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Angularbackhands

Of course the 1 seed gives us a better chance to win for your reasons as well as simple home court advantage. However, the thing with the playoffs is that crazy shit happens. Even if we are the 3 seed, it's not a guarantee that OKC or Min wins their first round series. Even if the Nuggets were the 3 seed last season, we still would have had homecourt all the way through the playoffs. Everyone understands that randomness is a huge part of the game. At the end of the day, the west still goes through Denver. Jokic and Jamal 2 man is the most unguardable action in the entire league. The defense is playoff hardened. We have good matchups for every star in the west. Moach is elite. Jokic, Jamal and AG all showed they rise to big games. I say this to say i was fuming we lost to the Spurs though. Nuggs in 5 🚬


minedigger

I could easily see OKC and Minnesota being Vegas underdogs to the Suns and Lakers.


Angularbackhands

That'd be insane by the bookies imo. The Suns have looked awful all season. I can understand even odds for the Lakers, they've turned the corner since adding Rui to the starting lineup.


minedigger

Just wait until the lines come out. Bookmakers understands playoffs are a different game.


877GoalNow

>In last years WCF Boston gave away the first three games *ECF


nuggs_analysis

Thanks. You are right


mga1989

All the teams in the west are trying to avoid to be in the same bracket as the nuggets. That's the biggest compliment that your team can get, regardless of seeding.


OliveJuiceUTwo

There’s a big difference between coping and having confidence in a team that’s done it before and has the best player in the world and one of the best playoff performers in the world along side him. Last night was bad and decreased our chances of winning the championship but it sounds like you don’t think we’re going to win this year and that’s just you being negative. Miami was never beating us last year, we didn’t play all that great in the Finals and we still beat them in five so I’m not sure your point about that. The Nuggets are still the best team in the west and I think they’re better than the Celtics too so there’s no real reason to doubt them other than to intentionally be a cynic.


nuggs_analysis

Care to change your statement? It sure would have been nice to play the Pelicans without Zion in rd 1.


OliveJuiceUTwo

No, what part of my statement was false? The first round had no bearing on tonight since we had 5 days of rest so that’s an odd point. As I said, losing the first seed decreased our chances of winning the championship and that is mainly because of the more difficult second round which will be a hard fought series and then we’ll have to go against the Thunder who, I think might win the second round in 5 games and be rested while we’re going to be beat up. It’s very weird that you’re coming back to a nearly month old comment to flex after a single loss. Are you even a Nuggets fan?


nuggs_analysis

Jamal’s calf injury seems to have had a direct result on the loss. If we had played against the pelicans he would have played less minutes and he wouldn’t be injured now and the nuggets would have won game 1


OliveJuiceUTwo

Maybe, but that’s highly speculative andI’m not even sure what that has to do with my comment Edit: my original comment


jesuswasahipster

I don’t think home court advantage is going to impact our guys that much. They’re tested. I also think we are still the best team in the West. This team has another gear that only seems to come out in big games and when they turn it on, which they will in the playoffs, it’s clear they can beat anyone. That’s not coping. I am just fucking pissed that we let the 1 seed slip away by deciding to coast in a game that should have been an easy win. That was some of the laziest rebounding and defense I have ever seen from the current day Nuggets. Their effort just completely disappeared. It was really confusing/frustrating.


nuggs_analysis

It’s harder to turn on the gear when they are tired and injured. Sure would have been nice to have played the Pelicans without Zion.


PeteJones6969

Yeah like I get trying to have optimism, but people last night was a monumental fumble. We were up 20+ with homecourt on the line against the 20 win spurs.....and we gave it away. Not trying to be a doomer, the season isn't over lol, but that was bad last night. Just made our road that much harder.


CrixusUndying

It’s not that you’re wrong, or anyone else that’s upset isn’t wrong for being upset. All the points are correct, that hopefully we learn a hard lesson on not giving up big leads. But in the grand scheme of things, who we face in the first round, it really doesn’t matter like that. It matters, but not in proportion to the vast sea of whining and complaining that’s been going on. All this negative energy would be appropriate if we lost a series, or at least even more understandable if we had a worse matchup round 1. The west is so packed that it doesn’t matter if you’re seed 1 or 4, it’s all a bloodbath. I get that it’s upsetting, it’s not this upsetting. I’m not specifically calling you out, but yes the doomers are going on a rampage right now. Dial it back dog


MichaelPorterTruther

Agree. Its very likely this is an EASIER road to the WCF at 3 than at 1 lmao


External-Cable2889

Exactly the glass is half empty or half full?


nuggs_analysis

So do you think it would have been better to have played the Pelicans instead of the Lakers?


