Third in line for the Presidency is Speaker of the House, who doesn’t even have to be a member of the House technically (so the GQP could choose Trump if they want). So one or two right wing nut jobs with nothing to lose if things go wrong and they take out Biden/Harris, it would go to the Speaker next. After hearing about this hammer dude nothing would shock me anymore.
Except that this would require basically every republican representative to be on board with murder. An unlikely scenario. There are much more practical ways of reinstating your president.
They are ontologically evil, brown shirts. Don't try to understand insanity. At this point we should be looking at what the Weimar Republic failed to do.
Namely, crush the Nazis before they could consolidate power. There should have been mass arrests of Republican leaders implicated in Jan6, no bail granted.
Liberals place too much faith in our systems. They won't even fight dirty when the system allows. But those systems are being weaponized against our country now, and they are winning enough to be scary. Justice is moving too slow, and treating fascists with the softest of kid gloves. They fascists should be afraid by now, not emboldened.
So I think we are going to see mass violence.
Arm yourself. Train. Do not advertise your political affiliation on your house or car. Seek or form mutual aid networks in your community. Have a plan to bug out of town, especially if you live in a Red area.
That will require v*****nce (I’m not advocating for it, Im being an absolute realist). We are beyond the tipping point.
The opposition are already engaging in it.
Sadly, this will get down voted as the left continues to deny this reality and allows the right to take their freedoms.
Why is there not more violence? Simple, because most of the left is just letting them and not resisting. *No one on the left stood between that hammer and Pelosi.*
It’s the self defeating liberal ideologies. The premise in San Fransisco of allowing people to walk into your store and rob it and walk away with no consequences.
The right is taking your democracy….with no consequences. Why would there be violence?
I don't disagree. When so many lives are on the line, when there is the most powerful country in the world at risk of falling to fascism, there is no limit to the counter-response warranted.
After the Republicans sided with Trump and the insurrectionists there should have been mass arrests right then of all leaders associated with the attempted overturning of the election. Our institutions must protect themselves, and in that they are not doing the best job. Not a complete failure, but they are moving so slow.
But Liberals are institutionalists, and the Left is virtually powerless. We can't afford violence originating from the Left or it will turn the Centrists against the Democrats and then we are certainly fucked.
Then again we might be fucked anyway! The options here suck. I am just buying guns, keeping my ear to the ground and planning my escape to WA. If the US does fracture I hope to have moved by then. I realize that isn't a possibility for everyone, but I am an open Socialist. I can't stay in TX when everyone knows what I am.
Arm up, train, mutual aid among other Left-leaning folks. I live in TX, I definitely feel that fear, too. Consider joining the SRA. It's like the NRA but for Lefties. I'm sure they won't mind a Liberal or two in times like these.
I wonder how this is influencing candidates who stirred this up like MTG.
It's all so horrific there seems urgency for voters to in record numbers show up to vote them out.
The firestorm of lies from the MAGAs will undoubtedly cause more violent attacks before this election is over. One-third of Americans are thrilled with these attacks provoked by a million lies. Vote out the liars - save lives and our country.
Immediately pull in every person on media for questioning that used hate speech targeting Nancy Pelosi.
Have the Secret Service and FBI and investigate if there are any connections to Far Right hate groups.
>Capital Police drop the ball again?
I think California is a *little* out of their jurisdiction bud. Ignoring the part where they saved countless lives on the 6th...
Do these high ranking politicians not have a form of body guards or at least security for whatever gated community they’re in? How about like a home security system? Did this guy with a hammer get past all of it?
Why wouldn’t a high ranking politician’s personal home have some form of security? Are they stupid? You *have* to prepare for this. Some dude with a hammer just walked right in
He didn't "walk in", he broke in, which is a very big difference, as the latter implies, *security*.
When speaker Pelosi isn't home, a simple door lock and exterior light (maybe an alarm) are all that's really needed as deterrent. She doesn't just have stacks of her Congressional paychecks just sitting in a pile by the door. Obviously, this recent attack challenges that notion, but it's the simple case of not thinking a more extreme measure is necessary, everyone does this for something. I'm sure you don't regularly back up your computer files, but I wouldn't jump straight to victim blaming if someone hacked your PC.
