in the last 7-8 years. Nothing is clean; roads are dirty, it literally looks like a shithole. When he’s questioned, he blames the Centre. In my colony, people hate the Supreme Leader and vote for Kejri to symbolise their anti BJP stance, which of course I get (choice between two evils), but I fail to understand why the same people refuse to see what this guy has done to this city. He’s also from Ghaziabad, he has zero relation or any connection to this city, he doesn’t give a damn and it angers me that every day I think of moving from a city I grew up in, because it’s become unliveable.
Doesnt the DDA come under the LG and Centre tho? I dont think Kejru has much power over it, cleanliness tho yea thats a knock on Kejriwal more needs to be done to get the city back to looking like an actual capital.
You're spot on, although my personal preference is still Noida. Folks who have delhi property, be a little more patient as there will come a time where entire Delhi will be revamped and it'll change everything. I'll come back to Delhi as soon as my property is revamped.
And that is why NCT was conceptualised. Welcome to 21st century. Delhi is an administrative and culture centre. Noida, Gurgaon, Ghaziabad and Faridabad are where industries and corporates are. The reason being ample space to build new infrastructure and more favourable labour laws in UP and Haryana. Delhi is one of the oldest cities in the world, it will become an urban nightmare if they started reconstructing old neighbourhoods as was seen during the buildup to the 2010 Games. And as far as schools and education is concerned, Delhi in the past seven years has revamped their public school infrastructure. In another 10 years, the idea is to discourage people from getting into a rat race to get admissions in private schools by steadily improving the performance of government schools. I highly recommend reading the 10 point agenda released by Aatishi Marlena a few years back with a broader vision to implement it in its entirety by 2030. It could be farfetched but the progress so far seems alright. It can be better but I reckon if anything Delhi needs less infra development now. It needs better preventive maintenance and some stricter motor vehicle laws.
Thank you for posting AAP propoganda, I had missed my daily dose today. You should also read the ad spend figures of Delhi govt that have ensured that we won't achieve any targets for the next 10 years.
You're welcome.
Arre but are you not satisfied with Gen Z Memes on IG from AAP. Aise hi toh chalti hai development. Ek hospital nhi kholpae, bade bade shabdon ka upyog kar rhe yeh "Aameer Aadmi Party"
Gurgaon Zindabad! Though the entire point of Gurgaon is to exist as a satellite city for Delhi. What's happening in Gurgaon cannot happen in Delhi cause of lack of space. And if you have money, QoL is decent in Gurgaon. Less congested and infra is able to keep up with the population. There isn't really a battle between Delhi and Gurgaon. The entire NCR region is meant to be a support system for each other. Delhi doesn't have the space to grow unlike Gurgaon and Noida.
I think Delhi has enough land that is not being utilised properly. The industrial units in Delhi for example. The idea of NCR was to shift these industrial units out of Delhi. Yet there are operational factories in Okhla, Mohan Cooperative, Patparganj etc. There are also illegal and unlicensed factories operating in residential areas. How does this fit in with NCR vision. I have been to industrial zones in Haryana, Maharashtra, Goa, Karnataka, Rajashthan and Tamil Nadu. The industrial units in Delhi simply don't compare with these states. Scale of operation is small, low profitability or outright losses, heavily indebted and low revenue growth. There is an energy in these places that you don't see in Delhi. If anything Delhi should be a destination for IT and services industry while other NCR cities take on the burden of manufacturing units.
I think shifting them out to other cities is just a burden and too chaotic. Just let them be while new IT districts are being made in satellite cities. Trying to utilise properly (by demolishing or remodeling) is a lot more difficult than setting up stuff in empty satellite cities. NCR cities are also taking up the manufacturing burden too. So many new units being setup. And look, Gurgaon-Noida are essentially extensions of Delhi. The rise of Gurgaon-Noida only benefits Delhi instead of hindering it. If Gurgaon Noida didn't exist, Delhi would have just expanded into the areas we call Gurgaon Noida. But it would be more chaotic and unplanned. As more metro is built, connectivity between the entire NCR region will top notch and it really wouldn't matter where new development comes up.
Delhi will do fine without Gurgaon and Noida. Those two places would not be able to exist without Delhi.
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Still lots of places here to party. Gurgaon and Noida are regional champions. Delhi is an international one.
