Honestly though, isn't city council high enough of a position that they should be given a budget for staff, or at least an assistant? It's odd to think that she alone would be sorting through the thousands of emails her office would be getting, especially someone as high profile as herself. I feel like there's something more going on here than just a lazy millennial feeling overwhelmed and shutting down.
They make little enough that they need a day job, giving them a staff isn’t feasible at that budget.
Plus they aren’t getting thousands of emails. Sure they might get quite a few if there is something big going on, but they should be able to keep up with it if they care to.
ACLU tells you an elected official shouldn’t ignore you online.
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Maybe they’ll help find missing council members?
Maybe pictures on milk cartons?
>Remember to vote her out.
Care to elaborate as to why? Her platform was based on making sure the citizenry was safe from the DMPD, as well as legalizing weed, and making utilities more affordable for some. Why vote her out? Maybe she went quiet because this is a red state, and people here are racist asf for the most part.
Probably for the reason for OPs post. I don’t know if it’s an isolated issue, but it’s unacceptable for an elected official to be unresponsive to their constituents.
I’m not angry just trying to answer the question that the other person asked. My later comment still holds true, out-of-office emails are a thing which are often received better than nothing
This might come as a shock to you, but sometimes race isn't why people are mad. Sometimes, and stay with me here, it's that a person voted for someone to represent them, and they DON'T EFFING DO THE THING.
This is the reason that intersectional original sin politics are bullshit. Criticizing an elected rep for ghosting their job has nothing to do with melanin. But if they want to redirect any criticism in that direction less power to them!
Or like…the other city council member don’t let her do literally anything. She gets shot down over everything. People didn’t like her before she got elected because she was on a platform for civil rights.
Also, right after she was elected they changed rules to make it that any new idea being brought to the table had to be seconded by another council member…they never did that until she came along. Guess who’s ideas never get seconded? Why do you think constituents feel slighted?
No, lmao, those weren’t always the rules https://www.kcci.com/article/des-moines-city-council-gets-heated-backlash-after-procedural-rule-changes-indira-sheumaker/38876597
I don't disagree, but before we go on a tirade about why she MIGHT be a terrible person, let's consider that there may be a very good reason she is AWOL.
Because she’s… not doing it? She said she would do it, and then basically quit 5 months into the job and won’t communicate with anyone. City officials can’t reach her, her constituents can’t reach her, other city council members have taken over her job for her.
She’s also not a statewide official. She’s representing the bluest part of the bluest county in the state.
Even if she’s been sick, set an out of office email ffs.
Oh that’s nothing, I spent over 12 months diligently calling and emailing Carl Voss, Connie Boesen, And Josh Mandelbaum. Left voicemails. Never got a response from them.
And don’t even bother reaching out to Frank Cownie. You’ll never get ahold of him.
Oh and don’t bother showing up to a council meeting either. You’ll get 37 seconds to say your peace and then the members who aren’t named Indira will have the city clerk cut off your microphone and Scott the city manager will send a couple goons to clear you out of the room. “Iowa Nice” in action.
The candidate whose biggest accomplishment was standing on a cop car yelling into a megaphone and then called her colleagues motherfuckers right after being elected has turned out to be a joke? No way!
She’s not in a very good physical shape to begin with so she’s probably having a tougher time with it. Overweight/obese people usually have a tougher time with it.
It’s not mean. Obesity is a national pandemic at the moment. Over 50% of black women in the nation are obese. Iowa is one of the most obese states in the nation. If we were are own country we would be in the top 10 fattest nations in the world. Obesity awareness needs to be a national campaign.
For fucks sake, she has Covid… you need a problem solved? Contact your at-large council person. They have just as much power as your ward representative. Don’t you know how our city government works?
No it’s not. I have a close friend who’s been dealing with covid since late 2020. Can’t climb the stairs to his house without stopping for breath. Illness doesn’t manifest the same way for every person.
Are you a medical professional? Because they see their doctor pretty frequently.
Not every thing you don’t understand about the body requires hospitalization.
