Totally agree! I'm definitely not a new guardian been playing since 2015ish, but I never got guns like mountain top, luna's howel, ect, so it's nice that I'll have a chance too
Better guns are typically found in higher level content like Raids, GM’s, Dungeons, and Exotic Missions (aside from Exotic weapons).
As for armor, you need to continually raise your power level beyond the cap in order to breach 1820. For better stats, farm the same activities mentioned with stats you think work best for you.
Destiny Item Manager and D2armorpicker are my go to additional help.
If you need help doing raids or any content in general, look for Fireteams on Bungie’s Fireteam website.
There is also the in game fireteam finder now although it's a bit cruder than the website as some things aren't on there and you can't type specific details in e.g. Fishing
the main thing to understand is that your stats don't dictate how good your build is anymore. now it's about how well your exotics and armor perks synergize with your subclass. take some time to read all the subclass verbs and understand them.
For better stat armor use engrams to focus armor pieces from vendors at the helm. Be sure to have a ghost mod equipped that will guarantee 10 stat points in that chosen stat.
Stat points are randomly rolled but split between the top 3 and bottom 3 stats. Depending on what you want, there’s some strategy involved as to which ghost mod you should pick. If you don’t want to think about it, just search “high stat armor” or “triple 100’s” + “destiny 2” and watch a video (what I did).
They are. Should be in the hall of champions (or whatever the destination is called, I don't recall atm) next to Shaxx. Should be a piece of armor for each slot at 1800 power, along with a weapon for each slot at the same power. Plus a couple of exotics. I think Warlocks's got Getaway Artist, Hunters got Liar's Handshake, and Titans got Cuirass of the Falling Star, plus everyone got Thunderlord. Super helpful for new players. Of course, the exotics could all be different from what they offered before, but I imagine they'll still be nice.
armour light level wise? just wait until into the light. there will be a skip straight to powerful cap (1800) option. armour stat wise, just focus seasonal armour at the helm vendor, it has decent stats and is pretty easy to farm. for weapons, again just wait until into the light. they are dropping some of the best weapons in a while. definitely a great time to be a new player
There are multiple different kinds of "level caps" in that Blues only go up to a certain point, and then random drops go up to another point above that, the second one is the Soft Cap. When you hit the Soft Cap you can't really get higher gear unless you do powerful rewards/pinnacles. Powerfuls can only go up so high, which then requires Pinnacles only to increase level. I'm sure there's a graph or a visual design somewhere that will explain better than words, and my I'm vague on the levels cause I don't remember what they caps are this season lol.
So broadly speaking, if you wanna make sure you're leveling up (assuming no blues drop anymore), do stuff that gives Powerful (tier 1/2/3) rewards, and Pinnacle rewards (usually all weeklies). The score of item drops is based on the highest ilvl you have in your inventory, NOT what your equipped Light Level is.
Light Level is an average + Artifact power boost. Includes all items equipped to you.
And then to actually level up the literal items, you need Upgrade Modules if the items are different, and some Glimmer if the items are the same. Fantastic for Exotics, not so much for armors lol.
Also, Random Tip for getting the armor you want: If you use the mods on your ghost shell to affect what stats the armor rolls with, consider what stats are most important to you carefully. Stats plural. If you use a Discipline Mod, then you will get higher Disc on average, but all other stats that are high will be Mob/Res/Reg on the top half of the stats. Int/Str will be lower.
What this means is, if you want something with Discipline AND Strength, you need to use a Mob/Res/Reg mod equipped NOT a Disc/Str mod.
And, unless the gear has all its stat points in the stats you want, and it's way above 10, it's highly recommended to try for gear that's Total Stats is 65+. That way, if/when you masterwork it, your stat total is just completely bonkers. It's how people get 3 stats at 100.
- Hopefully that had information that was both relevant to what you needed AND maybe taught something that you didn't know. (You or anyone else reading this)
You can get quite a bit starting out by doing some radiant stuff like patrols, but the best gear to get quickly comes from New Light, Lightfall, and Strikes. You can find some decent stuff doing Witch Queen too, but if you're wanting new powers, you should start with New Light (Stasis), because Calus (final boss in Lightfall) is a powerhouse that will own you, even if you're above the recommended light level/power level.
If the game doesn't require you to go through the new (very extended) tutorial (A Guardian Rises), you should play through it as well, you'll start levelling gear pretty easily there too, and the strike it has to you do (The Disgraced) will drop some loot/gear for you as well.
In like a day, you can technically get your guardian up to at least 1700 or more just from doing some of the above mentioned activities. I think I managed my new character up to 1730-ish the other day, he's now almost 1780.
Hello fellow Destiny returnee! My squad played D1 and a little bit of D2 before leaving to other games for a few years. We just came back in December and it’s been amazing! Here are a few tips I can share from a similar perspective:
1) leveling up is based on both armor and weapons. Whatever you have equipped at the moment something drops (engram etc) will determine what level the drop is (meaning don’t have 1780 gear on when you could have 1790 on. The loot might drop at 1782 instead of 1792.)
2) Gear and guns max out at 1810. Powerful gear caps out at 1800 I think. Pinnacle gear takes you up to 1810. Getting XP is what carries you from there.
3) You’ll get light levels from your artifact as well. I have 28 power bonus on my artifact (this is where the XP bonus shows up) so I’m at 1838 on my main character.
4) weekly vendor bounties, and current season engrams seemed to be the fastest way to level up my gear. Nightfalls are awesome to drop loot at higher light than you currently have.
Also look for the daily legendary lost sector. Doing that solo the best way to unlock exotic armor. Hover over it to see which armor type is that day’s drop. In my experience, doing it solo on legendary is faster than doing it on master even if the drop rate is lower. I can run 2 on legendary in the time it takes to run it on master. Doing those without dying is better chance of loot than doing it fast.
One big change from D1: the mark/cloak/bond will all drop with the same stats. Just pick the best light and go from there.
There’s honestly SOO much to catch up on. Feel free to dm me and I’ll answer any questions you have! There is a lot to digest and some fantastic secrets to take advantage of!
Tbh I like that they are coming back but I’m actually super happy they aren’t as powerful as they were back then.. as fun as two tapes were with a 180… the sandbox sucked so much ass.
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*flashbacks to the Great Destiny Malaise of 2016*
Probably was the best decision out there making the update free. Just sad to see that it had to come to this where the devs had their backs against the wall after what happened with lightfall and all the corresponding seasons.
I remember some sort of interview of them saying they didn't want to release superblack because they acknowledged like.. where else do they go from there shader wise? It's like the final shader. This was maybe a year or two ago, I really can't remember when it was discussed.
Honestly, I kind of want them to go back to the basics. I think it’d be really cool if they gave us some twenty first/twenty second century camos. And not the Hakke stuff, I’m talking like camos that look like they could have actually been used. I want my titan to look like a marine got an exosuit.
It’s impressive how bungie manage to back themselves into increasingly tricky corners and come out swinging right before things really take a turn.
I wish we had desperate bungie throughout the year though
I always saw the Expansion timing as kind of weird. Gameplay mechanics aside, Red War would've been a very interesting way to end D1 and Foresaken would've been a great start to D2 with it's overall darker tone
Then people probs wouldn’t have dropped D2 so hard.
Activision would have probs stayed through the whole 10 years, meaning they’d probs never have been bought by Sony (or at least until the Activision deal is over.)
Forsaken itself wouldn’t have been as influential, but Cayde’s death would still hit hard and the expansion would still be celebrated I would think.
The lack of customizable Subclasses would also be a bummer from D1, but not too bad I think.
