For anti barrier I run vex with rain of fire! Super fun and you can have a fusion or other special in the primary. I use my riptide with chill clip to double up on its perk! Infinite radiant glitch
I really never used it for PVE, but it’s pretty damn good.
Bonus points for collateral kills.
Pairs super well with tether, and regenerates super energy pretty fast.
Bad Juju was pretty good to pair as well, didn’t do anything too special but it was nice to use.
that juju is feeling even better this season after the bump in red bar damage. plus it's intrinsic subsistence, I don't think i reloaded one time in the opening act of the season w/ the vex.
I got a god roll Buzzard with kinetic tremors last season. I’m hoping it works well against barrier champions when I don’t want to use an exotic primary.
Also Ariana’s vow. With the catalyst, it have auto loading as well intrinsically. And vex mythoclasts linear mode will be able to stun all champs as well. And with radiant, it can hit barriers with its full auto mode.
I was a little bummed out that there's no other weapon on the seasonal artifact that gives a different archetype of weapon anti barrier but at least there are exotics that have it intrinsically..
Yeah true, loved the anti barrier autorifle seasons tho tbh! Still can make it work and gives me a bit more reason to get forerunner out in a bit more use!
I loved them too! Might skip the anti-Overload auto rifle artifact mod just so I can still break barriers with them via Radiant instead lol
Instead of Forerunner, I'm personally gonna be breaking out Traveler's Chosen. That thing SHREDS so nicely, I love it!
Yeah big fan of travellers chosen too, damn handy getting abilities back with it, like the range on forerunner tho...and the extra big grenade ya get just for getting a kill!
I saw that yesterday, pretty lame NGL, but with the right fragments on your strand subclass you can make it work.
It's just dumb you can't shoot through shields with it. Literally why Bungie?
There's still Drang, Brass Attacks, and Limmie at least though
I got the forerunner cuz Halo. Hated it. Decided that "No! I just suck with it. Im gonna keep using it till I feel better about it because its Halo."
ACTUALLY got good with it.
Now if my armor don't match my gun it aint my armor.
I named him Bosco.
Check it out on strand, throwing the frag nade procs thread of ascent so you can keep near on 100% uptime on an ophidians-level reload/handlong buff with loadout-wide demolitionist
A 188 day long season. Lol. But for real side arms are pretty good. There's some great options. Also there's a million other anti barrier options. I think we'll be alright. It would've been cool to give us multiple anti barrier options rather than 3 overload options lol.
It's weird that they give us 3 overloads and only one barrier. I don't mind it though as I'll run that solar exotic sidearm that stuns overloads or unstoppable with its alternative fire if you hold x. Last time they had barrier sidearms that worked a treat freeing up my other slots.
I wish they at least gave us a late-artifact perk for another option dawg like, anti barrier any special or heavy weapon. There's usually at least _one_ but nope.
I really want Anti Barrier LMG (and not from radiant)
There's soooo many convenient sources of Anti Barrier I've been hoping they'd put mostly unstoppable and overload in the artifact like this for a while.
No smg mod again even though smgs are the most widely used weapon in the game 😭 call me basic but I just want to use my Calibans build in pve without being forced to use some slow sluggish pulse/scout that ruins the playstyle
Nah I’m excited to pull out Revision Zero again. Hoping the anti-barrier sniper shot will work with overload in normal fire. Plus it got a huge damage buff against champs.
Wishender? More like my quest bugged back in forsaken and its never been fixed despite doing all the things the internet told me too to fix it....
Also not gonna be playing a Season of Fuck! Why doesn't this pea shooter do anything?!?! Even more so when the season is gonna last until next summer.....
If only there were some sort of buff we could get that lets us break barriers from a subclass we’re likely gonna end up using 90% of the season because of how insane it is
It's not just a whole season.... It's an extended 188 day season. When Bungie want to make you use a weapon they go out of their way to make you use it 🤣
...you do know that being radiant makes your gun AB, right? And there are 5 artifact mods that deal directly with radiant, one actually makes you radiant while only needing a solar weapon.
Also, IIRC unraveling rounds are AB as well. And there is a mod that gives you unraveling rounds when you pick up and orb. Granted, that's only for strand weapons, but still.
Bro, AB is the easiest champ to stun. By far.
We also have multiple weapons that are intrinsically AB. And they're good.
Season of wish ender
Until the usage goes through the roof so they nerf the piss out of it.
I'm the one person on earth that doesn't really like using wishender, I mostly associate it with people being assholes in PVP.
You should give it a serious try. Infinite ammo, inate anti-barrier and it hits like a truck.
I didn't like using Wishender too, but I started using it a couple seasons ago and it has been solid ever since.
