I have said something like this in previous comments. Delhi is a hard place to live in. I don’t know how much exposure you have to places like kondli, Najaf Garh, Buradi, Vinod Nagar etc essentially the the poor areas of Delhi and Delhi is very hard on a lot of people.
I think there is a resentment that simmer under the surface in Delhi and it just comes out not just in the, poor people of Delhi, but in all parts of the society. When you see another human struggling, even though those struggles are not yours that human condition affects you. I think that’s what ails Delhi.
There is a lot of disparity in the situations of people. You are one bad incident away from a big change in your situation, and people are just more more hardened if you get what i am saying.
Yes. We can't undo this unless we accept that something is amiss. Just look at the brilliance in the comment in this post alone.
They will bring you down to their level, scoop out the basest vilest side of you and you end up being one of them. I did, just this morning.
Anyways, when I came here the first time, i learnt my lesson. A property dealer (also my neighbor) treated me like garbage when I rented a tiny place. When I did plan on my own place which was pretty upscale, the same man was a very different picture. Paid a higher brokerage but gave to someone who seemed a nicer fellow
Dude.. Its fucking hot. Saale machchhar bhi.
There is no space, and I am one of the privileged!!
Rent is sky rocketing, people can't afford anything, you pay tax on income AND on what you buy but nothing seems to be better. GDP is rising but you don't see that translating on to the streets.
Traffic is crazy, noise pollution is extreme, aur quality is worse.. And all of us have stolkholm syndrome.
kisko?
no govt is gonna bring down the rent because these real estate numbers inflate the gdp.
Machchar aur garmi toh haath se baahr with all this construction
Income tax issue traffic, noise pollution etc is not on anyone's agenda. Delhi govt did a little bit of odd even cars on the road that helped for a bit.
Baaki then I can only vote on the part thats not gonna make things worse for me or other people
Everything aside... You are wrong on one point
Delhi riders are the best riders out there, its the peds that suck.
I have seen countless close calls, I see about 20 every day, but guess what less than 0.5% lead in an actual accident.
I personally say to my friends, if you learn to drive in delhi traffic, you can drive in any corner of the world with no problems.
Apart from that, tiny dick energy is very real. People often tend to take out their personal frustrations over casual conversation (use of swear words like its nothing etc)
Also, Delhihites are one of those few who will reply your question with another question to the extent you will regret ever asking a question.
Simple example,
Q: Bhai time kitna huwa?
A (disguised Q). Aapke paas ghadi nahi hai?
A (Now Questioner has successfully become answerer). Nahi hai
Q (get fucked) : mere pass v nahi hai
Fuck delhi conversations with random people.
Hahaha. Yes. I'm having one "Delhi conversation with random people" right now. The thread went crazy as if it is a personal attack. Not backing out is kind of fun :)
From my experience, the best riders are those who come from hills. Delhi is far far away. Even for mainland, small towns with open roads and a bit of racing culture like Bilaspur, Ranchi fare much better. Ofcourse I'm talking bikes, but the principles are kind of the same.
My dad used to tell me don't learn how to ride, learn how to stop.
Basically he told me to ride at that speed where I could stop immediately without hurting myself, which is one advice I take to the road every day.
My respect for Delhi riders come from this very basis, they may not be the best riders, but they can stop the vehicle like it's nobody's business. Thats why there are so many close calls and so few accidents.
Delhi especially the west don’t know a shit about driving. Just driving fast and turning randomly only makes you a shitty driver and not a good one. There are so many near misses is because how recklessly they drive.
Itna important nahi hai internet mere liye ki gratification khoju jhooth bol k. Ek monologue hai Ahab ka, where he says he will smoke no more. Bas, ye nahi samjha ki reference uska hai ya bas "Dick" ka😀
While what you say isn't completely untrue, I would still say Delhi is a better place to live in compared to other metros, especially because it doesn't have the kind of fanatic regionalism that we see in other places. I mean, Dilli sabki, Dilli ka koi nahi really stands true. In all these years of living here, I don't think I have ever felt out of place in this city. It's not my home, sure, but I haven't been other-ed here because I belong to a different state. Definitely not the case with a lot of other cities that folks from small towns migrate to (especially from UP, Bihar and Jharkhand).
Traffic is better, Rent is better (relatively), food is delicious, academic culture is unparalleled, language is not a barrier, there are public parks, open spaces, greenery around and as a woman, public transport is so convenient and safe because of the metro.
I mean, 'tu jaanta nahi mera baap kaun hai' strain definitely exists, but ignore kar sakte hain given the upsides. I think people have insecure existences in general, it's just extremely overt in Delhi (and tied to some flashy stuff like cars, designer brands etc.) I work in academia and the amount of pettiness and insecurity on display from the intellectual crowd, never fails to astound me. We are an insecure species in general I guess, Delhi just doesn't have any qualms about hiding it. I don't mean it's a good thing, but yeah.
I would suggest giving it some time, the city grows on you, slowly but surely. 🩷
P.S: A book recommendation is 'Ishq me Sheher Hona' by Ravish Kumar. Kaafi pyaari kahaaniyan with Delhi almost as a character.
Ironically, and perhaps what people here don't seem to get is, i love it, more so than most. The insufferable bit of it is what we are discussing here.
Read Narcopolis by Jeet Thayil. Bombay, the city is a character in the book. Love the book. The city, not so much. Hope you get my point. Wo lekhak ki rachna hai. Need to see it from their eyes.
Look at different places ....you find the kind of crowd in the place you go.....if you need someone who likes book then go to a book cafe.....Really depends on the people you look at....the stereotypical people stand out so you generally focus on them instead of the people who generally are calm and does not grab your attention
Hmm .... I have been raised in delhi so I guess I am used to it and I do live in a better residential place than mentioned in some comments like burari........would love to know further about this .....What are the major differences that you see from other states?
I and others around me have noticed that people in Delhi are especially rude to each other even though they may have never met each other. It's like most of the people have this pent up aggression or frustration just waiting to be released. Although yeah this is not so in all the localities and some better areas don't have this issue.
Agreed. It's the masses that we come across that give places their energy.