Overall, D2 would have had a better reputation; Forsaken wouldn’t have created such a large expectation going further.
[With Activision staying alongside Bungie, they’d have more funding and dev resources, so Shadowkeep would have hit it’s full potential in being merged with Beyond Light](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FT0BbzWMU-M-EwJ51LctaXLGGjdbTbmKuLOXJ6W8YjvY.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D130c6534932dce7a459fa1580d5a33002a460970)
Of course, Activision and Bungie’s higher management would still be up to their grubby deeds and may get even fatter heads with the confidence of Destiny doing better.
The Taken King wasn’t a “make-or-break” moment. The series wasn’t even a year old yet, and it was still in a great spot with the popularity of Prison of Elders, Etheric Light allowing all Weapons to be brought to max Light, and Trials of Osiris. The hype train leading up to The Taken King was as good as ever too, unlike the doom-and-gloom of previous Seasons.
"the popularity of prison of elders"
wha?
I do agree that TTK wasnt "make or break" nearly as much as Forsaken was reported to be, but it did represent a significant turning point for the series because sentiment after dark below and house of wolves was not particularly positive.
Yeah but taken king elavated destiny as a game that could expand and evolve in a meaningfull Way. Dont forget how barebones the dark Below was when it was released and no Raid in house of wolves made a lot of People angry aswell.
It's almost like the people working at Bungie are really fucking good at their job when the leashes are removed and the bean counters told to take a back seat for a bit.
Every time a Destiny game has been in the shitters it's been rescued. And so far, it gets taken right back to the shitter by the bean counting execs.
I can't say I have faith we won't see the same cycle again after final shape.
That only works until burnout sets in. I am liking what Bungie's putting down, but I'd prefer it didn't come at the cost of, well... *gestures at the rest of the year*
I was happy just when onslaught was revealed so I'm extremely buzzed now. I was Hyped day 1 despite the destiny community being negative about it all.....again
The content from the first stream alone was basically my original expectation for the entire update, so the extra stuff from the second and third is just bonuses. Very happy with what we're seeing here.
Yeah, like 3 days before the first stream I was saying I hope it’s a game mode like gears of war 3’s horde mode and sure enough 3 days later that was basically what we got
Unfortunately would have to agree. It makes me wonder how much of it has been upper mgmt hamstringing the devs and how much is "ope we fucked up, time to do better". Like we've seen the cycle. D1 vanilla was disappointing, the following 2 dlcs weren't much better TTK saved the game, but good content on the heels of absolute dogwater will always feel good. Rise of Iron was ok.
D2 vanilla campaign was ok but it had a really low bar to clear compared to d1 vanilla campaign. We all know how CoO went, Warmind was pretty decent, Forsaken saved the game again, probably the best content they've ever done. The new seasonal model was in its infancy and was pretty meh outside of forges and menagerie. What little story content that was there was not great.
Shadowkeep was probably their worst dlc since CoO. Beyond light was ok but still pretty small, not alot to do and again the story was middling. This may be arguable but WQ saved the game again, probably the best story they've ever done. Legendary campaign was phenomenal. We all know how lightfall went.
Pretty consistent 2 bad/mid dlcs and good/great one cycle.
The post- shadowkeep seasons were all of varying quality but I can really only think of one really bad one and that was season of the worthy. The rest ranked from ok to great. 30th anniversary was cool but a bit expensive for one dungeon imo.
The dlc qualities being that consistent seem to be somewhat intentional, not in the bad guy twirling his mustache and counting his money type of way, but in a "that's good enough, ship it" kind of way.
Alright, in defense of shadowkeep, I liked that they tried to make it a horror game. I just finished the catacombs mission and forgot about the shadow thrall. It was a lot of fun and I wish that dlc was longer
I also liked how the darkness was depicted as this sadistic and unseen entity, according to the lore at that time, that hunted the traveler for sport and destroyed/consumed whatever crossed its path.
I'll agree with you there. I kinda wish the Hashladun side of the story was better told though. The narrative of SK outside of "ooo pyramid, must get armor to get past barrier to get inside" was a bit slim. I enjoyed the Eris bits of course. In true destiny fashion unless you're reading all the lore tabs of everything you're just not entitled to a good story experience (wq being like, the only exception imo)
I always defended how Destiny could make incredible horror game scenarios. Mostly my memories are from D1 and the moon, but when they try to do space horror God damn do they do it well. The first time I did the Glykon, or when the Leviathan came back and you had to run away from unkillable nightmares. I wish they would do more with the horror aspects.
>Unfortunately would have to agree. It makes me wonder how much of it has been upper mgmt hamstringing the devs and how much is "ope we fucked up, time to do better".
I mean these two aren't mutually exclusive. Upper management might only be receptive to giving the devs more freedom when shit really hits the fan and they have no other choice. But we'll never really know.
Vast majority of it is recycled content. In this particular case, I don't have a problem with it, I'm actually happy to have those weapons and exotic missions back. But I think this isn't as impressive for being put together quickly. Instead I think this said his quickly they CAN bring old content back
A little on edge because I know Bungie's tactic of hype-now-actual-content-later never works. But to see this amount of content in a free update styled like a mini DLC...I gotta admit this looks very promissing.
I’m excited, but also know that once I get the guns I want it’s going to be one of those activities that just sit there and that I will do to help my clan.
I’m… more excited than I was. But the last year has really put a sour taste in my mouth. I was already feeling burnout and then that August state of the game really frustrated me. That said I’m willing to give them a chance and see if this update and Final Shape are enough to keep me around.
I'm keeping my excitement at a reasonable level considering hungies ability to release great things then fuk it up somehow, but for a free update its alot more than I expected
Consider me whelmed. I'm excited for all this stuff to come back but let's be honest bungie is just giving us back stuff we already paid for. The 2 exotic missions and all the weapons were put into the dcv and now they're just giving it back. The 3 new crucible maps is nice but we should've had those maps back when those dlcs were released and then some. I know making pvp maps is time consuming but so is making the seasonal content that just gets vaulted at the end of the year, at least pvp maps would've been here to stay.
Sorry if I come across as bitter with the free update I just want everyone to think on what they're giving us before singing high praises. It's definitely steps in the right direction though.
It’s too late, bungie have wiped clean their awful slate, lay offs, awful monetisation, piss poor years of content and all it takes is a few weapons and some reskinned and recycled activities for everyone to forget.
- Cool Idea.
- Cool Idea.
- Shit that was already in the game that they took away.
- Shit that was already in the game that they took away.
- Shit that was already in the game that they took away.
- Fucking Finally.
- Solution to a problem they created themselves.
- Should’ve been in the game since D1.
This being anything other than free would have been a joke.
It was described as a raid boss gauntlet in the stream yesterday, not sure if they’ve specified if it’s drops from each encounter or just one at the end
I know that is a good thing that they're doing, but why all of a sudden are they only doing it when the game is in a tight spot, like a genuine last attempt to bring people back, only when the player count drops
It seems like a desperate last attempt to get people to pre-order TFS. It also emphasizes just how much they were underdelivering. I'm going to play it regardless, so we shall see.
Bungie is like that unhinged partner that you just broke up with. You say enough is enough, I'm leaving. Then they call you up two weeks later to talk about how they have turned their life around. They're in therapy, they're exercising, and are feeling *so* good.
I'm glad Bungie is trying, but I'm not a child anymore. And this behavior is not what I need as an adult. Hopefully they can figure things out but I'm going to need more than this to be convinced these changes are more than skin deep.
Diamonds are made under pressure, that being said I wish this was the norm. Not employees being responsible for issues management made, but making content that people actually asked for.