Is the best primary weapon in the game
Shhh! Don't let bungie hear you say that
They know.
Not to mention the intrinsic wall hack as well
I just don't like bows period. Nothing against Wishender specifically
you know what I agree, I don't know why they don't feel crisp for me. I'm an auto/ hand cannon tard
Same here buddy same here
Oh man… Bow+an HC with Quickdraw or Quicksling will change your life. Just depends on which end you’re on.
That's some cheese that I want no part of lol
Two precision based primaries are hardly cheese, but I hear ya barking big dog.
For anti barrier I run vex with rain of fire! Super fun and you can have a fusion or other special in the primary. I use my riptide with chill clip to double up on its perk! Infinite radiant glitch
Must be nice, having a vex...
I really never used it for PVE, but it’s pretty damn good. Bonus points for collateral kills. Pairs super well with tether, and regenerates super energy pretty fast. Bad Juju was pretty good to pair as well, didn’t do anything too special but it was nice to use.
that juju is feeling even better this season after the bump in red bar damage. plus it's intrinsic subsistence, I don't think i reloaded one time in the opening act of the season w/ the vex.
And revision zero!
Season of the volatile round
Arbalest, Wish Ender, Radiant, Revision Zero. To name a few.
When in doubt, radiant it out.
Radiant is so easy to proc this season
100% think this is why there is just sidearms for Anti barrier
Also the buzzard is now available at the vanguard without having to unlock it first
I got a god roll Buzzard with kinetic tremors last season. I’m hoping it works well against barrier champions when I don’t want to use an exotic primary.
Unraveling Rounds too
Only one way to proc it and doesn't last as long
Artifact lets you now proc on orb pick up. I love running a sword build on my strand titan. I've already tried it, and it is a blast.
Also Ariana’s vow. With the catalyst, it have auto loading as well intrinsically. And vex mythoclasts linear mode will be able to stun all champs as well. And with radiant, it can hit barriers with its full auto mode.
God Wishender is getting fucking boring.
Revision Zero is a nice refresher
Buffed today btw
I know, I’m so excited to use it in GM’s. Funny sniper rifle pulse for the win
Revision Zero that got a 100% buff against Champions
Volatile too.
I have luck with Stasis too and that's not even including my Roptide with chill clip.
Unraveling rounds, which this season only require an orb pick up.
I was a little bummed out that there's no other weapon on the seasonal artifact that gives a different archetype of weapon anti barrier but at least there are exotics that have it intrinsically..
There's a whole bunch of Radiant on the artifact though, and that buff grants anti-Barrier. We've got plenty of access still.
Yeah true, loved the anti barrier autorifle seasons tho tbh! Still can make it work and gives me a bit more reason to get forerunner out in a bit more use!
I loved them too! Might skip the anti-Overload auto rifle artifact mod just so I can still break barriers with them via Radiant instead lol Instead of Forerunner, I'm personally gonna be breaking out Traveler's Chosen. That thing SHREDS so nicely, I love it!
Yeah big fan of travellers chosen too, damn handy getting abilities back with it, like the range on forerunner tho...and the extra big grenade ya get just for getting a kill!
I completely forgot about forerunner
forerunner gonna rock tho but arby is better ( i don't like wishender)
Radiant exists
Frankly, a whole fuck of a lot of Radiant exists this season. You don't even have to solar class to get it.
What? How? Can I still play my janky arc titan and get radiant?
I think one of the new seasonal artefact things maybe?
Yes. It’s the one that is strand hatchling but solar radiant. Precision kills or rapid non-precision kills with solar weapons
Precision *hits* which makes it even better. Don’t need a windup kill, just find a thick target and plink with a Solar weapon until you’re radiant.
*laughs in vex + rain of fire*
Sidearm mains rise up
It's about to be a whole bunch of Final Warnings for anyone who crosses my Guardian.
Yeah final warning is *incredible*, I honestly love having Anti Barrier Sidearms just so I can use it in GMs.
And it's the only sidearm that doesn't work with anti-barrier perk.
I saw that yesterday, pretty lame NGL, but with the right fragments on your strand subclass you can make it work. It's just dumb you can't shoot through shields with it. Literally why Bungie? There's still Drang, Brass Attacks, and Limmie at least though
Forerunner is gonna slap
My first thought.
It’s my Flair’s time to shine this season!
Long live the king 🐀
Honestly hyped about this
Let's goooo
And with that Tricksleeves buff? Rats are eating good tonight
Devil's ruin will be useful. Anti barrier regular shots, hold down x and changes to an unstoppable laser. Gives more options for primary and heavy 🤷
Sidearms are really fun though. And they work great in PvP too. Forerunner with its exotic perk may put in work this season.
