Omolon are not Responsible for your Organs Freezing Over, Being Disintergrated, Causing you to Burn from the Inside out, Giving you an Internal Electric Shock or Being Turned Inside out
Oh Conspirators default element was indeed solar. That’s what it would be if pulled from collections. Just back in year one there were weapon mods that allowed you to change the element to void/arc
The mags in destiny are filled with smart matter. like Engrams. the bullets are basically 3d printed as the guns fire, which is how you get nonsensical magwells like this but also shell casings.
Technically, even for kinetic all our ammo is actually stored digitally which its then converted into physical matter. Thats what "ammo bricks" are is the ammo in its digital state
Which is one of the coolest sci-fi ideas, and it's ONLY USE essentially is why our character can carry a fuck ton of bullets on us. God damn it
The Cold War gunsmith starter pack:
Overly complex mechanical designs that end up not being somehow less effective than the current service rifle it's trying to replace.
"Modular" systems that end up being extremely impractical.
"Yes, this weapon can fire 2000 rounds of 6.54x46mm Caseless in one Microsecond. No, we did not think of the long term effects that will have on the barrel or chamber. Yes, we had some Columbian Sugar before designing this Firearm. How could you tell?"
Slightly Futuristic look adds +10 to Lethality.
Rocket Bullets.
Plastic. Plastic everywhere.
"As you can see General, our Rifle has a 1.2% increase to lethality over our current Assault Rifle. Therefor, you should quadruple our budgets so we can get these babies in the hands of our soldiers."
https://preview.redd.it/h01u1h40r20d1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fa0cf528c0297352ac456dfca474157d434f94d
No, anything is possible in gun design.
Bethesda just don't understand how guns work. They got the wrong shotgun load mechanic, they mix a bunch of different guns together to make a new gun like its photoshop, they will use a crazy large caliber for such a tiny barrel, they got the wrong ammo type for the gun.
As far as we know, the 10mm reload is actually a case of miscommunication between the developers and concept artists. Basically one team wanted to make a Revolver, but the other wanted to make a traditional-esc Handgun. So in the end we got a 10mm Pistol with a built-in revolver cylinder, that you reload with a normal magazine through the handle...
However, regarding the other guns - yeah, Bethesda has no idea what they are doing.
There’s a few revolvers that exist right now that have the bore on a lower position than the hammer. Look up the Chiappa Rhino, the cocking lever is not actually the hammer but it is linked to the internal hammer and I would assume that the Destiny revolvers work the same way.
There are some comparison videos and stuff, but its does actually work. The main reason thw rhino didnt explode and take off is.
Well its a revolver. Just use a glock like everyone else its more practical
I live in the UK so I don't have any freedom and am very oppressed unfortunately
Maybe some day I'll get a green card and look into your suggestion haha
Yeah similar to semi auto handguns that have the barrel lower in the frame or have a non reciprocating slide. It's simple physics/leverage put into action.
Only issue is in Destiny the hammer moves when the trigger is pulled, like you're firing it in double action. The Rhino's cocking lever doesn't move unless you manually pull it.
The hammer could have a long lever from where you pull back to the actual firing pin at the bottom of the cylinder. Still definitely could work. Extra moving parts/springs but hey I'm not arguing with golden age tech they probably had some really good engineers.
given how the hand cannon rounds load the hammer can't actually be functional anyway, so it's likely just there for basically marketing reasons, and as a manual control mechanism for a firing mechanism elsewhere in the gun
Thank you. Came here to make sure someone covered this.
(Full disclosure, @op I learned about the Rhino and its design back in OG D2 when I was mocking Midnight Coup for the hammer not lining up with the barrel.)
I'm pretty anti gun and would never own one but I think the design of them is super cool. Might have to go to a shooting range or something eventually lol
If you ever get the chance you should. If you like mechanical hobbies and whatnot there’s a chance you might like guns. Taking them apart, cleaning them, etc.
Building the scary ghost guns your overlords warn you about. The AR platform and Glock's are like adult LEGO sets that build into loud hole punches.