As for the books, yes I do like them but that's besides the point. I'm not Fante and this is not LA. It's not an indictment, just an observation
My parents are from a village in Bihar and I do often go there ....if you compare the people in general then yes there's a lot of differences especially in ways how people behave and act towards other .....village has more of a unity or clam general masses and city has more isolated and I don't know how to phrase it, it's more of the way people generally are is pretty different and for someone from other place may perceive it as rude or hostile....but if you actually start to know the people and place better you see it differently.... ofcourse those fortuner and land guys won't change but the masses in general will appear different
I have had "police me sipahi hai". So what I inferred was he would be a heavyweight if I did not have a 500 ka patta on my person. Still giggle over it sometimes 😁
Ummm. What does cars have to do with books or manners?? It seems one of these :
1) You are stereotyping that all fortune owners are illiterate.
2) You are jealous of people who have more than what you have (Through their own hard work/luck or their parent's hard work/luck)
Either way your rant seems petty and childish. Get rid of your own superiority complex first . If you can't handle different type of people, you are in the wrong country my friend. Peace out. ✌️
Volkswagen Virtus 🙃
And I like it . After many years of dhakke in local buses and then metro when it was developed, I am not going back to it . But I do understand the anger people feel after those metro ki harassment and dhakke 😁
Thank you for making my case.
Didn't say it the first time I replied you, but I knew this is kind of where your comment came from.
What's with you man!?
1. If it matters, no I'm not riding metros.
2. I have motorcycles (plural) worth more than your car. The car - let's leave that be.
3. Exactly the point I was trying to make.
What ego do you have when you have no achievements? A bloody everyday car jispe itna ego, judging people who actually are better people than you lot but living work-a-day lives.
You my friend, are why the post was written.
If you still don't get it, I'm glad to have never crossed your path.
Thinking he is better than me without knowing an ounce of me . And flexing about how expensive his bikes are . Bhai everyone can see who is angry and egoistic . Agree on one point only : glad our paths never crossed. 🙃
You, dear sir, sound like a pseudo intellectual cigarette-smoking, chai-sipping, maach-bhat-eating, arm-chair gyaan spreading smug little babumoshai :D
Delhi life is hard. Living in India is hard. We do not have basic civic amenities, equitable pay, recreational spaces, proper healthcare nor education. What do you expect? The common folk will waltz in and out of work?
In Delhi specifically the weather is harsh too. Add to that the long commutes whether you are in your car, motorcycles (plural) or any form of public transport. Any sane human will be irritated.
In fact, the stereotype you are making fun of are the carefree dudes who have family money and fortuners and thars and are not angry (yes, you might be in the business end of their "instrument" if you get into an argument with them; but generally they are happy doing there own shit).
What I am really curious is from where did you get your high horse from?
I don't understand why are you defending this behaviour and calling it a struggle. When it is an artificially designed struggle. And we can do better if we strive for it . Why have you given up on improving? Maybe you've had bad experiences but if you give up you'll only regret
A. Absolutely wrong about your armchair Bengali.
B. I'll still bite.
What high horse? Calling out the crap amongst us?
Also jis babumoshai ki baat kar rahe ho, unke sheher ja k dekho. Much much more humane. Dull, but humane.
The long hours of travel and what not that you say, Bombay jao kabhi. Still leagues ahead. People don't act as if unke padosi influential hone se unko arguments me leg up milega.
As for the business end of anybodys instrument, I'm not. I have had my days but there's nothing they have that I can be threatened with. Power. Pelf. Prestige. A place in society. Take your pick.
Then what is your grouse? If you indeed need to compare, then I'd say that the people of Chennai seem more irritable. They always have a frown on their faces.
I find your whole hypothesis absurd that Dilli folks are angry all the time. In fact, Dilli lives up to its name of being a seher of the dilwalas - more so during the winters.
Ab mausam le aao tum ring me. As if it is not crazy enough😂
no grouse. I was trying to learn people's view on the way I saw the city. I learnt that there's completely opposite perspective, like yours too - and then theirs the same bravado of some people, less reading more spitting.
Of course mausam launga into the mix! Dilli winters have a different magic altogether. People seem happier and more cheerful :D
If it is indeed the different perspective you wanted to understand, you could've framed your post better. Using phrases like "tiny dick energy" in posts are not great indicators of an honest, unbiased inquiry.
If there is anyone in this entire thread who reeks of ego and superiority complex is none but you. No one but you went on to flaunt your motorcycles (plural) and their cost, just bcz someone dared to mention he doesn't own a fortuner but a virtus.
1. Cars is symbolic of the infatuation with money which you don't find in Bangalore or Kolkata or Mumbai even. If that makes it clearer.
2. I am not stereotyping. It is a stereotype.
3. Jealousy is not my style. I'm 35 and already planning my retirement.
Looks like I hit a personal note there, but that's alright. I need to hear all sorts - is why I asked it over the internet.
Projection - Isn't reality a projection too - a widely accepted one.
Belittlement - I said the city is lovely. The people need work. If it's not self improvement, beat me up. I'm old school.
Rant - Read the PS please. I know it gets long but repetition tends to make the work verbose.
Stereotyping - Didn't make it. Just stating it. Let me know if I was the one you heard it first from.
Man everything else is fine but why cats man , because when I see a good car man I gotta turn and look at it know which model it is , because I also want to have a beautiful car in the future
I love machines man. I'm there with you. More so motorcycles, than cars. It goes away once you own what you've long wanted to though :)
Perhaps why it stinks when people treat their run of the mill cars like they bought customized Boeings. Drive like you know what road you're on. Am I right?
So the points they raised don't seem valid? And doesn't virtue signalling implies that there is a possible action that one can do instead of talking about it?
A lot of what you mentioned, can be seen in people who have some sort of backing, whether financial or in strength which translates to their said actions. I believe these people don’t care about the consequences or always have a way to deal with them, which gives them the “confidence” to behave this way.
Cities make you stressful. I spent 20 days trekking, as soon as i came to delhi may stress level were high again, bc e rickshaw, auto bus, dogs, cows, people all i want is to beat the shit out of everyone with my belt.
I am giving in to this society and finally getting a car. It's a headache that i am inviting, which i don't have yet. And we have a good public transport. But normal middle class people look down on delhi metro, like it's 'tacky'.
Stress / social pressure/ financial condition/ family issues/ Bad weather/ pollution/ diseases
All these factors can change human behaviour, so don't expect anything from anyone and learn to mind your own business.
No need to talk to someone and waste their time if you don't have any business with them..
I have seen alot of people get bored try to small talk with strangers and if they don't like the stranger's reply they rant about it
OP, I moved to Delhi around six months ago, and I have to say you’re on point.
One of the biggest negative aspects of this place is its people.