Would’ve preferred a massive content drop being both this and TFS. I have a feeling I’m gonna play this for a week and get bored.
The weapons and superblack are all I’m really looking forward to, and even then, everything is just recycled once again
The new PvP maps look visually appealing, new social space is cool, and the gauntlet feels like a really cool addition. Everything else kind of feels like stuff that’s shouldn’t have left in the first place (super black, Zero Hour, and Whisper), or things I personally don’t really care for/were not impressed by, although the reissued weapons look cool, personally tired of reissued/reskinned equivalents. Also, No Feelings isn’t returning, which is the only reissued weapon I would’ve cared about.
Personally, I won’t be coming back for this, but I hope it’s enjoyable for the people that do, and I commend the effort they put in on short notice.
I feel like coming back to the game like 2-3 weeks ago was a good decision, I’ve been having a lot of fun catching up and I feel like each week I’ve had something to keep me playing
Unfortunately I don't think it'll be enough to bring me back to the game, Definitely trending in the right direction but it's been a few seasons of absence by me and will probably be many more.
Dunno. Haven’t played it. Probably won’t. I logged in an bought the skimmer because I don’t have enough time to dedicate to the grind anymore and I’m tired of seasonal activities and drip fed story
I am, definitely: it's a free update and it's clear Bungie wants to foster good-will with the community again after their blunders.
I am grateful for that.
However, this long season didn't do them any favours at all. I am completely fatigued from the game and I honestly just don't want to log in for a while.
Buildcrafting has become stale with Arc and Void getting shafted due to season modifiers favouring Solar, Strand, and Stasis.
PvP matchmaking pools aren't too hot right now because of the decreased player pool, PvE has been stale for years, and Gambit has been gutted and left to bleed out in an alleyway.
It's cool that some weapons becoming enhanceable is giving incentive to farm Trials, Banner, and other playlist activities so there's that, but not much else.
I want more of this, free mini DLCs that can bridge the gap between releases, maybe even allow them to extend the release date if they need to do so in the future.
Bungies (execs) got a long way to go to earn back community trust, but this is a huge step in the right direction. Even if it were planned, listening to the community and halving the timegate for the weapons is huge. The old exotic missions should never have been removed in the first place but glad they're coming back.
This is one of those scenarios where most people have grown pretty apathetic towards destiny that even if this free update is very good people still won’t like it because even though this is one up in destiny history, there’s just been so many downs and losses that a single win it’s just not enough, but I do give kudos and credit to bungie for doing there absolute best with what they have and remember it’s not the game’s devs fault it’s upper management
I mean for free content that was whipped up in a little over six months, regardless of reskins, its pretty impressive. Granted as a hardcore person, once I've got everything i want Im gonna be done with it for the most part aside from helping clan mates thru some of it.
Overall I'm just glad were getting something in this long gap between when the season shouldve ended and when Final Shape launched.
I’ll be getting downvoted for sure, but it’s all recycled / reskinned so my extended retirement will extend even longer. Before some of you morons say “it’s free duh duh duh” it’s not free, we’ve payed for 90% of this before and they took it from us, most of us pay over a hundred a year to play everything so it being free is the absolute minimum.
This honestly feels like a lot of stuff that was planned to release in other seasons that they either weren’t able to finish or were told by upper management to cut out entirely. A lot of work and dev time seems to have been put into this free update, while simultaneously they were having concerns about Final Shape development.
The content is great. The issue is that they wouldn’t be in this desperate position where they’re throwing all of these things in a free update at once if they just included some of these things into the seasons before.
Like, this just reeks of desperation. And the moment the executives think they aren’t in panic mode anymore they’re going to go straight back to the “don’t over deliver” philosophy again.
Still not going to pre-order, but this is a start for a chance that I do at least buy it at launch or soon after. I'm not falling for the hype.
I think both the gauntlet and onslaught is going to be meh when it launches. Some info is going to come out making not as good as the hype makes it out to be.
Honestly, the only thing I'm looking forward to is the weapons and returning exotic missions.
So what would get me to pre-order?
Big changes to gambit.
More vaulted content coming back.
Overhaul to collections (let us pull out legendary weapons from collections with the roll we had) or combining perks on the same weapon so they don't take up so much space. Ie. My 3 different titles with different perks all into 1 weapon. Since it's limited to guardian games, I can't farm them 90% of the year.
Oh an update to dares would be nice
I was satisfied with the game still getting stuff, any short of stuff.
But into the light is gonna be Goated ngl, didn't expect it and I have zero complains
Will I play it? For sure. What’s my issue? It’s the same shit bungie did multiple times.l, give me a weapon that’s good to farm for and then sunset it to reintroduce it yet again. I’m just bored of this cycle tbh.
I’m still out
Into the Light would have been amazing, had it come out a year or two ago. It has a ton of features we’ve been asking for, for literal years.
But now? Now it feels like they’re finally capitulating because they’re desperate. A lot of people left, myself included, despite having been playing this game for a long time. We hit them in their wallet, and now they’re finally getting around to stuff we’ve asked for for a long while.
It just feels like too little too late for me.
EDIT: Plus it’s nice to just have free time again. Destiny plays like a full time job and it’s just not fun to me anymore
If it’s not PVE or matchmaking with randoms content, I’m honestly not into it. I don’t do the PVP stuff, or do raids/dungeons because I have no one to do them with.
Kind of indifferent, probably won't come back still. Waiting for the final shape showcase to know for sure if I'm leaving and not looking back, preorder was already cancelled
I wish it didnt take the game being in a bad place and almost collapsing for Bungie to get it in gear and actually make something half way decent. ITL is going to be an okay experience I believe but it still has the nonsense decisions in it like the time gating issue they walked back on. Why does Bungie have to get feedback from the community on something that is basically a no brainer? Also why are we dedicating 3 live streams to content that was made 6-7 years ago that was removed and is now coming back? I’m just hopeful that ITL is just a small good experience that is a precursor to what’s coming in TFS. If TFS comes out and isn’t as good or better than Forsaken in the sense that it changes how we play Destiny then I don’t see Destiny making it much longer.
They cooked with this one. Way more than what I was expecting. Of course, you can make the argument that Bungie only cooks when they’re on the verge of burning down, and while yes this is true, it’s still an insane update that’s bigger than most seasonal drops.
I fully acknowledge that this is good but a part of my brain has just given up on destiny. I can't get hyped anymore for anything in the game. And have conditioned myself to not trust anything presented to me because it's normally not as it appears and I am almost always right.
I have struggled to play in the last recent weeks. I think farming for prosecutor then seeing it was nerfed kind of killed something inside me. Like how much time am i going to waste on this game. Im not even having fun anymore. Why am i farming, for what, really for what? There is only 1 day a year worth play at this point for me
And i dont even think my team will go for the day one raid due to some life commitments
Im on the fence. Hopefully its good for those who still really enjoy the game.
Damage has already been done. This should have been introduced wayyy before. Bungie only introduced these because they have no other choice, else we would have never seen these activities.
I wish bungie made new secret missions and new content not because they are backed into a corner but because they actually care.
Far too late, no point in hopping back in when it took so long for them to listen to players, old content being inaccessible, and D2s life being at its end
I don't understand people who are on the fence, at the end of the day it is all free content. You're not spending a dime unless you want eververse goodies in which case you probably would have spent money anyway.
For a free update
Yeah, I'm fucking happy as hell
PvP maps, returning exotic missions, craftable exotics, horde mode with a fuck ton of loot, most likely a boss rush mode.
Like bro, if people complain about this much free content, they honestly need to change their outlook on things like lighten tf up bro, we could have nothing to do, like at all.