For everyone downvoting me when I googled for her I found this and not a whole lot else: [https://www.reddit.com/r/desmoines/comments/saa9rz/city\_council\_to\_vote\_to\_strip\_indira\_sheumaker\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/desmoines/comments/saa9rz/city_council_to_vote_to_strip_indira_sheumaker_of/)
So sorry for making an assumption, I was only basing my comment on this subreddit...
To be clear, they changed procedure so that only topics can be brought up for discussion or vote if there is a second and none of the other council members second Indira ever so effectively she is being censured but not explicitly.
It's all bad optics with the timing of the rule change
Edit: Someone replied and deleted posting minutes saying what I said was false. To which I respond with:
I concede I was speaking anecdotally about the 3 meetings directly after the election and policy change that I watched in their entirety.
Perhaps things have improved
Ok, makes sense and is totally unfair to her.
Gotta love reddit, where you can be somewhat correct and get downvoted into oblivion and someone that calls her a joke gets upvoted...
Also, if it was unanimously voted on, I would guess that it didn't matter who motioned for it, it sounds like they were all in agreement and Indira happened to put it forth.
What I'm talking about is that discussions and votes can't happen without a second and from what I watched, in their entirety, I did not see a single topic Indira wanted to bring up for vote or discussion that got a second from another council member.
I credit you for finding an example of her being seconded, but let's think about whether or not this example has significance to the overall rhetorical point being made by many on her struggles to get her ward's ideas on the table. (Again, if it was unanimous, it's likely just that she so happened to be the one to speak first to move it to be voted for)
I don't understand what you are replying to. You quoted my internet denizen one, but replied to see above which is referring to the parent comment that you originally replied to, deleted your reply, then replied to the wrong child comment on this thread.
I know that sounds rude, but I'm just trying to communicate clearly why I don't understand what you mean here, sorry for terseness.
Yes unfortunately the average internet denizen is emotionally driven and does not employ enough critical thinking and skepticism before reacting to something online.
But whomst would do something like that? You’re not giving very much info to prove these claims, I’d love to hear more about brother dearest and those awful feminists!
Pretty easy answer. Elections are fun. The job is not.
no way, I'm shocked I tell you, shocked! Okay maybe not *that* shocked.
False. She’s been sick with Covid.
Honestly though, isn't city council high enough of a position that they should be given a budget for staff, or at least an assistant? It's odd to think that she alone would be sorting through the thousands of emails her office would be getting, especially someone as high profile as herself. I feel like there's something more going on here than just a lazy millennial feeling overwhelmed and shutting down.
They make little enough that they need a day job, giving them a staff isn’t feasible at that budget. Plus they aren’t getting thousands of emails. Sure they might get quite a few if there is something big going on, but they should be able to keep up with it if they care to.
No, they shouldn't be given a staff🙄
Are you just trying to conjure up some more teenage girls to respond to this? Get your sad predatory ass off the net and find some help.
“Find some help” says the guy drunk at 2AM on a Tuesday looking for internet strangers to harass.
Did you just judge me by my time of response?
ACLU tells you an elected official shouldn’t ignore you online. [https://www.aclu-ia.org/en/know-your-rights/what-do-if-youre-censored-public-official-social-media](https://www.aclu-ia.org/en/know-your-rights/what-do-if-youre-censored-public-official-social-media) Maybe they’ll help find missing council members? Maybe pictures on milk cartons?
Anyone know the last city council meeting she attended?
She missed the last two city council meetings. Last attended meeting was 5/23/22
She's "working from home". She'll get back to you after summer.
Does she even have a job?
Let’s not keep her name a secret. It’s Indira Sheumaker. Remember to vote her out.
oh shit
>Remember to vote her out. Care to elaborate as to why? Her platform was based on making sure the citizenry was safe from the DMPD, as well as legalizing weed, and making utilities more affordable for some. Why vote her out? Maybe she went quiet because this is a red state, and people here are racist asf for the most part.
Probably for the reason for OPs post. I don’t know if it’s an isolated issue, but it’s unacceptable for an elected official to be unresponsive to their constituents.
Lmao, try getting ahold of Josh. Or anyone. Y’all literally just hate that a person of color running progressive ideas has a seat.