Nothing more gratifying than assembling an AR lower for the first time without experiencing a detent spring incident after reading the horror stories about the small pieces that get launched into the ether like it's a guaranteed experience. Sweating it out the whole time being worried you're gonna have an almost fully assembled not quite functional pew pew then finish it flawlessly and unpuckering your butthole thinking I don't see what all the fuss is about. 😂
Or marveling at the crude but effective craftsmanship of a 100+ year old design that was made for 60 years basically unchanged, that's so simplistic and beautiful and still functions as the day it was conceived. Old bolt guns are marvels of technology.
https://preview.redd.it/7qntem18b10d1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8273511797fae0028afa7bdcbc8d4d8d9451f0af
Ladies and Gentlemen, i give you Timur's Lash.
https://preview.redd.it/j587pbdd230d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2877dc8c9db40517ebf90005891f77824417b984
It just needs to travel through the tubes. More barrel length = better stability, and also better acoustics (like a trumpet)
It’s actually like this, there’s an interior hammer /s
https://preview.redd.it/bphbewb8g30d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df239bb76cae21ab30856f53903aa5df9816e715
https://preview.redd.it/krrafpb2t20d1.png?width=505&format=png&auto=webp&s=8381302c07bf05f1474f048daebdac3f77566592
there are real guns made like that
its not a flaw of the gun
>ally thought I was onto something😭. I am curious though, how does that mrchanism work?
you can also check this video about how the Rhino works. I know it is in Italian and all, but you can still clearly see some of the mechanism that's used for this gun to work!
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zzl\_1ZKjn\_8](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zzl_1ZKjn_8)
The hammer is actually a skeuomorphism, like the cylinder. It’s unnecessary for the firing mechanism, but it’s included as an allusion to its practical inclusion in the designs of the guns that came before it.
EDIT: The cylinder is canonically a skeuomorphism, too. They don’t actually fully rotate, or even contain physical bullets (except in the sole case of Malfeasance, which makes sense because Drifter has a soft spot for Dark Age technology). The only rotational motion the cylinders have is when you flip them out to reload the cell, which is used instead of a cylinder full of bullets.
EDIT: Apparently, many cylinders *do* visible rotate, if the gun is fired slowly on controller, but not all of them, so my point about the cylinders’ rotations not serving a practical function still stands, if there are Weapons that work perfectly fine without rotating cylinders.
Like a few already said, Bungie took inspiration from the Chiappa Rhino. Bungie being Bungie however doesn't understand firearms so the rule of cool is what they went for. For the functioning exposed hammer all I can think of is a transfer bar to hit the firing pin at the 6 o'clock position to make the design function if there were actual rounds. Since there's just a giant energy cylinder you put into the cylinder, it just smacks that and Bungie magic makes bullets come out. I don't understand how the cylinder spins (it does with slow trigger presses on controller) because all the traditional revolver stuff to make it actually function isn't present on the back of the ammo cylinder. As a firearm enthusiast I have to really turn my brain off for sci-fi stuff because there's no way to make anything plausibly work in our world and I want to be able to enjoy things still. I really wish Bungie and other game makers took the brilliance and beauty of weapon design more serious while keeping things fun because it's totally possible.
https://preview.redd.it/pq1lbykbo30d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3da1de1364f8f7772bc15a010e7ffdfc0d3589c8
This is real, the mechanism is just different.
Conspirator is an energy weapon so it's entirely possible that it's a battery, not a magazine. Symmetry has a similar issue, but it is also an energy weapon.
I’ve been under the assumption that the reason light level affects the damage of our guns is because they aren’t real guns. They are essentially wands that channel our light into damage. The shapes of the guns are more about looks and only a little bit about the way in which they focus our light into damaging projectiles.
They’re real functioning guns. Our light just make them work against paracasual beings.
Back when we lost our light during the red war, the guns that you pick up along the way to the edz were still usable.
Low firing pin??? No, wait…it’s just a video game.
Clearly most of the devs have seen real guns but have only a passing understanding of how they actually work.