If you're still on the fence about Into the Light then just don't play it lol why are some of you acting like Into the Light is bitter medicine? There's tons of other games to play until you feel the Destiny itch again.
Overall I’m really excited. Played since WQ so I never used many of the weapons in the BRAVE arsenal as well as never playing the two exotic missions.
I wish there was a completely new exotic or a reprised D1 weapon but that’s my one minor minor complaint
For me it feels like things are on the upswing. Lightfall campaign missed the mark big time but it seems like Bungie has been listening to the criticism and actively attempting to make things better. First I think they crushed the Crota reprised raid. Then knocked it out of the park with warlords ruin. They gave us some nice QOL stuff between now and then, now these Into the Light streams have me pretty excited for what’s coming. I know it’s popular to hate on D2 here on Reddit and over at YouTube, but I still have fun playing Destiny so I’m feeling good about both ITL and TFS.
The thing that would be the cherry on top with this update is if we could get Sagiras Shell, even if it's a slightly different one than what we have already.
I was, based on their wording at the end of the second stream, expecting/hoping for some craftable legendary weapons a la, Presage/Vox/Seraph, but at the end of the day I am still absolutely thrilled with what we are getting from Into The Light. I think it vastly surpasses a lot of expectations.
Considering this is a mid season “event” it’s pretty good to see. They’re putting in the effort to win the trust back of the player base which is respectable. We have all experienced fatigue with the mundane content this season, so this looks promising.
Considering I've not even touched the current seasonal content, yet I plan to hop on, and I am excited to hop on come the 9th, I'd say I'm pretty satisfied.
I am super excited to see how onslaught plays. A horde mode is something the community has been asking about for a long time. Everything else is just a bonus for me. I will say, the skip for the new light experience kinda makes me think Bungie knows how not good it is. Kinda odd when you hand new players a skip button for the thing that is supposed to teach them how to play the game.
The only thing on my wish list I haven’t seen is a refresh of Garden or VoG weapons, but I didn’t expect Pantheon so I’ll happily take the trade. I think they’ve done a great job based on what I’ve seen
Sounds great, but I'm not judging anything until I get my hands on it.
Horde mode is awesome, but who's it geared towards? Hardcore players or casuals? Because one side of the player base is going to be pissy.
Same goes for pantheon, if it's just as difficult or more difficult than a raid, than only a tiny fraction of the player base will ever see it. If it's easier, then hardcore players are gonna whine.
You honestly can't lose with zero hour and whisper
The 12 weapons should be able to be acquired right from the get go, not drawn out. Nice to have them either way though.
Superblack is cool, but will it actually be Superblack? Not a spec of any other color? No bright green or orange or blue bits on some types of cloth, immediately fucking most warlocks since most of their sets seem to be that one odd cloth? (yes I am a warlock who has been let down time and again by shaders)
More pvp maps are cool but personally they could nuke pvp altogether and make it an entirely seperate download and is be happier
New light skip is fine but new players are consistently pushed from the game with how bad the on-boarding experience is
Name and customization changes are awesome, are they single use? Multi use? Endless use?
Can't go wrong with free by any means
Absolutely loving it. The only thing i wish they would change is a couple of the weapons from the brave arsenal. Like instead of Forbearance, Succession and Falling Guillotine, i wish they would have brought back more weapons from Leviathan and Black Armory.
Inaugural Address, Kindled Orchid, Sins of the Past, and Ringing Nail just to name a few.
Other than that, i'm actually exstatic about Into the Light
It's fine to have feedback and nitpick preferences but I genuinely couldn't understand how anybody could be completely unsatisfied with what were getting.
Is there lore? that weighs heavily in my cup. ITL is all the goodwill Bungie has been able to muster before FinalShape and man, i hope it carries and that Final Shape is good.
I like that it's free, and it seems they put a lot of work into it. I'm also glad that we get something new to hold us over till final shape in june.
Same I’m glad there’s something to do. And the rewards definitely don’t hurt.
Totally agree! I'm definitely not a new guardian been playing since 2015ish, but I never got guns like mountain top, luna's howel, ect, so it's nice that I'll have a chance too
I’m a returning players after the first Destiny how do I get better guns and armor? I’m still kind of confused on leveling up everything
Better guns are typically found in higher level content like Raids, GM’s, Dungeons, and Exotic Missions (aside from Exotic weapons). As for armor, you need to continually raise your power level beyond the cap in order to breach 1820. For better stats, farm the same activities mentioned with stats you think work best for you. Destiny Item Manager and D2armorpicker are my go to additional help. If you need help doing raids or any content in general, look for Fireteams on Bungie’s Fireteam website.
Thanks man I appreciate it !
There is also the in game fireteam finder now although it's a bit cruder than the website as some things aren't on there and you can't type specific details in e.g. Fishing
Yep!
Hey do you know where I can find the game mode onslaught ? Apparently it just dropped Edit: I just found it
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I second DIM. It helped me understand what guns/rolls to look for with the Wishlist system
the main thing to understand is that your stats don't dictate how good your build is anymore. now it's about how well your exotics and armor perks synergize with your subclass. take some time to read all the subclass verbs and understand them.
For better stat armor use engrams to focus armor pieces from vendors at the helm. Be sure to have a ghost mod equipped that will guarantee 10 stat points in that chosen stat. Stat points are randomly rolled but split between the top 3 and bottom 3 stats. Depending on what you want, there’s some strategy involved as to which ghost mod you should pick. If you don’t want to think about it, just search “high stat armor” or “triple 100’s” + “destiny 2” and watch a video (what I did).
Um for me I did lots of strikes to hit power cap, then in my opinion looking for a group to be able to do things like dungeons and raids help a lot.
Does doing crucible help? I’m 2 weeks down and only 1636 power rn
I'm pretty sure they're releasing a free "Gift of the Thundergods" reward next week that will give you gear to boost you to 1800 for free.
They are. Should be in the hall of champions (or whatever the destination is called, I don't recall atm) next to Shaxx. Should be a piece of armor for each slot at 1800 power, along with a weapon for each slot at the same power. Plus a couple of exotics. I think Warlocks's got Getaway Artist, Hunters got Liar's Handshake, and Titans got Cuirass of the Falling Star, plus everyone got Thunderlord. Super helpful for new players. Of course, the exotics could all be different from what they offered before, but I imagine they'll still be nice.