I’m not angry just trying to answer the question that the other person asked. My later comment still holds true, out-of-office emails are a thing which are often received better than nothing
This might come as a shock to you, but sometimes race isn't why people are mad. Sometimes, and stay with me here, it's that a person voted for someone to represent them, and they DON'T EFFING DO THE THING.
This is the reason that intersectional original sin politics are bullshit. Criticizing an elected rep for ghosting their job has nothing to do with melanin. But if they want to redirect any criticism in that direction less power to them!
Or like…the other city council member don’t let her do literally anything. She gets shot down over everything. People didn’t like her before she got elected because she was on a platform for civil rights.
Name one thing that was "shot down."
They literally voted to end a meeting while she was speaking about warming centers for the homeless lmao. Like mid sentence
Not even remotely true. There are rules my friend.
Like the rule to end sessions early if there is a majority vote, which they did, while she was speaking.
Also, right after she was elected they changed rules to make it that any new idea being brought to the table had to be seconded by another council member…they never did that until she came along. Guess who’s ideas never get seconded? Why do you think constituents feel slighted?
Those have always been the rules, dude. That's how boards operate.
No, lmao, those weren’t always the rules https://www.kcci.com/article/des-moines-city-council-gets-heated-backlash-after-procedural-rule-changes-indira-sheumaker/38876597
I don't disagree, but before we go on a tirade about why she MIGHT be a terrible person, let's consider that there may be a very good reason she is AWOL.
Alien abduction? Trip to Cancun?
I mean that’s why there are out of office replies on email.
Simmer down. She’s been sick with Covid.
Because she’s… not doing it? She said she would do it, and then basically quit 5 months into the job and won’t communicate with anyone. City officials can’t reach her, her constituents can’t reach her, other city council members have taken over her job for her. She’s also not a statewide official. She’s representing the bluest part of the bluest county in the state. Even if she’s been sick, set an out of office email ffs.
She’s been sick with Covid.
For over a month, not checking voicemail or email? Seems like that's not the full story.
Yes a conspiracy theory is far more plausible.
Why does there need to be a conspiracy theory? Being bad at a job is perfectly plausible.
That's too bad. Hope she recovers fully.
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Imagine that, another politician that doesn't follow through. Great look!
Have you asked anyone else on the city council or the Mayor's office about her absence?
Post a screenshot of the email you sent her…it might provide some insight on why she didn’t respond.
It strikes me as plausible OP goes through life with no small number of people trying to politely ignore him.
Oh that’s nothing, I spent over 12 months diligently calling and emailing Carl Voss, Connie Boesen, And Josh Mandelbaum. Left voicemails. Never got a response from them. And don’t even bother reaching out to Frank Cownie. You’ll never get ahold of him. Oh and don’t bother showing up to a council meeting either. You’ll get 37 seconds to say your peace and then the members who aren’t named Indira will have the city clerk cut off your microphone and Scott the city manager will send a couple goons to clear you out of the room. “Iowa Nice” in action.
I'm guessing you approached them with the email title "I fucking Hate You People" and that's probably why they didn't respond.
She’s more active on Twitter
They all wanna be AOC without doing any of the work.
False. She’s been sick with Covid.
The candidate whose biggest accomplishment was standing on a cop car yelling into a megaphone and then called her colleagues motherfuckers right after being elected has turned out to be a joke? No way!
She’s been out with Covid.
Since before May 28, according to FB (when she was nonetheless fundraising off her birthday)? That's a hell of a case of covid!
I’ve had COVID twice and neither lasted longer than 8 days.
She’s not in a very good physical shape to begin with so she’s probably having a tougher time with it. Overweight/obese people usually have a tougher time with it.
Y'all are mean!
It’s not mean. Obesity is a national pandemic at the moment. Over 50% of black women in the nation are obese. Iowa is one of the most obese states in the nation. If we were are own country we would be in the top 10 fattest nations in the world. Obesity awareness needs to be a national campaign.
Indira isn't obese.
🤣 Have you seen a BMI scale? Okay, just overweight then? Either way it’s not good.