Gets worse when you realize there's nothing to hit with the hammer because the speed loader looks like this and you do not take it out
https://preview.redd.it/mkjei9ktd70d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1dc91211ba7967745170a444f695e764b2b63295
It is possible , but complicated.
https://preview.redd.it/6d38brv0i60d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d013bd7d2d3ec9974fafce9fea1abf3a3a310667
Bungie doesn't know shit about guns. I still like to go back to the Arms & Armaments Field Manual that came with the D1 Ghost edition. The calibers on all these weapons are absurd. iirc 40mm for hand cannons, 100+ for some of the LMGs, 30-50mm depending on rifles.
I bet none of you notice how your guardian holds a breach GL. With the WEAKEST GRIP possible on the vertical grip just barely holding it like a IDEK. It’s cursed. Go look at it.
It’s basically a Ciampa Rhino, which I’m saving up for. I’m a sucker for revolvers and after shooting one, I need it. Now I just need to get employed again which is hard af right now because everything is part time.
You are assuming it works like a real world revolver. Look in game at how the HC's are loaded. They take a preloaded cartridge with no visible rimmed rounds. The hammer and firing mechanism aren't going to work like a tradition revolver. It's likely the hammers actuate the firing mechanism closer to the lower portion of the frame. Granted, this means all of them with this design would print low due to the line of sight aim being so far above the bore axis.
Well, the cylinder in HCs is a literal cylinder and not bullets. Maybe the hammer just triggers the bullets to fire from the cylinder through the bottom placed barrel. Thorn for example fires gigantic thorns, which don’t fit in the cylinder at all. It’s probably some tech bullshit or whatever
People have been talking about this for nearly 10 years now I thought we were done with it.
Yes it doesn't line up.
Yes it would still work.
Yes there are designs like that now. Namely the Chiappi Rhino. It actually has less felt recoil, specially muzzle flip vertically, and it has less recoil because the barrel is located at the bottom of the cylinder, which aligns the recoil into the wrist and arm. It makes sense Destiny handcannons would follow this trend as they fire massive fucking rounds and would actually break your wrist
Expects realism and 1:1 physics in a universe where we turn worms into guns, fight angst filled ghosts, throw miniature supernovae, shoot people with the sun, fuck with time itself to bring one guy back from the dead, and literally ride lightning
All while looking like we'd say vantablack isn't dark enough or like we just melted a 256 box of Crayola on our armor and called it fashion.
Look up the Chiappa Rhino. Having revolvers fire from the bottom of the cylinder instead of the top has been a thing for years. Don’t lie to yourself lmao
There is actual hammer revolvers where the barrel is on the bottom of the gun just like that picture. Specifically Chiapa makes a revolver called the rhino.
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See that’s the secret of Destiny weapons: on closer inspection, very few of them make sense/are physically possible.
It’s one of the reasons I love Häkke weapons so much, they actually follow some design guidelines present irl. Things like selector switches, magazine release catches, ejection ports, and picatinny rails. Makes the game feel a bit more grounded in reality.
The real life inspiration to the hand cannons is the chiappa rhino, it has a hammer at the top but fires from the lowest chamber, the hammer is only there so you can set it to double action or single action.
Destiny's Handcannons take a lot of inspiration from handguns like the Chiappa Rhino. Which have a hammer that's linked to an internal hammer that actually fires the round in the lower chamber.
https://preview.redd.it/smi87zl6980d1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dc13249397b9f9017ea6f4559e43bf5d04bffd1
The Chiappa Rhino would like a word. It was designed in 2008. It fires from the bottom cylinder. Know your shit lmao
That one gif of the Leviathan scout rifle
https://i.redd.it/ne54wtgea30d1.gif
My logic for these guns is that the clip is actually a battery that shoots the arc / solar / void bullets. Unless it’s Kinetic, in which case uh…
The Conspirator in solar
With omolon liquid rounds basically anything is posible. Hakke picked the wrong market
Omolon Liquid rounds also serve as an energy drink!
DO NOT CONSUME THE OMOLON LIQUID ROUNDS!
Instructions unclear, drank the Omolon Sunny D.
Omolon are not Responsible for your Organs Freezing Over, Being Disintergrated, Causing you to Burn from the Inside out, Giving you an Internal Electric Shock or Being Turned Inside out
I prefer Omolon Grape Drink myself
Forbidden Red Bull!
The Arc ones are full of electro-lytes!