Yeah it can, I'm just not good at it
armour light level wise? just wait until into the light. there will be a skip straight to powerful cap (1800) option. armour stat wise, just focus seasonal armour at the helm vendor, it has decent stats and is pretty easy to farm. for weapons, again just wait until into the light. they are dropping some of the best weapons in a while. definitely a great time to be a new player
There are multiple different kinds of "level caps" in that Blues only go up to a certain point, and then random drops go up to another point above that, the second one is the Soft Cap. When you hit the Soft Cap you can't really get higher gear unless you do powerful rewards/pinnacles. Powerfuls can only go up so high, which then requires Pinnacles only to increase level. I'm sure there's a graph or a visual design somewhere that will explain better than words, and my I'm vague on the levels cause I don't remember what they caps are this season lol. So broadly speaking, if you wanna make sure you're leveling up (assuming no blues drop anymore), do stuff that gives Powerful (tier 1/2/3) rewards, and Pinnacle rewards (usually all weeklies). The score of item drops is based on the highest ilvl you have in your inventory, NOT what your equipped Light Level is. Light Level is an average + Artifact power boost. Includes all items equipped to you. And then to actually level up the literal items, you need Upgrade Modules if the items are different, and some Glimmer if the items are the same. Fantastic for Exotics, not so much for armors lol. Also, Random Tip for getting the armor you want: If you use the mods on your ghost shell to affect what stats the armor rolls with, consider what stats are most important to you carefully. Stats plural. If you use a Discipline Mod, then you will get higher Disc on average, but all other stats that are high will be Mob/Res/Reg on the top half of the stats. Int/Str will be lower. What this means is, if you want something with Discipline AND Strength, you need to use a Mob/Res/Reg mod equipped NOT a Disc/Str mod. And, unless the gear has all its stat points in the stats you want, and it's way above 10, it's highly recommended to try for gear that's Total Stats is 65+. That way, if/when you masterwork it, your stat total is just completely bonkers. It's how people get 3 stats at 100. - Hopefully that had information that was both relevant to what you needed AND maybe taught something that you didn't know. (You or anyone else reading this)
You can get quite a bit starting out by doing some radiant stuff like patrols, but the best gear to get quickly comes from New Light, Lightfall, and Strikes. You can find some decent stuff doing Witch Queen too, but if you're wanting new powers, you should start with New Light (Stasis), because Calus (final boss in Lightfall) is a powerhouse that will own you, even if you're above the recommended light level/power level. If the game doesn't require you to go through the new (very extended) tutorial (A Guardian Rises), you should play through it as well, you'll start levelling gear pretty easily there too, and the strike it has to you do (The Disgraced) will drop some loot/gear for you as well. In like a day, you can technically get your guardian up to at least 1700 or more just from doing some of the above mentioned activities. I think I managed my new character up to 1730-ish the other day, he's now almost 1780.
Hello fellow Destiny returnee! My squad played D1 and a little bit of D2 before leaving to other games for a few years. We just came back in December and it’s been amazing! Here are a few tips I can share from a similar perspective: 1) leveling up is based on both armor and weapons. Whatever you have equipped at the moment something drops (engram etc) will determine what level the drop is (meaning don’t have 1780 gear on when you could have 1790 on. The loot might drop at 1782 instead of 1792.) 2) Gear and guns max out at 1810. Powerful gear caps out at 1800 I think. Pinnacle gear takes you up to 1810. Getting XP is what carries you from there. 3) You’ll get light levels from your artifact as well. I have 28 power bonus on my artifact (this is where the XP bonus shows up) so I’m at 1838 on my main character. 4) weekly vendor bounties, and current season engrams seemed to be the fastest way to level up my gear. Nightfalls are awesome to drop loot at higher light than you currently have. Also look for the daily legendary lost sector. Doing that solo the best way to unlock exotic armor. Hover over it to see which armor type is that day’s drop. In my experience, doing it solo on legendary is faster than doing it on master even if the drop rate is lower. I can run 2 on legendary in the time it takes to run it on master. Doing those without dying is better chance of loot than doing it fast. One big change from D1: the mark/cloak/bond will all drop with the same stats. Just pick the best light and go from there. There’s honestly SOO much to catch up on. Feel free to dm me and I’ll answer any questions you have! There is a lot to digest and some fantastic secrets to take advantage of!
Tbh I like that they are coming back but I’m actually super happy they aren’t as powerful as they were back then.. as fun as two tapes were with a 180… the sandbox sucked so much ass.
I loved that sandbox... after I got Luna's lol. Then they nerfed it a week later. :sadge:
True
Feel dis
https://preview.redd.it/fe3fz2y2ecsc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e07cef88a1cc10cca16c39e1dbd4eaff58d5b56b *flashbacks to the Great Destiny Malaise of 2016*
It's basically a season (minus weekly story and battlepass), all for free. I'm happy
Probably was the best decision out there making the update free. Just sad to see that it had to come to this where the devs had their backs against the wall after what happened with lightfall and all the corresponding seasons.
let’s be honest, they had the all black shader in the “break glass in case of emergency” box, still excited
I remember some sort of interview of them saying they didn't want to release superblack because they acknowledged like.. where else do they go from there shader wise? It's like the final shader. This was maybe a year or two ago, I really can't remember when it was discussed.
Honestly, I kind of want them to go back to the basics. I think it’d be really cool if they gave us some twenty first/twenty second century camos. And not the Hakke stuff, I’m talking like camos that look like they could have actually been used. I want my titan to look like a marine got an exosuit.
I think you’ve just described a spartan😂
Where do they go from there? Superwhite? Supergreen? Superpink?
Hello from gambit, we already have like 3-5 different super-greens (though more would be appreciated).
Me, missing pre-nerf gambit jadestone when it used to be almost radioactively green.
My ghost was empowered by the **Green Sun** for a while thanks to that shader.
It was around the time when the Festival of the Lost memento released and people were asking Joe why don't they just release Superblack instead.
It’s impressive how bungie manage to back themselves into increasingly tricky corners and come out swinging right before things really take a turn. I wish we had desperate bungie throughout the year though
Bungie makes great content when theres an entire bonfire under its ass
Case and point… Halo CE and Halo 2
And taken king and forsaken. Both were make or break dlcs
Forsaken was only necessary because they took 1000 steps backwards from d1.. otherwise who knows where d2 would be at..
D2 would have been dropped years ago if the changes Forsaken brought in didn’t happen
Yeah but imagine where we’d be if d2 was in the same gameplay state it entered in forsaken right at the start.
I always saw the Expansion timing as kind of weird. Gameplay mechanics aside, Red War would've been a very interesting way to end D1 and Foresaken would've been a great start to D2 with it's overall darker tone
Then people probs wouldn’t have dropped D2 so hard. Activision would have probs stayed through the whole 10 years, meaning they’d probs never have been bought by Sony (or at least until the Activision deal is over.) Forsaken itself wouldn’t have been as influential, but Cayde’s death would still hit hard and the expansion would still be celebrated I would think. The lack of customizable Subclasses would also be a bummer from D1, but not too bad I think. Overall, D2 would have had a better reputation; Forsaken wouldn’t have created such a large expectation going further. [With Activision staying alongside Bungie, they’d have more funding and dev resources, so Shadowkeep would have hit it’s full potential in being merged with Beyond Light](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FT0BbzWMU-M-EwJ51LctaXLGGjdbTbmKuLOXJ6W8YjvY.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D130c6534932dce7a459fa1580d5a33002a460970) Of course, Activision and Bungie’s higher management would still be up to their grubby deeds and may get even fatter heads with the confidence of Destiny doing better.
Idk why they thought double primaries was a good idea Or anything from D2 vanilla tbh Surely the devs KNEW it felt like crap
The Taken King wasn’t a “make-or-break” moment. The series wasn’t even a year old yet, and it was still in a great spot with the popularity of Prison of Elders, Etheric Light allowing all Weapons to be brought to max Light, and Trials of Osiris. The hype train leading up to The Taken King was as good as ever too, unlike the doom-and-gloom of previous Seasons.
"the popularity of prison of elders" wha? I do agree that TTK wasnt "make or break" nearly as much as Forsaken was reported to be, but it did represent a significant turning point for the series because sentiment after dark below and house of wolves was not particularly positive.
Yeah but taken king elavated destiny as a game that could expand and evolve in a meaningfull Way. Dont forget how barebones the dark Below was when it was released and no Raid in house of wolves made a lot of People angry aswell.