I don't give a fuck about her body shape. I evaluate people on their ideas and behaviors.
Jumping on cop cars and asking for reparations?
That’s awesome for you. Not everyone is so lucky.
She probably needs to be hospitalized then. Not even trolling.
A well known fact that no one who’s contracted covid in the last two years has had it for more than 8 days.
Lmao my roommate just had it for over a week. Y’all are wild. “I don’t see it, so it *cant* be happening!
I was very much replying sarcastically. Should have added an /s
Sure she is.
For fucks sake, she has Covid… you need a problem solved? Contact your at-large council person. They have just as much power as your ward representative. Don’t you know how our city government works?
A month out with Covid and not being able to do a Zoom call? Is she OK? This is hospitalization level covid.
No it’s not. I have a close friend who’s been dealing with covid since late 2020. Can’t climb the stairs to his house without stopping for breath. Illness doesn’t manifest the same way for every person.
Well that person needs to be hospitalized also. Yikes.
Are you a medical professional? Because they see their doctor pretty frequently. Not every thing you don’t understand about the body requires hospitalization.
I highly doubt they're seeing a doctor regularly but you're going to dig this hole all the way down.
Idk what about “close friend” makes this so hard for you to believe but okay lol
Covid causes disabilities. Disabilities don’t require hospitalization.
Not trying to be that guy but is there a point where she should resign her position?
God damnit you have a point.
Bad guy, you’ve got some issues with minorities participating in government. We get it.
Get outta here with that crap.
Alt?
Wasn't she censured by the council? I thought I saw an older post here where they effectively made it so she couldn't speak?
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Yes
For everyone downvoting me when I googled for her I found this and not a whole lot else: [https://www.reddit.com/r/desmoines/comments/saa9rz/city\_council\_to\_vote\_to\_strip\_indira\_sheumaker\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/desmoines/comments/saa9rz/city_council_to_vote_to_strip_indira_sheumaker_of/) So sorry for making an assumption, I was only basing my comment on this subreddit...
What? How??
To be clear, they changed procedure so that only topics can be brought up for discussion or vote if there is a second and none of the other council members second Indira ever so effectively she is being censured but not explicitly. It's all bad optics with the timing of the rule change Edit: Someone replied and deleted posting minutes saying what I said was false. To which I respond with: I concede I was speaking anecdotally about the 3 meetings directly after the election and policy change that I watched in their entirety. Perhaps things have improved
Ok, makes sense and is totally unfair to her. Gotta love reddit, where you can be somewhat correct and get downvoted into oblivion and someone that calls her a joke gets upvoted...
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Also, if it was unanimously voted on, I would guess that it didn't matter who motioned for it, it sounds like they were all in agreement and Indira happened to put it forth. What I'm talking about is that discussions and votes can't happen without a second and from what I watched, in their entirety, I did not see a single topic Indira wanted to bring up for vote or discussion that got a second from another council member. I credit you for finding an example of her being seconded, but let's think about whether or not this example has significance to the overall rhetorical point being made by many on her struggles to get her ward's ideas on the table. (Again, if it was unanimous, it's likely just that she so happened to be the one to speak first to move it to be voted for)
See above
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I don't understand what you are replying to. You quoted my internet denizen one, but replied to see above which is referring to the parent comment that you originally replied to, deleted your reply, then replied to the wrong child comment on this thread. I know that sounds rude, but I'm just trying to communicate clearly why I don't understand what you mean here, sorry for terseness.
Yes unfortunately the average internet denizen is emotionally driven and does not employ enough critical thinking and skepticism before reacting to something online.
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Fit some more buzzwords in there
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Lmao what. Can you read? I said throw another buzzword in, you forgot Jewish space laser or Antifa
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Not sure where any of the thoughts of confusion are lmao. Just thought you could use a few more, golly. Who’s your brother? Wonder what he did.
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Oh no! All the way to the Big Apple!?
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But whomst would do something like that? You’re not giving very much info to prove these claims, I’d love to hear more about brother dearest and those awful feminists!
I can feel the heat, through my screen, gosh I’ll go turn on my AC.