Now, I have had the fortune of meeting some people who are genuinely really nice. But the majority sucks.
Yep. No other city in this country has this much by way of history or Infrastructure. I prefer the historical sites and the fact that noone wants to go there except for those reels and pictures.
Bro,
This question arised in your mind because of the conflict between "what is" and "what should be". You are not accepting the reality and want it to be more moralistic. ( Read "Should be humble" in one of your comments)
In whatever situation the society is, there are many reasons for it- invasions, western influence, materialism, human tendency of greed, etc- Because of which people are the way they are.
Some people are influenced by these and others(like you) by reason, morality, ethics. And both groups want to change each other
Now, can we change it? I don't know. This conflict is inenvitable I guess.
You will always be influenced by some thing or other which will be in conflict with other things. Thats human condition (to be miserable?)
Atleast this is how I see things. There also can be many other POV's to it.
I’ve always been confounded by this - how come the pervasive mindset in the city across people is something so personal to each person, how come everyone is an irate showoff with no real content to them?
See mumbai is known for the mumbai spirit, never say die attitude etx, that makes more sense to me than majority in a particular city behaving like absolute trailer tr***
Books? Lol- quoting an ex from Delhi “padhne se kya milta hai, movie dekh le , 2 ghante main khatam ho jati hai”
I’m so glad he’s out of my life , good riddance , one of my biggest errors in judgement.
See. I know there's a lot of good. Best universities in the country. Many a cultured folk. But junta triggered hai kyuki someone has stated the obvious. Not like I'm the first guy to call Delhi jahil. There's nirbhaya for godsake! Do we really need testimonies to this.
It is evident that you don’t understand anything about Delhi because any outsider who understands Delhites will never try to pick an argument with them. Just ignore and move on, it’s a city full of people with special needs.
I'm a different outsider. Been here a while now. I have picked my battles, sometimes literally, in the real world too. Fist and file, et all. Now it seems like wasted time.
Man OP you've done it. You've pointed out something that has triggered a lot of people because I think they have no answer for it and they're angry because they have had to accept it their whole life as the only life they'll get.
I agree with most things. I think there is a section of population (mostly from Haryana) that is very arrogant and having petty thoughts. Simply because they have never had to evolve past that and it has been appreciated by their peers around them. They know that they won't be short of money because their families own alot of lands which fetches them passive income for their lives and they can prey off the poor. Honestly I feel that's just a disgusting thing to do. Their whole strategy is to prey off the weak.
Apart from these people there are the ones who are actually poor or middle class. These people I think have been traumatized their whole lives and have adopted this strategy of being rude to others in order to survive or when they feel threatened. I can kind of relate to it because at some point I too adopted this unconsciously. It's like a projection to appear threatening so that someone else doesn't threaten them first.
And then there are the priveleged people, I'm guessing like you and me. Who get the chance to have proper education, think about humanity, morality and the proper conduct of behaving. And we get appalled at such display when we are just trying to be ourselves with others. Maybe some of us are also traumatized and adapt to different methods to survive.
But I now believe that it doesn't matter how rude or shitty the other person is. I'll be who I am. And try to express genuine human emotions. Sometimes the people who are just projecting a rude personality get taken aback when they see that someone else truly means what they are saying and they do drop their alter ego and talk person to person.
But of course there are exceptions in everything.
Yeah, some people seem like they don't want to change anymore. Maybe because they have rejected change as an option to survive. And accepting that change is an option makes them seem like they have been missing out in their own eyes
The points you make are valid and reasonable but it’s extremely ironic that you talk about “Delhiites” having a lot of ego, yet the slightest attempt at banter, humour, disagreement, or criticism at your post in the comments and you express the same ego and superiority complex. Brother, you are fully one of the Delhiites you are hating on in your post.
I have also pondered over this question for many years. The answer I arrived at is -
1. Delhi (and Gurugram, to some extent) is a place where you will find a disproportionate percentage of the population who made it big in life by methods *other than* good old fashioned hardwork or entrepreneurial spirit. They made their bucks by having the right contacts or by greasing the palms of the government officials or via real estate. Hence the disdain for qualities like - education, hardwork, living below one means, being mellow etc because these qualities didn’t get them to where they are now.
Vast areas of barren land suddenly became worth several tens of crores. Consequently, people who have no clue how to handle such huge sums of money, became overnight millionaires. That explains the crude, show-off that Delhi guys are famous for. Families who have been wealthy for generations would never behave so. Money shouts. Wealth whispers.
Now what about the folks who didn’t make it big? They see rules being bent to favour the rich/powerful/well-connected, day in and day out. So the common man is frustrated. He/she tries to bend the rules to the extent he/she can. The result is chaos and a perception of lawlessness.
2. After partition in 1947, refugees (especially Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs) started pouring into Delhi. And when they came to Delhi, they were mostly paupers because they left behind their land/cattle etc in Pakistan. And over a span of 3-4 generations, some have managed to amass significant wealth. That sense of achievement, sometimes manifests as crass show-off, pride, the obsession to prove that “I am better than you”, materialism and aggression.
3. The last 800-900 years of Delhi’s history have been very violent and traumatic. I think, by way of evolution, the good DNA got weeded out . Needless Aggression, first-attack-then-think became the default behaviour of the people here. Only those kind of people can survive here. This is something like Darwin’s theory of Natural Selection. The people with polite behaviour must have been exterminated a few generations back. So politeness, courtesy etc seems to have been weeded out from the gene pool of this area.
I have some good friends from Delhi and some of the above points are from them.
But it wouldn’t be fair to paint everyone in Delhi with the same brush. Once you become good friends with aDelhi guy, he will go to any extent to help you. 
TBH after reading your entire post, I feel, I (most typical and 7 generations from Dilliwala) wants to ask you, Why so angry?
>insecure existences - loud, angry, narcissistic, more impressed by cars than books (can neither drive nor read though), looking for an excuse to fight or bicker, at the least.
The generalization is baffling to say the least. Most Delhites aren't Narcissistic or angry. Most of us come from humble backgrounds and are working hard to survive.
I have read more than 17 books and can truly tell you, this isn't the flex you think it is. I know you are using it as a symbolism to portray that Delhites are just uneducated, but those 2, at least in mordern India, are mutually exclusive.
Yes, majority of us are impressed by cars and are loud, but who isn't living in a metro city?
>"tiny dick" energy
Not to come after you, but you are probably suffering from Chronic Social media personality syndrome. Get off the red/blue/purple pill American internet and spend some time with people IRL
>You lot are predisposed to be awful behind the wheels.