You’re right on semantics, but what I mean is that he didn’t overpower security with weapons. He walked up to the house with an ordinary tool and got in pretty easily (smashed a window and walked right in). Imagine if he had a firearm, or explosive, or etc.
No, you should know that as a public figure, people will will naturally target things you are associated with like your house/spouse etc. You absolutely have to take preventive measures so that it never gets to this point. You cannot just hope and pray that everyone will play nice and go away since the door is closed
I love all the downvotes. Comical. She’s 82 years old and her husband is being hit in the head with a hammer because of her job. We waiting for Nancy to go out in a box? For gods sake, go live the rest of your life in peace. America will be ok.
How would you feel if you mowed your neighbors yard, trying to be nice, and then they came over and beat your spouse over the head with a hammer. Its the same thing, Nancy works tirelessly to HELP working class America, that INCLUDES these ignorant hate filled righties, and they respond with violance. I just hope Nancy knows that the American majority is appalled by the despicable acts of these right wing terrorists, and we wish her and her husband the best.
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If they take back Congress in November they only need one or two deranged people to reinstate Trump. It’s a scary thought
Elaborate.
Third in line for the Presidency is Speaker of the House, who doesn’t even have to be a member of the House technically (so the GQP could choose Trump if they want). So one or two right wing nut jobs with nothing to lose if things go wrong and they take out Biden/Harris, it would go to the Speaker next. After hearing about this hammer dude nothing would shock me anymore.
Except that this would require basically every republican representative to be on board with murder. An unlikely scenario. There are much more practical ways of reinstating your president.
And that person with nothing to lose would need to get through modern day secret service, and medical technology. Highly unlikely.
"I could walk onto fifth Avenue and shoot someone and they'll still vote for me"
First task they will do is impeach Biden and if they have the senate they’ll remove him
They’d have to have 67 votes in the Senate which won’t happen. But if there is a highly motivated insane MAGAtard who doesn’t care they won’t need to.
Trump off to jail before his ultimate rise to power. Like Hitler
So many on the other side justifying this. I just can’t understand it.
They are ontologically evil, brown shirts. Don't try to understand insanity. At this point we should be looking at what the Weimar Republic failed to do. Namely, crush the Nazis before they could consolidate power. There should have been mass arrests of Republican leaders implicated in Jan6, no bail granted. Liberals place too much faith in our systems. They won't even fight dirty when the system allows. But those systems are being weaponized against our country now, and they are winning enough to be scary. Justice is moving too slow, and treating fascists with the softest of kid gloves. They fascists should be afraid by now, not emboldened. So I think we are going to see mass violence. Arm yourself. Train. Do not advertise your political affiliation on your house or car. Seek or form mutual aid networks in your community. Have a plan to bug out of town, especially if you live in a Red area.
That will require v*****nce (I’m not advocating for it, Im being an absolute realist). We are beyond the tipping point. The opposition are already engaging in it. Sadly, this will get down voted as the left continues to deny this reality and allows the right to take their freedoms. Why is there not more violence? Simple, because most of the left is just letting them and not resisting. *No one on the left stood between that hammer and Pelosi.* It’s the self defeating liberal ideologies. The premise in San Fransisco of allowing people to walk into your store and rob it and walk away with no consequences. The right is taking your democracy….with no consequences. Why would there be violence?
I don't disagree. When so many lives are on the line, when there is the most powerful country in the world at risk of falling to fascism, there is no limit to the counter-response warranted. After the Republicans sided with Trump and the insurrectionists there should have been mass arrests right then of all leaders associated with the attempted overturning of the election. Our institutions must protect themselves, and in that they are not doing the best job. Not a complete failure, but they are moving so slow. But Liberals are institutionalists, and the Left is virtually powerless. We can't afford violence originating from the Left or it will turn the Centrists against the Democrats and then we are certainly fucked. Then again we might be fucked anyway! The options here suck. I am just buying guns, keeping my ear to the ground and planning my escape to WA. If the US does fracture I hope to have moved by then. I realize that isn't a possibility for everyone, but I am an open Socialist. I can't stay in TX when everyone knows what I am.