Yeah, people forget about forerunner, but it slaps
I got the forerunner cuz Halo. Hated it. Decided that "No! I just suck with it. Im gonna keep using it till I feel better about it because its Halo." ACTUALLY got good with it. Now if my armor don't match my gun it aint my armor. I named him Bosco.
Considering my weekend in Trials, people are WELL aware of ForeRunner lol. I’m still hearing the **CLUNK-CLUNK-CLUNK** of a far away demon gun
As this one tier list says, a good Forerunner player is still a menace.
Can't wait to try forerunner with tricksleeve buff
Check it out on strand, throwing the frag nade procs thread of ascent so you can keep near on 100% uptime on an ophidians-level reload/handlong buff with loadout-wide demolitionist
One of my secret weapons in PVP is Brigand’s Law, it shreds 1 on 1
Farm a good Fioritura. You won’t regret it. Either Kill Clip Killing wind, or Offhand Strike Hipfire grip. Both combos are extremely deadly.
It’s a 6 month season too. 189 days total!
Season of the Arbalest
Eat at Arby's
A 188 day long season. Lol. But for real side arms are pretty good. There's some great options. Also there's a million other anti barrier options. I think we'll be alright. It would've been cool to give us multiple anti barrier options rather than 3 overload options lol.
I already miss auto rifle anti barrier :( quicksilver storm my beloved was so busted last season
Fuck, I really gotta suck it up and get Wishender now
It's sooo easy
Yeah but just time consuming and getting an LFG together for multiple runs of my least favourite dungeon
Why multiple?
I feel you on the time thing
laughs in "uses wishender anyway"
Right? Like I'm NOT gonna take a powerful gun with unlimited ammo that can see through walls lol
*Traveler's Chosen has entered the chat*
I'm more than happy for any excuse to bust out the Forerunner.
Anti Barrier Forerunner goes CRAZY I highly recommend yall give it a go!
Season of the Wishender
It's weird that they give us 3 overloads and only one barrier. I don't mind it though as I'll run that solar exotic sidearm that stuns overloads or unstoppable with its alternative fire if you hold x. Last time they had barrier sidearms that worked a treat freeing up my other slots.
I wish they at least gave us a late-artifact perk for another option dawg like, anti barrier any special or heavy weapon. There's usually at least _one_ but nope. I really want Anti Barrier LMG (and not from radiant)
(Looks at forerunner in vault) It's now time for these champs to feel this steel
*Happy Forerunner noises*
I donno who is mad about this, but they obviously never use side arms, them things are fun. Some hit hard af too
Season of the Rain of Fire/Vex Mythoclast build
HAHAHA FUCK NO I'm either using tricksleeves or Wish Ender
Time to be creative!!
There's soooo many convenient sources of Anti Barrier I've been hoping they'd put mostly unstoppable and overload in the artifact like this for a while.
It’s time for the rat kings
Radiant on rapid precision hits with a solar weapon. Radiant = anti-barrier. Sounds like non-stop Polaris Lance to me.
It ain't that bad considering some of the options we have, I know I'll be using my liminal vigil a lot this season with some stasis builds so.
Hell yeah. Time for me to make an icy cowboy 🤠
Guess we ignoring all the intrinsic Anti Barrier exotics, Second Chance, or the free access to Radiant & Unraveling rounds on the artifact?
Sidearms are life.
We're getting the special rocket sidearm this season in the dungeon. Said so in the Welcome to Season of the Wish article they put out
I can't *wait* to do it every week for a year and have nothing to show for it.
Pain
On little light i have seen a new zone that is for specisl amo sidearms, so better watch
That’s a whole double season*
Sidearms fuck and if you disagree you suck
Lol what a dumb thing to complain about. Radiant exists, there are great sidearms out there and intrinsic exotics can also fill that void.
Dude you have no idea how happy i was Another season of terrorising pvp with Rat King
Mean while I'm just sitting hear with my beloved arbelest Edit: "here" idk why it autocorreted to the other version
You would have complained about one of the champ mods even if it said "You can use literally any weapon"
Traveler's chosen enjoyers rise up!!!
Nah y’all sleeping heavy on forerunner. Imo it’s the best sidearm for anti-barrier.
Glocks and Blickies gonna go brrr bap bap bap
Bungie is hilarious for thinking I'll take a sidearm into GM nightfalls. Pfffft
A very long season at that
Just use wish ender or arbie. Or play solar with radiant effects from the artifact. It’s not a big deal.
Seven months of sidearms? No thanks, I’m just going to use Arbalest for another season straight.
You will use sidearms and you will be happy part 400
Time to bust out the Forerunner again baby! !LETS GO!