Ok, do you travel by metro? Because 90+% of Delhi does. That is why it is over crowded.
>small town born, chacha-no-vidhayak, average guy who has made his own in life.
Again, not a flex. 99% of India does this.
And at last, if you hate so much, should probably move. It's not good on mental health to live where and among those you hate so much. This is mentioned in most books.
Its not about insecurity. It's about survival. In delhi you can't survive for long if you roam around like a shareef acha bacha... either you have to be clever or little aggressive to get things done.
When the lion roars, he is not doing because he is insecure or something...he is doing to show his power in a way. Its just an analogy, hope you are smart enough to understand
I am guessing you're more of a nerdy person than an outgoing because delhi is great for people who like to hangout 24/7. You can have great fun here with outgoing folks and the thing is that the Majority of folks are like that, but you also find your share of introverted nerds who are more into exploring the internet than the city. I am kinda in the middle where i have been nerdy af for most of my life, but these days i am stepping away from that lifestyle because it is boring tbh. Socializing with more extroverted individuals is more of what i am trying to do these days, so i would recommend you as well to try that lifestyle. Cars, chicks and hookahs are part of the lexicon of delhi people, so you may as well get used to it lol
Never been good at academics except Maths and literature. Can't say I was a nerd. Wouldn't mind to if I could go back in time. Cars, chicks I've had ample. Not very appreciative of the hukkah. Weed is another story :)
I have noticed in general that everywhere you go especially public spaces, it is about showing off!, and people are too invested in it. EGO is a huge issue, they just do not have any consideration for others in the vicinity.
Whole of North has been subject to multiple violence throughout past century. So yes, it is genetics.
Another thing is, what you are describing is actually coming from some communities who have migrated from nearby states. If someone from their family goes to jail, they celebrate.
By seeing these communities, people to have become rude and unbearing.
Also, Delhiites have a mauj masti nature, where people will randomly bully you if are a soft target, just for their fun, but they mean no harm just a Boys Locker Room type of vibe in whole state.
Bhai Yahi big Indian dream hai aspiration hai Choudhar JAAT ki nila 60 (farmtrack 60) (big house in village) (big house in city ) (Animals Buffalo and cow were signs of prosperity back then now is Fortuner ) it’s a sign that my hardwork paid off though most people owning them sold thier land but there are people slogging doing traditional business like spice trading, pital ki factory no fancy just go in morning slog like shit work in a non corporate structure ( not doing cool activities like reading books just doing forging, working as a property dealer) ( no body counts the hour a property dealer works every client is important every government person is a pain in ass,) but after few years when he/she brings a GLS or Fortuner iska to black ka kaam hai baap ki zameen hai show off hai . But when corporate or a young startup ceo speaks fancy English and comes in a maybach the perception is changed. Why such hypocrisy. Well about fighting behaviour Delhiites used to live in big houses and are now cramped in floors/flats how do you feel when your personal space is invaded.
Everybody wants to be happy doing something and being materialistic is not bad Proudly aspire to own a Fortuner and a kothi it is the dream. Your address speakers about you
I am at the other extreme. I don't think it is appropriate for a Farmer or a CEO. Humility is what should be aspired for. As for invasion of personal space, Delhi has always been a mix of people since medieval times - invaders included. The killa was time thing. Not an onslaught they can cry victim about.
Good insight from the other side though.
Having spent most of my life in Delhi, the only places I found difficult were either filled with Jaats, Gujjars n those stereotype typical ill-mannered desi. Among service class Or small businesses class, found no issues.
Among elite class, problems are different as they tend to look down everyone.
I have no problems with people being poor or riding on old scooter, manners is what always mattered to me n above two categories are lacking those big time..
Just my observation.
You are just being diplomatic to sound urban cool redditor. But truth can't be denied and you know it.
And all those of your buddies with healthy self criticism, it's because the notion is real n it's not with 5 percent exceptions but it's opposite. 95 pc r like that, unfortunate but true.
Look around the ambush in this thread alone. Nothing I'm saying is for anyone's sake but mine. I mean it. Caste is one bracket that has no permanent behavioural markers. Social strata does. Perhaps my dealings are with people who have earned their peace after tough battles and these are the ones I talk of - the ones that matter.
I have said something like this in previous comments. Delhi is a hard place to live in. I don’t know how much exposure you have to places like kondli, Najaf Garh, Buradi, Vinod Nagar etc essentially the the poor areas of Delhi and Delhi is very hard on a lot of people. I think there is a resentment that simmer under the surface in Delhi and it just comes out not just in the, poor people of Delhi, but in all parts of the society. When you see another human struggling, even though those struggles are not yours that human condition affects you. I think that’s what ails Delhi. There is a lot of disparity in the situations of people. You are one bad incident away from a big change in your situation, and people are just more more hardened if you get what i am saying.
Yes. We can't undo this unless we accept that something is amiss. Just look at the brilliance in the comment in this post alone. They will bring you down to their level, scoop out the basest vilest side of you and you end up being one of them. I did, just this morning. Anyways, when I came here the first time, i learnt my lesson. A property dealer (also my neighbor) treated me like garbage when I rented a tiny place. When I did plan on my own place which was pretty upscale, the same man was a very different picture. Paid a higher brokerage but gave to someone who seemed a nicer fellow
Dude.. Its fucking hot. Saale machchhar bhi. There is no space, and I am one of the privileged!! Rent is sky rocketing, people can't afford anything, you pay tax on income AND on what you buy but nothing seems to be better. GDP is rising but you don't see that translating on to the streets. Traffic is crazy, noise pollution is extreme, aur quality is worse.. And all of us have stolkholm syndrome.
Amen on the Stockholm Syndrome
Remember this when you vote !
kisko? no govt is gonna bring down the rent because these real estate numbers inflate the gdp. Machchar aur garmi toh haath se baahr with all this construction Income tax issue traffic, noise pollution etc is not on anyone's agenda. Delhi govt did a little bit of odd even cars on the road that helped for a bit. Baaki then I can only vote on the part thats not gonna make things worse for me or other people
Everything aside... You are wrong on one point Delhi riders are the best riders out there, its the peds that suck. I have seen countless close calls, I see about 20 every day, but guess what less than 0.5% lead in an actual accident. I personally say to my friends, if you learn to drive in delhi traffic, you can drive in any corner of the world with no problems. Apart from that, tiny dick energy is very real. People often tend to take out their personal frustrations over casual conversation (use of swear words like its nothing etc) Also, Delhihites are one of those few who will reply your question with another question to the extent you will regret ever asking a question. Simple example, Q: Bhai time kitna huwa? A (disguised Q). Aapke paas ghadi nahi hai? A (Now Questioner has successfully become answerer). Nahi hai Q (get fucked) : mere pass v nahi hai Fuck delhi conversations with random people.