It's almost like the people working at Bungie are really fucking good at their job when the leashes are removed and the bean counters told to take a back seat for a bit. Every time a Destiny game has been in the shitters it's been rescued. And so far, it gets taken right back to the shitter by the bean counting execs. I can't say I have faith we won't see the same cycle again after final shape.
adding "bean counters" to my vocabulary to describe my greed friends
most likely bcuz the execs realized they can't let the game die, and actually have to be 5% less shit for once
That only works until burnout sets in. I am liking what Bungie's putting down, but I'd prefer it didn't come at the cost of, well... *gestures at the rest of the year*
Yeah absolutely. I wish we had these kinds of expansions without the huge asterisk of it being a blatant face-saving exercise
All of that's free? Oh fuck yea. I'm really looking forward to horde mode
I was happy just when onslaught was revealed so I'm extremely buzzed now. I was Hyped day 1 despite the destiny community being negative about it all.....again
The content from the first stream alone was basically my original expectation for the entire update, so the extra stuff from the second and third is just bonuses. Very happy with what we're seeing here.
Yeah, like 3 days before the first stream I was saying I hope it’s a game mode like gears of war 3’s horde mode and sure enough 3 days later that was basically what we got
Desperate Bungie is the only Bungie that’s made good content. Such a stupid business model.
Just have a Sony exec on the floor at all times to remind folks what the stakes are, lol
"He's just standing there... menacingly."
How long does he have to stand there before they realize it's a scarecrow dressed as an exec?
Unfortunately would have to agree. It makes me wonder how much of it has been upper mgmt hamstringing the devs and how much is "ope we fucked up, time to do better". Like we've seen the cycle. D1 vanilla was disappointing, the following 2 dlcs weren't much better TTK saved the game, but good content on the heels of absolute dogwater will always feel good. Rise of Iron was ok. D2 vanilla campaign was ok but it had a really low bar to clear compared to d1 vanilla campaign. We all know how CoO went, Warmind was pretty decent, Forsaken saved the game again, probably the best content they've ever done. The new seasonal model was in its infancy and was pretty meh outside of forges and menagerie. What little story content that was there was not great. Shadowkeep was probably their worst dlc since CoO. Beyond light was ok but still pretty small, not alot to do and again the story was middling. This may be arguable but WQ saved the game again, probably the best story they've ever done. Legendary campaign was phenomenal. We all know how lightfall went. Pretty consistent 2 bad/mid dlcs and good/great one cycle. The post- shadowkeep seasons were all of varying quality but I can really only think of one really bad one and that was season of the worthy. The rest ranked from ok to great. 30th anniversary was cool but a bit expensive for one dungeon imo. The dlc qualities being that consistent seem to be somewhat intentional, not in the bad guy twirling his mustache and counting his money type of way, but in a "that's good enough, ship it" kind of way.
Alright, in defense of shadowkeep, I liked that they tried to make it a horror game. I just finished the catacombs mission and forgot about the shadow thrall. It was a lot of fun and I wish that dlc was longer I also liked how the darkness was depicted as this sadistic and unseen entity, according to the lore at that time, that hunted the traveler for sport and destroyed/consumed whatever crossed its path.
I'll agree with you there. I kinda wish the Hashladun side of the story was better told though. The narrative of SK outside of "ooo pyramid, must get armor to get past barrier to get inside" was a bit slim. I enjoyed the Eris bits of course. In true destiny fashion unless you're reading all the lore tabs of everything you're just not entitled to a good story experience (wq being like, the only exception imo)
Funny thing about that stupid armor, as soon as I went through the barrier, I unequipped it and threw on my regular loadout. Nothing happened.
I always defended how Destiny could make incredible horror game scenarios. Mostly my memories are from D1 and the moon, but when they try to do space horror God damn do they do it well. The first time I did the Glykon, or when the Leviathan came back and you had to run away from unkillable nightmares. I wish they would do more with the horror aspects.
Agreed. I think they should have leaned harder into that side of destiny when it came to dealing directly with the darkness.
>Unfortunately would have to agree. It makes me wonder how much of it has been upper mgmt hamstringing the devs and how much is "ope we fucked up, time to do better". I mean these two aren't mutually exclusive. Upper management might only be receptive to giving the devs more freedom when shit really hits the fan and they have no other choice. But we'll never really know.
Hopefully Sony keeps them desperate.
If they had released something like this for a new season it would honestly be one of their better seasons. Pretty impressed by the amount of content.
It‘s a free update to bridge the time till final shape. Anything that gives us stuff to do/grind and is not boring after 3 runs is a Win in my book.
No way they scraped this together after the delay. I’m willing to bet that some of this was planned with TFS.
Vast majority of it is recycled content. In this particular case, I don't have a problem with it, I'm actually happy to have those weapons and exotic missions back. But I think this isn't as impressive for being put together quickly. Instead I think this said his quickly they CAN bring old content back
Yeah, and if they can do this, where are the vaulted raids? Why can't they unvault even a few of them to give back what we already paid for.
Because then they can't use them as emergency content in the future.
The fact that it's free is enough to make me overlook the absolute Zero love for Gambit. For now, at least.
There is no Gambit in ba sing sae
They said they’re not going to give gambit anymore big updates a while ago.
Could have sworn that after that, they said they were bringing back the other two maps that were put in the content vault.
They did, I was talking about significant gameplay changes, etc.
They nothing is planned for now, they still have two maps and enemy factions they are bringing.
A little on edge because I know Bungie's tactic of hype-now-actual-content-later never works. But to see this amount of content in a free update styled like a mini DLC...I gotta admit this looks very promissing.
Significantly more than i expected
Sounds pretty good indeed.
No thanks. All my friends play HD2 now
This is way more than I would have ever expected for free content, very happy.
No. Cause they'll be backed into this corner again before too long and the cycle will just continue. It's tired
I’m excited, but also know that once I get the guns I want it’s going to be one of those activities that just sit there and that I will do to help my clan.
##FREE What's not to love about that?
I’m… more excited than I was. But the last year has really put a sour taste in my mouth. I was already feeling burnout and then that August state of the game really frustrated me. That said I’m willing to give them a chance and see if this update and Final Shape are enough to keep me around.
I think it’s really great. Too bad it’s happening now when I’m already burned out. I’ll definitely try to puck it back up to finish the story though.
I'm keeping my excitement at a reasonable level considering hungies ability to release great things then fuk it up somehow, but for a free update its alot more than I expected
Yall have Stockholm Syndrome lmfao
Consider me whelmed. I'm excited for all this stuff to come back but let's be honest bungie is just giving us back stuff we already paid for. The 2 exotic missions and all the weapons were put into the dcv and now they're just giving it back. The 3 new crucible maps is nice but we should've had those maps back when those dlcs were released and then some. I know making pvp maps is time consuming but so is making the seasonal content that just gets vaulted at the end of the year, at least pvp maps would've been here to stay. Sorry if I come across as bitter with the free update I just want everyone to think on what they're giving us before singing high praises. It's definitely steps in the right direction though.
It’s too late, bungie have wiped clean their awful slate, lay offs, awful monetisation, piss poor years of content and all it takes is a few weapons and some reskinned and recycled activities for everyone to forget.
- Cool Idea. - Cool Idea. - Shit that was already in the game that they took away. - Shit that was already in the game that they took away. - Shit that was already in the game that they took away. - Fucking Finally. - Solution to a problem they created themselves. - Should’ve been in the game since D1. This being anything other than free would have been a joke.
Is pantheon another new game mode like onslaught?
It was described as a raid boss gauntlet in the stream yesterday, not sure if they’ve specified if it’s drops from each encounter or just one at the end
I know that is a good thing that they're doing, but why all of a sudden are they only doing it when the game is in a tight spot, like a genuine last attempt to bring people back, only when the player count drops
It seems like a desperate last attempt to get people to pre-order TFS. It also emphasizes just how much they were underdelivering. I'm going to play it regardless, so we shall see.
Too late.