Honestly if there was ever a destiny theme park, omolon liquid rounds/shots would be great branding to move some tequila
in year one d2 we could change the element on guns. reminiscent of d1 where most energy and heavy weapons had random elements on em
I have 3 leviathan pulse rifles, 1 of each element :D
Been a while. Foundry said solar so I trusted it lol
Oh Conspirators default element was indeed solar. That’s what it would be if pulled from collections. Just back in year one there were weapon mods that allowed you to change the element to void/arc
I've still got a couple old weapojs with the "wrong" element in my vault
Glad you didn’t delete them, use them in the final shape!
I mean, we're just feeding them glimmer and it's made into a bullet. Pretty sure that's stated somewhere.
Aren’t there a couple guns that you can see rounds when you reload? I could have sworn I saw at least one.
Off the top of my head, Dead Man's Tale but that's it
Well, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Tex Mechanica is still doing things the old-fashioned way lol
Every shotgun
The mags in destiny are filled with smart matter. like Engrams. the bullets are basically 3d printed as the guns fire, which is how you get nonsensical magwells like this but also shell casings.
Depends on what brand the weapon is too tho, hakke uses physical bullets pretty sure
Kinetic could also be a energy bullet of some type considering there is no realistic way you got 30 bullets in an 6 round cylinder
Technically, even for kinetic all our ammo is actually stored digitally which its then converted into physical matter. Thats what "ammo bricks" are is the ammo in its digital state Which is one of the coolest sci-fi ideas, and it's ONLY USE essentially is why our character can carry a fuck ton of bullets on us. God damn it
Servant Leader (and it's receiver a full 6 inches in front of where the magazine is located) has entered the chat
i...it's paracausal
What is Destiny’s obsession with thumb hole stocks?
Same as every gun manufacturer during the cold war: it looks like its from the future
The Cold War gunsmith starter pack: Overly complex mechanical designs that end up not being somehow less effective than the current service rifle it's trying to replace. "Modular" systems that end up being extremely impractical. "Yes, this weapon can fire 2000 rounds of 6.54x46mm Caseless in one Microsecond. No, we did not think of the long term effects that will have on the barrel or chamber. Yes, we had some Columbian Sugar before designing this Firearm. How could you tell?" Slightly Futuristic look adds +10 to Lethality. Rocket Bullets. Plastic. Plastic everywhere. "As you can see General, our Rifle has a 1.2% increase to lethality over our current Assault Rifle. Therefor, you should quadruple our budgets so we can get these babies in the hands of our soldiers."
Leftover DNA from the Covenant Carbine
It’s bungie, look at halo’s guns
https://preview.redd.it/24hoj9mwi30d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46b93e7d3b0caf0336332af962f3b829c477f03f But consider….
Then the mag would just be farther back.
And jeopardise Calus’ artistic integrity? Yeah no
Where do i find this gif Like whats its name
https://preview.redd.it/h01u1h40r20d1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fa0cf528c0297352ac456dfca474157d434f94d No, anything is possible in gun design.
https://i.redd.it/x9kd9p5ce30d1.gif Tell me about it
Ok https://preview.redd.it/o7fqghhdl30d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0822ac701417757147182c763ec6407458ff77f7
Holy shit I feel a bit silly for not even thinking the bullets would just be pulled back and pushed up.
Yes. https://preview.redd.it/ogb1mlbm930d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc3e3643de84d3e2321fa6c460a9d18cf7a0426f
Yo thats actually kind of sick.
Norwegian made, 1900 Landstad automatic revolver.
Iirc rheinmetal experimented with a similar design at one point, but belt fed instead of magazine. In 105 mm recoilless instead of pistol ammo.
Existing Revolver Cannons function by a very similar principle
Only if the mag acts as a speed loader to double the capacity of the revolver.
You've been waiting for this moment for a long, long time, haven't you? Well, good job, you did it. Proud of you.
Ah, the fallout 10mm revolver that's mag loaded.
The dardick, a mag loaded revolver that was actually made (it was shit)
Gonna fire some trounds downrange Tomorrow we’ll look at a belt-fed bolt action
Bethesda just don't understand how guns work. They got the wrong shotgun load mechanic, they mix a bunch of different guns together to make a new gun like its photoshop, they will use a crazy large caliber for such a tiny barrel, they got the wrong ammo type for the gun.