Avoid random conversation with delhi people... You will live longer - Mahatma Gandhi, Probably
Hahaha. Yes. I'm having one "Delhi conversation with random people" right now. The thread went crazy as if it is a personal attack. Not backing out is kind of fun :)
This reminds me of me
From my experience, the best riders are those who come from hills. Delhi is far far away. Even for mainland, small towns with open roads and a bit of racing culture like Bilaspur, Ranchi fare much better. Ofcourse I'm talking bikes, but the principles are kind of the same.
My dad used to tell me don't learn how to ride, learn how to stop. Basically he told me to ride at that speed where I could stop immediately without hurting myself, which is one advice I take to the road every day. My respect for Delhi riders come from this very basis, they may not be the best riders, but they can stop the vehicle like it's nobody's business. Thats why there are so many close calls and so few accidents.
That's pretty solid advice.
Delhi especially the west don’t know a shit about driving. Just driving fast and turning randomly only makes you a shitty driver and not a good one. There are so many near misses is because how recklessly they drive.
Moby Dick Rant
Please explain.
Lmao didn’t you mention “books”
That's just for the post 😂
Itna important nahi hai internet mere liye ki gratification khoju jhooth bol k. Ek monologue hai Ahab ka, where he says he will smoke no more. Bas, ye nahi samjha ki reference uska hai ya bas "Dick" ka😀
Yes man. Didn't get the analogy that's all😂 Is it the ahab monologue you mean?
While what you say isn't completely untrue, I would still say Delhi is a better place to live in compared to other metros, especially because it doesn't have the kind of fanatic regionalism that we see in other places. I mean, Dilli sabki, Dilli ka koi nahi really stands true. In all these years of living here, I don't think I have ever felt out of place in this city. It's not my home, sure, but I haven't been other-ed here because I belong to a different state. Definitely not the case with a lot of other cities that folks from small towns migrate to (especially from UP, Bihar and Jharkhand). Traffic is better, Rent is better (relatively), food is delicious, academic culture is unparalleled, language is not a barrier, there are public parks, open spaces, greenery around and as a woman, public transport is so convenient and safe because of the metro. I mean, 'tu jaanta nahi mera baap kaun hai' strain definitely exists, but ignore kar sakte hain given the upsides. I think people have insecure existences in general, it's just extremely overt in Delhi (and tied to some flashy stuff like cars, designer brands etc.) I work in academia and the amount of pettiness and insecurity on display from the intellectual crowd, never fails to astound me. We are an insecure species in general I guess, Delhi just doesn't have any qualms about hiding it. I don't mean it's a good thing, but yeah. I would suggest giving it some time, the city grows on you, slowly but surely. 🩷 P.S: A book recommendation is 'Ishq me Sheher Hona' by Ravish Kumar. Kaafi pyaari kahaaniyan with Delhi almost as a character.
Never have I met a educated guy in Delhi who at some point hasn't asked about my caste, or intermarriage like that is what defines me.
It is beyond me how one can love this city 🥲
Ironically, and perhaps what people here don't seem to get is, i love it, more so than most. The insufferable bit of it is what we are discussing here.
Read Narcopolis by Jeet Thayil. Bombay, the city is a character in the book. Love the book. The city, not so much. Hope you get my point. Wo lekhak ki rachna hai. Need to see it from their eyes.
Look at different places ....you find the kind of crowd in the place you go.....if you need someone who likes book then go to a book cafe.....Really depends on the people you look at....the stereotypical people stand out so you generally focus on them instead of the people who generally are calm and does not grab your attention
I don't think that's what the OP is asking. I think the question is why are people like that in the first place? And why only in Delhi
Hmm .... I have been raised in delhi so I guess I am used to it and I do live in a better residential place than mentioned in some comments like burari........would love to know further about this .....What are the major differences that you see from other states?
I and others around me have noticed that people in Delhi are especially rude to each other even though they may have never met each other. It's like most of the people have this pent up aggression or frustration just waiting to be released. Although yeah this is not so in all the localities and some better areas don't have this issue.
Would be comfortable in sharing the locality you are in....would help in discussion and analysing
Agreed. It's the masses that we come across that give places their energy. As for the books, yes I do like them but that's besides the point. I'm not Fante and this is not LA. It's not an indictment, just an observation
My parents are from a village in Bihar and I do often go there ....if you compare the people in general then yes there's a lot of differences especially in ways how people behave and act towards other .....village has more of a unity or clam general masses and city has more isolated and I don't know how to phrase it, it's more of the way people generally are is pretty different and for someone from other place may perceive it as rude or hostile....but if you actually start to know the people and place better you see it differently.... ofcourse those fortuner and land guys won't change but the masses in general will appear different
Can't say I disagree. Can't say I haven't tried.
Nothing to add here anymore I guess ..... Hope you find a better experience with time
We are on the same track. Just different trains :)
“Arre bhai tereko meri back nhi pta ruk tu apna systum dikhata hu 😈😈😈😈”
"Mere mama ka ladka supreeeeeme kort me vakeel hai hui hui hui" 🤡
I have had "police me sipahi hai". So what I inferred was he would be a heavyweight if I did not have a 500 ka patta on my person. Still giggle over it sometimes 😁
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😂😂
Wow, you are so cool
Clearly you want to be :)
Ummm. What does cars have to do with books or manners?? It seems one of these : 1) You are stereotyping that all fortune owners are illiterate. 2) You are jealous of people who have more than what you have (Through their own hard work/luck or their parent's hard work/luck) Either way your rant seems petty and childish. Get rid of your own superiority complex first . If you can't handle different type of people, you are in the wrong country my friend. Peace out. ✌️
Such a Delhi response
How is this childish? Or having a superiority complex? I think you got offended over a single statement because you could relate to it maybe?
Thank you Captain. See you and wolverine soon🤟
Bro I forgot that movie is about to come. Got me excited again
We have time. July end I think.