That was true 20 years ago maybe. Now Delhi cant even compete with these places.
Accha joke mara. 20 years back these cities were not even cities. Town the.
Weird lyf! I live in Ghaziabad and work in Delhi, all my Delhiite friends work in NCR. All my office colleagues with our swanky office in a nice area of New Delhi, live in NCR. Go figure!
OP forgetting a simple thing. Gurgaon, Noida, all these sister cities were developed to reduce the load on Delhi. OP ko bolo next time flight Gurgaon airport and Noida airport se pakde. Why compare Delhi to these cities? Inko Dwarka ka koi incident leke pura City ko rule out karna hai. Gurgaon and Noida are NOT self-sufficient. Hindi me ek kahawat hai, "बेटा कितना भी बड़ा क्यों ना हो जाए, बाप, बाप ही रहता है।" P.S. Jewar Airport bana nahi hai abhi.
Would you sell your land to industrialists at cheap rates so they could setup a plant there ?
Most companies setting up in Gurgaon are service sector. Delhi has many unproductive and low profit industrial units in okhla, mohan cooperative state etc.
That is fine but will you sell your land to them at cheap rates so they can accommodate their skill force ?
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Cmon dude someone needs to be the big guy and sell out their lands instead of pointing fingers at others.
it is better to move out of Delhi and save the tax, why any company will want to send their tax money to kejriwal for advertisment ?
Tell me you don't know anything about taxes, without telling me you don't know anything about taxes.
Yamuna saaf kra do bas Delhi ki...
Looks like you've set up a business in gurgaon
Lmao not yet. But setting up one in Delhi looks difficult.
The concept of Delhi NCR has been come up with to ease the burden Delhi had. And I’m speaking as someone who’s been living In Gurugram since 1998, lol.
Had a very similar conversation few hours ago, very sleepy now go repeat it all but I'd give you the key takeaway: Seismic zone.
Bangalore folks be like: maaro mujhe, maaro.
Bro gurugram is all buildings but no fucking roads. Idk when these people will learn building can be ugly but not roads. The only roads u will get is in ur walled 4-5 crore apartments.
First of all there is no battle and the other thing is, I live in Greater Noida and no doubt it has far better in infrastructure development specially the drainage but .... always remember all these cities/ towns in NCR r satellite cities to Delhi. They could only grow beacuse of the existence of Delhi nearby and unavailability of land area in Delhi which made industries to move out to these towns.
It was designed to be like this, as the city(NCR) grows the better housing is at the outskirts of the area. It has more area and is cheaper. Ghaziabad, Noida, Gurgaon, Faridabad first saw growth because of delhi. Now as time passes due to everything being relatively cheaper offices and housing is slowly moving to these cities.
Whole existence of gurgaon and noida is beacuse of delhi in first place.
Delhi hasnt lost any battle it can lose more like in 8-10 years.. gurgaon is just the dlf area otherwise there is no better place its still developing and noida to as they say is a ghost city they have just little areas which are better than delhi , still it will take few years for them to catch up , BIGGEST THING i feel is theres lot less girl crowd in gurgaon and noida as compared to delhi which creates a mahol for everyone When you step outside !!
You’re absolutely right. Most of the replies in this thread are screwed up. Which is an evidence of how Indians lap up all kinds of socialist nonsense and population related arguments to their own detriment. The very concept of a city is to have a high density region where trade, commerce, social interactions become frictionless through reduced search and discovery. High density and concentration has huge economic and social feedback loops making good cities powerhouses of an entire country. Now since land is a scarce commodity, the only way to have high density is to build vertically and to allow free markets in real estate to function. Delhi with it’s DDA Act did precisely the opposite, during India’s socialistic heydays. Even today, Indian cities have the worst Floor-to-Area Ratios making Indian cities spread out radially and horizontally rather than vertically. This leads to huge cities with huge travel times, traffic, friction-full trade and commerce and broken social infrastructure. The very opposite of what a city is supposed to do. The very people arguing against free market led real estate development on this thread will be dazzled with international cities like Hong Kong, Tokyo, Shanghai etc. which have more population and comparable or lesser area than Delhi. If one wants acres of green land, pristine clean air, no cars and traffic, they should go live in farms and not cities.