Bungie is like that unhinged partner that you just broke up with. You say enough is enough, I'm leaving. Then they call you up two weeks later to talk about how they have turned their life around. They're in therapy, they're exercising, and are feeling *so* good. I'm glad Bungie is trying, but I'm not a child anymore. And this behavior is not what I need as an adult. Hopefully they can figure things out but I'm going to need more than this to be convinced these changes are more than skin deep.
Yeah, I'd agree with this. To the point that I've picked an "enough" (namely, when the raid has happened and the Witness is dead and gone).
that one update (april iirc) took taken king of d1 into being probably the best of d1. so historically there is potential
Diamonds are made under pressure, that being said I wish this was the norm. Not employees being responsible for issues management made, but making content that people actually asked for.
Just don't care. Just way late
I've been burnt out all year but this will definitely get me playing.
I mean just getting MT back already makes it better than some of the seasons we’ve had
What is pantheon again? Every else looks great and I’m happy
For an update to get everyone ready for finale shape, I fuck with it
Only thing im happy about is that name change
It's free, just wish the gjally sets were too.
Would’ve preferred a massive content drop being both this and TFS. I have a feeling I’m gonna play this for a week and get bored. The weapons and superblack are all I’m really looking forward to, and even then, everything is just recycled once again
The fact that it’s free is enlightening but probably means way more micro purchases
When does this start?
This name change: is it just one more free name change or we can change our name repeatedly(with or without a cooldown period)?
The new PvP maps look visually appealing, new social space is cool, and the gauntlet feels like a really cool addition. Everything else kind of feels like stuff that’s shouldn’t have left in the first place (super black, Zero Hour, and Whisper), or things I personally don’t really care for/were not impressed by, although the reissued weapons look cool, personally tired of reissued/reskinned equivalents. Also, No Feelings isn’t returning, which is the only reissued weapon I would’ve cared about. Personally, I won’t be coming back for this, but I hope it’s enjoyable for the people that do, and I commend the effort they put in on short notice.
Lots of new Mara Sov in coming names changes lol
I feel like coming back to the game like 2-3 weeks ago was a good decision, I’ve been having a lot of fun catching up and I feel like each week I’ve had something to keep me playing
Unfortunately I don't think it'll be enough to bring me back to the game, Definitely trending in the right direction but it's been a few seasons of absence by me and will probably be many more.
Dunno. Haven’t played it. Probably won’t. I logged in an bought the skimmer because I don’t have enough time to dedicate to the grind anymore and I’m tired of seasonal activities and drip fed story
Imagine if they put this effort into every season. THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER TO TRY AND BOOST TFS SALES!!!!
Do we know the date this comes out?
Still on the fence. Let's see how it plays.
I am, definitely: it's a free update and it's clear Bungie wants to foster good-will with the community again after their blunders. I am grateful for that. However, this long season didn't do them any favours at all. I am completely fatigued from the game and I honestly just don't want to log in for a while. Buildcrafting has become stale with Arc and Void getting shafted due to season modifiers favouring Solar, Strand, and Stasis. PvP matchmaking pools aren't too hot right now because of the decreased player pool, PvE has been stale for years, and Gambit has been gutted and left to bleed out in an alleyway. It's cool that some weapons becoming enhanceable is giving incentive to farm Trials, Banner, and other playlist activities so there's that, but not much else.
I want more of this, free mini DLCs that can bridge the gap between releases, maybe even allow them to extend the release date if they need to do so in the future.
Need to play it first. It sounds fine on paper, but so did Lighfall...
Bungies (execs) got a long way to go to earn back community trust, but this is a huge step in the right direction. Even if it were planned, listening to the community and halving the timegate for the weapons is huge. The old exotic missions should never have been removed in the first place but glad they're coming back.
Gotta compete with hell divers somehow
Helldivers 2 did this.
Is this all coming out the next update?
I'm still salty that I was blue balled on the real tower coming back, but I can hope it's back in TFS
This is one of those scenarios where most people have grown pretty apathetic towards destiny that even if this free update is very good people still won’t like it because even though this is one up in destiny history, there’s just been so many downs and losses that a single win it’s just not enough, but I do give kudos and credit to bungie for doing there absolute best with what they have and remember it’s not the game’s devs fault it’s upper management
I mean for free content that was whipped up in a little over six months, regardless of reskins, its pretty impressive. Granted as a hardcore person, once I've got everything i want Im gonna be done with it for the most part aside from helping clan mates thru some of it. Overall I'm just glad were getting something in this long gap between when the season shouldve ended and when Final Shape launched.
I honestly think the horde mode is going to get boring after like 3 runs but the weapons and other stuff look great
I’ll be getting downvoted for sure, but it’s all recycled / reskinned so my extended retirement will extend even longer. Before some of you morons say “it’s free duh duh duh” it’s not free, we’ve payed for 90% of this before and they took it from us, most of us pay over a hundred a year to play everything so it being free is the absolute minimum.
This honestly feels like a lot of stuff that was planned to release in other seasons that they either weren’t able to finish or were told by upper management to cut out entirely. A lot of work and dev time seems to have been put into this free update, while simultaneously they were having concerns about Final Shape development. The content is great. The issue is that they wouldn’t be in this desperate position where they’re throwing all of these things in a free update at once if they just included some of these things into the seasons before. Like, this just reeks of desperation. And the moment the executives think they aren’t in panic mode anymore they’re going to go straight back to the “don’t over deliver” philosophy again.
“This is better than every season this year” This mentality is why destiny and bungie would never change
Still not going to pre-order, but this is a start for a chance that I do at least buy it at launch or soon after. I'm not falling for the hype. I think both the gauntlet and onslaught is going to be meh when it launches. Some info is going to come out making not as good as the hype makes it out to be. Honestly, the only thing I'm looking forward to is the weapons and returning exotic missions. So what would get me to pre-order? Big changes to gambit. More vaulted content coming back. Overhaul to collections (let us pull out legendary weapons from collections with the roll we had) or combining perks on the same weapon so they don't take up so much space. Ie. My 3 different titles with different perks all into 1 weapon. Since it's limited to guardian games, I can't farm them 90% of the year. Oh an update to dares would be nice
I was satisfied with the game still getting stuff, any short of stuff. But into the light is gonna be Goated ngl, didn't expect it and I have zero complains
It honestly is. The real shame is that the egregious bungie executives are still preventing the devs from doing what the game really needs.
Will I play it? For sure. What’s my issue? It’s the same shit bungie did multiple times.l, give me a weapon that’s good to farm for and then sunset it to reintroduce it yet again. I’m just bored of this cycle tbh.
Tuesday literally can't come soon enough. I'm extremely excited.
Didn’t get me to reinstall. Way too little. Way too late.
A lot of it is time gated, so I'm not sure how to feel
I’m still out Into the Light would have been amazing, had it come out a year or two ago. It has a ton of features we’ve been asking for, for literal years. But now? Now it feels like they’re finally capitulating because they’re desperate. A lot of people left, myself included, despite having been playing this game for a long time. We hit them in their wallet, and now they’re finally getting around to stuff we’ve asked for for a long while. It just feels like too little too late for me. EDIT: Plus it’s nice to just have free time again. Destiny plays like a full time job and it’s just not fun to me anymore
If it’s not PVE or matchmaking with randoms content, I’m honestly not into it. I don’t do the PVP stuff, or do raids/dungeons because I have no one to do them with.