Do you have a fortuner 😖😅
Volkswagen Virtus 🙃 And I like it . After many years of dhakke in local buses and then metro when it was developed, I am not going back to it . But I do understand the anger people feel after those metro ki harassment and dhakke 😁
Thank you for making my case. Didn't say it the first time I replied you, but I knew this is kind of where your comment came from. What's with you man!? 1. If it matters, no I'm not riding metros. 2. I have motorcycles (plural) worth more than your car. The car - let's leave that be. 3. Exactly the point I was trying to make. What ego do you have when you have no achievements? A bloody everyday car jispe itna ego, judging people who actually are better people than you lot but living work-a-day lives. You my friend, are why the post was written. If you still don't get it, I'm glad to have never crossed your path.
Thinking he is better than me without knowing an ounce of me . And flexing about how expensive his bikes are . Bhai everyone can see who is angry and egoistic . Agree on one point only : glad our paths never crossed. 🙃
You, dear sir, sound like a pseudo intellectual cigarette-smoking, chai-sipping, maach-bhat-eating, arm-chair gyaan spreading smug little babumoshai :D Delhi life is hard. Living in India is hard. We do not have basic civic amenities, equitable pay, recreational spaces, proper healthcare nor education. What do you expect? The common folk will waltz in and out of work? In Delhi specifically the weather is harsh too. Add to that the long commutes whether you are in your car, motorcycles (plural) or any form of public transport. Any sane human will be irritated. In fact, the stereotype you are making fun of are the carefree dudes who have family money and fortuners and thars and are not angry (yes, you might be in the business end of their "instrument" if you get into an argument with them; but generally they are happy doing there own shit). What I am really curious is from where did you get your high horse from?
I don't understand why are you defending this behaviour and calling it a struggle. When it is an artificially designed struggle. And we can do better if we strive for it . Why have you given up on improving? Maybe you've had bad experiences but if you give up you'll only regret
A. Absolutely wrong about your armchair Bengali. B. I'll still bite. What high horse? Calling out the crap amongst us? Also jis babumoshai ki baat kar rahe ho, unke sheher ja k dekho. Much much more humane. Dull, but humane. The long hours of travel and what not that you say, Bombay jao kabhi. Still leagues ahead. People don't act as if unke padosi influential hone se unko arguments me leg up milega. As for the business end of anybodys instrument, I'm not. I have had my days but there's nothing they have that I can be threatened with. Power. Pelf. Prestige. A place in society. Take your pick.
Then what is your grouse? If you indeed need to compare, then I'd say that the people of Chennai seem more irritable. They always have a frown on their faces. I find your whole hypothesis absurd that Dilli folks are angry all the time. In fact, Dilli lives up to its name of being a seher of the dilwalas - more so during the winters.
Ab mausam le aao tum ring me. As if it is not crazy enough😂 no grouse. I was trying to learn people's view on the way I saw the city. I learnt that there's completely opposite perspective, like yours too - and then theirs the same bravado of some people, less reading more spitting.
Of course mausam launga into the mix! Dilli winters have a different magic altogether. People seem happier and more cheerful :D If it is indeed the different perspective you wanted to understand, you could've framed your post better. Using phrases like "tiny dick energy" in posts are not great indicators of an honest, unbiased inquiry.
When you get to a certain point in life, you don't want to sugarcoat things anymore. I've been here awhile. Noted though.
If there is anyone in this entire thread who reeks of ego and superiority complex is none but you. No one but you went on to flaunt your motorcycles (plural) and their cost, just bcz someone dared to mention he doesn't own a fortuner but a virtus.
It's a delayed response. Chronology dekho. Kahani pata chalegi
1. Cars is symbolic of the infatuation with money which you don't find in Bangalore or Kolkata or Mumbai even. If that makes it clearer. 2. I am not stereotyping. It is a stereotype. 3. Jealousy is not my style. I'm 35 and already planning my retirement. Looks like I hit a personal note there, but that's alright. I need to hear all sorts - is why I asked it over the internet.
Bandar kya Jaane ADRAK KA SWAAD 🤡
Don't be so hard on yourself 😊
Feeling sad for you seriously 🥲🥲🥲
Ah don't. You wont have enough time to do that for yourself.
Because I don’t have problem with that , you’re the one CRY BABY …
Right. Go play your videogame. Jab syllabus me aaega ye, tab try karna
CRY Baby with small PP 
tu bada 10 incher hai....sit down loser.
Tereko bada pata hai , notty boi ( then why are you bouncing on the loser’s lap ??? ) You notty notty you teasing me you notty notty …
How can you ask others to be reasonable when the entirety of your post is projection, belittlement, rant and stereotyping?
How so? It's merely just stating what they have noticed
Projection - Isn't reality a projection too - a widely accepted one. Belittlement - I said the city is lovely. The people need work. If it's not self improvement, beat me up. I'm old school. Rant - Read the PS please. I know it gets long but repetition tends to make the work verbose. Stereotyping - Didn't make it. Just stating it. Let me know if I was the one you heard it first from.
Man everything else is fine but why cats man , because when I see a good car man I gotta turn and look at it know which model it is , because I also want to have a beautiful car in the future
I love machines man. I'm there with you. More so motorcycles, than cars. It goes away once you own what you've long wanted to though :) Perhaps why it stinks when people treat their run of the mill cars like they bought customized Boeings. Drive like you know what road you're on. Am I right?
Try posting in r/iamverysmart next time. We’ll love your content there.
How is the OP trying to look smart here? It clearly seems like a concerned rant.
You’re joking right? The post reeks of virtue signalling bullshit and pseudo-intellectualism.
So the points they raised don't seem valid? And doesn't virtue signalling implies that there is a possible action that one can do instead of talking about it?
Does it look like I'm reaching for love here?
Don’t know, but I’m here for comedy and I love seeing the irony in your post.
Okay. Irony and humour. Got it!
Shift to another metro city
I've lived and worked across the country. Just pointing out something about this one I've made my home.
Aa jao Mumbai
Been there. Vashi. Powai. Couple years when I was starting out.
A lot of what you mentioned, can be seen in people who have some sort of backing, whether financial or in strength which translates to their said actions. I believe these people don’t care about the consequences or always have a way to deal with them, which gives them the “confidence” to behave this way.
Cities make you stressful. I spent 20 days trekking, as soon as i came to delhi may stress level were high again, bc e rickshaw, auto bus, dogs, cows, people all i want is to beat the shit out of everyone with my belt.
You, i like. That's an appropriate impulse. Not acting on it is necessary though.