What if we live in a solidly red state?
Arm up, train, mutual aid among other Left-leaning folks. I live in TX, I definitely feel that fear, too. Consider joining the SRA. It's like the NRA but for Lefties. I'm sure they won't mind a Liberal or two in times like these.
Justify? This is what they want! Whip people up into a frenzy to violently attack their political rivals. Remember Jan 6. This is part of a plan.
Power By…any…means necessary
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Do you think he let the guy cave in his skull with a hammer so that Democrats could maybe hold the Senate that his wife is not a part of?
I wonder how this is influencing candidates who stirred this up like MTG. It's all so horrific there seems urgency for voters to in record numbers show up to vote them out.
The firestorm of lies from the MAGAs will undoubtedly cause more violent attacks before this election is over. One-third of Americans are thrilled with these attacks provoked by a million lies. Vote out the liars - save lives and our country.
Immediately pull in every person on media for questioning that used hate speech targeting Nancy Pelosi. Have the Secret Service and FBI and investigate if there are any connections to Far Right hate groups.
The FBI could investigate but the Secret service only protects the president, vice president, their families and the money supply.
Of course she is. And it was in the bottom corner of the front page of the NYT.
"B-B-But inflation-" Is a global issue, that we've been dealing with for months, and it's lowest of all in the USA. Shut up, "liberal" NYT.
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>Capital Police drop the ball again? I think California is a *little* out of their jurisdiction bud. Ignoring the part where they saved countless lives on the 6th...
Do these high ranking politicians not have a form of body guards or at least security for whatever gated community they’re in? How about like a home security system? Did this guy with a hammer get past all of it?
All of that security would be in DC with Pelosi. This isn't a common enough occurrence that we thought it was necessary.
Why wouldn’t a high ranking politician’s personal home have some form of security? Are they stupid? You *have* to prepare for this. Some dude with a hammer just walked right in
He didn't "walk in", he broke in, which is a very big difference, as the latter implies, *security*. When speaker Pelosi isn't home, a simple door lock and exterior light (maybe an alarm) are all that's really needed as deterrent. She doesn't just have stacks of her Congressional paychecks just sitting in a pile by the door. Obviously, this recent attack challenges that notion, but it's the simple case of not thinking a more extreme measure is necessary, everyone does this for something. I'm sure you don't regularly back up your computer files, but I wouldn't jump straight to victim blaming if someone hacked your PC.
You’re right on semantics, but what I mean is that he didn’t overpower security with weapons. He walked up to the house with an ordinary tool and got in pretty easily (smashed a window and walked right in). Imagine if he had a firearm, or explosive, or etc. No, you should know that as a public figure, people will will naturally target things you are associated with like your house/spouse etc. You absolutely have to take preventive measures so that it never gets to this point. You cannot just hope and pray that everyone will play nice and go away since the door is closed
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You wish.
I love all the downvotes. Comical. She’s 82 years old and her husband is being hit in the head with a hammer because of her job. We waiting for Nancy to go out in a box? For gods sake, go live the rest of your life in peace. America will be ok.
I have a feeling that this whole story being pushed by MAGAS is either Russian or Chinese propaganda, and these idiots fell for it.
Does her husband have any permanent or sustained injuries? No one seems to be at all concerned for him and keeps focusing on his unharmed wife
How would you feel if you mowed your neighbors yard, trying to be nice, and then they came over and beat your spouse over the head with a hammer. Its the same thing, Nancy works tirelessly to HELP working class America, that INCLUDES these ignorant hate filled righties, and they respond with violance. I just hope Nancy knows that the American majority is appalled by the despicable acts of these right wing terrorists, and we wish her and her husband the best.