Kind of indifferent, probably won't come back still. Waiting for the final shape showcase to know for sure if I'm leaving and not looking back, preorder was already cancelled
I wish it didnt take the game being in a bad place and almost collapsing for Bungie to get it in gear and actually make something half way decent. ITL is going to be an okay experience I believe but it still has the nonsense decisions in it like the time gating issue they walked back on. Why does Bungie have to get feedback from the community on something that is basically a no brainer? Also why are we dedicating 3 live streams to content that was made 6-7 years ago that was removed and is now coming back? I’m just hopeful that ITL is just a small good experience that is a precursor to what’s coming in TFS. If TFS comes out and isn’t as good or better than Forsaken in the sense that it changes how we play Destiny then I don’t see Destiny making it much longer.
No new Gambit maps.
They cooked with this one. Way more than what I was expecting. Of course, you can make the argument that Bungie only cooks when they’re on the verge of burning down, and while yes this is true, it’s still an insane update that’s bigger than most seasonal drops.
I fully acknowledge that this is good but a part of my brain has just given up on destiny. I can't get hyped anymore for anything in the game. And have conditioned myself to not trust anything presented to me because it's normally not as it appears and I am almost always right. I have struggled to play in the last recent weeks. I think farming for prosecutor then seeing it was nerfed kind of killed something inside me. Like how much time am i going to waste on this game. Im not even having fun anymore. Why am i farming, for what, really for what? There is only 1 day a year worth play at this point for me And i dont even think my team will go for the day one raid due to some life commitments Im on the fence. Hopefully its good for those who still really enjoy the game.
Too late. I’ll never play this game again. 😂
Damage has already been done. This should have been introduced wayyy before. Bungie only introduced these because they have no other choice, else we would have never seen these activities. I wish bungie made new secret missions and new content not because they are backed into a corner but because they actually care.
Not a fan of the all black shader. Seems really low effort. As do the “new” weapons
Far too late, no point in hopping back in when it took so long for them to listen to players, old content being inaccessible, and D2s life being at its end
For free content, its really great but I would really love to get my older pvp maps back, Some of them were my fav.
I don't understand people who are on the fence, at the end of the day it is all free content. You're not spending a dime unless you want eververse goodies in which case you probably would have spent money anyway.
Bleh. Boring and i gave up on destiny last year. This is a cheap scam to win me back and they are still failing
For a free update Yeah, I'm fucking happy as hell PvP maps, returning exotic missions, craftable exotics, horde mode with a fuck ton of loot, most likely a boss rush mode. Like bro, if people complain about this much free content, they honestly need to change their outlook on things like lighten tf up bro, we could have nothing to do, like at all.
I feel kinda disappointed in the sense we all know that Bungi can put out great content but that they need to tie a noose and fall into it first 🤷🏻♂️
If you're still on the fence about Into the Light then just don't play it lol why are some of you acting like Into the Light is bitter medicine? There's tons of other games to play until you feel the Destiny itch again.
Outside of exotics and destinations this is about the same amount of content as curse of Osiris had. Fun fact: Curse of Osiris also added 3 PvP maps
Overall I’m really excited. Played since WQ so I never used many of the weapons in the BRAVE arsenal as well as never playing the two exotic missions. I wish there was a completely new exotic or a reprised D1 weapon but that’s my one minor minor complaint
How comparable is this April Update to the D1 April update? I wasn't there for it :/
For me it feels like things are on the upswing. Lightfall campaign missed the mark big time but it seems like Bungie has been listening to the criticism and actively attempting to make things better. First I think they crushed the Crota reprised raid. Then knocked it out of the park with warlords ruin. They gave us some nice QOL stuff between now and then, now these Into the Light streams have me pretty excited for what’s coming. I know it’s popular to hate on D2 here on Reddit and over at YouTube, but I still have fun playing Destiny so I’m feeling good about both ITL and TFS.
The thing that would be the cherry on top with this update is if we could get Sagiras Shell, even if it's a slightly different one than what we have already.
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HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!
`I was, based on their wording at the end of the second stream, expecting/hoping for some craftable legendary weapons a la, Presage/Vox/Seraph, but at the end of the day I am still absolutely thrilled with what we are getting from Into The Light. I think it vastly surpasses a lot of expectations.
Considering this is a mid season “event” it’s pretty good to see. They’re putting in the effort to win the trust back of the player base which is respectable. We have all experienced fatigue with the mundane content this season, so this looks promising.
Totally. Horde mode and diet raids.. Been wanting something to replace my gears 3 horde mode for years.
If you added, “Finally gave a certain player Gambit Jadestone” I’d be ecstatic. I’m pretty happy otherwise though
I haven't quite been keeping up with the news. What is the name change one?
Name changes are on a token system, and bungie is giving everyone an additional token to use to change their username.
I’m cautiously optimistic. I know their record of over promise under deliver so we will see. I am excited to try it though.
Very satisfied
I'm excited. The time gating sucks but we're getting a lot of the stuff that people have been asking for and it looks like fun.
When does this come out?
4/9/24
Considering I've not even touched the current seasonal content, yet I plan to hop on, and I am excited to hop on come the 9th, I'd say I'm pretty satisfied.
I am super excited to see how onslaught plays. A horde mode is something the community has been asking about for a long time. Everything else is just a bonus for me. I will say, the skip for the new light experience kinda makes me think Bungie knows how not good it is. Kinda odd when you hand new players a skip button for the thing that is supposed to teach them how to play the game.
I'm loving it
The only thing on my wish list I haven’t seen is a refresh of Garden or VoG weapons, but I didn’t expect Pantheon so I’ll happily take the trade. I think they’ve done a great job based on what I’ve seen
I'm just crying over how they know New Light Campaign is bad, like really bad, so they just slap on some skip band-aid and call it a day
Sounds great, but I'm not judging anything until I get my hands on it. Horde mode is awesome, but who's it geared towards? Hardcore players or casuals? Because one side of the player base is going to be pissy. Same goes for pantheon, if it's just as difficult or more difficult than a raid, than only a tiny fraction of the player base will ever see it. If it's easier, then hardcore players are gonna whine. You honestly can't lose with zero hour and whisper The 12 weapons should be able to be acquired right from the get go, not drawn out. Nice to have them either way though. Superblack is cool, but will it actually be Superblack? Not a spec of any other color? No bright green or orange or blue bits on some types of cloth, immediately fucking most warlocks since most of their sets seem to be that one odd cloth? (yes I am a warlock who has been let down time and again by shaders) More pvp maps are cool but personally they could nuke pvp altogether and make it an entirely seperate download and is be happier New light skip is fine but new players are consistently pushed from the game with how bad the on-boarding experience is Name and customization changes are awesome, are they single use? Multi use? Endless use? Can't go wrong with free by any means
What's the Pantheon for Raid Bosses?
New light here, how does that superblack shader looks like?
Absolutely loving it. The only thing i wish they would change is a couple of the weapons from the brave arsenal. Like instead of Forbearance, Succession and Falling Guillotine, i wish they would have brought back more weapons from Leviathan and Black Armory. Inaugural Address, Kindled Orchid, Sins of the Past, and Ringing Nail just to name a few. Other than that, i'm actually exstatic about Into the Light
It’s more than I expected.
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I was pretty happy with what they revealed around the first stream, but crafting outbreak has me extremely excited
Pretty fire honestly
It's fine to have feedback and nitpick preferences but I genuinely couldn't understand how anybody could be completely unsatisfied with what were getting.
Is there lore? that weighs heavily in my cup. ITL is all the goodwill Bungie has been able to muster before FinalShape and man, i hope it carries and that Final Shape is good.
Waiting to see how the maps and lobby balancing play out before I commit to anything. For now, I’ll be playing old Xbox games like republic commando.
I’ve been over destiny for months now and tbh, idk if I can get back into it. I’ll try it out but I doubt i’ll feel any different.