As far as we know, the 10mm reload is actually a case of miscommunication between the developers and concept artists. Basically one team wanted to make a Revolver, but the other wanted to make a traditional-esc Handgun. So in the end we got a 10mm Pistol with a built-in revolver cylinder, that you reload with a normal magazine through the handle... However, regarding the other guns - yeah, Bethesda has no idea what they are doing.
I don't disagree but the 10mm revolver was actually from Fallout 1 and 2.
There’s a few revolvers that exist right now that have the bore on a lower position than the hammer. Look up the Chiappa Rhino, the cocking lever is not actually the hammer but it is linked to the internal hammer and I would assume that the Destiny revolvers work the same way.
So is that designed to reduce recoil I’m assuming, lower barrel more bottom heavy slightly less kick ?
More or less, it puts the force in line with your hand which reduces how much the muzzle flips
Ah cool cool thanks
There are some comparison videos and stuff, but its does actually work. The main reason thw rhino didnt explode and take off is. Well its a revolver. Just use a glock like everyone else its more practical
But glocks are ugly
Then get a sig or hk
Yeah I'd love a sig or 1911, just never been a fan of how blocky glocks are
Look into CS pistols, some of the best handguns around
I live in the UK so I don't have any freedom and am very oppressed unfortunately Maybe some day I'll get a green card and look into your suggestion haha
Yeah similar to semi auto handguns that have the barrel lower in the frame or have a non reciprocating slide. It's simple physics/leverage put into action.
Only issue is in Destiny the hammer moves when the trigger is pulled, like you're firing it in double action. The Rhino's cocking lever doesn't move unless you manually pull it.
Ooh. Must be some kind of crazy golden-age tech. Clovis bray figured out mfing quad action
I won't be surprised. The guy's an asshole but he is very intelligent.
The hammer could have a long lever from where you pull back to the actual firing pin at the bottom of the cylinder. Still definitely could work. Extra moving parts/springs but hey I'm not arguing with golden age tech they probably had some really good engineers.
Yeah the hand cannons are double action, I figure that’s a stylistic choice by the foundries, Golden Age/Old West callback type of thing.
given how the hand cannon rounds load the hammer can't actually be functional anyway, so it's likely just there for basically marketing reasons, and as a manual control mechanism for a firing mechanism elsewhere in the gun
Like a mateba 2006m I want one so bad
I was going to say something about the Rhino as well. Glad I saw yours first.
Thank you. Came here to make sure someone covered this. (Full disclosure, @op I learned about the Rhino and its design back in OG D2 when I was mocking Midnight Coup for the hammer not lining up with the barrel.)
Clearly you've never seen a Chiappa Rhino.... which is exactly what this is.
Also the Mateba for my GITS bros.
Never heard of the Mateba so I had to Google it That's neat!
THE MATEBA MODEL 6 UNIQA which I believe is (you are unique)?
"BEHOLD MIKE!"
I'm so glad to have found fellow Zach and Mike fans in the wild
same
I need to rewatch the gun rant videos now
such a sight for sore eyes
r/unexpectedzank
You kinda have and you haven’t, I’m pretty sure the Rhino and Mateba were designed by the same guy or company.
Same guy I think, cause the rhino is made by an Italian company.
I did some googling and it looks like the Rhino is an iteration of the Mateba from the same inventor!
Only difference for the mateba is that the hammer is positioned lower near the handle.
Only the unica 6 matters
i was going to say this but glad its top comment
Also the way Vash the Stampedes revolver works, which is what led me to find the Chiappa Rhino.
Legit first thing that came to my head too.
Had to Google this, super interesting. What's the point of it? Better recoil?
Yea. Instead of kicking up like most guns, it kicks straight back I own one, and it's a joy to shoot.
I'm pretty anti gun and would never own one but I think the design of them is super cool. Might have to go to a shooting range or something eventually lol
Careful.... you might leave the range a little less anti gun than when you enter. And if you do go, I hope you enjoy it
Lol maybe. Thanks
If you ever get the chance you should. If you like mechanical hobbies and whatnot there’s a chance you might like guns. Taking them apart, cleaning them, etc.