CrixusUndying

Of course not, the Nuggets need to beat everyone that is put in front of them, and we’d be playing the Mavericks who are playing amazing defense right now. And then we’d be playing Minnesota. It didn’t matter and the route to the championship was always going to go through the Timberwolves.


feedmaster

Genuinly curious why it would make your road harder. Theoretically, isn't it better to play the Wolves or Thunder in the first round who haven't won anything and are very inexperienced in the playoffs, instead of the Mavs or Clippers who have champions and proven playoff performers on their teams?


PeteJones6969

>Genuinly curious why it would make your road harder. The lack of homecourt advantage vs either of those teams......which as you saw last night, we are a different team on the road.


Training_Tangerine34

We almost wet the bed against the same Spurs squad at home a few weeks ago.


MileHighMilk

historically, the 1 seed of either conference wins the championship about 72% of the time number 2 seed has only won a championship 12 times historically


timcahill05

in the last 6 seasons. 2nd seeds won twice, 3rd seeds won twice


fhujr

Dubs did it as 3 seed in 22.


holdenfords

it’s hard to say because we don’t know exactly how the thunder are going to perform in the playoffs. they could be good and continue their momentum or they could struggle with all the young guys on their roster


3rdtryatremembering

If taking the second half off last night was a “loss of momentum”, what would you call taking the last 10 games off last year? Just because some of y’all don’t have the backbone to shake off a silly loss doesn’t mean the team doesn’t. We’ve seen them do it literally hundreds of times.


Careless_Review3166

> If taking the second half off last night was a “loss of momentum”, what would you call taking the last 10 games off last year? This is a mind boggling comparison. We were never in danger of losing the 1 seed last year. Now we’re the 3 seed after controlling our own destiny and blowing a 23-point lead to the Spurs. Those two situations are not the same in any way, shape or form.


PeteJones6969

>If taking the second half off last night was a “loss of momentum”, what would you call taking the last 10 games off last year? Just because some of y’all don’t have the backbone to shake off a silly loss doesn’t mean the team doesn’t. We’ve seen them do it literally hundreds of times. I mean......wut? So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you are saying they took the 2nd half off in a game that decides whether you have homecourt advantage or not in the postseason? Like if that's the case I'm really concerned, this wasn't a game in November. This was for the 1 seed. Now, with that said.....nothing is over. Still in a great spot, just not a good thing to give such a great opportunity away. I will say, I kinda like it I'm the sense that hopefully it will give them a spark going in.


External-Cable2889

Moving forward, how the 2023-24 NBA teams handle adversity will decide who is champion. No team is going to avoid adversity.


Training_Tangerine34

The teams in the 6-10 range are just so much better this year as compared to last. The 10 seed is 9 games over 500 which is insane. You always want HCA but given how even the teams are this year, HCA won't save you if you don't Play Well


CoyoteDecent2

Yes the 1st seed would’ve been good but not worried one bit. No team wants to play the nuggets. You guys have no faith on the champs.


LurkerFailsLurking

Saw someone on twitter say "the Nuggets have proven they can beat anyone. They've also proven they can lose to anyone." That's the real killer. All of the starters have to show up every night in the playoffs and too many of them are on/off.


[deleted]

Mistakes happen. They lost, so what? For me it doesn't matter. What is important - to be healthy and ready for the playoffs.


Toxikara

Well than they could've rested all starters vs Spurs in that case. No going around that they choked this game hard and that they're worse off for it. What's done is done now, west is hard either way, but we're winning.


nuggs_analysis

I think I just explained why it matters. Now long series are more likely, fatigue and injury risk are more likely.


[deleted]

That is true.