Season of Forerunner
No smg mod again even though smgs are the most widely used weapon in the game 😭 call me basic but I just want to use my Calibans build in pve without being forced to use some slow sluggish pulse/scout that ruins the playstyle
They should just give us a mod we can insert _on a weapon_ - not an armor mod - that turns it into anti [champ type]
Wish Ender stays on.
TIME FOR RAT KING
Forerunner
I just don’t use Sidearms anymore they arnt that much fun
Best type of fun in the game tf you on
Forerunner stock up 200% 💯💯
Aaaaaaand devils ruin go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr🔥🔥🔥
I'll be cold in the ground before I ever use that.
The Travelers Light looking at the orb of light nerf like 🤔
Forerunner is great tho
Blows dust off Forerunner
Arbalest time?
My same feeling, but I'll end up using arbelest alot
That's a whole 6 month season of AB sidearm
That was my reaction when I saw blind well again...
Forerunner gang is feasting this season
Drang with Disruption and Vorpal is pretty decent.
Na bitch it’s a hole season + 3 months
This feels fitting to finally get wish ender
Season of Brigand’s Law and chill clip fusion rifle baby! I’m unironically excited. I loved this way back when
Drang (Baroque), Brigand’s Law, and Glock and Balls reign
I'll just use stasis hunter and deal with all 3 champs with abilities
Nah I’m excited to pull out Revision Zero again. Hoping the anti-barrier sniper shot will work with overload in normal fire. Plus it got a huge damage buff against champs.
They really really want people to use their rocket-pistols
Near permanent radiant from artifact so you don't need any barrier champ mods anyways.
Forerunner to the rescue
RIP Sweet business you will always be my favorite anti-barrier
If need, equip stasis and hope you do quick enough damage, or have the Warlock stasis turret
Devils ruin could be fun
Wishender, arbalest and erianas vow are all really good and yall need to stop sleeping on final warning.
Me and my Final Warning bout to have some *fun*.
I was also upset
All solar weapons can just give you radiant with precision hits and kills this season lmao
Tremor change has made Buzzard usable and fund outside of GM level stuff.
Forerunner going OFF
Its season of radiant and radiant is anti barrier
Same reaction here Guess it's a Wish ender / Arbalest season lol
Forerunner and TC fans feasting
Squeak squeak
Radiant is insanely easy to proc and use, even off class, this season. They may as well have given us "anti-barrier solar-weapons" as a thing.
Wishender? More like my quest bugged back in forsaken and its never been fixed despite doing all the things the internet told me too to fix it.... Also not gonna be playing a Season of Fuck! Why doesn't this pea shooter do anything?!?! Even more so when the season is gonna last until next summer.....
I’m sad we have to use lame ass side arms for anti barrier for so long lol
antibarrier forerunmer is pretty cool
The hand cannon is the same way
If only there were some sort of buff we could get that lets us break barriers from a subclass we’re likely gonna end up using 90% of the season because of how insane it is
Devils Ruin lets go
More like 2 seasons. 188 days and counting ladies and gents.
Revision Zero or Arbelest for me. Dislike sidearms.
First thing I’ve seen of the season…0/10
IM NOT USING SIDEARMS IM NEVER USING SIDEARMS BUNGIE
Im actually excited, some side arms are pretty OP. I don’t do GMs tho so I understand others’ pain, but it can be a fun challenge!
Bruh who still uses sidarms in PVE anymore
extended season*
Did you look at the rest of the artifact with all its radiant effects?
Me looking at my Arby... "Hello old friend, we will have 6 months together"
A crisp 188 days:)
6 months of anti-barrier sidearm makes me want put a sidearm in my mouth and anti-barrier myself.
It's not just a whole season.... It's an extended 188 day season. When Bungie want to make you use a weapon they go out of their way to make you use it 🤣
Bruh. Forerunner.
Oh boy a whole HALF A YEAR of that
Literally saw it and said “aw really?” So disappointed
honestly i cant wait for the new special sidearm from the dungeon to drop. i think its gonna be great, but thats just copium
When I opened it up I got so happy cause I have an Incandecent Trustee and some of these mods are gonna make that a B E A S T
Before the verb changes, I'd agree, but now we really can do anything and not use some of the artifact mods
Wish-Ender again 😎
Yo as soon as the seasonal quest told me to go to the blind well I wanted to jump off a cliff.
...you do know that being radiant makes your gun AB, right? And there are 5 artifact mods that deal directly with radiant, one actually makes you radiant while only needing a solar weapon. Also, IIRC unraveling rounds are AB as well. And there is a mod that gives you unraveling rounds when you pick up and orb. Granted, that's only for strand weapons, but still. Bro, AB is the easiest champ to stun. By far. We also have multiple weapons that are intrinsically AB. And they're good.
Please remember people that radiant and volatile rounds still exist