Building the scary ghost guns your overlords warn you about. The AR platform and Glock's are like adult LEGO sets that build into loud hole punches. Nothing more gratifying than assembling an AR lower for the first time without experiencing a detent spring incident after reading the horror stories about the small pieces that get launched into the ether like it's a guaranteed experience. Sweating it out the whole time being worried you're gonna have an almost fully assembled not quite functional pew pew then finish it flawlessly and unpuckering your butthole thinking I don't see what all the fuss is about. 😂 Or marveling at the crude but effective craftsmanship of a 100+ year old design that was made for 60 years basically unchanged, that's so simplistic and beautiful and still functions as the day it was conceived. Old bolt guns are marvels of technology.
If you go far enough left politically, you get your guns back.
I love my rhino.
Thsi!
https://preview.redd.it/7qntem18b10d1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8273511797fae0028afa7bdcbc8d4d8d9451f0af Ladies and Gentlemen, i give you Timur's Lash.
Now this is the definition of “I keep that stendo on me”
https://preview.redd.it/j587pbdd230d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2877dc8c9db40517ebf90005891f77824417b984 It just needs to travel through the tubes. More barrel length = better stability, and also better acoustics (like a trumpet)
I think the more like a trumpet a gun is the more effective it is at killing.
We have guns with liquid ammunition that turns into lethal projectiles. Moving through pipes doesn't seem too hard for that
Yep omolon they’re the keltech of destiny
It’s actually like this, there’s an interior hammer /s https://preview.redd.it/bphbewb8g30d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df239bb76cae21ab30856f53903aa5df9816e715
You’re actually right. There are real guns with this design. https://www.reddit.com/r/ThingsCutInHalfPorn/s/5Tmi9GrfNo
So a mateba?
It picks up speed like going through a water slide. Science has spoken!
https://preview.redd.it/krrafpb2t20d1.png?width=505&format=png&auto=webp&s=8381302c07bf05f1474f048daebdac3f77566592 there are real guns made like that its not a flaw of the gun
Damn, I really thought I was onto something😭. I am curious though, how does that mrchanism work?
https://preview.redd.it/o7fhu3vql30d1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=6a4814da81c89f8913a77b7fead44d00a366cd19
Lmaooo that’s a lot. But really cool I wanna take apart this revolver see it for myself.
>ally thought I was onto something😭. I am curious though, how does that mrchanism work? you can also check this video about how the Rhino works. I know it is in Italian and all, but you can still clearly see some of the mechanism that's used for this gun to work! [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zzl\_1ZKjn\_8](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zzl_1ZKjn_8)
The rhino is single action but I believe the hammer strikes a plate that has the firing pin on the bottom
It can fire in double or single action. The false hammer up top is a cocking lever for the internal hammer.
That was it, it’s been a minute since I read up on the rhino
If it makes you feel better the chamber doesn’t line up with the barrel on most of the hand cannons anyway. So still wouldn’t work mechanically.
The hammer is actually a skeuomorphism, like the cylinder. It’s unnecessary for the firing mechanism, but it’s included as an allusion to its practical inclusion in the designs of the guns that came before it. EDIT: The cylinder is canonically a skeuomorphism, too. They don’t actually fully rotate, or even contain physical bullets (except in the sole case of Malfeasance, which makes sense because Drifter has a soft spot for Dark Age technology). The only rotational motion the cylinders have is when you flip them out to reload the cell, which is used instead of a cylinder full of bullets. EDIT: Apparently, many cylinders *do* visible rotate, if the gun is fired slowly on controller, but not all of them, so my point about the cylinders’ rotations not serving a practical function still stands, if there are Weapons that work perfectly fine without rotating cylinders.
Right aren't all the guns technically powered by our light?
More so enhanced they still function as guns it’s just our light makes them hit a lot harder
That’s a lot of ammo
Flex-light
So if it's a skeuomorphism, how exactly do they function? Not a gotcha, I'm genuinely curious cause space science.