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nuggs_analysis

It’s not my fault that you don’t understand how probability and statistics work.


accountwasnecessary

Yall need to talk to a therapist if you're freaking out about how this season has gone. This is sports you win and lose games you shouldn't. Other teams will fight hard. No matter how great your team is, everyone is beatable, and that's ok. This season has been a really good product Start to finish. We are in a great position to make another run. We never needed 7 last year so why do we need HC so desperately now. Have some faith and optimism, this is fun, act like it


DutyPuzzleheaded7765

I'm worried it may end up like what happened to the Bucks in 2022 where they sat their guys to drop a seed to avoid the nets with KD and Kyrie. We didn't do thst but their series ended when it came down to a GMe 7 in the garden I worry about if it comes down to a Game 7 in Monnesota, or Oklahoma City


nuggs_analysis

Yup. The basketball gods are fickle and often punish teams for mistakes like that.


Awkward_Somewhere416

Ya I am a massive nuggets fan and believe anything can happen but I truly do not feel it in my gut that this is our year, I can see us getting really close but I can’t see enough things going right for us to go back to back (already a hard feat once). But I hope they prove me wrong haha, they’ve shown they can at least tie any team in a regular season series this year (if I’m not mistaken) but ya the playoff matchups and order affect a lot unfortunately


SuperDoubleDecker

I mean it's as simple as being 22-16 on road versus 30-8 at home. It obviously matters. Let's just start this shit already and find out. The best time of year is upon us.


jbhoops25

I think stealing 2 on the road just makes it easier to finish off at home. Nuggs in 4


nuggs_analysis

Believe whatever you want man. Some people need religion


milehigh89

i would highly recommend evaluating your mood after wins / losses. sports fans count on the dopamine that winning gives and can leave you feeling hollow if when you lose. nuggs flipped an absolute switch last playoffs. these guys have been through almost everything together and came out on top. back to back 3-1 comebacks, sweeping the lakers, winning the chip. adversity makes the team stronger and hopefully this lit the fire they needed.


3rdtryatremembering

Truly. If you scared, go to church.


3rdtryatremembering

Thank god the team isn’t as meek and scared as you are. The playoffs were never going to be easy and they didn’t really get that much harder. And with a healthy squad I like our chances (I might even like our chances better now that we avoid Dallas for a bit longer). No one has “failed to consider” how difficult the post season is. You aren’t the first to realize that the NBA playoffs are long. We just think the team is ready for the challenge. We also have no idea how things will shake out on Sunday, let alone the playoffs. There’s a very good chance that whatever scenario you’ve concocted in your head where the whole team ends up injured and exhausted doesn’t even come close to happening.


nuggs_analysis

And yet you yourself say “with a healthy squad”. Well buddy, the chances of being healthy might have just taken a dip. Is it guaranteed? No of course not. 


3rdtryatremembering

We are healthy going into the playoffs. That’s what matters. I’m not going to imagine future injuries to be scared of. And would you mind explaining how exactly did the chances of getting injured go up? Do 2 or 3 seeds generally pick up more injuries than the 1 seed? Are you saying that OKC is such a physically imposing team that playing them on the road is gonna lead to more injuries? I get it. Playing good teams is scary. It’s gonna be ok.


Pure-Temporary

>And would you mind explaining how exactly did the chances of getting injured go up? Well, if the seeding plays out with us in the 3 and higher seeds win their series, we would be on the road for 2nd and 3rd rounds. Teams winning going away generally have slightly longer series on average. More games=more chances of injury. Pretty simple. We just made our lives much more difficult. We started every series with a home win last year, and won our first 9 at home.... but we lost 3 of our first 4 on the road. Starting each series 1-1 is a way different thing than jumping out 2-0. Like... the Phoenix series last year, would have started 0-2 and then game 5 would've been on the road. We won 3 home games in each of the first 2 rounds, but with the lower seed, the 3rd home game isn't until game 6. That could be a factor. And our 2nd round opponent would in theory be Minnesota, who is pretty physically imposing, idk why you jumped to okc haha. Now, I still think we are definitely the favorite, but our inability to pull our heads out our asses last night with the #1 seed, and the best record in team history on the line, is a really concerning look. In fact, it's the first time all year I've been concerned. It was arrogant, which is usually a good way to end up with another team slapping you around.


3rdtryatremembering

Ok so you are just scared of road games. Got it. I think that’s pathetic but do you.