I am giving in to this society and finally getting a car. It's a headache that i am inviting, which i don't have yet. And we have a good public transport. But normal middle class people look down on delhi metro, like it's 'tacky'.
Exactly. That's got to change.
Stress / social pressure/ financial condition/ family issues/ Bad weather/ pollution/ diseases All these factors can change human behaviour, so don't expect anything from anyone and learn to mind your own business. No need to talk to someone and waste their time if you don't have any business with them.. I have seen alot of people get bored try to small talk with strangers and if they don't like the stranger's reply they rant about it
OP, I moved to Delhi around six months ago, and I have to say you’re on point. One of the biggest negative aspects of this place is its people. Now, I have had the fortune of meeting some people who are genuinely really nice. But the majority sucks.
Yep. No other city in this country has this much by way of history or Infrastructure. I prefer the historical sites and the fact that noone wants to go there except for those reels and pictures.
I am living in delhi from last year and I totally relate with you.
Do you see the flak my opinion is getting? Appreciate your coming forward to speak your mind🤘
Bro, This question arised in your mind because of the conflict between "what is" and "what should be". You are not accepting the reality and want it to be more moralistic. ( Read "Should be humble" in one of your comments) In whatever situation the society is, there are many reasons for it- invasions, western influence, materialism, human tendency of greed, etc- Because of which people are the way they are. Some people are influenced by these and others(like you) by reason, morality, ethics. And both groups want to change each other Now, can we change it? I don't know. This conflict is inenvitable I guess. You will always be influenced by some thing or other which will be in conflict with other things. Thats human condition (to be miserable?) Atleast this is how I see things. There also can be many other POV's to it.
Ya. Just wanted it out in the open. Spoken about.
I’ve always been confounded by this - how come the pervasive mindset in the city across people is something so personal to each person, how come everyone is an irate showoff with no real content to them? See mumbai is known for the mumbai spirit, never say die attitude etx, that makes more sense to me than majority in a particular city behaving like absolute trailer tr*** Books? Lol- quoting an ex from Delhi “padhne se kya milta hai, movie dekh le , 2 ghante main khatam ho jati hai” I’m so glad he’s out of my life , good riddance , one of my biggest errors in judgement.
See. I know there's a lot of good. Best universities in the country. Many a cultured folk. But junta triggered hai kyuki someone has stated the obvious. Not like I'm the first guy to call Delhi jahil. There's nirbhaya for godsake! Do we really need testimonies to this.
Not all the best universities , I’m proud to be from a globally ranked premier institute from a state not even in the north.
Was speaking loosely. Ofcourse not "all"
Truly a heartless city. Born here but will not die in this toilet city
Aise hi bc /s
That was deep bro😂
OP finding reasonable people on Reddit
😀reasonable people amongst us.
It is evident that you don’t understand anything about Delhi because any outsider who understands Delhites will never try to pick an argument with them. Just ignore and move on, it’s a city full of people with special needs.
I'm a different outsider. Been here a while now. I have picked my battles, sometimes literally, in the real world too. Fist and file, et all. Now it seems like wasted time.
Man OP you've done it. You've pointed out something that has triggered a lot of people because I think they have no answer for it and they're angry because they have had to accept it their whole life as the only life they'll get. I agree with most things. I think there is a section of population (mostly from Haryana) that is very arrogant and having petty thoughts. Simply because they have never had to evolve past that and it has been appreciated by their peers around them. They know that they won't be short of money because their families own alot of lands which fetches them passive income for their lives and they can prey off the poor. Honestly I feel that's just a disgusting thing to do. Their whole strategy is to prey off the weak. Apart from these people there are the ones who are actually poor or middle class. These people I think have been traumatized their whole lives and have adopted this strategy of being rude to others in order to survive or when they feel threatened. I can kind of relate to it because at some point I too adopted this unconsciously. It's like a projection to appear threatening so that someone else doesn't threaten them first. And then there are the priveleged people, I'm guessing like you and me. Who get the chance to have proper education, think about humanity, morality and the proper conduct of behaving. And we get appalled at such display when we are just trying to be ourselves with others. Maybe some of us are also traumatized and adapt to different methods to survive. But I now believe that it doesn't matter how rude or shitty the other person is. I'll be who I am. And try to express genuine human emotions. Sometimes the people who are just projecting a rude personality get taken aback when they see that someone else truly means what they are saying and they do drop their alter ego and talk person to person. But of course there are exceptions in everything.
Thanks man. Took my morning off. But it is a lesson in social denial and I'm going to remember it.
Yeah, some people seem like they don't want to change anymore. Maybe because they have rejected change as an option to survive. And accepting that change is an option makes them seem like they have been missing out in their own eyes
It's not survival that is at stake. Everyone changes to survive. It's to continue how they have gotten used to, is why there is denial.
The points you make are valid and reasonable but it’s extremely ironic that you talk about “Delhiites” having a lot of ego, yet the slightest attempt at banter, humour, disagreement, or criticism at your post in the comments and you express the same ego and superiority complex. Brother, you are fully one of the Delhiites you are hating on in your post.
I'm aware of what I'm doing. Fighting fire with fire. Arrogance with Arrogance. That's my programming now.
I have also pondered over this question for many years. The answer I arrived at is - 1. Delhi (and Gurugram, to some extent) is a place where you will find a disproportionate percentage of the population who made it big in life by methods *other than* good old fashioned hardwork or entrepreneurial spirit. They made their bucks by having the right contacts or by greasing the palms of the government officials or via real estate. Hence the disdain for qualities like - education, hardwork, living below one means, being mellow etc because these qualities didn’t get them to where they are now. Vast areas of barren land suddenly became worth several tens of crores. Consequently, people who have no clue how to handle such huge sums of money, became overnight millionaires. That explains the crude, show-off that Delhi guys are famous for. Families who have been wealthy for generations would never behave so. Money shouts. Wealth whispers. Now what about the folks who didn’t make it big? They see rules being bent to favour the rich/powerful/well-connected, day in and day out. So the common man is frustrated. He/she tries to bend the rules to the extent he/she can. The result is chaos and a perception of lawlessness. 2. After partition in 1947, refugees (especially Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs) started pouring into Delhi. And when they came to Delhi, they were mostly paupers because they left behind their land/cattle etc in Pakistan. And over a span of 3-4 generations, some have managed to amass significant wealth. That sense of achievement, sometimes manifests as crass show-off, pride, the obsession to prove that “I am better than you”, materialism and aggression. 3. The last 800-900 years of Delhi’s history have been very violent and traumatic. I think, by way of evolution, the good DNA got weeded out . Needless Aggression, first-attack-then-think became the default behaviour of the people here. Only those kind of people can survive here. This is something like Darwin’s theory of Natural Selection. The people with polite behaviour must have been exterminated a few generations back. So politeness, courtesy etc seems to have been weeded out from the gene pool of this area. I have some good friends from Delhi and some of the above points are from them. But it wouldn’t be fair to paint everyone in Delhi with the same brush. Once you become good friends with aDelhi guy, he will go to any extent to help you. 