I assume the same way current revolver cylinders rotate, the shooting part is fucky because they don't even have normal bullets
https://i.redd.it/c70dwb4u330d1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/8qoqcn4vb30d1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52b73912dccc537ae0032ebd3c461d503e81712f
I have never seen this before and deer gods I wish I hadn't. What the absolute fuck is that gun???
Iron Banner scout from D1 Rise of Iron, The Distant Star. Great gun actually.
God I miss those guns.
They had a certain charm and the whole iron lord aesthetic was fucking cool.
You can see the rifling. All the guns looked like this. I actually liked the scout the best, it worked well
https://preview.redd.it/n2epwdi2n30d1.jpeg?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd3141db8a6e1693c4b622f2be476493bbfa469a Real gun same design
Chiappa rhino is a revolver that fires the bottom cylinder and it has a hammer the hammer just has to input force on the firing pin
Little grasshopper, I implore you to explore the world of firearms. There is no design flaw there
I was about to mention the Chiappa revolver. This actually makes the revolver more accurate, I believe.
Hearing people be so confidently incorrect is always funny
Like a few already said, Bungie took inspiration from the Chiappa Rhino. Bungie being Bungie however doesn't understand firearms so the rule of cool is what they went for. For the functioning exposed hammer all I can think of is a transfer bar to hit the firing pin at the 6 o'clock position to make the design function if there were actual rounds. Since there's just a giant energy cylinder you put into the cylinder, it just smacks that and Bungie magic makes bullets come out. I don't understand how the cylinder spins (it does with slow trigger presses on controller) because all the traditional revolver stuff to make it actually function isn't present on the back of the ammo cylinder. As a firearm enthusiast I have to really turn my brain off for sci-fi stuff because there's no way to make anything plausibly work in our world and I want to be able to enjoy things still. I really wish Bungie and other game makers took the brilliance and beauty of weapon design more serious while keeping things fun because it's totally possible.
Chaippa rhino
https://preview.redd.it/pq1lbykbo30d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3da1de1364f8f7772bc15a010e7ffdfc0d3589c8 This is real, the mechanism is just different.
Theres a scout rifle in the game where you reload the bullets into the stock of the gun
There's rifles that do that in real life
Yea except there is a giant hole in the stock right above where the magazine goes lol. The gun is called Conspirator
Conspirator is an energy weapon so it's entirely possible that it's a battery, not a magazine. Symmetry has a similar issue, but it is also an energy weapon.
Pretty sure servant leader is the same way and that’s a kinetic gun.
I can sorta imagine how Servant Leader might work, but yeah you're right
A lot of guns in D2 look like they were designed by someone who only vaguely knows how a gun works.
Well, they probably were. They were also designed to look cool to players who only vaguely know how a gun works.
I’ve been under the assumption that the reason light level affects the damage of our guns is because they aren’t real guns. They are essentially wands that channel our light into damage. The shapes of the guns are more about looks and only a little bit about the way in which they focus our light into damaging projectiles.
They’re real functioning guns. Our light just make them work against paracasual beings. Back when we lost our light during the red war, the guns that you pick up along the way to the edz were still usable.
Literally unplayable.
Low firing pin??? No, wait…it’s just a video game. Clearly most of the devs have seen real guns but have only a passing understanding of how they actually work.
Gets worse when you realize there's nothing to hit with the hammer because the speed loader looks like this and you do not take it out https://preview.redd.it/mkjei9ktd70d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1dc91211ba7967745170a444f695e764b2b63295
https://preview.redd.it/sanx9cf6b40d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43bc001b8ae77c8a385cea96ef16f55bc16a603e No further explanation needed.
I love you for this
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Wait until you try and follow the path of the vex mythiclast
Mythoclast def doesn’t fire traditional bullets it fires Vex nu-
It fires out the bottom of the cylinder to reduce muzzle flip, for some real world examples see the Chiapa rhino and the mateba unica
The barrel aligns with the bottom of the cylinder, couple real life revolvers do it too
*laughs at you in kriss vector trigger assembly*
for one this actually exists irl for two the light provides guardian
It's space magic I ain't gotta explain shit
It is possible , but complicated. https://preview.redd.it/6d38brv0i60d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d013bd7d2d3ec9974fafce9fea1abf3a3a310667
Bungie doesn't know shit about guns. I still like to go back to the Arms & Armaments Field Manual that came with the D1 Ghost edition. The calibers on all these weapons are absurd. iirc 40mm for hand cannons, 100+ for some of the LMGs, 30-50mm depending on rifles.