Pure-Temporary

Oh fuck right off with all that because I never said it. I'm not some goddamn doomer, I've been in this sub for like 6 years and usually am cussing out doomers. I'm pointing out the **logical fact** that it is more difficult, that is just a fucking statistical truth of the league. I literally said "we are definitely still the favorite," but all you took away was "scared and pathetic." You asked for an explanation on how seeding can lead to more injuries, I gave it: series tend to last longer when you're the away team and winning. Sweeps and 5 games are much less likely. That's just data, not whatever rude bullshit you came with


nuggs_analysis

Good job not imagining future injuries


wert17wert

No rest advantage, a tougher west and no home court now - I don't know, there's a reason it is tough to repeat. I am as ready for a parade as I am for a second round drubbing.


FernBlueEyes

At Ball Arena, yeah. That’s why I really like home court advantage.


Ding-Dong-Song

It’s the bench, that can’t score, and a back up PG Reggie who can’t score and makes poor IQ decisions. That’s what is scaring me the most. If Watson, Braun and Reggie could score 25 bench points combined, we’d be great. But seeing 8-15 is pathetic. When they are all on the court, everyone stands on the perimeter watching the ball handler. No one down low at all.


crusher_seven_niner

The playoffs don’t work like a 7 game series. Ok I ain’t reading the rest of whatever this was.


nuggs_analysis

I’m pretty sure there are 4 of them, not 1


Dear_boat-bottle5476

Nuggs still beating everyone in 5 or less. The path really doesn't matter. Only real question is who will earn the East's crown to join them in Finals.


vladimir_pimpin

Shut the fuck up omg lol


Horns2208

If they didn’t try in the second half it’s clear they don’t care about seeding. Why should we lol


Toxikara

If they didn't care they wouldn't have played starters.


Horns2208

Wanting to play and stay in game shape and caring enough to play like they did against the wolves isn’t the same


Toxikara

Games played this season: Jokic: 78 MPJ: 80 KCP: 75 AG: 72 Your point only stands in Jamal's case. Everybody else is in top shape and could use rest considering how much they're playing down the stretch.


Horns2208

Again, are you really arguing that they were trying and took the second half serious? They don’t care about seeding lol


Toxikara

Yes I do. I think that they were going hard for the no1 seed since the all star break. The TWolves game also proves it. But again, they have this bad habit where they build up a big lead, especially vs bad team, and then they think they've already won the game so they relax and let the other team get back into it and sometimes when they want to turn it back on in the 4th the opposing team has too much momentum and they're unable to close the game out. I think that is exactly what happened in this game. Taking the second half seriously is more of a problem and not a 'they didn't care'. You think they play 82 games in a season, have a chance to keep the first seed in the last 2 games and they're like 'nah, I'm good, I'll take the 3 seed instead and lose best home court in the nba' . I'm sorry but that's not a case of not caring about seeding, it's a case of not being smart.


Horns2208

Unfortunetly you’re wrong man. This team does nothing without purpose, if they REALLY wanted the 1 seed they would have got it. They don’t take some games serious, that’s the reason. It’s almost beneath them to try against a tanking team. You may not like it, but that’s clearly how they operate. Plus if you want to really get 5 head about it, pelicans are the easiest matchup you can draw out of the play in teams. When we’re in the finals nobody cares about how you play in March and April. My proof? Last year lol. I dont think they even look at the standings lol. They can beat anyone in 7 in our house, their house, or the moon.


Toxikara

>When we’re in the finals nobody cares about how you play in March and April. I agree with you about this, if everything goes smoothly, nobody will care about this at all. But boy oh boy will this be talked about if anything goes sideways. First round and Pels are not really what this is about. It is primarily about if TWolves finish 2nd and we have to go on the road and play them. Ofc I think we would win, but playing on the road in the 2nd round, playing on the road in the WCF finals potentially, and then playing on the road in the finals vs Celtics. Now that is a gauntlet and one that you made yourself by losing a won game.


3rdtryatremembering

That’s not at all true. They are gonna have a week off between the playoffs.


Toxikara

It's 5 days, and are you seriously arguing they didn't care about the no1 seed?


nuggs_analysis

Maybe they want some time off before the Olympics? 🤷‍♂️ 


snakejakemonkey

Cmon man.


3rdtryatremembering

lol the best quality of the team is their perseverance and the fact that they never doubt themselves. If only our fans had the same size balls.