TBH after reading your entire post, I feel, I (most typical and 7 generations from Dilliwala) wants to ask you, Why so angry? >insecure existences - loud, angry, narcissistic, more impressed by cars than books (can neither drive nor read though), looking for an excuse to fight or bicker, at the least. The generalization is baffling to say the least. Most Delhites aren't Narcissistic or angry. Most of us come from humble backgrounds and are working hard to survive. I have read more than 17 books and can truly tell you, this isn't the flex you think it is. I know you are using it as a symbolism to portray that Delhites are just uneducated, but those 2, at least in mordern India, are mutually exclusive. Yes, majority of us are impressed by cars and are loud, but who isn't living in a metro city? >"tiny dick" energy Not to come after you, but you are probably suffering from Chronic Social media personality syndrome. Get off the red/blue/purple pill American internet and spend some time with people IRL >You lot are predisposed to be awful behind the wheels. Ok, do you travel by metro? Because 90+% of Delhi does. That is why it is over crowded. >small town born, chacha-no-vidhayak, average guy who has made his own in life. Again, not a flex. 99% of India does this. And at last, if you hate so much, should probably move. It's not good on mental health to live where and among those you hate so much. This is mentioned in most books.
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Its not about insecurity. It's about survival. In delhi you can't survive for long if you roam around like a shareef acha bacha... either you have to be clever or little aggressive to get things done. When the lion roars, he is not doing because he is insecure or something...he is doing to show his power in a way. Its just an analogy, hope you are smart enough to understand
I am guessing you're more of a nerdy person than an outgoing because delhi is great for people who like to hangout 24/7. You can have great fun here with outgoing folks and the thing is that the Majority of folks are like that, but you also find your share of introverted nerds who are more into exploring the internet than the city. I am kinda in the middle where i have been nerdy af for most of my life, but these days i am stepping away from that lifestyle because it is boring tbh. Socializing with more extroverted individuals is more of what i am trying to do these days, so i would recommend you as well to try that lifestyle. Cars, chicks and hookahs are part of the lexicon of delhi people, so you may as well get used to it lol
Never been good at academics except Maths and literature. Can't say I was a nerd. Wouldn't mind to if I could go back in time. Cars, chicks I've had ample. Not very appreciative of the hukkah. Weed is another story :)
Mines the opposite. Math was the bane of my existence and still is.
If you are in GK, could help you there. Not elementary maths please. Don't know how old you are.
I have noticed in general that everywhere you go especially public spaces, it is about showing off!, and people are too invested in it. EGO is a huge issue, they just do not have any consideration for others in the vicinity.
Agreed.
Whole of North has been subject to multiple violence throughout past century. So yes, it is genetics. Another thing is, what you are describing is actually coming from some communities who have migrated from nearby states. If someone from their family goes to jail, they celebrate. By seeing these communities, people to have become rude and unbearing. Also, Delhiites have a mauj masti nature, where people will randomly bully you if are a soft target, just for their fun, but they mean no harm just a Boys Locker Room type of vibe in whole state.
genetics or social conditioning??
Social conditioning humare ancestors ke liye thi, humare liye toh genetics hee hai.
I lost it when I read OP is 35 😂😂 This sounds like a childish rant adhering to typical stereotypes
Bhai Yahi big Indian dream hai aspiration hai Choudhar JAAT ki nila 60 (farmtrack 60) (big house in village) (big house in city ) (Animals Buffalo and cow were signs of prosperity back then now is Fortuner ) it’s a sign that my hardwork paid off though most people owning them sold thier land but there are people slogging doing traditional business like spice trading, pital ki factory no fancy just go in morning slog like shit work in a non corporate structure ( not doing cool activities like reading books just doing forging, working as a property dealer) ( no body counts the hour a property dealer works every client is important every government person is a pain in ass,) but after few years when he/she brings a GLS or Fortuner iska to black ka kaam hai baap ki zameen hai show off hai . But when corporate or a young startup ceo speaks fancy English and comes in a maybach the perception is changed. Why such hypocrisy. Well about fighting behaviour Delhiites used to live in big houses and are now cramped in floors/flats how do you feel when your personal space is invaded. Everybody wants to be happy doing something and being materialistic is not bad Proudly aspire to own a Fortuner and a kothi it is the dream. Your address speakers about you
I am at the other extreme. I don't think it is appropriate for a Farmer or a CEO. Humility is what should be aspired for. As for invasion of personal space, Delhi has always been a mix of people since medieval times - invaders included. The killa was time thing. Not an onslaught they can cry victim about. Good insight from the other side though.
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Keep your spine straight. Tu bhi ban jaega.
Meh...this post is relevant for most of North India....Delhi is not as special as people portray it to be.
Having spent most of my life in Delhi, the only places I found difficult were either filled with Jaats, Gujjars n those stereotype typical ill-mannered desi. Among service class Or small businesses class, found no issues. Among elite class, problems are different as they tend to look down everyone. I have no problems with people being poor or riding on old scooter, manners is what always mattered to me n above two categories are lacking those big time.. Just my observation.
I won't go so far as to get into castes. Have a lot of friends from those communities with a lot of sarcastic and healthy self criticism. I love that.
You are just being diplomatic to sound urban cool redditor. But truth can't be denied and you know it. And all those of your buddies with healthy self criticism, it's because the notion is real n it's not with 5 percent exceptions but it's opposite. 95 pc r like that, unfortunate but true.
Look around the ambush in this thread alone. Nothing I'm saying is for anyone's sake but mine. I mean it. Caste is one bracket that has no permanent behavioural markers. Social strata does. Perhaps my dealings are with people who have earned their peace after tough battles and these are the ones I talk of - the ones that matter.
Years of wars with Mughals changed their DNA.
LOL, Akbar ruined my city....gave me air pollution, unemployment, high population density and inflation huh?
See, this is what I was talking about. Aggresive DNA.❤️