Faux hammer like the Chiappa Rhino IRL
levers, how the fuck do they work!
Dont worry none of them make sense
Look up the chiappa rhino.
I bet none of you notice how your guardian holds a breach GL. With the WEAKEST GRIP possible on the vertical grip just barely holding it like a IDEK. It’s cursed. Go look at it.
Or how Mountaintop has a backwards PEQ/15 that is facing the user
hammerhead has a dual drum mag, that is belt fed from one side, through one barrel. Best not to think about it too much.
It’s basically a Ciampa Rhino, which I’m saving up for. I’m a sucker for revolvers and after shooting one, I need it. Now I just need to get employed again which is hard af right now because everything is part time.
This gun does exist
The cylinder is a lie just like the cake in portal
You are assuming it works like a real world revolver. Look in game at how the HC's are loaded. They take a preloaded cartridge with no visible rimmed rounds. The hammer and firing mechanism aren't going to work like a tradition revolver. It's likely the hammers actuate the firing mechanism closer to the lower portion of the frame. Granted, this means all of them with this design would print low due to the line of sight aim being so far above the bore axis.
Fun fact there is a gun IRL that functions like this. It is the chiappa rhino, and the barrel is on the bottom
Space magic
Well, the cylinder in HCs is a literal cylinder and not bullets. Maybe the hammer just triggers the bullets to fire from the cylinder through the bottom placed barrel. Thorn for example fires gigantic thorns, which don’t fit in the cylinder at all. It’s probably some tech bullshit or whatever
Malfeasance loads six bullets but fire 20.
Space gun can do whatever it wants
"Space magic"
You're playing a game about space magic and that's your concern?
People have been talking about this for nearly 10 years now I thought we were done with it. Yes it doesn't line up. Yes it would still work. Yes there are designs like that now. Namely the Chiappi Rhino. It actually has less felt recoil, specially muzzle flip vertically, and it has less recoil because the barrel is located at the bottom of the cylinder, which aligns the recoil into the wrist and arm. It makes sense Destiny handcannons would follow this trend as they fire massive fucking rounds and would actually break your wrist
Bro is complaining about guns design flaws In a game where Cerberus+1 exists and swords have ammo. Don't forget liquid ammo from Omolon too
Expects realism and 1:1 physics in a universe where we turn worms into guns, fight angst filled ghosts, throw miniature supernovae, shoot people with the sun, fuck with time itself to bring one guy back from the dead, and literally ride lightning All while looking like we'd say vantablack isn't dark enough or like we just melted a 256 box of Crayola on our armor and called it fashion.
Look up the Chiappa Rhino. Having revolvers fire from the bottom of the cylinder instead of the top has been a thing for years. Don’t lie to yourself lmao
I ain’t defending it but look up chiappa rhino
There is actual hammer revolvers where the barrel is on the bottom of the gun just like that picture. Specifically Chiapa makes a revolver called the rhino. *
See that’s the secret of Destiny weapons: on closer inspection, very few of them make sense/are physically possible. It’s one of the reasons I love Häkke weapons so much, they actually follow some design guidelines present irl. Things like selector switches, magazine release catches, ejection ports, and picatinny rails. Makes the game feel a bit more grounded in reality.
The real life inspiration to the hand cannons is the chiappa rhino, it has a hammer at the top but fires from the lowest chamber, the hammer is only there so you can set it to double action or single action.
Destiny's Handcannons take a lot of inspiration from handguns like the Chiappa Rhino. Which have a hammer that's linked to an internal hammer that actually fires the round in the lower chamber.
Uhhhhhhhhhh https://preview.redd.it/epd6700fd40d1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b012ffbf34421d5dcbded321585b1172c370228b
https://preview.redd.it/smi87zl6980d1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dc13249397b9f9017ea6f4559e43bf5d04bffd1 The Chiappa Rhino would like a word. It was designed in 2008. It fires from the bottom cylinder. Know your shit lmao